I figured I’d find you in this comment section

@@saber5785 I mean, he mentioned me in the video.

This crossover is ambitious. I was about to comment on that.

OMG, that part with the silly kazoo version of the MK theme and those screenshots...was comedy gold lol

Ironically he’s a robot

*speed and weight

@@super8bitable SPEED. AND. WEIGHT.

SPEED!!!! AAAAANDDD. WEEEIGGHHHHTTTTTT!!!!!!!

When did he say that?

@@kevinp.h157 his rage art, I think

"THE FATALITY!"

i could care less about how bad this guy says mk11's animations are, its still very fun to play and still ahead of other games in terms of combat competitiveness and story. I think mostly everyone in here just say they use to be mk fans but i think they really had always thought other games were better and are kind of upset that mk gets a lot of praise. But out of all the comments I seen, I think yours is the one nrs should pay attention to. One thing we can all agree on is mk11 should have less moves like that in the story mode because it takes you out of immersion. They should definitely have an option to turn off gore in the story at least, oh and dont get me started on the wholesome dialogue followed by fight.....

@@jaysaute8328 Umm... MK's animations are objectively bad. It's not just "how bad he says it is". It's objectively fucking bad. Grow a pair of eyeballs.

@@lilywong9672 u see one guy make a video and suddenly you're an animator too right? I shit u not if most of us didnt see videos like this im pretty sure we would still enjoy mk11s animations. Mkx was very harsh to look at, but these are as clean and sleek as ever. Im not gonna attack u or insult u because u have your own opinion but mk has won fighting game of the year so many times in a row because its fun and has great mechanics, not just because of animations and it looks pretty.

@@lilywong9672 this guy's video's comment section are filled with street fighter, tekken, and all other different kinds of fans, but not mk bro. They have been wanting to hate on it sooner but they had to wait for someone elses opinion to give it the green light.

Boosted Bonobos Inc. i find it funny how realistic they want the game to look and feel with fatalities. when you have employees look up "materials" just to do "proper" fatalities and they cant even sell basic attacks.

@@volcanicviper5984 I hope mortal kombat actually fixes it's animations in the future because as of now it's just,bizarre

Boosted Bonobos Inc. i doubt it. with this video its seems its been 4 games and they still barely animate a character properly

@@volcanicviper5984 F in chat

In fact, like he said in other videos, it's not about realism, rather selling the illusion of truth. Like pro wrestling and martial arts movies. Of course you don't do jab strings, or wall combos, or key poses in real fights, but in fighting games you must at least show some believable and impactful hits, regardless they look realistic or not

As depressing as when you realize MK will still sell regardless bcos it appeals to the masses with their cinematics and "mature theme" (read: blood and gore) compared to other fighting games with more polished animation and gameplay....

Well, think about it. He had Mortal Kombat as something he loved since his formative years and as the years wore on and his love of animation grew, all he saw in MK is stagnation and disappointment. Of course that's a downer. His line about seeing a friend from school years later STILL stuck at that stage is telling. I've seen that once or twice and it is one of those things that gets to you.

@@LeinRa-Reaction the MK games also sell due to the fact that they are actually very fun.

RicochetForce Anyone who was a fan of Family Guy should be able to relate.

HERESY Until they start picking your pockets and jump scaring you for no reason.

You wanna dance? Ki change instead lol

master raven b3+4 dance lei wulong's haha step xiaoyu spinning dance

@@urge-avatar6022 I love a good haha step

Hwoarang doesn't even need a dedicated button to switch his stance and his stance does something different.

I've always thought that having characters be "open-stance" at all times in 2D games isn't necessary with 3D models; I didn't know Fighting EX Layer proved that to be true!

rebooting is sO important to DC Warner Brothers and now NRS. DC has Crisis on Infinite Earths, Flashpoint, New 52, Rebirth, multiple Batmans, Multiple Supermans... and MK has rebooted 3 times and has a new movie reboot.

Liu Kang, this pure-hearted monk who only wants what's good for the world, reset the timeline, which is why Shang-Tsung, Kano, and a half-Tarkatan Mileena still exist, right?

@@JacOfAllTrades. If you erase every bad person, that won't guarantee peace in the future, what's next? Take away their capacity for evil? Then everyone is a slave, unable to make free choices. This may sound like a utopia, but does Liu Kang have the right to do that to people? I don't think anyone has the right to do that, not even the christian God many people believe in. If I recall correctly he won't take away your ability to choose or remove all evil from the world, because he wants people to make choices, and to choose for themselves to believe in him

@@JacOfAllTrades. I think the main conflict in this new era is that as much as you try evil still finds a way in

ah.. so much DC stench in it .. rebooting the timeline alot of time lmao

U get what u sign up for.

you mean taking advantage of young college grads to make then hope that they will get a full team job.

@@keon200 people sign up for a monthly paycheck to buy what they need in life. Not to be abused by rich greedy people who don't even care about basic human necessities such as sleeping and mental health. Go sign up yourself at a studio that literally treats you like utter trash and tell us about your experience, will ya ? I personally know someone who works at GameStop for a living. It's like going to Hell every morning, especially with the virus running rampant. But they never care. As long as you do your job, no matter how dangerous it can get, they will send you some cheap-ass paycheck that won't even help you pay your rent.

we need people that give a damn about the well beings of others. the Fatalities kinda of weigh down on you to the point where what else can we fantasize to create the same gruesome effect. We need to be pushing towards character emphasis like Lui Kang reflecting the shaolin monk side and not committing acts of violence. not saying I'm a Human Activist, but there's a sense of depth you open up when you take away the capitalization of fatalities and focus on what makes them unique.

@E Nah. Calling him a dumbass is miles better than the dislike button.

That's literally the joke he opens with.

TERMINATOR IS LITTERALLY A ROBOT HE IS ALLOWED TO HAVE AN ANIMATION LIKE THAT HE'S NOT BOUND BY HUMAN ANATOMY STOP USING THIS MOVE AS AN EXAMPLE OF BAD ANIMATION IT DOESN'T COUNT.

OMAR ASHRAF Hutzil is an even more robotic robot who is well-animated.

@@optimustic1 i mean just look at most characters crouching kicks they look awkward as fuck

@@optimustic1 1:Humans aren't well animated either. 2: Being a robot isn't a excuse. There are lots of robots in fighting games.

You know, outside of the fact that he's full of shit

@@557deadpool How?

@@Lazypackmule his incessant bitching about fatalities with shitty reasoning. Also stop liking your own comments

@@557deadpool Thank you for your input 557deadpool

@@557deadpool You're literally subscribed to him. You subscribed to someone just so you can shit on their videos quicker. Get a life lmao

We have better outro now

Totally Right MK9 Scorpion: Cut on hip, cut on neck, cut head in half, not gory, simple, Right to the point, or Spear to neck, portal, come back as a skeleton, no excessive blood, and respecting Scorpion's character; searching vengeance against Sub-Zero, he doesn't kill for fun, and for that reason, he doesn't need to make a Gore Show with His Fatality

THANK YOU. I loved when the characters in mk9 did their outro poses and animations! Ever since they started focusing on the intense gore in the outros in mkx, it’s just disgusting and unappealing to me.

Now that you mention it, yeah it’s true. I noticed that starting with MKX after the fatality is done and the “________ wins” screen shows up, the camera would focus on the corpse of the victim just to show off all the gore and violence.

Yeah I feel like the lore, characters and their storylines hasn't really mattered since deception

But mkx was actually good lol

Yeah after MKX i feel that NRS has been focusing more on the graphics, gore and cinematics,that on the rest of game specially on the gameplay in my opinion i feel that after MKX the gameplay in NRS games has been devolving

@Rene Martinez The real world, where it sold millions, got better ratings than other fighting games released during that gen, and won 4 Fighting Game of the Year Awards, one of which was from the Academy of Interactive Arts & Sciences. You know, the world outside of obsessive weaboo's who have no idea what they're talking about like this video clearly illustrates.

@@bud389 dude. This is just sad at this point. Just stop. I can see you in EVERY reply section. The fact that i even have to point this out makes it worse

*sees that there is a full 10-minute long section after all the major points have been covered* *OH GOD NO*

You mean, OH YES

Me: *OH YEESS*

OH YOU I LIKE YOU but seriously you got me into plus r thank you for that love the game

love you, no homo

I remember feeling sad at reading that. Hey, I love Mortal Kombat. But if someone is suffering to deliver me video games, maybe we should stop for a bit and examine ourselves. Yes, I know crunch time is another issue and I have the same feelings about that as well. Video games are entertainment. No one NEEDS to have video games. So maybe we should start asking for our devs to be treated better. No crunch time, no more games causing PTSD just to deliver entertainment. Yeah, games might cost more, we might get a few less games released a year as health is stressed over profits, but I'm willing to make that sacrifice. Because I don't just love video games, I love the developers behind them. When I watch GDC talks about game development, I can see the passion and heart they put into their art. And that passion shouldn't come at the cost of one's health. I'm not sure if the solution is to turn down the violence or maybe, since MK is all about goofy fun, just make the series an anime or something. But I find the Injustice series just as much fun as MK. The core mechanics are the same and I'm pretty sure no one's getting PTSD there (outside of Scarecrow's victims, at least).

I can empathize with those guys. I've been on liveleak and seen some of the worst things people have done to each other and animals and have seen old curiosity photos people took of cadavers nearly a hundred years ago and some of that stuff sticks even if you think you're big enough to take it. I can't imagine the feelings of the people who actually had to experience those events, but I can easily see how immersing yourself in them will change you.

Yeah, I think one of the unnamed devs said that they didn't look at human deaths and viscera but they did have to look at reference material of dogs dragging half their body after their other half got torn from them, cattle being hit by trains, etc...

As bad as this is, it comes with the territory. Games where the fucked ultra violence is a main selling and the horror game genre get their bread and butter from giving you something fucked up to play with, if they’re not giving you that, then they’re not doing their job well.

@@NoMoreSuperHero Many, many, many, many studios and artists manage to make amazing effects without traumatizing their staff. Like the reason you've never heard about anyone else doing this is because it's needless and dumb. PTSD is no fucking joke, and it ABSOLUTELY is not worth making slightly more accurate video game deaths.

Just like with jumpscares in a horror film, too much of it without proper build up and space in between causes them to lose their impact and feel cheap instead.

It's ironic how the new versions of Brutalities they added in MKX serve as better Fatalities than the actual Fatalities themselves. And then they fucked it up by locking the Brutalities behind a bullshit unlock system instead of giving us an "Unlock All" DLC key like X.

Vulcan422 Well; at least it’s actual unlocks as opposed to DLC or Microtransactions.

@@austinreed7343 It would have been better if there was just an "Unlock All" DLC key so everyone could at least have a chance to have everything all at once.

Maybe by the next game, they give fatalities as a reward for combing you opponent into overkill which will trigger the fatalities. And instead of doing different button commands, you can choose which fatalities to show. Idk, I'm being hopeful at this point. The game and the series has sooooo much potential but its being squandered in the past 3 games now.

To be honest, it feels like he's grasping at straws. He says there's nothing wrong with violence in fighting games, yet he singles out Mortal Kombat for it because....that's what it's famous for? That's like saying there's nothing wrong with edgy humor, but you single out South Park because edgy humor is what it's famous for

@@misterdewott8766 That was definitely an overreaction from him.

Anthony Pereyra Did you even watch that whole section? He says it’s how the game makes sure you see every detail and makes you do fatalities all the time in order to progress through the game, as well as how close it gets to realism and being straight up sadistic and tasteless and having no purpose. Not to mention how a Netherrealm employee (and possibly even several others) got nightmares and PTSD from *reference material* (this includes ANIMALS BEING SLAUGHTERED AND PEOPLE BEING EXECUTED). So no, he is not grasping at straws, he’s making a point that everyone else is afraid to since the fanbase loves to rip on people criticizing their precious game.

@@super8bitable How is it tasteless to add an edge of realism to your violence? These aren't real people being brutalized so don't get your panties in a bunch. While it is bad that the Netherrealm employees have have PTSD from seeing the real gore, it honestly comes with the line of work. You signed up to work on the most violent game franchise off all time, and you have to see actual gore? That's a shocker. The reason why nobody is making a point for all of this is because this isn't a problem. I have not seen a single person actually complain the violence is "too real" Not even bigger guys like MaximilianDood or 4thSnake! So don't pretend like Sugarpunch is some kind of holy crusader that's here toexpose MK for being a tasteless, realistic murder simulation.

@@misterdewott8766 "How is it tasteless to add an edge of realism to your violence? These aren't real people being brutalized so don't get your panties in a bunch." True, they aren't real people, but what's the purpose of the characters being so violent in the first place, especially characters like Liu Kang? The violence is just unnecessarily gory and serves no purpose. It's "tasteless" in that it's basically saying "yes the opponent is suffering and in pain that's GOOD". There's no good reason for it to be like that. "Oh this guy's dead, might as well chop his femur into bits and rip his tongue out and strangle him while blowing up his vital organs because this is Mortal Kombat and we don't care about logic." The best fatalities are the ones that just kill them and that's it. That's why the older ones were so good, they were only as violent as they needed to be. And like I said before, THE WAY THE GAME IS SET UP MAKES IT SO YOU HAVE TO SEE THEM TO PROGRESS THROUGH THE KRYPT. It just shoves these shitty fatalities down your throat and is just bad game design overall. Gore is the reason everything else is rushed and bad. They focus too much on it because that's the only reason people buy these games, which is a big problem considering that shouldn't be the only selling point. Also, if you want to get technical, you CAN brutalize a real person, since Dimitri Vegas is a skin for Sub-Zero. "While it is bad that the Netherrealm employees have have PTSD from seeing the real gore, it honestly comes with the line of work. You signed up to work on the most violent game franchise off all time, and you have to see actual gore? That's a shocker." Normal game developers don't look at videos of real people getting killed, they just study human anatomy and base their gore off of that. No one should be forced to see actual people being killed just so it can be used as a basis for "entertainment". They didn't have a choice to see it, they were surrounded by this shit everyday whether they wanted to see it or not, not to mention the crunch time involved. That is fucked up. "The reason why nobody is making a point for all of this is because this isn't a problem." Giving employees PTSD isn't a problem? Alright, sure. "I have not seen a single person actually complain the violence is "too real" Not even bigger guys like MaximilianDood or 4thSnake!" Maybe they don't complain about it because they choose to ignore it on purpose? Like what MK fanboys do? I'll give credit to Max since he's a genuinely good person, plus he likely hasn't seen it since MK isn't a big focus of his channel? His main thing involves Street Fighter and fighting games like that. The rest of the fanbase though? They're a bunch of 12 year olds and manchildren who constantly complain about the game when they don't like it, yet defend it when it's being criticized outside of the fandom for stuff that's not content related. Those people ONLY care about the gore and as seen with MK vs DC, thy dislike it if it doesn't have their precious dismemberment. MK and Injustice are the only fighting games they've ever played. I assume that's the same for you. "So don't pretend like Sugarpunch is some kind of holy crusader that's here to expose MK for being a tasteless, realistic murder simulation." Did I say they were? No. Unlike the MK fanbase however, they've got common sense and actually play other fighting games. It's sad that people will defend a game where you violently kill for absolutely no reason whatsoever, yet they'll flip their shit over a character showing a bit of leg. Thanks for coming to my TED talk.

Same, I'm glad this ride is over.

Its sad that its literally the only fighting that i have to actually worry about animation They have cool characters, the game is unique because of the blood and gore but man I just upgradred my sfv to Champions edition, bought Tekken, soulcalibur and GG rev2 and holy shit Mk11 its still fun and i wanna see Joker and Spawn do well, but why did i wait so long to play other fighting games, im mad at myself

But the bad animation is pretty funny...

KamektheMagikoopa1 oh no doubt. But I like people talking about the stuff they like more.

Davster hey, all of us start somewhere. On a side note, if you play on PS4 I thoroughly enjoy playing fighting games with others.

Yeah, at this point MK just feels like a game to help unleash teen angst. I still have fun with it, but I still feel like an edgy kid when I say I play it lol

Ironically, there is nothing mature about most of the cast at NetherRealm Studios. The only thing that's "mature" is the violence, it seems, but the rest feels like it's made fore kids. I used to LOVE this game, but the older I've gotten, the more shallow it feels. Sad, because it really could be so much more. Wasted potential.

It's an insecure middle school kid's idea of maturity. Someone I knew in grade school and middle school was kind of kid whose mindset was "I'm mature because I watch violent movies, play violent video games, and only listen to music that has swear words in it. Anything else is dumb kiddie shit for kids and manchildren".

Just like Family Guy and it’s ripoffs.

Is really depressing and more considering that NRS and WB have the money to make MK better but greed simply won't allow it

What is the point? There are so many things that come to my mind

@@dashsoulsthehornyone9125 That NRS doesn't take legitimate steps to better their animations and settles instead for mediocrity, so the points here really don't need regurgitated the 4th time around.

@@iisanulquiorrahara8 oh yeah, as sugarpunch said, "1 step forward and 2 steps back"

@@dashsoulsthehornyone9125 Right on the money.

It's most notable in T7 imo, with the graphics being as detailed as they are.

I believe it's how it was in the first Tekken. The only problem in Tekken's animation is legacy animations that they refused to let go (Especially those generic ones all characters have)

I first noticed it with Jin back in T3 and I always thought it was a buggy skin deformation. But like he explained, it intentional breaking to help emphasize the impact of the attack. I don't think it should be considered a negative.

@@magicno2 They leave those legacy animations in because it shows us that those characters and moves ARE legacy lol. It's definitely a deliberate decision by the devs, as the newer characters all have new, unique animations for very similar move functions.

Been playing since Tekken 1 and there were plenty of things like that! XD

She not purposely miss tho, Necro (her reaper wing) really want it to hit but Dizzy intervene, so it miss. Also, both of her wings (Necro and Undine) have a mind of their own, they are not controlled by Dizzy. Anyway, it is still "non-lethal" Instant Kill

@@IceProgressiveMetal non lethal insta KILL okay bud

@@p-y8210 That's why I use capitals, it is a specific term for the game (a move that make you win instantly if it lands), not a generic meaning.

@@IceProgressiveMetal it makes you win a round yes

@@IceProgressiveMetal To be fair, Guilty Gear's (Xrd at least) Instant Kills are not really kills, since like in most fighting games, character's just get KO'd when they lose. I think MK and SamSho are the only fighting games where characters actually die (or are implied to die) when they lose.

Nice sweet JP pic

Also, MK used to be praised for its deep and complex lore. Now, in addition to zig-zagging on whether the MKX comic series is canon or not (such as showing Goro's remains with four arms in the main story, but later including a scene in Aftermath where Kotal alludes to the time he ripped off Goro's arms), there's been so many plot twists that contradict, ignore, or rewrite the story that even the writers are unsure of what's going on. For instance, Ed Boon has stated in interviews that the mysterious woman in Jade's arcade ending in 'Mortal Kombat (2011)' was Kronika, while Shawn Kittlesen states in a tweet (which was later made private due to Shawn setting his account as 'protected') that the woman was Jade's mother (though he refuses to explain why he thinks so, encouraging fans to come up with their own conclusions, even if they contradict what he had in mind).

Who plays a mortal Kombat game and gets turned off by it's biggest selling points: the violence When did y'all become a bunch of Karens 'Oh it's far too violent, won't someone think of the children' lol, come on guys

@@chideraalexanderdex547 Oh i love the violence and gore, i draw gore all the time. The point is not that it shouldnt be violent, but that it's "selling point" is not as well integrated and as impactful as it could be. It doesn't really add to the characters, it's not a particularly special interaction, nor it's super creative or new and the gore is kinda muted when every single special move is Fatality-worthy

@@DeepCDiva I would disagree there, each x Ray attack is unique depending on the character, some of the throws and special moves are extensions of the character eg raidens lightening attacks, Lui kangs hat attacks and their fatalities too The story mode is good too if they had better writers because the writing has been horrible for a while

Sometimes I wonder if DanganRonpa will meet the same fate.

@@austinreed7343 Danganronpa has actual characters with actual traits expressed in game and has an appeal beyond blood and body count.

@@HellRider_ Exactly.

I hope that guys doing okay,

@FIGHTFANNERD9 Mildly, but yes, and there’s no point to the woke either.

Every time you feel like that look at your profile pic and remember, the meaning of life is to scream at things Edit: and you change tbe Ghiaccio pic goddammit

Nothing is Promise.

So why does that matter then

Nothing really matters Anyone can see Nothing really matters To me

We went full Nihilistic at the end

As if violence is bad, it's not

@@ratedr7845 That's not what he was saying. The point is that it really goes against what the character stands for. Imagine if in MvC: Infinite, Spider-Man had a finisher where he pulls out a gun and shoots his opponant in the head and says "You deserve it" and then they die. It would be the most not-Spider-Man thing that it would break immersion.

@@AhmedAli-tq5nj I see what you mean, but mortal kombat rebooted itself at the 9th entry, that could be retconned, Kung Lao was originally a pacifist, but now he's an arrogant monk fed up being compared to Liu Kang

@@ratedr7845 MK9 still used the first game as canon. Everything after that was removed. So it's a reboot in the same way as a Spider-Man Movie. You have the same origin and everything after that is subject to change. Complicating manners is that 9 still uses Armageddon as a jumping off point so all the more reason that MK1 is still canon so it's odd for Liu Kang to suddenly not be a pacifist.

@@AhmedAli-tq5nj eh, maybe as the stakes get higher, pacifism is less of an opinion, I mean for fuck sakes, the guy fight gods and shit

@AT Productions Baiken is just as boring as Sindel is, tho. She's like Samurai Jack with tits. The only reason people like her is because of her boobs. Then again, Zato-1 is like blondie Noob Saibot and Jam is Liu Kang with tits, so...

The important part to notice about Nakoruru's super attack is that the camera never focuses on her blade punching through the opponent's body, or how much internal damage is dealt, or how much pain the enemy is in; the camera is framed on Nakoruru's face, to show you how much she regrets having to have done this.

@@SugarPunch And look where Samurai Shodown is now. Beaten at the 23rd DICE Awards for Best Fighting Game by Mortal Kombat 11. Not only that but it sold like dog shit, looked like dog shit, and had WORSE animations than MK11. How does it feel to be proven wrong you biased weeb?

@@bud389 So is MK11 well-Animated, sire?

I think that was the idea. He said, "Maybe next time."

After this experience, Abi should be talking about something that does excite him as an animator. Think he kind of deserves some bone after MK11.

Imagine if SamSho was still alive.

oraclefork Didn’t they just release a new game though?

@@0rac1eF0rk wait what? Are you trolling or what? A new SamSho was released this year. It's out and people play it.

Me too. Only I started realizing the problems in the plot with 4th snake. But apparently, we are a minority. All gaming sites rank mk 9, X and 11 in the top 5 no games

Except almost everything he points out animation wise is incorrect or from the perspective of someone who's reference base is another game, which is animated poorly or animated in a specific way as to accommodate its specific style which has no place being utilized in a Mortal Kombat game. If you actually watched a single introductory video on the basics of animation you would quickly realize how wrong every single one of his criticisms are. It's why Mortal Kombat has managed to succeed beyond Tekken, King of Fighters, Street Fighter, Samurai Shodown, and BlazBlue, both critically, commercially, and fan-wise. These pointless videos he's made have done nothing to dissuade people from liking Mortal Kombat and highlights his own incompetence in animation.

@@bud389 This sounds... _Fanatical._ Do you have any evidence to support your accusations? *Mr. bud389*

@@bud389 MK is mostly on the top by just being a gore fest and people's confort zone. Why give someone else an opportunity if you can play a "realistic" fighting game that has the old characters?

@bud389 No, Mortal Kombat sells because it has gory, over the top, self indulgent fatalities and cool guest characters. I would say the game's animation looks like shit, but that's an insult to shit.

When Saibot left Midway, only Noob remained.

@@vulcan422 lmao. When your not making stupid comments on gfaqs youre on youtube making stupid comments thats actually funny 😂😂😂😂

@@vulcan422 is THAT WHERE THE NAME CAME FROM?????

@@liaminator4950 yes!

@@liaminator4950 Yes. It's Boon and Tobias spelled backwards.

Orange Zone It’s just like how Family Guy has become in the 2010s.

@Qwerty The gimmick was blowing people up with brutalities and having two ribcages drop from the sky. And babalities. And Mileena outright snorting you and puking your bones again with multiple copies of things like pelvis, skulls, etc. Even when they got to the PS2 era they didn't drop the comedic surrealism in fatalities. There's nothing fun or weird or quirky in MK11. There's a bunch of psychotic cunts trying to one up each other in a "who's gonna be the special effects artist for the next SAW movie?" contest.

@@Stroggoii Johnny Cage uses someone as a puppet and Jax uses someone's arm as a baseball bat, yet that isn't cartoony or goofy at all? Are you fucking stupid?

Anthony Pereyra Those are exceptions, not the rule.

@@austinreed7343 That would apply if we were talking about MKX where those fatalities were violent and gross for no reason. But nowadays, the fatalities have WAY more personality instead of gross gurgles and no slow motion.

Heck, that SF has it's clone characters branch out shows that MK shouldn't be chained to the 2D era presentation. Ryu is less flashy then Ken, for example.

Starting to also remind me of Digi’s “who dat” videos where he spent a long time analyzing characters and their traits. Hell his favorite being another Shoto clone because he had more potential to grow and had shown this in his game.

You can tell an entire "Family Tree" Storyline in Street Fighter just based on the Shoto-style characters and the small differences in their fighting styles. Gouken/Akuma->Ryu/Ken->Sakura/Sean. You can easily see the evolution of the style and the influence each character's personality and training brings to what is fundamentally the same character retold six times, its so elegant. And you can tell Netherrealm WANTED to do something similar with the Kombat Kids, especially Cassie and Jaqui, but things like the absolute necessity for ultraviolence completely overriding any other established character traits means that they, or any other MK character, will never be fundamentally different than any other in terms of personality. They will always be "_______, but also a murderous psychopath".

@@MrOrdinaryundone Could not say it any better myself. Hell a brother of mine didn't mind the Kombat Kids and thought they had potential until they got shoved back.

wtf? You don't remember Scoprion or Sub-Zeros story? Who else in fighting games has a more well known story than those two? I call bullshit.

Not entirely. While it is true it was Quan Chi who killed the Shirai Ryu, he only did it at the behest of the Lin Kuei. As Sub-Zero said in MKX, neither of them is blameless.

Actually, Quan Chi destroyed Shirai Ryu as payment for Lin Kuei's(Sub-Zero's) service. Bi-Han is only guilty of killing Scorpion, that's all. In MK2, Hanzo just heard rumors about the return of Sub-Zero so he decided to investigate if he came back just like himself.

People these days haven't even watched any of the old MK stuff like the old TV series or even the movie, much less read the lore in the old games. I used to love this franchise, and I loved MK9 despite its flaws because the story mode was engrossing and I actually liked the gameplay. Every MK game since has done nothing but lose more of the magic I saw in it.

Dude.. Watch mk mythologies cutscenes..

Quan Chi killed the shiray ryu as payment for Sub-Zero's mission

it doesnt. even in the story mode they break their own stupid rules. sonya realize she can kill kano by hurting or killing young kano. but during the entire story mode they make you fight against your younger self and somehow none of them end up hurt. they establish that young johnny cage gets hurt the scar appear in the old johnny. but when this two hit each other... there is no damage or pain lol

​@@FZJanimatedbecause canonically they don't do allat to kill each other.

Ok as shit as Mk1s monetization has become this video is about fight animations and needlessly brutal fatality where it stops being fun and starts being gross, something Mk1 actually fixed

@@meandtheboys8486 even though your comment is true about that, they were examples of bad animation on mortal Kombat 1 that even Sugar punch himself made a comment about Li Mei Baji Quan, for naming an example

Yeah once you dig deeper you realize this game has issues whether you agree with the people complaining about the more conservative outfits, you cant deny that it was one is a myriad of problems that painted a greater picture. Personally I said the lack of skimp was just the tip of the iceberg but no one.believed me

That was one of the kind of problems I did have with MK. While I wasn’t as interested before I do recognize that MK back in its glory days use to be the game to push boundaries. They were the ones that had the ESRB ratings established and even went to court over it. And it was just a game about Kung fu stereotypes, bikini clad girls, and ninjas with different colors being brutal. It didn’t care about social norms and it did what it want despite how people wanted to tear it down. But nowadays it’s almost been flanderized. That nothing is important about MK except the blood and gore. Hell the devs even decide to lecture people about what female characters should be dressed up like. And that fucked me up the most out of the entirety of MK’s controversy. That they are now apart of the norm. They think they are now what should and shouldn’t be in games despite how they fought this stigma long ago. And it’s not just that. Characters changed to be almost bland. Designs are starting to suffer. And like in this video, the personality of the game is almost completely snuffed out. Now all that remains is how gruesome they can take their gimmick. It’s like bogging down GG to being nothing but rock and metal references. Or street fighter being nothing but stereotypes on fighting styles. No substance. Just kind of dead.

@@jacobfoxfires9647 THANK YOU! Finally someone gets it. Their entire legacy is pretty much built on controversy, and you're just gonna THROW it all away?! Even though i was never a fan of MK, excessive gore was just never my thing, i respected nether realms for just doing what they wanted despite what critics said and remained true to themselves, now they are nothing but sellouts, looking to pander to people who never intended to buy their game in the first place.

The PTSD thing was highly talked about shortly after the game released, and for some god-forsaken reason people decided to forget all about it after they knew their daddy Spawn was gonna be in the game From the very beginning this was a game I felt nothing but contempt towards, the gameplay, animation, story, characters, the condescending and obnoxious attitude of the hosts of the Kombat Kasts and the EA-esque progresion system, but the news about the employees at NRS being so damaged from the experience was the straw that broke the camel's back for me, NOTHING about this game that isn't the netcode deserves any praise from my point of view

@@ZatotheFiend I think that everybody forgot about all of that because most people don't care about it in the first place. People just wanted to feel good about themselves and dropped everything when the devs did something that made people feel good.

"you don't notice it in real time..." WELL NOW I DO

@@Nofixdahdress Trust me when you play the game long enough you wouldn't notice it because you'd be focusing on environment and your opponent

It was the first thing I noticed when using this move as Jin in Tekken 3, it never left my mind lol

I've always noticed that in those end of match slowmo replays lol I thought everyone was aware of it

Unrelated but god damn do I miss Asura

What about other animations as a whole ?

@Trevor Anthony kzfaq.info/get/bejne/baiJftd7lpO7qnk.html

@Trevor Anthony i know right!?

@Trevor Anthony yeah

Thank a alot

No way!

I agree with you, MK felt in its various titles a chance to utilize literature and cinema to create an interactive experience, each character is unique, comes from a different world, coupled with an interesting atmosphere, design and music. The fatalities do not feel like a necessity, taking them away will not take away from the franchise's interesting setting and cast.

Sadly Mortal Kombat will never be the same. What we loved about it is gone at this point. And I'm an optimist.

I'm the same way

Japanese Fighting game characters are 2 or 3 combined gimmick and thats it.It just stays that arcatype till end of the world or something. MK character are one giant gimmick evolved as time goes on.

One thing that actually kept me away from the franchise for a long time was the violence. Things just changed when i got to play mk5 with my cousin and i the game began with that cinematic about sheng tsung and kuan chi joining forces to defeat liu kang and shao khan to resurect an ancient god of another realm... The lore and aesthetic was so cool i couldn't help not becoming a fan.

They toned sexuality for women, men still go in the battle half naked. Little ironic but yeah you need to please the fem-nazis of this World.

@@domagojkersun9630 Dude please refrain from using the term "fem-Nazis," when we have actual Neo-Nazis to deal with today. No one put a gun the devs head and forced them to do this, they did it on their own. Critiquing that is okay, liking that is okay but no one was strong armed into doing it. My point is if the violence is going to be gratuitous why not have the sexually be just as gratuitous. If your going to tone down one, not toning down the other is going to come off as a bit weird at best or concerning at worst.

@@kap1618 thank you

XD

It does, because it's an awful, awful animation that the people who animated it either didn't care about, or rushed through it. He looks like a beyblade spinner in slow motion, complete with a model that breaks and clips on itself. I don't think there's a single animation as comparably bad in MK9, MKX, or MK11.

I saw it in Smash and was always wondering how on Earth his spine just... rotates like that

@@bud389 The animation is largely unchanged from Tekken 1, and I think they wanted it that way. Street Fighter X Tekken interestingly makes it look possible and bearable, though. No weird twists.

@@bud389 “he looks like a beyblade” that’s a good thing my man beyblade rips

And Kano's headbutt fatality which emphasizes that he fights like a brute

I'm not sure if those are good examples. D'Vora turns the opponent into a food source, and then a new baby is born from the opponents body. Kollector's fatality literally has him picking threw the opponents body parts to see what he wants to kollect. I'm not sure how you missed that.

Kung Lao's ego thing in MK11 is largely anachronistic tbh. He was only ever this cocky and egotistical once before, in Shaolin Monks. It's something he's become, not something he's always been

I second what Petters said. The only thing that matters to Kollector is gold and jewelry, the people who wear them are irrelevant. He's perfectly content with ripping his opponent apart limb from limb to recover ever last brooch, ring, gold filling, cybernetic implant, etc that they have.

@@LuvzToLol21 Wait, I thought the extra arms on his back were part of his collection? Where are jewelry he collects in his design then? Or pouches for storing his collection? ... see how his design has nothing to with his character?

It is over the top. But i do wish we had more fatals like scorpion's spear fatality. The second one not the first one. I agree with u about the gore being just meaningless at this point, but i dont want them to get rid of fatals all together. Just make them cleaner

@@jaysaute8328 tbh imo mk9 had the best fatalities, mkx and mk11 (while I dont mind the gore) using eyeballs/intestine ripping for 50 % fatalities is just lame and uncreatibe

@@clavicusvile1328 i hope they replace the gorey fatals with more clean and percise kills

@@jaysaute8328 I just hope they go creative like scorpions second mk11 and his first mk9 fatality, or both of sektor's mk9 ones, bc everything is creative and follows up perfectly unlike 20 different zoom ins on eyeballs and brains

What? It's always been gore porn, and it's as silly and over the top as ever. Quit being disengenious.

I mean,you could say the same about Japan being totally not okay with MK let alone any kind of Extreme Violence but is all okay with Sex and Hentai in their games. Double standards tbh.

@AT Productions He's right, though. It's absolutely a double standard. One Mortal Kombat didn't use to care about as it showcased plenty of fanservice alongside the violence.

@@jaysanj152 tbh in your lifetime you are more bound to see sexual organs than a head getting blown off or someones guts spilling out lol. I prefer japan censoring extreme gore because i myself always disliked extreme gore in games (im ok with blowing up limbs and head since its not that extreme, but mk is just unecessary imo)

​@@jaysanj152 No. Because boobs are good. This is wonderful. Severed heads are bad. It's terrible and disgusting. Know the difference. Not to mention that even this take about intolerance to violence is false. There is a level of brutality in thousands of visual novels that Mortal Kombat could not even dream of. There are a huge number of anime series, with an exorbitant level of violence. Have you ever watched Erufen Rito? Have you watched Hellsing? MK is banned in Japan for other reasons. Perhaps the whole point is that this is senseless, extremely vulgar and simply tasteless violence. Every time America tries to do something "brutal and bloody", it turns out Mortal Kombat or "Invincible", something so stupid and mediocre. The embodiment of bad taste.

@@thebigzan Its more a thing about which types of things are allowed in Hentai in their games.

Will Turner: *Throws knife on wooden table* THAT'S NOT GOOD ENOUGH!

olah547 I love this reference. Thank you for posting this. ^__^

You're not

@AT Productions I don't remember that being in mk4... Most intriguing

@AT Productions holy shit, never noticed that!

Oh no! YOU LOST NO NUT NOVEMBER

THE DAMAGE DONE THE PAIN SUBSIDES

AND I CAN SEE THE FEAR CLEAR WHEN I LOOK IN YOUR EYE

now I'm motivated

_*Instrumental riff_ I NEVER KNEEL AND I NEVER REST,

Now I finally understand why I had such a good time playing MK in the past. Because I didn't take it seriously. I just laughed at what was happening because of how over the top it was.

MK has become the Family Guy of Fighting Games. Out of one dark age into a new, even worse one, with extreme vulgarity.

Never really thought about that. Really if it wasn’t for the gore and fatalities, it wouldn’t be mature rated now would it?

@@jacobfoxfires9647 Nailed it, Jacob. It wears a child's idea of maturity made of flesh, blood and bones. But as stated in the video, it's just immature shlock that appears to be gross for the sake of gross. At the expense of everything else.

Wasn't there a video by Egoraptor where he commented on how video games these days are all mature rated with the violence (and the boop bop bippity bop), but the game still treats their player like they're kids?

Nah, at least Fast and Furious didn't take itself seriously.

That makes alot of sense now

I’d say it’s Family Guy

Yeah, i think they should get an artstyle, even if violates their origins.

N00B's Stuff Agreed

Definitely. We're fast approaching the point where the increased fidelity of graphical hardware, even in mass market consoles, will no longer be able to hide behind "It's tongue in cheek" or "It's meant to be goofy" excuses. It's similar to the deep discomfort many felt towards Lara Croft's deaths in TR 2013. The camera lingered a little too long, and there was a little too much attention to detail paid to realistically simulating someone's life being snuffed out.

@@RicochetForce To be fair, I think that whole deal with lara croft's death animations were really just a barely disguised fetish.

@@voltekka47 Yeah, that's actually were I first found out about "Snuff" shit. The team made all those animations and didn't have someone from the outside come in and give a second opinion.

if i see another 80s guest character i will pirate every nrs game for the rest of my days

@@hjblacdes61 I can't wait for another billion reaction videos of dudes in their 40s screaming because Terminator said the line!

@@hjblacdes61Thankfullly Omni man, homelander, and peacemaker will feature. Time for some new stuff

Once they're done with super popular icons and all, I'd love to see how they tackle lobo. I'd feel that he'd be really sick in mk

I looked at the sales numbers for mk vs all the other fighting games and all I gotta say is: DAMN

@@mp4c12winning Of course the game sells. It's a huge franchise that highly appeals to kids/teens. I too remember when I was a teenager and thought MK was pretty much the coolest shit you could own/play with your friends. I still own every MK game from 4 to Armaggedon.

Daniel Spencer street fighter is a huge recognizable franchise. And it doesn’t sell. So?

@@mp4c12winning Because they're too hard for your casuals lol

@@mp4c12winning Have you completely glossed over the "appeals to kids" part? Also MK is a lot more popular than SF among people that don't usually play fighting games, ESPECIALLY in the west, because the game is made to appeal to a much larger audience with all cinematic gore and microtransactions. Just look how much they invested in marketing this game - getting 21 to do a song, a TV promo and a lot more. No fg does that, they attract customers with gameplay and gameplay alone. Look at the pro-scene of this game it's terrible. The game launched this year, was the most sold game of the year and still had way less entries at EVO than both SF and Tekken. This game is not made for longevity, but for huge short term profit - SFV was released 8 months after MKX. It outlasted it, Injustice 2 and will probably still outlast MK11 in dev and fan support.

Nobody has ptsd the sissy made it up

Because they are non-canon. They are there simply for the player to use of they choose to. To expect more is a silly.

@@heresy7702 That doesn't mean they can't have them behave in other ways. Like stated in the video, many of the fatalities go against the reality of the established character. So if they can go against that, then they could also make them go more with their character. You could have some sad strangling fatalities, or a desperate neck break like in Man of Steel (even if that scene was a bit silly). Y'know what I mean? If it's non-canon, then they can do more than just joyful violence.

@@00Jj262 But it also means they don't have to be within what the character would do. It don't really feel its that big of an issue to be honest. The way they talk to each other before matches gives me enough character.

@@heresy7702 Yes, that's what I said. Since they don't have to stick to the character, that means that they're also capable of sticking to the character if they want. Even if only for variety. I'm not saying it's necessary, I'm just saying that I'm personally disappointed that they didn't take advantage of the possibility.

Darkoes1 Samurai Shodown and Eternal Champions both handle this better.

An MK game with the animation of Guilty Gear would be a dream come true ngl

Seems like it

Damn right. Literally the hyper violence is it's selling point, characters may be a close second...but definitely the violence

Yep, maybe Doom as well (but at least the mods and speedrunning made the game into a classic that is still played today)

@@ikagura Doom's selling point was its map design and gunplay.

@@harlannguyen4048 I mean violence kinda boosted the game's popularity (because of some parents being upset like when GTA was trendy) but I could agree that the gameplay played a good part (I mean even chex quest, a non-violent game using the same engine, was fun to play despite the simpler level design).

@@ikagura I first played Doom 2 in 2014 and had played FPSs for more than a decade before that. It's movement and alternately frantic and cerebral gunplay was a breath of fresh air. Even if you think it might have died without it's heavy metal violence back in the 90s, it still would have absolutely deserved to live on.

What do you mean by "ended"? This game VASTLY improves everything from the last game while Street fighter and other games still looks like phone games. Dude had nothing to talk about after shitting on 10% of the game's animations in the first 10 minutes. He talked about jaqui's shield thing?? He literally can't find something for him to complain about. This whole video just shows 5 bad things in a game that has a 100 good things. You guys can fuck off and stick your shitty anime waifu cartoon games while MK actually fucking evolves and becomes better with each console generation.

@@optimustic1 Yeah it improved like a COD game. Same game, shiner coat of paint, and burred under microtransactions. If that's what people think is an improvement then I'm fine playing with in your own words "Shitty anime waifu cartoon games". Also since you mention it, check out Street fighter 5's development again. Made a major comeback I say despite other gripes I have with the game.

@@jacobfoxfires9647 Not same game, completely overhauled graphics, completely overhauled meter system/super system/neutral/footsies. Animations are completely overhauled, characters have over 60 skins, 90 gear pieces, 8 cinematic intros and outros. He keeps saying characters don't have a meaning when each character in MK11 has a very clear, disntinct personality that is shown in everyhing they have from intros to outros to aniamtions and even fatalities. I find it hilarious you compare MK to call of duty when your SF5 is litterallly the new coat of paint to SF4 but just not very good paint. Even after 2 or 3 years your complete edition of SF5 doesn't have half the animations, story, lore, and overall content as the less than a year old MK11.

@@optimustic1 When you start your praise on the game with graphics then you really aren't selling me that you aren't any different to a COD fan boy. Hell the most laughable one thing you had said was something he even addresses. What's the personality Scorpion has over Subzero? Is one more aggressive then the other or what does their execution says about them? In MK the only conclusion when they do their fatalities on daughters, fathers, friends, lovers or siblings is that they are psychopathic with either a hint of ice or fire. Also the amount of animations mean nothing if they are either mediocre or crap. Doesn't matter how many cinematic intros there are if it's behind the most time consuming and just bland system of microtransactions that had just excluded the lootboxes because the FTC was starting to get on EA's ass for it. And even despite the shotty lore SFV has going on, it's a lot more then what MK11 has, which by the looks of it is a great big pile of nothing. Hell, go on and tell me if people know the story of Sub zero and Scorpion more so then Ken or Ryu.

@@jacobfoxfires9647 I gotta disagree with the COD comparison. You have played the game right?

Point is u didnt see in animation. U can learn this from cinematic story, outro dialogs etc. But , look at Kage in sf5 or evil ryu. They show hate and rage. Scorpion just equally anger, like sub zero in fight. Just check fatal blow. I can tell wich punch/grab animation angier Kage or Ryu. But not sub or scorp.

I can never understand people who take the fatalities seriously like this. You know that the story mode is the only thing that's canon right? Johnny wouldn't do that to his daughter, but due to the fact that it's a casual match in which people are controlling these characters you have they choice to do so.

@@heresy7702 So you're saying this thing not being canonical somehow instantly makes it not weird and off-putting (considering how immensely gory, detailed and truly malicious it is)? Maybe a sociopath would think that...

@@Lewdology that's mean of you man

@@heresy7702 Sorry you feel this way. I just find it weird anyone would want to see that kind of thing happen or be unable to understand why others would find it off-putting. It's not at all about taking it seriously or whatnot. Actually I would argue, that the more realistic they make the gore, the more serious they want it to be taken. (Nothing inherently wrong with that mind you, it's all fiction at the end of the day. It's just my own distaste for overly graphic gore with no purpose.)

@@tombraider200571 I couldn't agree more. I love MK, I love the characters, and I love the story. But the shit is FAKE. None of it exists in a physical plane. These are digit creations that do what we tell them to. All story and lore literally does not exist at this point because WE are in control. It's fiction. If people get bent by fiction, even the GROSSEST or most horrible shit, then that's their problem that they can't seperate their morals from a fake video game.

MK Capcom: More character personality, tighter gameplay MK ArcSys: Better artstyle, masterful lore/storytellling MK BaMco: Non-intelligence-insulting animation, better casual & hardcore experience You choose... I'm okay by either one really.

@@shg45 no mk as an anime fighter would look horrific in my opinion lol

@@shg45 The masterful lore and storytelling bit suits better Snk that Arcsys to be honest

To be fair, Guilty Gear is kind off a weeb version of Mortal Kombat. The instant kills work a bit like fatalities and some characters resemble MK characters visually and/or thematically, for example: - Jam is Liu Kang with Tits - Baiken is half-blind Kenshi with no telekinesis - Sol is Scorpion with a motorcycle and a lighter - Ky Kysle is Barbie Sub-Zero - Zato-1 is Barbie Noob Saibot - Chipp is like a weeb Smoke - Johnny is....Johnny Cage - May is like Cassie Cage with an anchor - Fillia Rage is like a modest Sindel - Potemkin is like Skullgirls Shao Kahn (at least his Rev look) - I-no is Mileena with a guitar and a normal face - Jack-O is Cetrion with a halloween mask - Raven is emo Kano - Slayer is Raiden if he was a competent gentleman and so on...

See also Sonic the Hedgehog prior to Frontiers

yeah another issue i have is just how long alot of these fatalities are, Fatalities uses to be quick sudden bursts of gore at the end of a match that made people in the arcade go "WOAH!" now they take almost a full minute and sometimes more to complete which makes them not even worth doing because they end up feeling far more repetitive. and yeah they've become way too out of character, one that sticks out to me is Takada's in MKX who's supposed to be a fun lighthearted guy but his fatality has him slowly rip out your intestines from your mouth while the character gurgles and chokes on their blood. not only this but the focus on gore has infected Xrays, every one of them just focuses on how gory they can be at the cost of creativity or even just a useful super.

I thought it was m.bison

@@jamiebull7981 He's Vega in Japan.

@@jamiebull7981 Lol In Japan M.Bison is Vega

@@jamiebull7981 Bison, Balrog and Vegas names are switched around other places. That's why in international tournaments they are called Boxer, Dictator, and Claw I think it is

@@fiendwithoutaface6833 oh shit , I didn't know that

The slow motion super move gimmick should die off. I dislike how so many fighting games focus on them now. I prefered how supers were done back in Street Fighter 3rd Strike, short simple and didn't out of the match time at all. They just take too long and lose their impact the 3rd time you do it.

Aftermath be like “LA LA LA I CAN’T HEAR YOU.”

Mortal Kombat 1 actually gave them taunts...why do I get the feeling someone at NRS saw this video.

Sam sho has a Black Friday sale

How is SamSho? I heard it's a game centered around high damaging normal.

Cake# Yup, basically. Its kinda stuck to it roots by focusing heavily on neutral, but there’s plenty there

Noah Hall Eternal Champions is also worth your time. And what about getting MeltingMan234 to do a team-up episode?

@@cake6851 The game's all about neutral and high damage, but the neutral game isn't exactly standard. Walk speeds are slower than in other fighters and most normals are pretty big and disjointed, not to mention that they're all whiff cancelable except for the heavy attacks, so you can't just move back and forth and wait for your opponent to miss an attack and punish them.

Chris Stegerean 死闘 (Death Fight) - A Mortal Combat. Sasori, Kyo-Ryu, Hibagon, Kemuri, Kuroi Yurei, Irokage, Tsumi-no-Kyojin, and Ame. And Jishin, too.

@@austinreed7343 there's a clever man.

@@austinreed7343 and |

Jaxon Carter 2: electric bogaloo Considering the other names... Denjin and...

@@austinreed7343 Kechappu & Masutādo

Aaaaaaaaand... For the sad part in the end.

Isaiah Torok And Samsho

@@MrTheil I think he hinted that he'd do that in the video, I really hope he does

Even on mobile the KOF Allstars x Tekken 7 game isn't bad either, fun old style brawler/beat'em up.

SFV has amazing animations

Or Street Fighter Third Strike!

If you believe that, then your smelling his farts tbh

That is the only thing I disagree with him in the video

@@TERMINXX101 Is that so? Enlighten me. (Can't believe it took me a month to notice this).

@@DJack276 theyre defined by how they fight and signature moves, *Idiot* . like any other fighter from the 2D era before a story was really involved. People made an entire personality just from captain falcons moveset alone, *idiot* .

@@keon200 then I will ask the same question Sugar Punch did: What is the difference, *in character,* between Scorpion and Sub Zero?