Establishing Perennial Peanut - Lawn Alternative Ground Cover for Florida

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11 ай бұрын

Perennial Peanut makes an excellent lawn alternative for Florida yards. In this video, Craig shows how he establishes this ground cover which thrives in full sun.
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@KatyKat31 28 күн бұрын

I live in 10a (St. Petersburg). I am in love with the idea of turning my sandy/weedy backyard into a perennial peanut field. Right now what I have is a big collection of weeds and grasses. Motley assortment with some sandy patches. I’m new to all of this so I didn’t realize that I had to kill everything existing to start the peanut. I heard you say a flamethrower which sounds super cool but of course I don’t have that. How do I kill off an acre of what I have quickest and cheapest to start the peanut journey?

@jimhartt4129 11 ай бұрын

Great video as always!

@dirtywhiteboy7922 10 ай бұрын

Every time we plant perennial peanut that rabbits eat them down to the roots and eventually they die, we tried it serval times. Mimosa Stringulosa works for us, not as dense though, but once established it really grows well without any rabbits eating it all up.

@NatureDiets 6 ай бұрын

Same with me. I planted mimosa after rabbits ate all my perennial peanut. It works but it's not dense enough to smother other weeds

@MarkTrades__ 12 күн бұрын

how do you deal with weeds growing though it?

@user-pc9nf8lb7s 11 ай бұрын

Admire it when l pickup orders. Failing with mine - thanks for telling us the mulch helps!

@SulcataGrove 11 ай бұрын

Hope you are able to get it established at your place.

@extremebicy Ай бұрын

Forgot to tell you, I have a Sandy soil, and guns as a irrigation system 🙏

@emailhuntersims 11 ай бұрын

Great video, what would you recommend to do for someone who wants to create a ground cover for a weedy field ?

@SulcataGrove 11 ай бұрын

Mow as low as you can. Depending on what weeds are there, you could cardboard and mulch heavy or put down heavy duty weed cloth for a year. For torpedo grass, weed barrier has been the way to go. After 6-12 months I remove the weed barrier and dig out any remaining underground growth. This is the herbicide free way that has worked best in our situation with running grasses.

@performance140 9 ай бұрын

First, thank you for this amazing video. A great help on a topic with not enough info out there. How far apart would you plant these? I am buying some gallon plants of Ecoturf and want to cover a yard. Have a lot of weeds and grass. Going to mow it down and then use your technique. Will I have a better chance if I have cardboard or weed mat under and then put the mulch and plants or do you think mulch alone can beat the weeds and give the perennial peanut a chance? I am south of Miami in the Cutler Bay area.

@SulcataGrove 9 ай бұрын

It’s best to get rid of the grass and weeds first before planting. We had weedcloth down for 6+ months before planting the area in this video. In our front circle, we mulched about 8-12” deep for a year, and then planted. That area was mostly just sand and a few non aggressive weeds. Torpedo and Bermuda grass and sedges have been the most difficult to kill off and need to be gone before planting peanut. Manual removal, tarpimg/weed cloth for 6-12 months, or chemical weed killer are the only ways I have found to kill those off. I tried 4 layers of cardboard and 18” of mulch in one spot, and the torpedo grass made its way up in a year and now is more difficult to dig out. We will be tarping with commercial weed cloth in that area next. The weed cloth/tarp is removed before planting the peanut after all grass and weeds have been killed off. In some areas we have started with just one peanut plant, in others, we plant around 2-3’ apart and mulch well in all other areas.

@jerrymillican5270 10 ай бұрын

Beautiful homestead! I’m researching ground covers at 71, it’s getting impossible for me to keep up with all the beds we have! Would you recommend using it as a filler over the pine bark mulch. We live on the ICW in Palm Coast, last year we had some salt water intrusion with the 2 hurricanes. Is it saltwater tolerant? Thank you for your excellent video!!!!!

@SulcataGrove 10 ай бұрын

Thank you. It is said to be salt tolerant. It helps keep weeds off mulched areas.

@FurFeathersandFlowers 7 ай бұрын

I've been wanting to do this for some time now and found your video very helpful. I'm in Tarpon Springs and would like to get started now. Do you think I should wait til spring or just get some plugs and go for it now?

@SulcataGrove 7 ай бұрын

The green growth of peanut can die back during freezes, but the plant will send out new leaves afterwards. You could plant now or use this time to remove existing grass and weeds and mulch the area well before planting in spring.

@FurFeathersandFlowers 7 ай бұрын

Sounds like a plan. Thanks so much.@@SulcataGrove

@Robert-sz1xb 8 ай бұрын

Do your chickens eat the flowers from the peanut? I brought some samples from a local area and mine seemed to love the flowers. I free range my chickens soon like to find things for them to munch on.

@SulcataGrove 8 ай бұрын

My chickens eat the entire plant as it works its way into their area.

@chrisz.9974 4 ай бұрын

So the perennial peanut will readily root in the mulch? I have my backyard mulched a bit. So I can expect it to spread without much work?

@SulcataGrove 4 ай бұрын

We plant rooted pieces in the soil with mulch on top of the soil. It will need some water to establish if there is no rain for the first couple of weeks. Hand water with a hose right after planting.

@jacobwhite953 4 ай бұрын

Good stuff! I grew up and still live in Melrose on lake Santa Fe (just 15 miles East of Gainesville). I started growing bananas last year in the summer, which eventually led me to find KZfaq channels like yours. Is the climate here where I’m at much different than your climate down South? I’m curious if I could be successful at fruiting bananas every year just like y’all? So far I have collected a Raja Puri, Dwarf Cavendish, Namwah, Grand Naine, Blue Java, and Truly Tiny Cavendish. I hope to acquire a Mysore or Pisang Ceylon and a SH3640 from the FHIA banana breeding program this year.

@SulcataGrove 4 ай бұрын

A lot will depend on your microclimate. It rarely freezes where we live, and the two times it has in the last 13 years, it was only a few degrees below freezing for a couple of hours. I think bananas may be a lot more challenging to fruit where you are, but it’s possible, especially with protection (up next to the south wall of the house) or by potting up corms if it does freeze, and replanting in the spring. We grew raja puri in Archer for 15 years or so without protection or a good microclimate and they only fruited one year (and fruits were subpar). Satsumas and oranges thrived though. I wish we could grow satsumas in Sarasota.

@jacobwhite953 4 ай бұрын

@@SulcataGrove that’s what I worried about; though it seems like it doesn’t get as cold as it used to. We do have a few nights that get into the high twenties, but it’s very seldom. Living right by the lake really does keep the area I live in what seems to be 5-7 degrees warmer than what inner Gainesville is on any given cold night. I will just have to wait and see come this year and the coming years what I can do with bananas. I know a guy in Micanopy who works/grows bananas at the Mosswood Farm Store. He gets loads of bunches of bananas every year. Micanopy is close by so that gives me hope. It’s funny you mention Satsumas. I have one on my property that was here long before I was. It really is the perfect climate for them. They have to be my favorite tasting oranges of all time.

@SulcataGrove 4 ай бұрын

@@jacobwhite953 if they do well, it may be worth adding dwarf Namwa, dwarf Orinoco, praying hands, and sweetheart. These all have handled the cold better than some others. Saba too, but that one gets very tall.

@CTK339 11 ай бұрын

My sunshine mimosa seems to out compete the peanut where I have it mixed

@SulcataGrove 11 ай бұрын

Thank you! We will give it a try.

@extremebicy Ай бұрын

Hi sir, like very much your video, there’s no many videos on perennial peanuts, I’m a hay farmer from Dominican Republic and like to know where I can buy seeds to start a project on perennial peanuts, do you know the best variety for baling it? and what’s the best method of propagation? I would really love any information if you can provide it, best regards Eduardo

@SulcataGrove Ай бұрын

We only grow the low growing ground cover. University of Florida or IFAS websites may have the info you are looking for.

@aloeisthestuff9622 10 ай бұрын

I live on the Treasure Coast, across from you. I had some natural vegetation growing in my yard on purpose and Code enforcement Started Fining me because of some ridiculous yard max length BS. There are many things I hate about Florida.

@SulcataGrove 10 ай бұрын

Florida statues prohibit HOAa and local governments from banning Florida friendly landscaping. They also can’t prohibit solar, rain barrels, and clotheslines. ffl.ifas.ufl.edu/ffl-and-you/community-management/florida-friendly-communities/#:~:text=Florida%20Statutes%20373.185%20State%20statute,prohibiting%20Florida%2DFriendly%20Landscaping™.

@aloeisthestuff9622 10 ай бұрын

@@SulcataGrove Yet my property was accruing fines over it. Then the code enforcers went gestapo on my extra driveway and shed. Cost me almost 5 grand to them Communist scum. I R County! I dont have a few million to fight them.

@deniseinflorida6624 10 ай бұрын

I put out 120 plants over bare dirt (and) here in Central Florida. Grass and weeds are encroaching. Should I mulch it now? Dig out all the weedy grass first? I don't want my peanut to be drowned out!

@SulcataGrove 10 ай бұрын

I would pull all of the weeds that you can (and dig out any torpedo grass) and then mulch. The peanut can grow up through the mulch, so don’t worry if you bury a bit of it.

@deniseinflorida6624 10 ай бұрын

@@SulcataGrove thank you so much. I've called for the nursery that planted it to come help me. I'll spread mulch after it's clean. So excited to have the peanut instead of the ugly that was here

@deniseinflorida6624 10 ай бұрын

Me again. The weeds and grass are wicked. The peanut is doing well with 2x a day watering because of no rain here in S Hillsborough County. Yard has mulch. Too much water? Any advice at this point? Thanks

@SulcataGrove 10 ай бұрын

@@deniseinflorida6624 I dig weeds regularly when establishing in an area with plugs and just keep adding mulch to weeded areas.

@deniseinflorida6624 10 ай бұрын

@@SulcataGrove thank you so much.

@purplelady5844 3 ай бұрын

What kind of mulch are you using ?

@SulcataGrove 3 ай бұрын

Free mulch from local tree companies - usually oak, but occasionally some other woods.

@purplelady5844 3 ай бұрын

@@SulcataGrove thank you I’m going to start my journey this spring with ecoturf

@BryceGarling 10 ай бұрын

Lowes sells pinto peanut and home depot sells rhizoma peanut. Pinto isn't good because it gets diseases and builds nematode habitat. Yours looks like ecoturf rhizoma. It's a forage hay type and ornamental. Dual purpose variety. I planted 9 varieties here in Inverness right into the grass. Moving plugs into the yards of friends who have sandy dead lawns.

@scottburgle4889 4 ай бұрын

Bryce, Where did you find 9 different varieties of perennial peanut? I can only find a couple varieties (ecoturf, brooksville 67, and brooksville 68 which are waxy leaf varieties). I’m located about an hour east of you near Leesburg so if you have any local names that stock it I’d be grateful! Thanks. Scott

@BryceGarling 4 ай бұрын

@@scottburgle4889 I am opposite of you. I am West of leesburg. Only local place I know that sells it is Home Depot. I have theirs but it is not at all ecoturf as they label it. To get any satisfaction at all I had to drive up to Live Oak in north Florida to get mine. Was a long drive but I bought lots of it. The owners name is Jerry and you will want to talk to him if you want to more unusual stuff since they only advertise the basics. The business is called Sunset Specialty Groundcover. From him I got Tito, Cowboy, Brooksville 67, Brooksville 68. and ecoturf. I got Peace, arblick, and another type at random farms.

@scottburgle4889 4 ай бұрын

@@BryceGarling thanks sooooo much. Cowboy is the variety I’ve been hoping to find. Will get in touch with jerry. Thanks again!

@scottburgle4889 4 ай бұрын

@@BryceGarling do you have a favorite? I kinda like Cowboy but am wondering how well it’ll combat weeds?

@BryceGarling 4 ай бұрын

@@scottburgle4889 I do not think perennial peanut is at all good at combating weeds. I had massive weed problems with it. I do not recommend by my experience clearing a place to plant it. All that did for me was make the weeds worse especially dove weed. I suggest planting it in your existing lawn or pasture and let it establish naturally. Especially in the bare spots. It will incorporate itself and after a few years if you mow it high enough it can help fight the weeds but never weed free. All from my personal experience and opinion. I personally really like the cowboy peanut. Took a few years to fill in. Now I have tons of it. I really like Arblick but not sure why. It has a very rounded leaf and vaguely resembles pinto even though it is still rhizoma. My other favorite is the one I got from home depot. It really integrates into lawns easily and really tolerates mowing and sand. I don't know the variety it is and nobody seems to be able to tell me. Ecoturf is nice but too common for me. Reason I say too common is because if diseases begin affecting perennial peanut we really need to make sure we have diversity.