Sulun Arms "Tacsoras" 12g Shotgun (Benelli M4 copy)
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8 ай бұрынThe Turkish Sulun Arms Tacsoras shotgun is a manually operated lever release shotgun made for the Australian market. It's based off the Benelli M4 shotgun but with a lever release to manually cycle it. I had no issues with any shot sizes put through this shotgun, from solids, 00-buck, BBs, 4s, 6s and even 8 shot target loads, it cycled everything!
The issues I have with the shotgun though, is that the front sight was sitting on an angle at the 11 o'clock position and I don't like the way it loads by having to hold in the lever to manually load the tubular magazine. I also replaced the charge handle (like I did with my Benelli M4) with the Victor Precision charging handle for a much better grip and look.
@ozziereviews 8 ай бұрын
Check out our review of the Sulun Arms Tac-12 straight pull shotgun here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ad-KnrmemLuRoqM.html
@yesiamarussianbot3076 8 ай бұрын
So we can own this, but we can't own a pump, yeah makes total sense.
@ckg1776 8 ай бұрын
Who says you can’t own a pump? You can own anything with the correct licence.
@yesiamarussianbot3076 8 ай бұрын
@@ckg1776 We can own a pump rife on an AB license but not a pump shotgun, C & D licenses are almost impossible to get for the vast majority of people.
@yesiamarussianbot3076 8 ай бұрын
@@Gangster88232 you ever heard of pest control mate, also quite funny because you don't like our hobbies, you want to ban them for everyone.
@vermithan8198 8 ай бұрын
@@yesiamarussianbot3076 Don't bother replying to that guy, he's a troll, I've seen him on many other gun related videos making absurd claims to get reactions out of people.
@southGoldcoast 6 ай бұрын
@@Gangster88232 Stfu go suck up to the government 😂
@Pyjamarama11 8 ай бұрын
When loading the tube, Squeeze the lever but only half insert the shell. Then you can release the lever. Use the next shell to push the first shell in and leave the second shell half out, Use the third shell to push in the second and leave the third half out Etc
@azzajohnson2123 Ай бұрын
pretty much like unloading an adler.
@warwickhulme8868 8 ай бұрын
Got mine a couple of weeks ago and very happy. It's my first shotgun so had no bias. I use my middle finger for the lever so don't have to move from the trigger. Cycles flawlessly. Mine didn't come with a manual sadly.
@millennialfalcon7760 6 ай бұрын
Looks like my next purchase is sorted😄
@CrankDr1 8 ай бұрын
Mate your slo mo footage is looking fantastic!
@ozziereviews 8 ай бұрын
Thank you mate, I tried to do the best I could with it
@kerryperkins2989 8 ай бұрын
Awesome review as always and just watched you on the new TV instead of squinting at my phone😂, what a difference it made. It's great that you've got copyright across the firing sequences (I'd never seen that before either). Well done Ozzie!
@148Reaper 8 ай бұрын
Noticed my sights is slightly off too but not really an issue because i have had a red dot on it from the start. Loading it feels a lot more natural if you grip it upside down while loading it, sort of just slide across the lever as you feed the rounds in. 1 thing that does annoy me a little is having to push the action button as well as pulling the lever every time you loaded it. But overall really like the gun.
@5.56NTO 8 ай бұрын
Finally, iv been waiting for this, thanks ozzie
@ozziereviews 8 ай бұрын
You're welcome mate, many people have asked me for this review!
@Outbackarms 8 ай бұрын
Interesting to see ya had the same issues as me ozzie, ill be releasing my review soon
@OldManYelllsAtCloud 8 ай бұрын
I bought one and it totally out classes every other turkish shotgun I have owned or used.
@greenslur5138 8 ай бұрын
Thanks Oz nice review. The only thing I dislike about it is if you have a full tube and want to empty it without shooting every round they can’t be remove from the loading gate, every round must be cycled.
@ckg1776 8 ай бұрын
Can you not push the carrier latch and pull them out? kzfaq.info/get/bejne/m7J1pdCbrdmccZs.htmlsi=WWIXwvFSATqQ26Lb
@homehome-wq6gb 8 ай бұрын
False, 1:26 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/m7J1pdCbrdmccZs.html same procedure. There is a carrier latch on the inside edge which releases. rounds one by one, no need to cycle, This is a much safer method than cycling. Alternatively, just put the rounds down range, ;) speaking from experience as I have a 14.5" Tacsoras, Best purchase I've made in a while.
@greenslur5138 8 ай бұрын
@@homehome-wq6gbthank you sir you are a god send. I even contacted Sulun Arms and asked the question and this was their reply “Unfortunately not mate. The gate needs to be down for the round to release from the mag”. Thanks again 👍🏻
@Tikka300- 8 ай бұрын
Great review mate
@NDMHUNTER1 5 ай бұрын
Complaining about the reloading technique seems very petty I have one and it’s no problem whatsoever Great Shotgun , love it
@tallboy49 8 ай бұрын
Hi Ozzie, a great review, loved the slo mo. Just a thought, being a shotgun most of the game would be out of range after firing 6 shots so there would not be a hell of a rush to reload. Slugs may be a bit different.
@desp6238 8 ай бұрын
I am going to savour watching this review. All i can say is anyone with any Benelli M4 copy, the first part you need to get is a larger bolt release. Options are a tab like the RX one or Bad Tab or a button like the Taran Tactical one. A tab takes a minute to install, the replacement button option involves drilling and then tapping so depends how handy you are. The tab works great
@giantman 8 ай бұрын
Great review, thank you :)
@majoraus7639 8 ай бұрын
Great job mate
@smydie 5 ай бұрын
Hey Ozzie Ordered your Axor Arms Bushpig yet ? Looking forward to a review on it. Thanks
@Alan.livingston 8 ай бұрын
I have a Pointer straight pull and it's got weirdness around the loading gate as well. Not sure why they don't just make them simple push gates.
@Cards36555 8 ай бұрын
Cracking review mate. Can you review the Templeton T2000
@cwp7 8 ай бұрын
Find it helps to press the lever once then just keep the loading gate held open with a finger. Point the muzzle up, hold the stock against your leg and load upwards.
@peterluttgens3364 8 ай бұрын
Ozzie You need to try and find a Stoeger tactical shotgun to review 😊
@adrenalineisbrowncoloured2021 8 ай бұрын
Interesting gun that one, I'll have a look at it but it will need to be all singing and dancing to get me away from my BA-X12 tactical, love that thing.
@tekisonanadventure 8 ай бұрын
Ozzie another great video mate, can you do a review on the templton T2000 push button shotgun please.
@ozziereviews 8 ай бұрын
Yes mate I would love to, I just don’t have the funds right now, hence why I need to have people support me via www.patreon.com/ozziereviews as I’ll need to buy one
@shiftygoose7230 8 ай бұрын
I'd lend you mine😅
@troysadler 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the review. Does the tacsorus accept most benelli m4 parts? Stocks, forends and grips, sights, magtubes ect? Thanks always for great content and advise for Australian shooters
@desp6238 8 ай бұрын
And a Holosun 510C is a perfect sight for this shotgun
@jamiemann5219 8 ай бұрын
I love my tacsoras
@rule3039 8 ай бұрын
I always worry that firearms like this get re-catorgarized or banned. Definitely interested in getting one. The loading sequence is a bit ridiculous but what do you do? Would like to you see you put some 3 inch rounds on occasions. Just warm that shoulder up first.😉
@ozziereviews 8 ай бұрын
I haven’t bought 3” shells in many years so I’d hate to see the price of them nowadays!
@pinochetsghost33 8 ай бұрын
It's already been re-categorised/ banned in NSW because some numpty decided to openly declare he did what a team of gov sponsored engineers couldn't... if you catch my drift.
@paulvictor9368 8 ай бұрын
Ozzie, if you have to buy a shotgun, will you buy this or the Bushmaster?? Also, does it take the 3” magnum rounds?
@stevensparks3126 8 ай бұрын
Good show ! Educational and professional. What would happen if you zip tied the feed lever down ?
@ozziereviews 8 ай бұрын
Still doesn’t work, it has to manually worked
@Pyjamarama11 8 ай бұрын
Interlocked with the trigger and has to be released between rounds
@kentcartner1612 7 ай бұрын
Use your palm on the lever with your shell loading hand. Once the gates opened and shell partly in you can let go of the lever
@Taepa5 5 ай бұрын
Fortunately we get the Dickenson 212 and Sulun 212 full semi auto clones in New Zealand do you know which is the better clone? the Dickenson cost $200 extra
@hendyraynes2412 8 ай бұрын
I know your flat out Ozzie but when are we going to see the Lithgow la102 signature series review. Cheers mate
@jasontaylor9022 8 ай бұрын
I had issues with my shotgun , stoppage after stoppage soft struck and the shotgun was brand new went to gun smith now I can’t shoot Low velocity rounds at all. But I ain’t getting soft struck rounds I am not too impressed unfortunately
@johannpetrick5996 8 ай бұрын
I just recently got one as well. Unfortunately it doesn’t cycle with 7.5 28g Winchester shells. Will have to try it with the Eley to see it that works.
@dosch4320 8 ай бұрын
mine didn't until i ran a few boxes through and re oiled. no issues now.
@johannpetrick5996 8 ай бұрын
@@dosch4320 Thanks, I will try that.
@CJBrunt 8 ай бұрын
So those solids look like about 2" spread at 50metres. That's ~4MoA - a generation ago that was 'acceptable hunting accuracy' in a factory-new bolt action rifle.
@markpeterson5176 8 ай бұрын
Load the magazine tube before putting one in the chamber and it eliminates the risk of accidental discharge whilst loading.
@mickyss7766 5 ай бұрын
But then you get one less bullet
@markpeterson5176 5 ай бұрын
Magazine tube extension… ghost loading is a pain after a while.
@dbanger6557 7 ай бұрын
Which to think is a better option the lever release or the straight pull mate
@peterfoxall7723 8 ай бұрын
C’mon mate is it really necessary to shoot at that speed?.. I mean going that slow will make all the Americans think we are boring Another great review. Cheers for all your work 👍
@xaviernicholson2524 8 ай бұрын
its his gun lol
@richardpilla5524 8 ай бұрын
Now to do the t2000 and the pointer
@melissaw5855 4 ай бұрын
Can you do one on monster er-12. I bought one but no videos and very little info on it
@detectiverigby3949 3 ай бұрын
Goodday fellow Aussies. I m from Malaysia, been researching to get a Benelli Supernova, Or Benelli M4, and for side carry, either a Sig P365, CZ P 01 Omega, or Smith & Wesson M&P, or perhaps a Tanfoglio. May I know why do some prefer pump action and some prefer gas system? I noticed your AB CD licences are between pump and non pump, perhaps in Aussie there might be some stories between the two. Mind enlightening me? Thank you
@bigtrev761 28 күн бұрын
🇦🇺😎👍Great review🏁
@brendancollins1702 7 ай бұрын
Can you add the lever to the previous model tac 12?
@paulbonner8440 8 ай бұрын
Will it load through the bottom with the bolt locked to the rear?
@ozziereviews 8 ай бұрын
No, you have to hit the lever to release the loading gate to load, so as soon as you do that the bolt drops forward
@intothenight1993 8 ай бұрын
Can you load the mag with the bolt back?
@ozziereviews 8 ай бұрын
No, you have to hit the lever to release the loading gate to load, so as soon as you do that the bolt drops forward
@intothenight1993 8 ай бұрын
@@ozziereviews yeah ok that would be a pain. Good review mate. 👍
@ozziereviews 8 ай бұрын
@@intothenight1993thank you mate I appreciate it
@nickslotus9490 8 ай бұрын
Can you just load the tube with 5, and not the +1, does this solve the risk of an accidental fire
@dirtyfox5060 8 ай бұрын
You could, but you would have to reload earlier, giving whatever you are hunting more time to get away.
@stu_backcountry1770 3 ай бұрын
Hey mate, what camera do you use for your slow motion takes?
@dinimit4 Ай бұрын
What do you think the odds of this getting hit by an "appearance ban" are? I'm super interested in this and the AXOR ARMS BUSHPIG XT but I'm worried about getting hit with a ban because they both look very "tactical". In QLD btw.
@CaspianSea-wt5kw 8 ай бұрын
I think i will just go for the pb-12 shotgun
@-pji-649 8 ай бұрын
When are we going to see a review on the Templeton T2000 witch is far superior than the rest.
@ozziereviews 8 ай бұрын
When I can afford one, hence why I have donations available via www.patreon.com/ozziereviews so if people want the review so badly, I’ll go buy it 👍
@sirknight6702 8 ай бұрын
I felt the T2000, didn't like felt too light. Uncomfortable ergonomics. I much preferred the PB12.
@downunderkev1744 8 ай бұрын
Too much going on in the trigger area for me. But surprised with the cycle ability on lower loads
@ozziereviews 8 ай бұрын
I was pleasantly surprised as I thought for sure this won’t cycle!
@downunderkev1744 8 ай бұрын
@@ozziereviews I would really enjoy your view on what is the most comfortable bolt reset action , Sulun trigger area, Templeton rear thumb, bushmiester side lever, and other fore grip push button versions vs Adler lever action vs straight pull
@8marcrara11 8 ай бұрын
Goodonya 👍👍🇦🇺
@jamilazeem878 8 ай бұрын
I’d like to see you compare a Templeton t2000 against this I find the push button a lot faster
@mickyss7766 5 ай бұрын
I've got both guns, they're both good. T2000 is lighter and faster but the 14inch sulan is perfect for the passenger seat
@CJBrunt 8 ай бұрын
And no JohnWick Quadloads if you have to have your other mitt on the funny-lever not supporting the forestock.
@NotEthanNorbury 8 ай бұрын
Hey Ozzie Review, just got my Firearm License in Victoria any suggestion for a First Time Rifle for Deer/Large Game Hunting
@smlefest4366 8 ай бұрын
Grab a second hand Tikka T3 Lite or something along those lines in 308W
@NotEthanNorbury 8 ай бұрын
@@smlefest4366 Cheer mate, My best friend dad who introduced me into hunting actually highly suggested the same rifle, just thought I would ask around and see what everyone suggests
@wideningcarrot6 8 ай бұрын
@@NotEthanNorburythe first replier made an excelllent suggestion. Can not go wrong with a Tikka. Beautiful rifle that will last longer than you will if you look after it. Other than tikka which I found fully support as a 1st choice, If you want to support Aussie manufacturing (which we should now more than ever), Lithgows bolt action offerings are also excellent. Not as luxurious as a Tikka t3 but they are still excellent rifles.
@craigparker4108 8 ай бұрын
Warwick Firearms. Victorian-based manufactured.
@NotEthanNorbury 8 ай бұрын
@@wideningcarrot6 Thank you for the suggestion, seem like Tikka may be the way to go. I definitely look into Lithgows, As a country boy love supporting the local especially local business. Any suggestion for optic for rifles?
@sirknight6702 8 ай бұрын
When i was looking at which shotgun i wanted, I looked at this one and my local store recommended against mostly because of where the lever is located. Its to close to the trigger when the blood is up and under pressure or if you're shooting from the car its too easy to be knocked.
@DrBreezeAir 8 ай бұрын
My M4 didn't have a choke set or a choke key. Take notes, Benelli. Dammit.
@ozziereviews 8 ай бұрын
My benelli m4 came with chokes
@theboyzyes 8 ай бұрын
Great review....but i still find the PB12 way quicker and easier, and the MH 12 is above this as well, so easy but a bit heavier...but I love em...
@ozziereviews 8 ай бұрын
Yea it was the quickest of the non semi auto shotguns I’ve reviewed
@cmb1904 8 ай бұрын
@@ozziereviewsOut of this and the Bushmeister which has the quickest follow up shots. Thanks
@tompinkiewicz5811 8 ай бұрын
One warning about Sulun Arms, they have terrible customer support (well it's non-existent). I have a small issue with my TAC-12 and they are non responsive. TAC-12 is okay though.
@brendancollins1702 7 ай бұрын
Do you have cycling issues? Mine will only cycle the first few empty shells then they jam, tried lotta of different ammo
@dylansmith2324 8 ай бұрын
Why the watermark ?
@reddogsaws 8 ай бұрын
It stops news channels here in Australia from posting it he's had a fight with them before
@dylansmith2324 8 ай бұрын
Tell me more I must have missed all of this fuss
@reddogsaws 8 ай бұрын
@dylansmith2324 I think Channel 9 or 7 used his footage for an ant gun newpice, so I think he took them to court over it he's done some videos on it
@Marshal-Landerson 8 ай бұрын
Hi Oz can you make that video I requested about knife laws in Australia?
@timwoodward8113 8 ай бұрын
No its not the gay knife channel
@jakesoros2376 3 ай бұрын
@@timwoodward8113 😂👍
@benny-ij2jz 5 ай бұрын
easy fix, when your reloading in a hurry dont add the extra shell if you need 6 shells as apposed to 5 lol then you need to hit the range to work on your accuracy. if you need 12 shells to dispose a target you need help big time lol
@dylannorton3645 8 ай бұрын
if you pull the trigger while trying to load the shotty you should probably had your firearms license back in and find a new sport ive shot these quite a bit and not once did i ever come close to do doing that... i think youre a bit dramatic on that
@Litt93 8 ай бұрын
Dramatic? Mate there’s some cowboy shooters out there that would do it. He’s catering for everyone in the review which is why it’s worth a mention.
@jasoar1563 8 ай бұрын
T2000 next pleaae
@jaredneaves7007 8 ай бұрын
Fantastic review. I wish you wouldn't shoot as fast as possible on camera however, due to our lovely sensationalist media friends.
@jakesoros2376 8 ай бұрын
Screw em' they don't like us anyway. We might as well have our fun
@regsparkes6507 8 ай бұрын
I am not a fan of the loading style either. That's simply looking for trouble. Personally, I don't like the style of butt stock either,..I prefer the more traditional styling. Making a shotgun look the way this one does, is just inviting 'the ill informed' to be 'fearful' of the way this shotgun looks. If you think I'm out in left field with that comment, then you don't know who's out there as an ;'anti'. I have a friend who says " I hate guns" , I asked her "why" she replied " they just LOOK like they're meant to kill." With these designs we are just making another whip for our own backs. ( Well, this, as I mentioned, is my personal view, your's will no doubt, differ. )
@jakesoros2376 8 ай бұрын
Way I see it, these chuckleheads don't like guns period. The aesthetics is just a public declaration of their deep seated paranoia.
@regsparkes6507 8 ай бұрын
@@jakesoros2376 Precisely.
@martin2514 8 ай бұрын
If firearms laws needed a picture!!!!
@jasonklaffer6926 8 ай бұрын
If pro nouns needed a mascot !!!
@badchefi 8 ай бұрын
That only shows how weak gun laws get undermined - this shotgun is designed to take people out. There is no scenario In Australian hunting that warrants such weapon. Just silly toys for silly boys -
@TXC_GCK_ 8 ай бұрын
I take it you don’t hunt pigs
@badchefi 8 ай бұрын
@@TXC_GCK_ I do but don’t need a tacticool toy for it.
@vermithan8198 8 ай бұрын
Go pound sand, fudd.
@badchefi 8 ай бұрын
@@Gangster88232 without controlling animal populations your place be a mess.
@badchefi 8 ай бұрын
@@vermithan8198 you keep pounding your sister….
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