Sumerian Origins and Ancient DNA | Geneticist Razib Khan

@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449 3 жыл бұрын

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@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449 3 жыл бұрын

@@laketahoeoverdose4387 thanks for watching! I had a blast recording with him!

@laketahoeoverdose4387 3 жыл бұрын

He is brilliant and needs another episode... anyone reading Leonard Woolley as a kid probably has a lot more to say in this day and age... They tell us themselves they came from Aratta... I would like to hear him speak on that and the future DNA testing potential of Queen Puabi. Thank you excellent episode 👏

@bacoda58 3 жыл бұрын

They called themselves the black HEADED people.That does not necessarily translate to the black "haired" people. When it is considered that they called themselves "black headed" instead of the "black people" the term shies away from an ethnic determination such as "black people" vs "white people" etc. It may have very well described clothing style-the headdress in particular.

@lilyw.719 3 жыл бұрын

@@bacoda58 I like that idea, so I can see that. But, I do have a different theory. My immediate first thought was that much of the Middle East was populated from people who came down out of the Caucus mountains and had the blond or red hair and blue eyes that we see in so much of the statuary in the Middle East and farther east. So it would make sense for the Sumerians to differentiate themselves as being a people with black hair. This anthropologist already dismissed that theory, but he seems like the type who ignores evidence he doesn't like.

@berserk9085 3 жыл бұрын

@@lilyw.719 there is no caucus mountains you expert.

@skeletalbassman1028 3 жыл бұрын

Razib gave a great presentation, allowing for plenty of nuance but still giving us passion and joy. Would love to hear more from him.

@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449 3 жыл бұрын

Noted and I could not agree more!

@ramazanyalcn3660 3 жыл бұрын

Sumerians + Inca + Maya + Aztecs + Turks are the same European culture and people, Native Americans (Inca-Maya-Aztecs) and He cannot accept that the Sumerians are Turks. Even when tested on DNA, they cannot say they are Turkish. It is available in many words used in the Sumerian language. Many words are the same or very similar to each other. Sumerians + Inca + Maya + Aztecs + Turks are the same Their religious beliefs, cultures, languages are almost the same, hundreds of words prove that they are Turkish and emigrated from Central Asia.

@Michael_De_Santa-Unofficial 2 жыл бұрын

@@ramazanyalcn3660 Ah! A radical ethnocentrist! How wonderful!

@unrealuknow864 2 жыл бұрын

@@ramazanyalcn3660 actually they probably came from the area around the current Straights of Hormuz when the Persian Gulf was dry land.

@dorasmith7875 28 күн бұрын

Nuance on WHAT. It does not contain one. Single. Fact.

@starrshamek5449 3 жыл бұрын

We have a Native American group in New Mexico that has their own Language unlike any other , they are called the Zuni.

@unapologetic7281 2 жыл бұрын

The first native Americans were South Asians, Australians and Melanesians. The ancient Maya murals prove it.

@unapologetic7281 2 жыл бұрын

@Ahead Of The Curve there’s no such thing lol. Stop adding ‘Kushite’ to everything relating to south Asians.

@paticusmaximus12 2 жыл бұрын

Hammites?

@kylelundgren5133 2 жыл бұрын

Nice to see some British israelism. Now please go back to worshipping the holy Jew Is in your magical book.

@brucetucker4847 2 жыл бұрын

@@unapologetic7281 Nonsense. DNA proves otherwise.

@leemarlin9415 3 жыл бұрын

Razib Khan: Interesting perspective. I like the way he gets his thoughts out there. Informed but not opinionated. Looking for knowledge not for credit a good trait in a researcher.

@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449 3 жыл бұрын

Yes! I absolutely loved interviewing him! Intelligent, informed and he has a sense of humor!

@ramazanyalcn3660 3 жыл бұрын

Sumerians + Inca + Maya + Aztecs + Turks are the same European culture and people, Native Americans (Inca-Maya-Aztecs) and He cannot accept that the Sumerians are Turks. Even when tested on DNA, they cannot say they are Turkish. It is available in many words used in the Sumerian language. Many words are the same or very similar to each other. Sumerians + Inca + Maya + Aztecs + Turks are the same Their religious beliefs, cultures, languages are almost the same, hundreds of words prove that they are Turkish and emigrated from Central Asia.

@rosalynbeatty8310 Жыл бұрын

@@ramazanyalcn3660 I read of how the Sumerians migrated from Ethiopia. Incas Mayas & Aztecs r Native Americans.

@teresafernandez9849 9 ай бұрын

@@rosalynbeatty8310DNA doesn't agree with you and what you read.

@gilgamesh-antara 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much Because you Gave content about Sumerian-Iraqi history, I would love to add to your information. We in southern Iraq still use Sumerian phrases to this day.

@jimimased1894 3 жыл бұрын

thats amazing to hear!

@ramazanyalcn3660 3 жыл бұрын

Sumerians + Inca + Maya + Aztecs + Turks are the same European culture and people, Native Americans (Inca-Maya-Aztecs) and He cannot accept that the Sumerians are Turks. Even when tested on DNA, they cannot say they are Turkish. It is available in many words used in the Sumerian language. Many words are the same or very similar to each other. Sumerians + Inca + Maya + Aztecs + Turks are the same Their religious beliefs, cultures, languages are almost the same, hundreds of words prove that they are Turkish and emigrated from Central Asia.

@lovingkat5 2 жыл бұрын

@@ramazanyalcn3660 correctomundo!! and by the way "we the people" know, is the powers in charge that is keeping that knowledge hidden

@gotian6649 2 жыл бұрын

@@ramazanyalcn3660 tork come from magnolia Tork never ever been in this land All tork migrated from magnolia and uyghur in China

@luislaplume8261 2 жыл бұрын

@@ramazanyalcn3660 Then explain why there are no sculptures of Incas and Mayan men with beards.

@keywestconch8 2 жыл бұрын

I had to subscribe. This is the best interview I have watched in a very long time. Thank you for having him in and thank you for asking informative questions and allowing him to speak uninterrupted. Looking forward to the rest of your videos.

@daviddantonio5702 3 жыл бұрын

Great video Nick and awesome guest. Razib produces so much interesting and informative content on these subjects.

@sandrapicton6349 Жыл бұрын

What a delightful lecturer, I have learned so much from this and look forward to future revelations. Thank you both.

@eTraxx 3 жыл бұрын

This is the kind of thing that fascinates me .. not Hollyweird etc.

@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449 3 жыл бұрын

Agreed! Thanks for watching!

@ramazanyalcn3660 3 жыл бұрын

Sumerians + Inca + Maya + Aztecs + Turks are the same European culture and people, Native Americans (Inca-Maya-Aztecs) and He cannot accept that the Sumerians are Turks. Even when tested on DNA, they cannot say they are Turkish. It is available in many words used in the Sumerian language. Many words are the same or very similar to each other. Sumerians + Inca + Maya + Aztecs + Turks are the same Their religious beliefs, cultures, languages are almost the same, hundreds of words prove that they are Turkish and emigrated from Central Asia.

@SporeMurph 3 жыл бұрын

What he said was perfectly reasonable speculation, but this video's title is once again misleading since it does not present ANY information about Ancient DNA from the Sumerians.

@usergiodmsilva1983PT 3 жыл бұрын

Exactly.

@gutar5675 3 жыл бұрын

I think it refers to the article that Razib Khan wrote which they are discussing in this video titled 'Ancient DNA and Sumerians'

@ericthegreat7805 3 жыл бұрын

To be fair he did talk about whether they were indigenous or not, but it was more so speculation

@candacesmith6179 3 жыл бұрын

Please bring him back! Great conversation 👌

@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your comment! Bringing him back is the plan!

@Coden11 3 жыл бұрын

I agree. Mr. Khan's enthusiasm for the subject was delightful.

@theconnecteduniverse1video629 3 жыл бұрын

No please dont . Hes not informative n too much blablabla

@barielfrank5173 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent video Nick!

@dorianphilotheates3769 2 жыл бұрын

Smart guy; thanks for having him on. Well done.

@claesvanoldenphatt9972 3 жыл бұрын

Sumerian isoglossia might be just a feature of the ancient world of many isolated and virtually unrelated languages that used to obtain worldwide. The same linguistic situation of relatively small populations that evolved in situ in the era directly after the end of the last ice age, before much trade and travel had been established, might have persisted well into the early period of the foundations of Sumerian civilization. The Caucasus is a perfect example of this linguistic diversity. If Sumerian cultural life was robust enough past the era of its origination it could have maintained its distinctiveness like some of its neighbors like Elam. Isolation of language is a feature of the old world before imperial amalgamation occurred in historical times.

@peggymattie5191 3 жыл бұрын

Enjoyed this one much.

@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching! I had a lot of fun with this!

@teacon7 Жыл бұрын

This is pretty interesting. Not expected. I almost wish he could have pictures/graphs up of what he's talking about. Thanks for getting him on.

@kuvasz5252 2 жыл бұрын

A wonderful video. Kudos to both host and guest. Hopefully, soon we will get some substantive DNA data on this subject. Until then, it is still a comparison of cultural artifacts that drive the determination of who these people are and from whence they came. Sumerian myths tell of their people moving into Sumer from the south. There are archeological findings of earthenware in areas of the southern coast of the Saudi peninsula that match closely with pre-historic Sumer. Which way were the people, or culture going? btw my favorite text in this area/time is "A History of the Ancient Near East, ca, 3000-323 BC" 3rd Ed. by Marc Van De Mieroop

@hunszkita1 2 жыл бұрын

STUDY the MAGYAR LANGUAGE .....you will be suprised 2000+ words same as sumer and city names too

@MylesFCorcoran 3 жыл бұрын

I once herd that the native peoples who lived on the coast between my home in Santa Cruz California and San Francisco spoke a variety of different languages. I never followed up on that but this discussion reminded me of it.

@gonzaloveloso2891 Жыл бұрын

In the Philippines distance of 30 mI, the language accent totally different. It's like Bostonian and Deep Southern Accent. 50mI+ It becomes another dialect. My parents were from the Southern Philippines, My Mother's township is bordered by a bridge. two different distinctive dialects spoken on each end of the bridge. So growing up in the Philippines I had to speak both of my parents Dialects, the National language, English and Spanish. And still I don't comprehend my wife's language, I just nod my head and hope for the best. All the nodding of my head and the gestures of agreeing to whatever she's is saying, I am still in the wrong.

@tymanung6382 Жыл бұрын

Were those various dialects of Ohlone?

@davefletch3063 Жыл бұрын

The epic of Gilgamesh song in Sumerian sounds amazing, that guy did a great job putting that together

@Luke2777F 3 жыл бұрын

Great talk!

@michaelbartholomew1110 3 жыл бұрын

With reference to speaking French in France, my great great uncle and aunt (around 1940's) spoke french but also a speparate language from the Dax area.

@HSS7564 2 жыл бұрын

This man is just talking with out saying any thing 👊🏿👊🏿

@GUULLIVER 2 ай бұрын

_...or maybe you are listening without understanding anything!!?_

@lcmlcm2460 5 ай бұрын

Thank you for this presentation. I was always intrigued by the Sumerian culture. I especially wonder where they come from. I had no idea that languages after theirs were not from them. Makes them even more interesting. Thanks ❤

@gangadharhiremath7306 3 жыл бұрын

Mr.Khan beats around the bush a lot. Even if the archeological issues are a bit vague and difficult to summarise,there are ways of expressions that can make the matter a little more coherent.

@XAViiERSBABii 4 ай бұрын

exactly how i felt.! trying to use a lot of cosmic language...there is a lot of better articulated information regarding the Sumerians available and the Bible talks about the Sumerians as well.

@jansundvall2082 3 жыл бұрын

Please do the same with the Elamites.

@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449 3 жыл бұрын

I think that can be arranged!

@faarsight 3 жыл бұрын

This theory makes a ton of sense, think about it. How long does it take a language group to diverge so much that you can't even reconstruct them as coming from the same language family originally? Four thousand years maybe? Ten at most. How long have humans been speaking? We don't quite know obviously but it's almost certainly more than 100 000 years. It makes sense that the pre-historic world was filled with different language groups the same way we see in pre contact North America and other hunter gatherer societies. Sure trade and such existed in the stone age, even quite long distant trade but they were probably using lingua franca or just learning new languages as necessary or even communicating using gestures or what have you. It makes sense that this world was incredibly fractured culturally and linguistically.

@greenfireball2882 Жыл бұрын

This is so fascinating..

@MegaMar20 6 ай бұрын

great conversation.

@multivitamin425 3 жыл бұрын

I've been thinking recently about Epic of Gilgamesh, and I came to a conclusion that, all those events are actually ancestral memories of grandparents of their grandparents, back in the paleo-neolithic boundary where peoples just started forming groups and identity. Bilga mes meaning the ancestor hero, where they put all of those remembered brave men that cared for and lead its tribe, defended against monsters such as sabertooths and mammoths, how they inspired generations of young men to stand up for their people and lead them to better lands. The epic explains how the elements didn't favor them and how dark inner humanity often had the better of a man than righteousness and morality. The nature of a man can be tracked from its very beginnings which are portraited as monsters, beasts and characters as Humbaba. Enkidu himself could be one of the last remaining Neanderthals or some extinct human species, therefore being hairy and alien, but welcomed, as he is human as any other. Which could interpret the meeting of different species and tribes. Gilgamesh finding the way of immortality may be a metaphor for generations of orally passed stories of great men and warriors that kept the qualities and values of the culture they were building. In a way, Gilgamesh, the great heroes of our ancestors, became immortals in our tradition and culture up until today.

@catalyst3713 3 жыл бұрын

Interesting.

@NilmaBostonRio1 3 жыл бұрын

Wow!

@GUULLIVER Жыл бұрын

Very vitaminous comment!!! 🤣

@MarcOlivermusic Жыл бұрын

Easier to believe what they have written. Dont forget they were highly sophisticated in architecture.

@best7231 Жыл бұрын

and after all that they each grabbed their stones and started smashing them together so they can make the 1000 ton bricks for the great pyramids and carry them with their horse and buggies.. ALL of you people need to stop drinking the kool-aid being feed to you and open your minds... Our Father in heaven and our savior Jesus Christ will help you find the truth if you allow him to... but, stop believing the BS stories that we have being force fed since birth to regurgitate in order to "PASS" in so called education system... education systems are just regurgitation asylums...

@sandroschmitt5660 3 жыл бұрын

Razib Khan seems to know the musical version of the great Peter Pringle for the Epic of Gilgamesh !

@sizzlegrizzle1836 4 ай бұрын

This was so enjoyable! Both informative and entertaining. Normally I play stardew valley while listening to long form history content but this was just too interesting :):)

@Alex_Plante 3 жыл бұрын

Great guest!

@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449 3 жыл бұрын

He was! Thanks for watching and enjoying it!

@lisaking9543 3 жыл бұрын

I appreciate that he pointed out the limitations of DNA in the study of the cultures of various peoples.

@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, my thoughts exactly! Thank you for watching!

@zhizhi9138 3 жыл бұрын

What is the problem? To collect Dna? When it is not problem to vaccinate whole world!!!!! What is the problem?

@lilyw.719 3 жыл бұрын

@@zhizhi9138 I don't think there is a genuine problem at all, I just don't think that guy likes the results.

@usergiodmsilva1983PT 3 жыл бұрын

The points that are made don't make much sense really...

@lazynow1 Жыл бұрын

Okay....what is missing from this entire discussion is that in entire Persian Gulf during the last ice age for 100,000 years was a massive valley that was a regular land mass because the global sea level were much lower then. Only recently did the Persian Gulf flood because of rising ocean level...also the entire area was much wetter than it is today......the original Sumerian villages are at the bottom of the Persian Gulf

@earlygenesistherevealedcos1982 Жыл бұрын

Interesting map at 2:41. It shows the rivers flowing down and "dividing into four heads" in Sumer. Do you know where it came from?

@mollymcguire3622 3 жыл бұрын

fantastic guest

@Wallyworld30 3 жыл бұрын

Very informative and interesting TY!

@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching and commenting your support!

@ramazanyalcn3660 3 жыл бұрын

Sumerians + Inca + Maya + Aztecs + Turks are the same European culture and people, Native Americans (Inca-Maya-Aztecs) and He cannot accept that the Sumerians are Turks. Even when tested on DNA, they cannot say they are Turkish. It is available in many words used in the Sumerian language. Many words are the same or very similar to each other. Sumerians + Inca + Maya + Aztecs + Turks are the same Their religious beliefs, cultures, languages are almost the same, hundreds of words prove that they are Turkish and emigrated from Central Asia.

@tonimontagna4281 3 жыл бұрын

Great speech, keep up the good work!

@tdot9140 3 жыл бұрын

Great guest! Terrific interviewer! 👍Thanks for this. I’m now a subscriber.

@daysofnoah1748 Жыл бұрын

Amazing !

@mweskamppp 3 жыл бұрын

Is there a possibility for a connection to the Mohenjo daro culture from the Indus? But you would know for there was a connection to a language from that area, right?

@VasuDevan-vh4rn 11 ай бұрын

Try looking into linguistic relationship between Sumerian and Tamil. There is a definite connection

@octavianova1300 2 жыл бұрын

considering the fact that what is now the Persian Gulf was land not that long before the rise of Sumer, I feel like a southern migratory route is not all that farfetched. It would also help explain why Sumerian is a language isolate.

@jameskernan4848 3 жыл бұрын

Still, its fun to think about these things.

@christominello 3 жыл бұрын

Incredible interview. Have him back when new data eventually emerges!

@aperson8916 2 жыл бұрын

Loving the comment section where everyone wants to claim the Sumerian as their own 🤣 the creativity is pretty impressive.

@gerardmichaelburnsjr. 8 ай бұрын

Mr. Khan is not only knowledgeable about the broad range of information known about early Mesopotamian and nearby cultures, he is obviously a real critical thinker. I think he is likely to be very right that linguistic or genetic isolates

@dwainkitchel1316 3 жыл бұрын

more of this please

@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449 3 жыл бұрын

We have one coming soon on the Origin of the Hyksos!

@arjantakin Жыл бұрын

I disagree about his views on linguistic connection of Sumerian language to any modern language. This view drives from IndoEuro-Semitic centeric analysis that have tinted the archeology. Based on this view, anything that is not Indo-European or Semitic is labeled as "Isolate". This gentleman, despite having a Turkic-Mongolian last name, apparently has never heard sound of any Turkic language. Most Sumerian words that we know have either similar meaning or similar sounds in Turkic languages. Let's start with his own example "Gilgamesh" that he claims sounds very alien. Indeed, in Turkic languages this sounds very familiar because Gil or Kil means tiny hair and Gamesh or Kamish means Bamboo/Straw. So at least sound wise it sounds very Turkic (Sari-Kamish in Turkey and Ghamish-li, in Northern Syria and many other places in Turkey, Caucasus, Iran and Centra Asia with variants of Ghamesh or Kamish ). Also the Sumerian words for example for mother (Ama), father (Ada), water (ApSu), God(Dingir), Star (Ul), narrow (Sig) ...... have similar sounds and identical meanings in Turkic languages ( Ana for mother, Ata for father, Su for water, Tengri for God, Ulduz/Yildiz for Star and Sig'in for squeezing into a small and narrow place..... The similarities are endless. Also, Sumerians called their region Kengir we still have this name for some regions, people and a plant in the form of Kangar in Turkic world. Just type in the last name Kangar'Lu (with different suffix variants of Lu, Lou, Loo and Li all meaning from Kangar) see how many will come up. Also, all the carvings and statues of the ancient people of that region (Semitic and Indio-European origin) are bearded but Sumerian ones have no beard and that plus other facial features shows their central Asian origin.

@selmanaskn462 Жыл бұрын

Congratulations. This is the comment what I look for.

@melisawitz1607 3 жыл бұрын

Razib Khan,very interested in what your thoughts are on rh-bloodlines,I find this topic very interesting thanks for allowing me to watch

@jeffreyforeman5031 2 жыл бұрын

what is the museum behind you??

@kerrydwightwalter4621 7 ай бұрын

As informative as Razib was, and I look forward to more from him, the interviewer was excellent. So often, interviewers often lack depth and understanding and lack an appropriate approach, which allows for the most information to be shared with the listeners from the interviewed. In short, a good interviewer allows the interviewed to share their story without interruptions, and with informed guidance and questioning. So many thanks to both, but I know not who the interviewer was, and found nothing in the notes to help.

@davidallard1980 2 жыл бұрын

Hey, Im no geneticist, but I know enough to know that all blue eyed people share a common ancestor from the Black Sea region, from thousands and thousands of years ago. Blue eyes appear quite frequently in Sumerian artwork. So you might not have their entire genetic profile on record, but with logic you can deduce that they too share that same common ancestor, and from there it might be easier to figure out where they actually came from.

@Biblical_DNA 2 жыл бұрын

The people North of the Sumerians were blue-eyed, blonde hair and fair skinned. These same people came to what we call Israel today 6,500 years ago.

@rosalynbeatty8310 Жыл бұрын

@@Biblical_DNA North of Sumeria, even in Europe the people were a medium-dark brown skin w/ dark wavy hair & sometimes blue eyed.

@atrichardable 6 ай бұрын

What about all the mélanated south Asians who posses blue eyes like that melanisians ,

@atrichardable 6 ай бұрын

I doubt they would’ve even went into the Black Sea region most austrnoid groups in that region have been there since the beginning of human migration out of Africa

@davidallard1980 6 ай бұрын

Its a fact. Mixed people exist. Also a fact.@@atrichardable

@jjohnson5014 3 жыл бұрын

Razib Khan is interesting, but he's gotta get the lighting dialed in.

@johnmceiver3769 Жыл бұрын

brilliant

@blossomjoseph5541 3 жыл бұрын

Mr Kahn is very understandable

@shehriyarkhan3904 3 жыл бұрын

Intriguing discussion! I’d also love for the channel to touch upon the Indus Valley Civilization (the script of which is still undeciphered!).

@deanfirnatine7814 3 жыл бұрын

Mohenjaro and Harrapa are fascinating

@mustafy2066 3 жыл бұрын

i wish i could help every reseacher to do in Iraq, I'm from south of iraq & it kinda hurt to hear that ,for silly political reasons ,no outsider researcher can get in & do some archaeology..

@theconnecteduniverse1video629 3 жыл бұрын

There r too many studies on southren iraqis shows they are decent of Sumerian. But that guy is too blablabla n not informative

@ramazanyalcn3660 3 жыл бұрын

Sumerians + Inca + Maya + Aztecs + Turks are the same European culture and people, Native Americans (Inca-Maya-Aztecs) and He cannot accept that the Sumerians are Turks. Even when tested on DNA, they cannot say they are Turkish. It is available in many words used in the Sumerian language. Many words are the same or very similar to each other. Sumerians + Inca + Maya + Aztecs + Turks are the same Their religious beliefs, cultures, languages are almost the same, hundreds of words prove that they are Turkish and emigrated from Central Asia.

@I_ASKED_7 2 ай бұрын

@@ramazanyalcn3660summer aren't turks they are iraq yall are Mongolians

@godschild3640 23 күн бұрын

@@theconnecteduniverse1video629. Do you invaded Iran and killed the original people and then they took over Israel 🇮🇱

@luislaplume8261 2 жыл бұрын

In the Old Testament, the word Shinar is the transliteration of Sumerian word from Sumerian to Hebrew. Shinar means the country of Sumer. It began circa 4000 B.C.

@pedrozs1 Жыл бұрын

what the song name?

@osamahmousa Жыл бұрын

Was born in Sumerian marshes, south of modern Iraqi, my grandfather’s house was made of reeds as same as Sumerian houses, we have a tree of our background back to 400 years ago and still in the marshes, they had been isolated there, but we speak Arabic with some words aged back to Sumerian people, as archeologists said! I don’t know if have Sumerian roots, but we look like them according to their facial features! According to the history, that Jewish came in, Arabs came in with Islam, so a lot of people converted under threat of sword! So with time that Sumerian language which was Aramaic, has been vanished! 😢 Edit: Sumerian language wasn’t Aramaic, but it is agglutinating" language with no known relatives!

@tengrici431 Жыл бұрын

sumerian language is not aramaic. sumerian language is agglutinative, it is not related to any middle eastern languages.

@assyriannahrin Жыл бұрын

Sumerian is not Aramaic at all

@filipesugden1982 11 ай бұрын

you are probably semitic, I doubt sumerians were semitic

@ramazanyalcn3660 9 ай бұрын

Why don't people use their mind and intelligence? They saw the apple fall to the ground for thousands of years, but they could not understand the force of gravity. Every language has words from other languages. This does not affect anyone's ethnicity. The points to be considered are the language structure, grammar and in which other geographies the words are used. The words used in the Sumerian language were used in the Etruscan language. The words used in Scythian, Sumerian and Etruscan languages were also used in Ancient Egyptian, Aztec, Maya, Inca Languages. Thousands of Turkish and Proto-Turkish words continue to be used by Native Americans today. Muazzez İlmiye Çığ is the most influential person in the field of Sumerian civilization and Sumerian culture. Because Muazzez İlmiye Çığ is the world's leading Sumerologist. I recommend you to examine the researches of Müezzez İlmiye Çığ. Conclusion The Sumerians are a branch of the Central Asian Turks. There is an internationally accepted fact. A society must have at least 7 common features in order to determine its nationality. The Sumerian civilization has at least 200 common features with the Central Asian Turks. Etruscans have hundreds of common features with Central Asian Turks. Native Americans and Central Asian Turks have thousands of common features. Proto-Turkish is the oldest language. All languages are derived from and evolved from proto-Turkish. All languages, including Indo-European languages. There are thousands of Turkish words in Hindi and Sanskrit. The word Siberia means paradise in old Turkish. The origin of the word Shiva, which is constantly spoken by the inhabitants of India, is "sibir". This means that Proto-Turkish, the oldest language in the world, and Native American languages, which today belong to the proto-Turkish language group, formed the dialects of the Paradise language. That's why Native American languages are so precious and special. Koran: Surah Hucurat: O people, remember that we created you from a male and a female - from Adam and Eve. (You are all one in this matter, you have no right to boast to each other) And we have divided you into tribes so that you can get to know each other. When did this happen? Could it have happened in the time of the prophet Noah? In particular, Anglo-Saxon and Jewish historians do not accept, despite all the evidence, that the Sumerians, Etruscans, and Native Americans were Turks and their languages were Proto-Turkic dialects. They cannot accept. Because they are afraid that European civilization will be revealed to be an illusion, a fake.

@sainathkulasekar6745 8 ай бұрын

It is related to Tamil in Southern TamilNadu.

@scifience8297 3 жыл бұрын

Please do a video on the interaction between the vikings and muslims

@jansundvall2082 3 жыл бұрын

Nordmän och Särkland

@HaiderAlZubaidi Жыл бұрын

Nice 😊 Greetings from Baghdad, Iraq 🇮🇶

@denismichel8385 3 ай бұрын

Origin of the ancien sumerian may be related to the fact that the entire persian gulf was empty during last glaciation and refilled slowly during the following millenials. Hunter-Gatherers groups living there had to migrate toward what became sumerian civilisation in the north and Jiroft culture near Ormuz

@exoplanet11 2 жыл бұрын

I appreciate the discussion of a fascinating topic. I can't say I learned much from this particular discussion about Sumerian origins. The origins of the Sumerians are probably linked (in some way) to the preceding cultures of Mesopotamia, which include: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uruk_period en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubaid_period en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samarra_culture en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hassuna_culture en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pre-Pottery_Neolithic_B

@963ag 2 жыл бұрын

I have read scholarly articles linking the Magyar ( Hungarian) language and Sumerian. Also, a similarity of myths/ legends such as the White Stag, Nimrod etc. What is your opinion of this Mr. Khan?

@benyovszkyistvan408 Жыл бұрын

Dear Annette! Language kinship is entirely based on reality! The deer is not white but a miracle :) The most beautiful and perhaps the most difficult language in the world to learn. This is the ancient Hungarian runic writing. 7000-8000 years old, from this Sumerian writing and culture developed: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oaibfcZnqN7PlWg.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bNyhZtqAzKrGYqc.html If you receive and read the books of Ferenc Badiny Jós. He was a Hungarian linguist and Sumerologist.

@davefiers6184 Жыл бұрын

This is true also they used a 160 different languages to decipher Sumerian and Hungary HAd the most common letters to Sumerian to decipher it followed by the Turks. Also sumerians are rumoured to head north to Central Asia and possible connection to Attila the Hun also. We huns lived amongst what we call skythia though we believe we are the original skythians with Turks and not indo Europeans plus skythian clothing and horse back culture non of indo Europe has that shared culture but we do! The romans tried to erase our culture language and history and also our language is very alien to Europe no language like Hungarian spoken in Europe and don’t say Finnish as i can’t understand literally one word of Finnish yet I speak fluent Hungarian

@davefiers6184 Жыл бұрын

Yes we have the same myths as Sumerians can’t have been randomly made up

@gideonros2705 11 ай бұрын

@@davefiers6184 Lot of bolocks here

@ramazanyalcn3660 9 ай бұрын

Why don't people use their mind and intelligence? They saw the apple fall to the ground for thousands of years, but they could not understand the force of gravity. Every language has words from other languages. This does not affect anyone's ethnicity. The points to be considered are the language structure, grammar and in which other geographies the words are used. The words used in the Sumerian language were used in the Etruscan language. The words used in Scythian, Sumerian and Etruscan languages were also used in Ancient Egyptian, Aztec, Maya, Inca Languages. Thousands of Turkish and Proto-Turkish words continue to be used by Native Americans today. Muazzez İlmiye Çığ is the most influential person in the field of Sumerian civilization and Sumerian culture. Because Muazzez İlmiye Çığ is the world's leading Sumerologist. I recommend you to examine the researches of Müezzez İlmiye Çığ. Conclusion The Sumerians are a branch of the Central Asian Turks. There is an internationally accepted fact. A society must have at least 7 common features in order to determine its nationality. The Sumerian civilization has at least 200 common features with the Central Asian Turks. Etruscans have hundreds of common features with Central Asian Turks. Native Americans and Central Asian Turks have thousands of common features. Proto-Turkish is the oldest language. All languages are derived from and evolved from proto-Turkish. All languages, including Indo-European languages. There are thousands of Turkish words in Hindi and Sanskrit. The word Siberia means paradise in old Turkish. The origin of the word Shiva, which is constantly spoken by the inhabitants of India, is "sibir". This means that Proto-Turkish, the oldest language in the world, and Native American languages, which today belong to the proto-Turkish language group, formed the dialects of the Paradise language. That's why Native American languages are so precious and special. Koran: Surah Hucurat: O people, remember that we created you from a male and a female - from Adam and Eve. (You are all one in this matter, you have no right to boast to each other) And we have divided you into tribes so that you can get to know each other. When did this happen? Could it have happened in the time of the prophet Noah? In particular, Anglo-Saxon and Jewish historians do not accept, despite all the evidence, that the Sumerians, Etruscans, and Native Americans were Turks and their languages were Proto-Turkic dialects. They cannot accept. Because they are afraid that European civilization will be revealed to be an illusion, a fake.

@billricheson3394 8 ай бұрын

Great topic--important and interesting. I can also be interested in "a personal journey about the topic" --the direction your guest took the topic; however, Sumerian ethnicity has been mistaken for years and sometimes on purpose. Some don't want the beginners of civilization to be from Africa. The DNA is important. Yes it is different than culture, language and communication, but that is no reason to exclude or undervalue it.

@ashurmalka5232 7 ай бұрын

Where did you learn this history from .?

@sonofmesopotamia4705 2 жыл бұрын

I am proud to be from Mesopotamia 🥰😍

@jamilsuriel4406 Жыл бұрын

What country u from ?

@tomasvrabec1845 11 ай бұрын

@@jamilsuriel4406 I mean... That would be Iraq. No other country lies IN Messopotamia than Iraq. There are countries around it

@vilisveidis 3 жыл бұрын

Next ancient DNA episode could be about the Akkadians, if you haven't already!?

@johnwilliams5570 3 жыл бұрын

Akkadian dna is sumerian with admixture. The sumerians had a stronghold in egypt. Look at the gebel ar arak knife

@johnwilliams5570 3 жыл бұрын

They eventually migrated south to avoid the west. They come originally from tartars. Sumerians peopled harran before Akkad, that is how Sargon was able to move down river

@benicdovic5071 3 жыл бұрын

@Mike H the term semetic is garbege word, the word semetic wss invented seversl years ago,in ancient there is no semetic as people,rhis eord was invented to manipulated human history

@ramazanyalcn3660 3 жыл бұрын

Sumerians + Inca + Maya + Aztecs + Turks are the same European culture and people, Native Americans (Inca-Maya-Aztecs) and He cannot accept that the Sumerians are Turks. Even when tested on DNA, they cannot say they are Turkish. It is available in many words used in the Sumerian language. Many words are the same or very similar to each other. Sumerians + Inca + Maya + Aztecs + Turks are the same Their religious beliefs, cultures, languages are almost the same, hundreds of words prove that they are Turkish and emigrated from Central Asia.

@fethimut645 2 жыл бұрын

Guti Gutien=Kurdisch (Kurde) Akkadians=Kurde 💯

@shchoi9844 Жыл бұрын

Well done and nice place to talk over Sumer herein: Sumer was called by Assyrian and Sumerian did themselves as Ungsanggigga what black headed comes from. Then we may deduce Sumer has same meaning as Ungsanggigga, black head. Surprisingly with current Korean we can access them very easily: -Sang in Ungsang can be translated as "head", meaning as leader religiously & politically, and other as "trading people(?)", too. -Ung is used as "bear" in animal or "male, man". Bear in Korean pronounces closely "black". It seems to me Ungsang was just literary translated as black head, but it be more realistically as outstanding head or excellent leader. -Su in sumer we have excellent or outstanding meaning, or Su colloquial means male from Ung literary and "mer", meru is closely pronounced meori(no vowel in English) as head in Korean by simple vowel changes. -So Ungsang by Sumerian as literary style like Latin, what was directly translated black head has the same meaning Sumer, what looks more colloquial style by Assyrian. -Gigga means as ethnic group or family. The writing system as cuneiform by Sumerian, first glyph in east Asia developed Chinese character and scientific Korean alphabet system Hangul looks very well connected, and more Sumerian diaspora around BCE19C who were religious and of trading people at Canaan or Ugarit might stimulate Alphabet development. Please come in Korean and I am sure you will find much more about Sumerian!

@marcus.g.4273 10 ай бұрын

Gtfoh, they were not Asian... They were from Africa.

@ramazanyalcn3660 9 ай бұрын

Why don't people use their mind and intelligence? They saw the apple fall to the ground for thousands of years, but they could not understand the force of gravity. Every language has words from other languages. This does not affect anyone's ethnicity. The points to be considered are the language structure, grammar and in which other geographies the words are used. The words used in the Sumerian language were used in the Etruscan language. The words used in Scythian, Sumerian and Etruscan languages were also used in Ancient Egyptian, Aztec, Maya, Inca Languages. Thousands of Turkish and Proto-Turkish words continue to be used by Native Americans today. Muazzez İlmiye Çığ is the most influential person in the field of Sumerian civilization and Sumerian culture. Because Muazzez İlmiye Çığ is the world's leading Sumerologist. I recommend you to examine the researches of Müezzez İlmiye Çığ. Conclusion The Sumerians are a branch of the Central Asian Turks. There is an internationally accepted fact. A society must have at least 7 common features in order to determine its nationality. The Sumerian civilization has at least 200 common features with the Central Asian Turks. Etruscans have hundreds of common features with Central Asian Turks. Native Americans and Central Asian Turks have thousands of common features. Proto-Turkish is the oldest language. All languages are derived from and evolved from proto-Turkish. All languages, including Indo-European languages. There are thousands of Turkish words in Hindi and Sanskrit. The word Siberia means paradise in old Turkish. The origin of the word Shiva, which is constantly spoken by the inhabitants of India, is "sibir". This means that Proto-Turkish, the oldest language in the world, and Native American languages, which today belong to the proto-Turkish language group, formed the dialects of the Paradise language. That's why Native American languages are so precious and special. Koran: Surah Hucurat: O people, remember that we created you from a male and a female - from Adam and Eve. (You are all one in this matter, you have no right to boast to each other) And we have divided you into tribes so that you can get to know each other. When did this happen? Could it have happened in the time of the prophet Noah? In particular, Anglo-Saxon and Jewish historians do not accept, despite all the evidence, that the Sumerians, Etruscans, and Native Americans were Turks and their languages were Proto-Turkic dialects. They cannot accept. Because they are afraid that European civilization will be revealed to be an illusion, a fake.

@ramazanyalcn3660 9 ай бұрын

@@marcus.g.4273 Why don't people use their mind and intelligence? They saw the apple fall to the ground for thousands of years, but they could not understand the force of gravity. Every language has words from other languages. This does not affect anyone's ethnicity. The points to be considered are the language structure, grammar and in which other geographies the words are used. The words used in the Sumerian language were used in the Etruscan language. The words used in Scythian, Sumerian and Etruscan languages were also used in Ancient Egyptian, Aztec, Maya, Inca Languages. Thousands of Turkish and Proto-Turkish words continue to be used by Native Americans today. Muazzez İlmiye Çığ is the most influential person in the field of Sumerian civilization and Sumerian culture. Because Muazzez İlmiye Çığ is the world's leading Sumerologist. I recommend you to examine the researches of Müezzez İlmiye Çığ. Conclusion The Sumerians are a branch of the Central Asian Turks. There is an internationally accepted fact. A society must have at least 7 common features in order to determine its nationality. The Sumerian civilization has at least 200 common features with the Central Asian Turks. Etruscans have hundreds of common features with Central Asian Turks. Native Americans and Central Asian Turks have thousands of common features. Proto-Turkish is the oldest language. All languages are derived from and evolved from proto-Turkish. All languages, including Indo-European languages. There are thousands of Turkish words in Hindi and Sanskrit. The word Siberia means paradise in old Turkish. The origin of the word Shiva, which is constantly spoken by the inhabitants of India, is "sibir". This means that Proto-Turkish, the oldest language in the world, and Native American languages, which today belong to the proto-Turkish language group, formed the dialects of the Paradise language. That's why Native American languages are so precious and special. Koran: Surah Hucurat: O people, remember that we created you from a male and a female - from Adam and Eve. (You are all one in this matter, you have no right to boast to each other) And we have divided you into tribes so that you can get to know each other. When did this happen? Could it have happened in the time of the prophet Noah? In particular, Anglo-Saxon and Jewish historians do not accept, despite all the evidence, that the Sumerians, Etruscans, and Native Americans were Turks and their languages were Proto-Turkic dialects. They cannot accept. Because they are afraid that European civilization will be revealed to be an illusion, a fake.

@lisakullack7155 2 жыл бұрын

I love this

@comment3711 3 жыл бұрын

Did I miss something here... What about their DNA? Is "DNA" not in the title? Yes of course culture is important but ethnicity is still interesting and significant. Who were they, who are they related to, etc?

@achintya.venkatesh 2 жыл бұрын

Fantastic insights as always, Razib. Still remember interacting with you for all the Harappa Ancestry Project stuff in the late 00s. Something elementary, but I believe the Sumerian word for city is Ur, and the Dravidian word for city is also Ooru. While perhaps not directly related, perhaps Sumer >> Elam >> Dravidian-speaking South Asia (Pre-IE) was a continuum. We have a language known as Brahui in Balochistan, also an isolate Dravidian language surrounded by Indo-Aryan and Iranian languages that might be a relic of a time when Dravidian languages were the dominant tongue at the time. Brahui, or at least the Dravidian parts of the modern tongue are pretty similar to ancient Tamil. The languages of Sumer, Elam and Dravidian languages are all agglutinative, too. The dominant West-Eurasian autosomal DNA cluster of South Asia is also West Asian, that adds credence to the theory of Neolithic Middle Eastern farmers speaking Dravidian languages coming to South Asia and mixing with its paleolithic/ASI inhabitants.

@rohith4966 2 жыл бұрын

There is definitely something to be noted here. My theory is that proto-Dravidian/Meluhhan/or whatever you want to call it was one of the many languages existing on the lower Iranian plateau. This would explain the sprachbund effect between these ancient languages. Like you said, these neolithic HG groups pushed eastwards into the Indus Basin where they would form the IVC along with the native Indian HG (AASI). Now looking at Dravidian genetics, especially at the non-brahmin peasant castes, there is elevated Iran N, higher than AASI many times. Strong YDNA lineages like J2 and L-M20 speak some truth to a southwards migration after the IVC collapse. I'm Telugu and am around 49% Iran N, calculated using my G25 coords. But the Ur- toponym angle is definitely a theory that should be explored more.

@rosalynbeatty8310 2 жыл бұрын

Didn't Sanskrit become agglutinative due to Dravidian influence?

@anamariemartin2098 2 жыл бұрын

Hi I come from Central America and I have a Levan descendent, and I can only imagine how long this people have been traveling.

@Sumerian_Tamil Жыл бұрын

My thesis is that early Sumerian spoke Tamil fluently and wrote in Tamil. This doesn't look into racial issues, but takes the Sumerian literature as internal evidences. We get third party external validation of Western scholars Sumerian literature recovering as fair in the present form of Tamil. There also appears to be cultural continuity in terms of temple based villages among business communities and Indian priests who are thought to entered India from North Western routes. See my works through Google scholar and Academia. I only recommend to revisit the early notion that Sumerian language was long dead, but investigate and evaluate.. Dr. Purushothaman, P.

@davefiers6184 Жыл бұрын

But they were which in their own pictures

@davefiers6184 Жыл бұрын

White

@mustiideli9234 4 ай бұрын

Both languages (Kurdish & Sumerian) are ergatives. In middle East today, there are four dominant languages: Arabic, Persian, Turkish and Kurdish. The only language in middle East which is ergative is Kurdish and of course „is/was“ Sumerian. antic linguist & historian already proved hundreds of incredible identical words as well as sentence structure (grammer) between sumerian & kurdsih (sorani) mainly spoken in Iraq. english: my mother is my life sumerian: ama mu zi mu (𒂼 𒈬 𒍣 𒈬) kurdish: ãma m ži/žīn m a english: my mother is shepherdess sumerian: ama mu šuba kurdish: ãma m šuãn a english: the man/young man is doing a fart ;) sumerian: lu dur aka kurdish: lãu tir akã and here u can listen how kurdish (sorani) sounds like! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gtKJn5BzvMnSZXk.htmlsi=HRDlPCBJMgFZD3Qf linguists are working on that & Benno Langsberger, sumerologe wrote, that sumerian & hurrian are very similar & one of them could be the „ancestor“ the hurrians from Zagros Mountains, are the ancestors of the gutians, mittanis, medes etc & kurds are the decendes of the medes & so one of the hurrians/sumerians😏

@vegahimsa3057 3 жыл бұрын

"black headed people", the words can be understood as "heads up in darkness" or "awake at a night" or just "stargazers".

@vegahimsa3057 3 жыл бұрын

Ug (wise), sag (head, leader, keeper), gig (black, dark, sky, night), ga (carry, light) Ki (land), en, gar (sunny)

@Coden11 3 жыл бұрын

@@vegahimsa3057 ancient astronomers.

@vegahimsa3057 3 жыл бұрын

@@Coden11 yes, that's my thought, though it's anyone's guess. However "head carry" refers to any human people (we carry our heads up). It's just the "black" that I'm skeptical about. Sumerian is an aglutative language: each letter or phenome has a vague meaning stacked together like Legos. "black" is anything dark like night. It could be referring to heads (like hair or skin color) but also what they did with those heads (like star gaze). Imagine how you'd express "awake" using only images or nouns (to express verbs and adjectives). Awake, alert, watching is "heads up" then and today. Wise dark heads up = astronomers.

@vegahimsa3057 3 жыл бұрын

While it can be understood as a single word, sentences were Subj-Obj-Verb. In English (SVO) we might understand: Wise night carry heads or "servants of heaven". And indeed, that's how we believe they understood their relationship with the gods. We still have traces of Sumar (which in Akkadian refers to red). Fx, SAGittarius comes from Pa.Bil.SAG, where SAG means "head" in all meanings, including leader, in front, top. We still use arrows today to convey direction or point to detail (which probably derives from many ancient cultures).

@vegahimsa3057 3 жыл бұрын

@Garamante civilization SAG=head is the quarter we can be most certain of. I have not defended "hair" nor "skin", although they are reasonable assumptions. "Civilized people" is also a popular but unsubstantiated assumption, but none the less, "people" is clearly referred. While I assume the "dark" refers to the night sky, most scholars seem to think it refers to the soil (Earth from which man was created). You're welcome to believe what you want, but your certainty is unjustified.

@danieldelathauwer4494 3 жыл бұрын

Where are all those heads, are they cut of and if whu, good intervieuw thanks Daniel Gent BE

@emilyhinton5740 3 жыл бұрын

Get it together!!

@williamliamsmith4923 7 ай бұрын

The names of towns: Ur, Nippur, etc are similar to South Indian Kannada town names - Bangalur (Bangalore), Konnur, Mysur (Mysore), etc. Ur means a town in Kannada.

@nobody8328 3 жыл бұрын

"Creepy Hebrew" 🤣

@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449 3 жыл бұрын

Lol I laughed my ass off when he said that.

@karinschultz5409 3 жыл бұрын

What I would be interested in is the Indus Valley Civilization of India and Pakistan which predates both Egypt and Mesopotamia. It is believed to be 8,000 years old. The Indus Script based on excavations at Harappa can be dated back to 2600-1900 BC. However, it should be remembered that archeologists started digging in Mesopotamia at Ur in the mid-19th century whereas the dig at Harappa, the first Indus Valley city found was excavated in 1921 followed by Mohenjo-daro in 1931. Just because the work was done in Sumer long before Harappa was discovered, does not make the Sumerian civilization older. As well Harappan seals were found in Mesopotamia, so it is thought that Indus Valley was older than Sumer.

@gipsy1695 3 жыл бұрын

The Sumerians started civilization 450.000 years ago and is the start of everything. Then there was the first flood that wiped everything away and they started over.. some areas in the world where not affected like North America, Europe and Russia. There was a second flood circa 1700 that’s why everything archeological found is under 10 to 30 meters deep. And the Middle Ages is a 1000 years hoax.. didn’t exist !!

@bryantarms 3 жыл бұрын

Maybe the "Black Heads" were refugees who were fleeing repercussions caused by the downfall of the Indus Valley Civilization. Apparently that happened at the end of the Ice Age when unbelievable amounts of meltwater caused sea levels to quickly rise and flood significant portions of the Indus Valley. The "Black Heads" obviously settled into and around the marshes of Ubaid\Sumer, which happen to be similar to the Indus Valley's lowlands. And they may have brought with them from the Indus Valley relatively advanced agricultural technologies such as a management structure\social system\culture that was uniquely capable of governing vast irrigation systems. Supposedly the Indus Valley civilization collapsed when management of its complex irrigation system became dysfunctional, which probably happened when the seat of government likely being near the lowlands didn't adapt quickly enough to people being displaced by the flooding sea. Advanced agricultural methods would have given refugees from the Indus Valley enough advantage to establish a permanent settlement in Ubaid\Sumer. That may have been the only safe location within migration distance of the Indus Valley for that kind of technology to implemented again. There seem to be too many coincidences to dismiss for how the "Black Heads" of Ubaid\Sumer could have refugees from the disintegrating Indus Valley civilization.

@dotdash8327 3 жыл бұрын

They are thought to have existed in parallel and developed independently but traded worth each other (which is why harrapan coins were found in Mesopotamia.)

@ramazanyalcn3660 3 жыл бұрын

Sumerians + Inca + Maya + Aztecs + Turks are the same European culture and people, Native Americans (Inca-Maya-Aztecs) and He cannot accept that the Sumerians are Turks. Even when tested on DNA, they cannot say they are Turkish. It is available in many words used in the Sumerian language. Many words are the same or very similar to each other. Sumerians + Inca + Maya + Aztecs + Turks are the same Their religious beliefs, cultures, languages are almost the same, hundreds of words prove that they are Turkish and emigrated from Central Asia.

@masoudzanjani505 3 жыл бұрын

@@ramazanyalcn3660 Will you share any source of the evidences please ?

@shermoore1693 Жыл бұрын

Does anyone know of other videos about Sumer, its origins, its language, customs and history?

@agayactornamedmichaeldougl6289 6 ай бұрын

Robert sepehr

@Red-Feather Жыл бұрын

Interesting. Q: why would Out of Africa take place? What would waves of people, as if orchestrated, set off to distant lands, not walking over each other, having family, old & young, travel thousands of miles into unknown, dangerous lands with seemingly no reason other than to enjoy a good long hike? The weather was unknown. Predators were unknown. Vegetation & diet totally different. Tribes of say 100 would set off. How many would make it through uncharted territories free of disease & medicines? We're missing an important chunk of the puzzle

@davexorus9836 2 жыл бұрын

Sumerian language sounds like georgian languages esspecialy( mingrelia so colchian). You can learn more things about it, would be interesting.

@toddmaek5436 2 жыл бұрын

Honest question, why does the beginnings of "civilization" always seem to stem from and or have to do with crops? What about different peoples from around the world who lived in climates/places where there was a natural abundance of food where there was need for planting anything? I mean if from a society of peoples who didnt need to plant anything and food just grew, would those peoples not be "civilized"?? Or am I misinterpreting something? Thanks

@cynthiamclaglen5687 2 жыл бұрын

If people settle somewhere and are able to grow many crops successfully. they will have more time to do other things like think out problems, create a city, and have time to work out problems. The Sumerians got away from a flood. They came from somewhere else. My guess is near the Black Sea. This area was flooded by a huge melt from the coldest places on earth. Cynthia Allen McLaglen

@brucetucker4847 2 жыл бұрын

Agriculture brings a more specialized and complex society - you need specialists to tell everyone when to plant, where to plant, what to plant, and what to do with the food they grow when they've harvested it. Where there was no need for agriculture, there was no need for a more specialized and complex society, so one didn't develop. People just went on living the way they always had. Alternately, the development of a specialized and complex society brought the need for agriculture. You can't have priests, bureaucrats, and merchants if the people who would be priests, bureaucrats, and merchants spend all their time looking for food - you only get priests, bureaucrats, and merchants if other people are feeding them, and the only way to create that much of a food surplus is agriculture. So the two - agriculture and specialized, complex society - develop in tandem because each creates the need for the other.

@jedague 4 ай бұрын

23,000 years ago there were farmers living beside the Sea of Galilee at the archeological site of Ohalo II. They harvested grain, ground grain into flour, they caught fish, waterfowl, and gazelles. Their culture was probably very similar to the African Pygmies of the Congo, who catch animals and fish with nets. This would have led to the domestication of livestock. At the same time, mammoth hunters were living in Siberia. They inherited genes, culture, and behavior from Eurasian Neanderthals who tended to be violent and cannibalistic. When the mammoth became extinct in Eurasia, the descendants of the mammoth hunters, Ancient Northern Eurasians began to invade farming societies. The farmers who fled from violence became shepherds and fishers. The violent invaders became warriors, gods, pagans, and slave owners. 7,000 years ago, people of Herxheim Germany were practicing ritual human sacrifice and cannibalism. This culture migrated out of Northwestern Europe into the Mediterranean. During the Bronze Age Collapse, when the Sea People and the Israelites campaigned against the Canaanites, this culture of dolmen construction, the symbol of the swastika (the “Mark of Cain”), paganism, human sacrifice, slavery, colonization, and warfare spread from Mesopotamia to Southern Asia, East Asia, Polynesian, and Mesoamerica. The Mesoamericans of Paracas Peru, those with the elongated skulls, migrated from the Persian Gulf during the Bronze Age Collapse. They have been found to carry maternal haplogroup U2e of Early European Farmers, the cannibals of Herxheim Germany, plus other haplogroups of Europe and Western Asia. Haplogroup U evolved in the Ancient Northern Eurasians of Sunghir Russia, with mammoth hunters that inherited genes, violence, and cannibalism from Neanderthals. Haplogroup U has been found to create a higher probability of psychosis. This psychosis led to World War II and the Holocaust. It led to the violence of Canaanite pagans, Iranian farmers, warfare in East Asia, and paganism, human sacrifice, slavery, and warfare in ancient Mesoamerica. Today, we’re still dealing with the effects of inherited traits of violence, with violent Russians, Iranians, Palestinians, people who have inherited genes of violence that lead to colonization, warefare, slavery, and human sacrifice wherever ancient pagans who used the symbol of the swastika (the “Mark of Cain”) migrated during antiquity. When you have a group of people who worship death, who survive by killing and taking, who have an obsession with lethal weapons and the color of fresh blood, people who are constantly unsatisfied with what they have and where they are, that leads to bigger problems than simply having enough to eat.

@jedague 4 ай бұрын

23,000 years ago there were farmers living beside the Sea of Galilee at the archeological site of Ohalo II. They harvested grain, ground grain into flour, they caught fish, waterfowl, and gazelles. Their culture was probably very similar to the African Pygmies of the Congo, who catch animals and fish with nets. This would have led to the domestication of livestock. At the same time, mammoth hunters were living in Siberia. They inherited genes, culture, and behavior from Eurasian Neanderthals who tended to be violent and cannibalistic. When the mammoth became extinct in Eurasia, the descendants of the mammoth hunters, Ancient Northern Eurasians began to invade farming societies. The farmers who fled from violence became shepherds and fishers. The violent invaders became warriors, gods, pagans, and slave owners. 7,000 years ago, people of Herxheim Germany were practicing ritual human sacrifice and cannibalism. This culture migrated out of Northwestern Europe into the Mediterranean. During the Bronze Age Collapse, when the Sea People and the Israelites campaigned against the Canaanites, this culture of dolmen construction, the symbol of the swastika (the “Mark of Cain”), paganism, human sacrifice, slavery, colonization, and warfare spread from Mesopotamia to Southern Asia, East Asia, Polynesian, and Mesoamerica. The Mesoamericans of Paracas Peru, those with the elongated skulls, migrated from the Persian Gulf during the Bronze Age Collapse. They have been found to carry maternal haplogroup U2e of Early European Farmers, the cannibals of Herxheim Germany, plus other haplogroups of Europe and Western Asia. Haplogroup U evolved in the Ancient Northern Eurasians of Sunghir Russia, with mammoth hunters that inherited genes, violence, and cannibalism from Neanderthals. Haplogroup U has been found to create a higher probability of psychosis. This psychosis led to World War II and the Holocaust. It led to the violence of Canaanite pagans, Iranian farmers, warfare in East Asia, and paganism, human sacrifice, slavery, and warfare in ancient Mesoamerica. Today, we’re still dealing with the effects of inherited traits of violence, with violent Russians, Iranians, Palestinians, people who have inherited genes of violence that lead to colonization, warefare, slavery, and human sacrifice wherever ancient pagans who used the symbol of the swastika (the “Mark of Cain”) migrated during antiquity. When you have a group of people who worship death, who survive by killing and taking, who have an obsession with lethal weapons and the color of fresh blood, people who are constantly unsatisfied with what they have and where they are, that leads to bigger problems than simply having enough to eat.

@jedague 4 ай бұрын

23,000 years ago there were farmers living beside the Sea of Galilee at the archeological site of Ohalo II. They harvested grain, ground grain into flour, they caught fish, waterfowl, and gazelles. Their culture was probably very similar to the African Pygmies of the Congo, who catch animals and fish with nets. This would have led to the domestication of livestock. At the same time, mammoth hunters were living in Siberia. They inherited genes, culture, and behavior from Eurasian Neanderthals who tended to be violent and cannibalistic. When the mammoth became extinct in Eurasia, the descendants of the mammoth hunters, Ancient Northern Eurasians began to invade farming societies. The farmers who fled from violence became shepherds and fishers. The violent invaders became warriors, gods, pagans, and slave owners. 7,000 years ago, people of Herxheim Germany were practicing ritual human sacrifice and cannibalism. This culture migrated out of Northwestern Europe into the Mediterranean. During the Bronze Age Collapse, when the Sea People and the Israelites campaigned against the Canaanites, this culture of dolmen construction, the symbol of the swastika (the “Mark of Cain”), paganism, human sacrifice, slavery, colonization, and warfare spread from Mesopotamia to Southern Asia, East Asia, Polynesian, and Mesoamerica. The Mesoamericans of Paracas Peru, those with the elongated skulls, migrated from the Persian Gulf during the Bronze Age Collapse. They have been found to carry maternal haplogroup U2e of Early European Farmers, the cannibals of Herxheim Germany, plus other haplogroups of Europe and Western Asia. Haplogroup U evolved in the Ancient Northern Eurasians of Sunghir Russia, with mammoth hunters that inherited genes, violence, and cannibalism from Neanderthals. Haplogroup U has been found to create a higher probability of psychosis. This psychosis led to World War II and the Holocaust. It led to the violence of Canaanite pagans, Iranian farmers, warfare in East Asia, and paganism, human sacrifice, slavery, and warfare in ancient Mesoamerica. Today, we’re still dealing with the effects of inherited traits of violence, with violent Russians, Iranians, Palestinians, people who have inherited genes of violence that lead to colonization, warefare, slavery, and human sacrifice wherever ancient pagans who used the symbol of the swastika (the “Mark of Cain”) migrated during antiquity. When you have a group of people who worship death, who survive by killing and taking, who have an obsession with lethal weapons and the color of fresh blood, people who are constantly unsatisfied with what they have and where they are, that leads to bigger problems than simply having enough to eat.

@mkdubose 4 ай бұрын

We all have the potential to see ourselves everywhere and in all time, because we are the ALL, i.e. I AM. Everything changes over time with each new discovery, as we dig deeper and deeper (with much more remaining hidden/undiscovered). What is the oldest or original is subject to change with each new discovery and based on its connection to a myriad cultures, peoples, regions, and religions. Ultimately, we are all connected. We are one, the good, the bad, and the ugly.

@user-vt9wd6fv4h Жыл бұрын

I liked this presentation. I think when speaking about the "first" you need to stay up to dated on the information. Göbeklitepe is now recognized as the oldest structures ever found. I think even just mentioning this would add to the discussion. The issue with Science, Archaeology and Anthropology are they create a narrative to justify their field of study instead of having an open mind to change the historic story of us.

@blackhawk7r221 Жыл бұрын

I believe that he may be speaking of entire civilizations rather than a regional structure complex.

@suckyourmums2952 3 жыл бұрын

the first georgian alphabet(asomtavruli) had ethno-cultural contacts with sumerian alphabet and the sumerian world.Also speaking of isolated language...The kartvelian language is the the closest isolated language to ancient mesopotamia(geographically speaking)and is surrounded by different language families.

@gilgameshomar 3 жыл бұрын

if Armenian then don't speak bullshit!. Armenian language didn't extend to even Northern Iraq.

@suckyourmums2952 3 жыл бұрын

rising-Axes im not talking about Armenian language idiot

@ramazanyalcn3660 3 жыл бұрын

Sumerians + Inca + Maya + Aztecs + Turks are the same European culture and people, Native Americans (Inca-Maya-Aztecs) and He cannot accept that the Sumerians are Turks. Even when tested on DNA, they cannot say they are Turkish. It is available in many words used in the Sumerian language. Many words are the same or very similar to each other. Sumerians + Inca + Maya + Aztecs + Turks are the same Their religious beliefs, cultures, languages are almost the same, hundreds of words prove that they are Turkish and emigrated from Central Asia.

@davexorus9836 2 жыл бұрын

You are right

@brucetucker4847 2 жыл бұрын

Closest _surviving_ isolated language. And that's a pure accident of history. There were many others that just haven't survived.

@mzeewatk846 2 жыл бұрын

Always excellent content. I knew Sumerian was an isolate, but I always assumed everyone else in the neighbourhood spoke variants of Semitic language family. I’d love to hear more about language isolates. : )

@hunszkita1 2 жыл бұрын

study the MAgyar LANGUAGE

@davefiers6184 Жыл бұрын

Well according to the internet we are not an isolated language and finno ugric but I personally don’t see it except the the mansi counting which is the same. Weird but true

@pripegalapobedonosni3324 Жыл бұрын

@@hunszkita1 hungarian as a member of the uralic languages is not a language isolate.

@hunszkita1 Жыл бұрын

Sumerian was,nt isolate in the his time ....but very suspisous that it was ,,magyar,, regarding geographical names like UR, URUK , EREK , KISH, KUTA , HIERO-SOLYMA / JERUSALEM / and stll there islands SAMOS, KARPATHOS, KRETA , KOS , POROS all those names make sence only in hungarian , and grammar also same

@nexrei 11 ай бұрын

One possibility is, is that, Sumerians thought differently from others, who are the rest of the world. Perhaps, they called themselves black headed, because they emphasized what of them is common to all. One possibility

@carlospenalver8721 Жыл бұрын

Shhooot can’t find my earlier post explaining how a word back during Gilgamesh era could be read forward or backwards and it still meant the same as in Gilgamesh Shema ( sort of prayers) and gilg is stated was a sort of Australian lizard but forgot to mention gilg glig is also related to the sound liquids make poured from a cup or GULP is a loose reference like gluging sound gulpgulpgulp glugluglug. ¿Know what I mean Vern?

@julesgosnell9791 3 жыл бұрын

Great content :-) - many thanks - a couple of things grated - "GeneAlogy" not "GeneOlogy" and "Lacuna" not "Lacunae" (unless you really want a plural - which you (pl.) didn't...)

@veliborb 3 жыл бұрын

Very interesting guest, informative and professional.

@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449 3 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

@theconnecteduniverse1video629 3 жыл бұрын

Hes not informative at all .. he just blablabla

@deewesthill1213 Жыл бұрын

@@theconnecteduniverse1video629 I hope this general discussion is just the beginning of further videos that will get into more specific details

@tedschuler6620 6 ай бұрын

In parts of New Guinea the difference from one valley to the next which causes the speakers throw up their hands and proclaim the their languages are profoundly different are sometimes actually 5 or 6 words

@kakaka1k 2 жыл бұрын

One thing I'd like to know is how do they know thats how they talked? i.e. the t-rex noise in Jurassic park is a perception of what we would think it would sound.

@brucetucker4847 2 жыл бұрын

Usually we can tell something by how the words were transcribed by speakers of other languages or borrowed into those other languages.

@infocus 3 жыл бұрын

Sumerian sounds "satanic"?? So, like Led Zeppelin, only backwards? ;)

@zhizhi9138 3 жыл бұрын

I suspect Sumerian are the sea people.

@mckernan603 3 жыл бұрын

@@zhizhi9138 Sea peoples were talked about by the Egyptians, they were Greeks also called the Philistines

@76rjackson 3 жыл бұрын

@@zhizhi9138 Sumerians were waaaaaay before the sea people

@zhizhi9138 3 жыл бұрын

@@76rjackson Do you think Sumerians were Sumerians for 100000 years. Who are ancestors? Through the history ethnic groups name changed. But who changed? Why?

@76rjackson 3 жыл бұрын

@@zhizhi9138The Sumerians were gone as a people by the time of the sea people. They had been conquered and absorbed. Before the rise of Sumer, scholars say that the people who became the Sumerians migrated into the area from somewhere else but no one knows for certain where they came from. If you look on the internet you can find people who claim that Sumerians are Turkish or Tamil, or that they came from another planet but nobody can really prove any of that. Their origin is lost but it's pretty clear that they migrated into the area from somewhere else because their culture is already advanced when it appears.

@ned8549 3 жыл бұрын

I think David Reich addressed this question in "Who we are...". Basically, ancient population from today's Iran migrated both east to India, where they replaced hunter-gatherers and became ancestors of today's Tamils; also west, where they settled and became Sumerians. That's the reason for vague similarity between Tamil languages and Sumerian.

@freandwhickquest 3 жыл бұрын

Iranian farmers actually couldn't totally replace indigenous ancient indians but mixed with them. Mixture of iranian farmers and ancient indian hunter gatherers formed the dravidians. Ancestors of Tamils somehow less mixed with iranian farmers. (Of course they mix to some extent) They still carry siginificant amount of hunter gatherer ancestry. At the onset of bronze age, indo european speaker groups came to india and mixed with dravidians to create modern indians. Since indo europeans came from the north, southernernmost indian groups carry slightly less amount of IE ancestry. It is said that original hunter gatherers of the indian subcontinent looked somehow between aus. aboriginals and andaman islanders in appereance.

@freandwhickquest Жыл бұрын

@@descendedofrigvedicclans2216 you are a non-inteligent hindu nationalist who is brainwashed by the hindutva ideology. You are also a science denier similar to creationists.

@tanyasingh5996 Жыл бұрын

@@freandwhickquest My ancestors are pandya kingdom people based in extreme south..we look different from adivasi people or hunter gatherer bloodgroup of O . our blood group mainly with blood group A and AB And we are culturally better than other social groups.

@prasantabagh432 5 ай бұрын

@@tanyasingh5996get lost randputni

@ellenosceola5707 10 ай бұрын

Peter Pringle does the epic of Gilgamesh and other Sumerian songs in Sumerian.

@johncritien1700 2 жыл бұрын

Justwatching this is interesting..Razibs hands somtimes blends into the foreground. And the space between his head and headphones bears no resemblance to the background. Strange grey and white stripes. Could be the camera and the light. Or maybe Razib comes from somewhere else😀

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