A breakdown of the sixteen documents of the Second Vatican Council (1963-1965). #VaticanII, #SecondVaticanCouncil, #Ecumenism
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@fotisvon99432 ай бұрын
Only 5 percent of the church stood against V2 during the council and they were very vocal. We see the same thing happening today where a few people stand against what the church is doing yet they are very vocal.
@billanderson16064 жыл бұрын
This is a good presentation.
@BibleAlivePresentations4 жыл бұрын
Bill Anderson Most kind sir thank you
@joeygallagher63052 жыл бұрын
How interesting that tradition in Greek has a very direct connection to something referred to in Revelation.
@BibleAlivePresentations2 жыл бұрын
Please elaborate
@lissajean4 жыл бұрын
I really don't see anything wrong with what you have described, it's a very positive recovery of the origin church in the beginning. The priests and church hierarchy shouldn't be driven by sin, but by holiness. NO Greed, no snobs , no hate. It should Never be a cause of suffering. Sounds Good to me!
@BibleAlivePresentations4 жыл бұрын
Yeah! How is that a problem?
@sem.joeyjeromeeraart3 жыл бұрын
Very informative thank you it helps a lot in my exams in theology thank you
@BibleAlivePresentations3 жыл бұрын
My pleasure! Always a blessing to serve those called to serve
@DennisG335 жыл бұрын
I don’t buy into his view on Ecumenism and some aspects on other aspects. I studied an MA level course on Vatican-II and I can tell you that becoming Catholic is entering into the Fullness of Christianity.
@BibleAlivePresentations5 жыл бұрын
Dennis G please be specific less your comments are thought of as straw men. Cue to 6:40. Triumphalism does not make for sound ecclesiology or ecumenism
@marcosgonzalez45252 ай бұрын
Read Sacrosanctum Concilium
@IHS333 Жыл бұрын
No doctrine defined at V2, the Council was only pastoral.
@el-sig22494 ай бұрын
Then why are some of the documents called "dogmatic constitution"? That's just one of the many contradictions in the documents 😏
@johnmphiri37464 жыл бұрын
I feel that the Vatican II documents have been somehow misunderstood by this presenter. These Protestants call Catholics idol worshipers, many of them preach salvation by faith alone and that once saved always saved meaning that sins cannot prevent one from going to heaven because salvation is based on the alien righteousness of Christ. How can the Spirit teach opposing doctrines in the same body of Christ? They do not believe in the sacrament of confession which means when they die they die in numerous mortal sins. The Catholic Church teaches that those who die in that state cannot get to heaven because according to Revelation nothing unclean shall enter heaven. Martin Luther himself said one can commit murder and adultery 1,000 times a day and cannot lose salvation. How can we be of the same body? He even condemned the book of James calling it an epistle of Straw. No. I do not buy what this presenter is saying. This is a total misrepresentation of what the Vatican II documents actually say.
@el-sig2249 Жыл бұрын
You're absolutely right. I've read the VII documents, and this guy is just continuing the lies of VII.
@vivacristorey43634 ай бұрын
Yes, this presentation seems to be a misinterpretation of the documents. Much of what he said was true, but without proper distinctions and detail could be taken as a contradiction to the faith. He claimed that VII changed fundamental understandings of Catholic thought. That cannot be the case as it would be a rupture.
@sherin52015 жыл бұрын
Protestant becoming Catholic is a shift in position within the church Is it into a higher position or an equal but different position?
@BibleAlivePresentations5 жыл бұрын
sherin raj excellent question. To be fair to the Council fathers they would have thought into a more fuller expression of all that is meant by “Church.” We could say fuller in terms of both the sacramental and institutional/hierarchical aspects in the Church, but the Holy Spirit and the moral aspect is available to all in Christ. We have only begun to taste what ecumenism is.
@DennisG335 жыл бұрын
It would be coming into the fullness of the Faith, since Jesus sends The Holy Spirit through The Sacraments, such as Confirmation and Anointing of the Sick, which is only Catholic/Orthodox. Read the CCC.
@BibleAlivePresentations5 жыл бұрын
@@DennisG33 CCC does not TRUMP the Sixteen Documents.
@DennisG335 жыл бұрын
Bible Alive Presentations This article IN DEPTH (so please read entirely) will show you what Vatican-II really teaches and what the Church as a whole really teaches: www.catholic.com/magazine/online-edition/is-there-really-no-salvation-outside-the-catholic-church
@el-sig22494 ай бұрын
VII radically redefined ecclesiology. They also lied when they said that we worship the same God with pagans. And what was so wrong with the rituals for the sacraments that they all had to be changed?! If it ain't broke don't fix it! Unless you want to change it's meaning, which amounts to a change in doctrine.
@fotisvon99432 ай бұрын
U dont trust the church
@timyurek90362 жыл бұрын
if the pagan religions are valid, why did the early martyrs have to die?
@elrune83304 жыл бұрын
hi class
@vivacristorey43634 ай бұрын
No offense, but this is not a true summary of how to interpret properly VII documents. You made it sound as though the Catholic Church sees Protestantism as equal to itself. And you did not make enough distinctions about what is meant by God speaking through other religions. You also claimed that the Catholic Church changed how it saw the Jews. That is bearing false witness, as the Catholic Church has never held the Jewish people to be solely responsible for Christ's death and has always taught that He died due to all of our sins.
@PhilipCunningham17884 жыл бұрын
Cardinal Suenens: “Vatican II is the French Revolution in the Church”
@BibleAlivePresentations4 жыл бұрын
O? Suenens wasn’t beheaded, was he?
@PhilipCunningham17884 жыл бұрын
@@BibleAlivePresentations Arh, no. He also said: “The Second Vatican Council marked the end of an epoch; and if we stand back from it a little more we see it marked the end of a series of epochs, the end of an age”
@marcosgonzalez45252 ай бұрын
Nowhere was the Latin Mass abrogated or the Gregorian and Latin in even the new Mass. This is a bastardization of the intention of the Council
@commscompany15024 жыл бұрын
Hear ye! You are not God. God will never allow Her Church to fail . Even any alleged error will be used by God. So stop the Pharisaic anger, trust in God and focus on your own sanctity
@catholicjosh86542 жыл бұрын
Vatican II is the great apostasy Saint Paul told us in 2 Thessalonians 2,
@BibleAlivePresentations2 жыл бұрын
Saint Paul wasn’t talking about anything 20 centuries of head of his time
@catholicjosh86542 жыл бұрын
@@BibleAlivePresentations of course Saint Paul is because Christ hasn’t returned yet he says before Christ returns they will be a great apostasy