SumoSprings Install on Alliance 5th Wheel. Did They Help?

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SumoSprings Install on Alliance 5th Wheel. Did They Help?

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We installed the SumoSprings Model TSS-107-47 on our Alliance 310RL. Did they help and are they worth it? Only one way to find out?
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@robertburns5145 7 ай бұрын

This is the second time watching this video after hearing of Grand Design owners being told that Sumosprings are responsible for frame failures in their units. Dustin from Wayward Waggs answered my question about Sumosprings on his Paradigm. He said they haven’t had any problems. After a year are you in favor of Sumosprings? They really look like they are a great investment.

@TheRoadSMITHS 7 ай бұрын

Sorry for just getting back to you now. We have not had any issues with ours either. The only challenge is that when you want to check torque on your U Bolt nuts I have to loosen the Sumosprings to get access. Not a big deal, once installed, making this adjustment is not that hard. On the GD owner, i do not know how a hard piece of rubber could bend a steel frame. So for us, it was worth the investment.

@frankperry1543 6 ай бұрын

"what i mean by 'partnership' is i gave them my credit card and they sent these..." I appreciate your honesty and humor. Subscribed

@TheRoadSMITHS 6 ай бұрын

Thanks....they really do well...and they still have not called. Haha.Thanks for watching and commenting.

@WaywardWaggs Жыл бұрын

Thanks for mentioning us. We hope your Sumo Springs give you a smoother ride. We love ours.

@TheRoadSMITHS Жыл бұрын

Thanks for doing your video...gave me the encouragement to finally install them.

@leapnlarry Жыл бұрын

We put them on just before our summer trip, it really just protection from breaking another spring. It keeps the springs from inverting on a really big bump. At the same time i replaced all my brakes, bearings and tires, it was a big job and my body took two weeks to recover, haha. Larry

@TheRoadSMITHS Жыл бұрын

I believe they really do help for that reason as well. wow....I give you credit for doing the work...my wallet would hurt...in fact it does....just put new shoes on the rig and the truck. Thanks for watching!

@JarheadAndGingersJourney Жыл бұрын

That’s something we need. Great share.

@TheRoadSMITHS Жыл бұрын

Thanks. It does seem to help.

@dacks14 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the helpful video

@TheRoadSMITHS Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching. Glad it was helpful!’

@e.b.6766 Жыл бұрын

I drive a 2016 Expedition EL. Pull a Apex Nano 194BHS. Not nearly as heavy as you 5th wheeler’s. I’ve got the power (Full Race Intercooler, throttle body spacer, and dyno tune); this gives me 603lbs/ft of torque at the rear wheels. What I don’t have is the suspension pickup’s have. At 3600lbs empty my suv squats a bit in the rear. Got a weight distributing hitch. Just need a little more. Install the Sumo Springs on the Expedition’s rear coils. Was afraid it would make the truck ride stiff. Fortunately, that was not the case. Still rides good. Actually, the suspension feels more solid when I punch the accelerator; doesn’t squat rearward as much. Have yet to pull the RV since the install. After watching this video it would seem a good idea to install the springs on the RV to compliment the truck install.

@TheRoadSMITHS Жыл бұрын

We had installed Timbrens on our F350 ( I dont think Sumo Springs had them for our model year when we purchased them in 2021. Made a huge difference in squat and lateral stability. The beauty of them is that they are passive, meaning that they only engage when placing load on the truck bed since they sit about an inch bellow the bump stock so when load is removed, the are not stiffening the rear. If tou do get the Sumo's pat attention to the mounting type over or under axle and the weight rating.. Thanks for watching and commenting.

@rvadventuresofdavidkarenlu3362 Жыл бұрын

We have had sumo springs for about 6 months. Got about 1000 miles on them. They do help for sure. Easy installation on our Montana.

@TheRoadSMITHS Жыл бұрын

So far so good. Added another 1000 miles since the video was made and it definitely helps. Still get some “bowling pins” in the cabinet. But they can’t solve really crummy roads. Thanks for watching.

@sreed3203 Жыл бұрын

Just got the sumo springs for our 340rl. Had to rewatch your video just to make sure I didn't have to read the directions. Look forward to seeing the difference . Thanks and keep the great videos coming.

@TheRoadSMITHS Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching. They are pretty straightforward to install. Just check for brake or hydraulic lines that might need to be re -homed.

@JasonAnderson-qe7ty Жыл бұрын

We added them to our Alliance 382RK. Also added to our 2023 GMC Denalli Dually. It' feels smongee at times and yet hard another times. I have watched alot of videos on both the setups for the truck and trailer. If I had to rate, I would give it a B-. They aren't air bags, it's cheaper, so you get what you pay for. Not sure if I had to redo which direction I would go.

@TheRoadSMITHS Жыл бұрын

I agree on the rating, although I guess neither is a scientific measurement. Haha. I know they have made a difference but not as much as an IS would do, but they cost 10X or 20X less. I put Timbrens ( same concept) on the Truck 2 years ago and I can see when we put the 5ver on the hitch it keeps us pretty much level. I like the fact that I don't have to air up/down with those.

@roland11354 Жыл бұрын

Did it raise the clearance height of your camper after installation?

@TheRoadSMITHS Жыл бұрын

Not that I noticed and if it did, it was negligible.Thanks for watching and commenting.

@lcampm2 Жыл бұрын

My electric wires come out of the chloroplast right where they go

@TheRoadSMITHS Жыл бұрын

Oh no that’s to bad. I had to cut away a little of that that to get them to make contact with the frame. Is there not a way to do that on yours?

@lcampm2 Жыл бұрын

@@TheRoadSMITHS I may try to. Great video!

@TheRoadSMITHS Жыл бұрын

@@lcampm2 Thanks...I hope it works for you!!

@rancancookcanoy9768 Жыл бұрын

Great video. Have been considering doing this to our Alliance. Thank you.

@TheRoadSMITHS Жыл бұрын

Thank you and thank you for watching! It’s made a great difference for us! I’ll be happy to answer any questions you may have if you install them! Good luck!

@DavidBowen Жыл бұрын

nice job on the install, I need these in my life. I'm in Utah up North but headed to Sand Hollow (St. George/Hurricane area) for the Trail Hero Rally tomorrow. Enjoy our beautiful State!

@TheRoadSMITHS Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching. They really do make a difference. We were suppose to stay in Hurricane to go to Zion. Instead Hurricane (Ian) came to us. Urghhh. We really enjoyed Moab was very cool and Bryce was spectacular.

@jimandcarole Жыл бұрын

We purchased them at the Alliance Rally in May but have yet to get them installed. I've made a run at it twice; however, the propane line is in the way, and it runs on the opposite side of the hydraulic line from yours and when trying to move the hydraulic line we couldn't get enough travel to move the propane line out of the way. I thought of trying to find where the propane line terminates and reroute it but haven't yet. We have an appointment to get MORryde IS installed in May of 2023 so we may just wait it out. Good video!

@TheRoadSMITHS Жыл бұрын

Thanks...You would think they would be more standard but they are not. If you are getting the IS then no need for these. I would love that just did not want to wait that long. Which Alliance do you have?

@jimandcarole Жыл бұрын

@@TheRoadSMITHS We have the Paradigm 390MP.

@tyersontheroad2607 Жыл бұрын

Just subscribed, nice and interesting video, thanks for sharing. I think I will look into to these for our 30RLS Avenue, a propane line may be an issue!

@TheRoadSMITHS Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and subscribing. The Sumo Springs definitely help. We left Tallahassee recently on the way to Panama City and we realized we forgot to latch/lock the refrig after about 15 miles of highway driving. We pulled into a rest area and were expecting the worst. When we opened the RV door, the refrig was still closed and a bag of groceries left on the counter was still sitting there. I did have to move a line to install but was not too bad.

@WestsontheMove Жыл бұрын

Great video Ken! We have the MORryde independent suspension but these springs seem to be a very affordable alternative. Maybe we’ll see you at the 2023 Florida RV Supershow in Tampa? We are in Ruskin, FL now. Hope to meet you guys soon. Pete

@TheRoadSMITHS Жыл бұрын

Thanks. We would love to have the Independent Suspension...but the wait was just so long. The Sumo Springs are an affordable option and they have made a difference. We will be at the Tampa Show and working the Alliance Booth on Wed Jan 18th from 3-5. so come on by. We have never been to this show before so we are not sure what to expect really.

@WestsontheMove Жыл бұрын

@@TheRoadSMITHS Yeah, we scheduled the independent suspension well before we even got our Grand Design Momentum 395ms-r and we were fortunate to be able to get it done in October. So, I guess we will be looking for you at the Alliance booth. This show is a first for us as well. We get the opportunity to meet the "RV Unplugged" group even though we have met "Today is Someday/You, Me and the RV" and of course our mutual friends, "Our Everyday Getaway". See you there!

@TheRoadSMITHS Жыл бұрын

@@WestsontheMove Awesome. See you there! Chris and Katina are about 30 miles from us right now...going to try and get together while we are here in the Florida Panhandle.

@bishopgeorge1333 Жыл бұрын

Awesome, I have the front Sumo Springs to install on my MH, I only have the front and will get the ones for the rear sometime soon, since I don't have the MH now I'm not in a hurry thank you for the video I have heard nothing but good things with the Sumo Springs.

@TheRoadSMITHS Жыл бұрын

They really have made a noticeable difference in our fifth wheel, reasonably priced and passive versus airbags. Thanks for watching.

@N2it4Now Жыл бұрын

Nice job. This is on my list. Let us know if you put them on your truck too. Thanks

@TheRoadSMITHS Жыл бұрын

I added Timbrens in early 2021( same concept) not sure Sumo had these available for a 1 ton Super Duty In early 2021. But I will say emphatically the Timbrens helped with Squat and lateral stability on the truck.

@kevinhill9532 Жыл бұрын

We love your channel we have the same 310RL and looking at adding these. Are you still happy with them? We had them on our 2500HD and looking to put them on our 3500HD . Are you running them on your truck?

@TheRoadSMITHS Жыл бұрын

Hi Kevin...thanks for watching and the compliment. On the Sumo Springs, yes we are happy with them. They do seem to reduce the vibrations significantly in the 5ver. I installed Timbrens ( same concept) on our truck after the first couple of tows and they help as well with sag and lateral stability. I seem to remember that Sumo did not have these for our 2020 F350 at the time.