Is that the 4th Amp Dyno sold?

yess my taramps bass3k (also fullbridge board right? 💁) fan start making noise after 9 month. but a fan on taramps amp is easy to replace. just mound into the side of panel. doesn't same sfb line because fan on sfb is mounted to the circuit board lol same 40x20mm dc brushless fan, new fan also run quiet compare to factory fan. dunno why sfb fan is mounted to the circuit board like that 😑 actually my amp run super cool, doesn't get any warm. hope my taramps can last, don't want to spend much of money to my system

@@suthtokcraew1227 gotta pay to play. Powerus is what I would recommend

It's a common issue with these if you play them in a daily they burn up. The dyno test is two to three seconds and you can keep the heat under control

@@EvanField6380 the dyno test is 10 seconds of pure torture. Not 2 or 3 easy seconds.

If only they specced better caps this wouldn't be a problem. I would replace them with Rubycon Low ESR 105c caps, I've had good luck with them.

Bro don't listen to them negative remarks on KZfaq. Bro I have in operation as we speak 1 Sfb-600 on 4 Sundown 6.5 minds because I just sent the Sfb-200.4 out for replacement. I didn't want to use any of my SounDigital Exo-X amplifiers because I over 5 SFB amplifiers on stand by. I have 1 SIA-3500 that's going on 4 E-series 10's, 1 SFB-1800.5 just sitting, 1 SFB-1000D sitting, 1 SFB-8000D on 4 X15's V2's which is Pounding HARD! Another SFB-100D in my wife suburban on a singles Skar 12 in sub. And if I had to buy another SFB amp I sure would. Them guys aren't hooking up their stuff right.

@@MrJoey478 I've ran everything from the SFB-1k to the SFB-8k when I was a sundown dealer/installer. NEVER HAD A SINGLE AMP ISSUE other than 1 or 2 user error caused blown amps due to improper signal and running it well under 11V under load on shit electrical. The SFB-8k on 6 SA12-s smashed its nuts off and was clean while doing it. I want to run sundown when I pull out my avatar 15's and my D4S JP8

@@BericBuilds Dude on Awestruck Audio hertz Was trying to convince people to watch out for these amps Glad sundown made this video, I’m happy with my SD 1800.5 , to run all my mids and highs , next to my Taramp smart 5 k on 2-12” skars Being installed this week 🤜🏽💯🤛🏽

@Joe so you've had no issues from your sfb8000 amp? What ohm are you running that amp at & how long have you been using your sfb8000? I'm just curious because I have a sfb5000 but I've yet to use it, it's still brand new in box. I've been kind of worried I might have poor experience from it as others claim to have had. I just find it fishy that Derick chose to torture test the sfb600 (an sfb amp that just so happens to not even be full bridge) rather than actually torture testing one of the actual sfb amps that so many loyal Sundown Audio customers have been having problems out of. I mean, he could have tested the sfb1500, 2000, 3000, 5000, 8000 etc... you get what I'm saying. Derick had he wanted to prove something, or restore bassheads faith in the sfb line he should have torture tested one of the various sfb amps that countless customers have had troubles with. I have not seen a single person as of yet say anything negative about the sfb600, let alone complaints of failure from the sfb600... Joe does it not seem fishy to you also, or you think I'm just way over thinking the situation?

@@MrJoey478 Why should anyone ignore negative remarks about a product? Do you only read the positive reviews on a product? The SFB full bridge line up is a hit or miss good product and that's a fact. You can't just ignore all the negative reviews out there, plenty of reputable people have had problems and of course you have so called installers that have never had any problems except user error. I rarely see negative reviews on Sundown Audio products so when they are many like in the SFB line people don't just ignore them. It had gotten bad enough that they replaced the full bride line up with SIA and even JP made a comment that they are "made tougher".

Yes please

Agreed!!!

@513EM1 which sfb did you purchase? You order it from D4S. I have a sfb5000.

@@itdoesntmatterwhatyourname6128 sfb600 just doing a small build in my girlfriends car. Yeah d4s

Well not many people have a amp Dyno and not many people can afford a $15,000 dollar battery bank either.

@@BenaresDarkness I wasnt talking about equipment, I was taking about method ...ie: pushing an amp past its limits in order to try and blow it to see what it actually takes, which you don’t need anywhere near huge sums of cash for.

Shame you literally can't buy orion anywhere, especially not online which is stupid, literally everyone else you can, not orion...

@@bobking7347 ya, MD Audio dropped the ball, and Covid didn’t help :/ but with the direction they were heading on certain aspects of the Orion name I’m honestly glad Sound Pros picked Orion up, hopefully they do the brand Justice, Orion isn’t a budget name …

@@Tekjive yeah dude I agree with you, I hope they bring back the hcca amplifiers and those really awesome looking black xtr amplifiers again, md had the right idea with those newly updated amplifiers but, distribution is what ruined it.... I just hope they bring them back the same way but actually make it so people can buy their gear....

I made the mistake a few years ago of asking how they run long term and was called stupid for doing so. Obviously the limited size means limited heat dissipation.

@@MoparStephen I know two people one had the sfb on a pair of 10s and the other had a four channel on mids and highs and both didn't last a month and they were installed correctly.

@BEATING NCP93 how long you been running them. Just curious, I have a sfb5000.

@Mopar Stephen Taramps are similarly limited in size like the sfb amps and Taramps do not have heat issues. I have a Smart3 & md8000.1, no heat issues period. My Taramps have never been hot, they get warm when playing an hour to hour and a half but never gotten hot, knock on wood. I don't want bad juju. I also have a sfb5000. Btw I fully understand and agree with you asking the question of how an amp will run long term, that is very important. I've seen many amps able to run properly when ran hard for only around a 10 or 15 minute duration BUT then ask that same amp to run hard for 45 minutes or longer is just asking for problems as they'll get so hot they start to melt the jackets on the power wire & melt the plastic on power/ground/remote output terminals. Seen many cheap Chinese half bridge with this issue. Though I'm also aware that improper electrical power can cause these issues about faster than anything else. The Chinese RP Series Skar amps seem to very sensitive when not given right at or in excess of the current they truly need. For example run a Skar RP2000.1D on a slightly weak electrical system and that amp will fry eggs in 10 mins & live in protect mode. The RP amps, and for some reason the RP2K especially needs plenty of current. From what I've seen the RP3500 & RP4500 aren't near as bad about heat/protect like the RP2K is & seems the smaller RP1200 & RP1500 do not give the issues as much neither. My bad I started rambling.

@BEATING NCP93 I mean I don't have personal experience with this amp. I run Brazilian and have for years and they've been super reliable. But for 600 watts rms what electrical do you need? Lmao

@Dustin Newell I have a sfb5000 still bnib, never been hooked up or used whatsoever. I'd be willing to sell it so long as I didn't lose out and take a beating. Thinking I could still come out on it & let it go for less than they are priced on websites for.

@@itdoesntmatterwhatyourname6128 put the word out and it'll go quick. I love hers.

Who is running @11volts

Right? U are either running a battery that can't start your car or a shit aux battery bank which most likely means u have big 3 and alt. How would I ever run at 11v

@@h8h81 lmao easy... stock charging and stock battery. Lmao. Tons of 11V users out there

@@BericBuilds not anymore 🔥🔥🔥

@@BericBuilds I thought I was doing bad dropping to 13.4 at idle 😭

This is not a full bridge amp. This video seems to be smoke and mirrors. You are not wrong.

He seems to be pushing the narrative that the SFB line isn't randomly burning up like many people have stories about. But I haven't heard any stories of the SFB 600d burning up. Could it be because it isn't like the bigger brothers of the line? He plainly said that the 600d is not a full bridge amp. Anyway, Sundown has 99 percent good product but in my experience the SFB line is in the 1 percent bad.

@ditto I wondered the same exact thing, curious as why Derick chose to test the only sfb which is NOT Full Bridge... Granted I wasn't aware the 600 was not full bridge until he said it. This has got me thinking that Derick & Sundown both are aware of the many issues people have had from the sfb amps, so they chose to do some cleanup & try to restore peoples confidence in their sfb line by doing this video. I'll continue to think something is fishy up until I see them put out a video of one of the larger sfb amps that actually is a full bridge! Considering I have not seen, nor heard any negative stories regarding the sfb600, only stories I've heard of sfb amps popping, blowing, failing, etc has been from the sfb1500 & larger... *ditto I will add that I am also an sfb owner, I have had a Sundown sfb5000 for around a year & a half. Which I would love to trade it for the Smart5. The Smart5 had not been released at the time when I bought my sfb amp. Had the Smart5 been out at time I purchased my sfb I 100% definitely would have bought the smart5 instead and I'm not just saying that because of the issues people are having but solely because of how much I LOVE my Taramps Smart3 amp! The Smart3 is a very good amp, imo its a tank, very tough.

@thomas hunter I hate to here that bro! Curious whether or not your sfb amps were still under warranty when they failed? Were you the original purchaser or did you buy them new/used from someone else? Were you able to get Sundown to fix or replace them under warranty? I know if be upset if one of my amps failed on me that quickly BUT two amps back to back failing on me immediately or almost immediately, never getting to truly use them would have me so angry at Sundown I don't think I could put into words how angry I would be in that situation. Only thing that would keep me from completely losing it, would be finding out Sundown Audio was willing to remedy the problem. I have a sfb5000 and just pray I never have a similar experience or premature failure from my amp. As I must admit that honestly I've been very fortunate when it comes to the amps I've owned since back when I was 16, so a good many years. First amp I ever owned, I bought when I was 16 and it was a big chrome Legacy amp, it would get hot but never tore up. Then had a mixture of Soundstream, Volfenhagen, Kicker, Pioneer, Rockford Fosgate & Alpine back when I was younger, teenage early 20s.

I have a psi platform 4 and it is beefed up to 3500rms psi doesn't have a good cooling system like sundown xv3 12s it heats up on any amplifier you put on it?

Yes SIR i run a p3 12" dvc2 sfb 600d @ 1ohm never a problem

@Killer32620 yes the Smart3 amps are lil beasts! I've had mine for a year and a half at 1 ohm and knock on wood I've had no issues. I replaced a skar RP2000.1D amp with my current Smart3, I must say my brazillian Taramps Smart3 is a million times better than the Chinese skar rp2k amp that I had. Btw I also have a Taramps md8000.1 amp and a Sundown sfb5000 amp. No complaints on any of them so far. Honestly I prefer Brazilian amps over Chinese amps but that's just from my personal experiences with both of the amps. I do hate to hear of your bad experience with your sfb, I've heard lots of people say similar things. I'm wanting to get the new Smart5 amp, have hoped I could find someone willing to trade their Smart5 amp for my Sundown sfb5000 & me give them some boot but way things have looked lately I'll probably never get that lucky lol. Probably just have to sell my sfb5000 and put that money towards a Smart5. Would really like to go with the Smart5 BASS but from what I've seen so far they do not do as well (as far as rms output goes) at lower voltages like 12.6 - low 13s where the regular Smart5 puts out more than it's rated at 12.6 and Smart5 BASS puts its rated or over around the 14.4 range. I haven't got lithium yet so I'll probably drop into the 13s when playing my music hard but that's just guessing from how my Smart3 does in my daily beater. I already have a 350 h/o alt & big 3 along with all wiring being ofc.

@killer32620 wow my bad for long comment, didn't realize it was that long, my bad.

@@itdoesntmatterwhatyourname6128 its all good sounds like you got a killer setup with that kinda power I had an rp 1500 that thing would run hot at 1ohm and shut off for some reason I like my smart 3 more tho except for the loud fans sometimes. As for lithium idk never tried that should be better. I just run a autozone batt under the hood and a xs power d3400 in the trunk. I've thought about lithium tho but idk dont you need a different charging system for that.

@@itdoesntmatterwhatyourname6128 I've been running Brazilian for years and years. I love them. Ive had JL amps up in smoke right after warranty. I've had alpine amps take shits. I've had Memphis amps take shits right out of warranty and take my subs with them. Seriously I've never had issues with sound digital (all I ran for the last 4-5 years) and now I bought a Taramps 3k HD for shits and Giggles and a year later that thing is still fucking knocking. Hasn't shut off or gone into protect once! Impressive as hell for $220

@@MLProductions.1 I've had a Taramps HD3k 1ohm for almost 2yrs running a pair of old school Audiobahn Flame Q 10s in dual 4ohm wired down to 1ohm and love it. Never had an issue with the amp in the 2yrs I've had it, also never had an issue with the subs in the 20yrs I've had them. I've been considering getting the smart 3k or a MD3k in the 4ohm version for those subs. @Barevids on KZfaq has some excellent videos on amps in general but he has a couple explaining why Taramps are better than many other Fullbridge amps. The biggest difference is in the protection circuits. Unlike many other amps a Taramps will send small burst of power to check and see if the amp is good before fully powering it.

Trying to run one is. Your a nice guy Eugene...

@Eugene maybe I misunderstood your comment but isn't the sfb meant to be ran a "stock Voltage"?? Stock voltage is typically 14- 14.5 Volts on most vehicles. Every vehicle I've owned since a teenager had a "stock voltage" of 14 plus volts. I have a Crown Vic with 350 amp alt and it runs 14.4 - 14.6 volts.

@@itdoesntmatterwhatyourname6128 I'm pretty sure it's safe to say he meant stock electrical, like 1 batt stock alt type situation. For this amp you need 2 runs and 2 batts "at least" and an upgraded alt or it's going to eventually drain it under 11v and these "full range" amps stop making power... Korean boards will smack until they go under 9v then the factory smoke comes out the amp.

Sounds good to me

9 cubes, at 30 hz. You could use more port area and keep it at 30 hz, I’d shoot for 115+ at 30 hz and 9 cubes net. The xv3 subs are pretty sweet subs. You should have a pretty nice bandwidth, like 24-50 hz ish in a regular no wall ported box.

You’re gonna want around 120sqin of port

There's so much wrong here I'm not sure where to begin. The dewalt batteries are lithium so the ah doesn't translate the same as a lead acid car battery. 15ah of lithium is plenty for a 600w amplifier.

It's a FULL RANGE FULL BRIDGE just like the taramps MD or HD series, NOT comparing quality, just using the taramps as something to compare it to that most people will know. I'm not sure why he said that, mistake, or design change in the works or something else idk, but SFB are full bridge, whether they're full range or not has no bearing on the amplifier type just on the frequencies it produces

Yep

It is not a full bridge amp. It is a class D.

@@ditto_75 it's a full bridge amplifier SFB literally stands for sundown full bridge

@@EvanField6380 It is not. He plainly says it is not in the video. Watch it again.

2 min and 55 seconds into the video. 2:55

Resistive is much harder on the amp then that would be, wired to .5 with rise it would be around 1 to 4ohm on music and it would run like that for months and never die.

Couldn’t be because the salt series are designed for low voltage. Just that stupid eh?

Dumb AF 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

EVERYONE RUNNING LITHIUM THESE DAYS!

@@KZfaqsucks.. Lithium doesn't need 16 volts unless you run 14 volt batteries and anybody with 14 volt lithium is not gonna have a cheap ass 600 watt amp.

What would the wattage output be with 2ohm loads on each channel? Would it be 300w each or 150w each?