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Sunroof Maintenance | Goss' Garage

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4 жыл бұрын

Pat gives us a few handy tips on how to make sure our sunroofs keep working well through the years.
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@ronlheureux7623
@ronlheureux7623 4 жыл бұрын
You know, Pat, I never seem to think about sunroof maintenance for some reason. I keep my car machine polished and shampooed. I do the other maintenance as well. I appreciate this strong reminder. Tomorrow, while I'm bored to tears sitting at home, avoiding the virus, I now have a plan. Thank you!
@davemiller7633
@davemiller7633 2 жыл бұрын
Avoiding the virus!
@Aaron-hd8ql
@Aaron-hd8ql Жыл бұрын
There is no virus just sheep following democratic commie propaganda.
@DavidCrites07
@DavidCrites07 5 ай бұрын
Machine polished huh
@OP941nine
@OP941nine 4 жыл бұрын
Still baffles me how low the subscribers are on this channel, I still think of Motorweek as a pioneer in the auto info industry and once a giant force not be reckoned with
@AnneBUZZTKO
@AnneBUZZTKO 4 жыл бұрын
Almost 300 thousand Subs
@swingbag12
@swingbag12 4 жыл бұрын
I agree. Watched these guys almost my entire life. I'm 47 now
@barsaf9989
@barsaf9989 4 жыл бұрын
I just watch it on tv. And sometimes watch the retro reviews on KZfaq
@ecymbura31
@ecymbura31 3 жыл бұрын
People would rather subscribe to boys putting on make up instead of actually learning something. It’s a shame
@drillsergeant623
@drillsergeant623 2 жыл бұрын
@@ecymbura31 🤣🤣🤣 true.
@sj7624
@sj7624 8 ай бұрын
Thanks Pat for everything! R.I.P
@wstreff
@wstreff 2 ай бұрын
He’s fixing cars in heaven now, and I’d like to think going down to hell to fix grave digger and some dragsters. What an absolute icon.
@user-xf5dj1up8g
@user-xf5dj1up8g 2 ай бұрын
@@wstreff oh my gosh, I JUST came across his page. He seems so knowledgeable, genuine, and gentle with his passion. I’m sorry you guys lost a great person to go to on here :(
@hpaek1891
@hpaek1891 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video but it would have really helped if you showed how to apply the silicone to the seals.
@martinschulz9381
@martinschulz9381 2 жыл бұрын
Right on. My wife and I just bought a vehicle with a sunroof. I always thought that they were maintenance free. learn something every day.
@99SVTBolt
@99SVTBolt Жыл бұрын
Anything that moves (metal to metal) will need lube.
@chrisfreemesser5707
@chrisfreemesser5707 4 жыл бұрын
I just watched a 1985-1986 Motorweek marathon where in one episode Pat did....sunroof maintenance. Info is amazingly similar 35 years later!
@hurley911
@hurley911 4 жыл бұрын
Chris Freemesser it’s good to see the Goss still at it see ya on the 12th
@hurley911
@hurley911 4 жыл бұрын
Chris Freemesser it’s good to see the Goss still at it see ya on the 12th
@13terapyn
@13terapyn 4 ай бұрын
3-in-One makes a dry lube for garage doors. Been using it for years on hinges, rollers, tracks, door and padlocks. Safe for use on or around rubber, Plastics and vinyls. It goes on dry so it will never collect or attract dust.
@QrazyQracker13
@QrazyQracker13 4 жыл бұрын
Very well presentation and straight to the point! 10/10
@ktt2062
@ktt2062 Жыл бұрын
I use weed trimmer (weed eater) line to run through the drains. It’s flexible, I always have it on hand, and can still used on the trimmer.
@user-xf5dj1up8g
@user-xf5dj1up8g 2 ай бұрын
So smart, thanks!
@TommyG11814
@TommyG11814 2 жыл бұрын
Pat always had the best advice.
@PistolLife
@PistolLife 4 күн бұрын
I was told by my service advisor the best way to ensure that your technicians kids go through college is to keep opening and closing your panoramic sunroof
@burningmanmike
@burningmanmike 2 жыл бұрын
I use a 24" piece of weedwacker line, stick it in the hole, and twist it a few times in each direction, then run a little water thru it as a test.
@garymillerlcs
@garymillerlcs Ай бұрын
Great video. Concisely and well explained. Many thanks.
@frankkuijper6168
@frankkuijper6168 6 ай бұрын
Very clever tip to use canned air (low pressure) to help clean out the drains. Thank you.
@gsxellence
@gsxellence 3 ай бұрын
Miss you Pat 😢
@wstreff
@wstreff 2 ай бұрын
Legend
@NateMiranda95
@NateMiranda95 Жыл бұрын
I have a 14 Kia optima ex and I tried your dry lube recommendation and it made my sunroof worse than it was. Going to try white lithium grease to see if it saves me a lot of money from taking it to the dealer
@NateMiranda95
@NateMiranda95 Жыл бұрын
Update. Blaster White lithium grease saved my sunroof! DO NOT use dry lube it will NOT work!!
@user-xf5dj1up8g
@user-xf5dj1up8g 2 ай бұрын
How’d it work out after you tried lithium grease?? I just stumbled upon this video because I’m trying to clean my 14 Kia optima sxl LOL
@NateMiranda95
@NateMiranda95 2 ай бұрын
@@user-xf5dj1up8g It ran perfectly after! Just make sure you clean it thoroughly before and remove any particles that can cause blockage in the tracks. Apply a light but generous amount to the inside of the tracks kinda like this video. Test it and see where the most points of contacts are and wipe down any excess.
@JB83_AK
@JB83_AK 5 ай бұрын
Was just charged $250 at the dealership to "clean out debris and grease the track" on my Sunroof after it became impossible to close. 😵
@marekw.9816
@marekw.9816 4 жыл бұрын
I found the drain tubes on my old Explorer were both disconnected and the headliner would get wet whenever it rained. Most likely a previous owner had been too rough in trying to clean the drains.
@sport8133
@sport8133 3 жыл бұрын
Concise video with good tips and background information on what NOT to do and why. Well done, sir. My mechanic charged me $45 to put grease up there. I paid the bill and never went back to him again. You can screw me once....
@THEpwaylistMAN
@THEpwaylistMAN 2 жыл бұрын
So don’t use grease??
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket 14 күн бұрын
You paid minimal for the lubricant, and the rest was labor. Paying shop labor for a mechanic's time is not "screwing". If you can do it yourself, do it yourself. Don't expect someone else to do it for $5 an hour. Some brands sell a specific grease for lubricating the mechanism. Use that. I currently own a VW hatchback. VW has a specific grease to use for sunroofs. By all reviews, people say it's superior stuff, and do NOT use a chassis/axle/bearing grease. Just like oils, grease products have a massive range of formulations.
@phillipbeharall6271
@phillipbeharall6271 Жыл бұрын
Excellent thank you from the UK 👏👏👏👏 I've liked and subscribed
@theMatrixEndsHere
@theMatrixEndsHere 3 жыл бұрын
Man lots of sunroof haters. I likes them!
@gusbenson1083
@gusbenson1083 2 жыл бұрын
I have a panoramic sunroof on my 2018 Jeep Cherokee limited and love it.. I don't think I would ever fight another vehicle without a sunroof or panoramic. Like he said 15 minutes of maintenance goes a long ways the sunroof haters are the ones that are lazy and don't want to take them to do anything God forbid you have to clean the piece of glass
@user-pv9ev3nu6s
@user-pv9ev3nu6s 7 ай бұрын
I have a 2019 VW with a leaking sunroof. This is about cleaning glass. This is a design flaw. The drain tubes are either angled wrong or pinched.
@brianh9807
@brianh9807 4 жыл бұрын
Our 2018 VW Tiguan was bought back due to it leaking and causing mold so strong in smell you couldn't even drive the car.
@erikmacedo3723
@erikmacedo3723 4 жыл бұрын
White vinegar
@peterrudy9207
@peterrudy9207 2 жыл бұрын
2:47 I would after cleaning the rubber , spray it with 303 Protectant and let in soak in for hours , then to wipe up excess with a microfiber towel .
@matthewcandler4179
@matthewcandler4179 Жыл бұрын
This was super informative and helpful. Very well done.
@specialk7663
@specialk7663 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for this helpful information 👍
@jeremy6384
@jeremy6384 9 ай бұрын
Excellent quality, thanks!
@jillhbaudhaan
@jillhbaudhaan 2 жыл бұрын
Any extra advice for car owners without a garage or carport who live in states like Florida?
@landyachtfan79
@landyachtfan79 4 жыл бұрын
PLEASE stay safe, Pat!!!!!!!!!
@landyachtfan79
@landyachtfan79 4 жыл бұрын
Coronavirus, @Nemo Nemo. I'm telling him to stay safe.
@pussyjuice757
@pussyjuice757 Жыл бұрын
Do I need to get my sunroof maintained if I always keep it closed? I never open mine.
@sonjakeesee6977
@sonjakeesee6977 14 күн бұрын
How do I properly clean my bodyguard on my sunroof? We recently came back from a trip and drove through North Dakota South Dakota, Nebraska Montana Eastern Washington which is all desert over there and the worst part was at night the bugs horrible especially North Dakota that was the worst I was able to get all the bugs off the front of my vehicle, I even built a special little bug for our next trip that I can put on the front of my vehicle into my radiator area but the problem I’m running into is my sunroof bodyguard. I don’t know how to get the bugs off of that sucker.
@reviewking9709
@reviewking9709 3 ай бұрын
I use 130psi to clean the drain tubes
@forresg500
@forresg500 3 жыл бұрын
Do you just spray silicone spray on sunroof moving parts? I have kia sportage 2019 With panoramic roof
@kdwqrx
@kdwqrx Жыл бұрын
from what I understand, you spray silicone on the rubber seals to keep them in good condition. the moving part should be sprayed with dry lube, as stated in the video.
@SilverShamrock71
@SilverShamrock71 3 жыл бұрын
great vid, thanks for uploading, the vw pano roof leak, root cause and fix in 3 and a half mins, WOW!!
@jeffreymcgirt6931
@jeffreymcgirt6931 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone have problems with the sunroof opening on its own....suspect electrical connection issue???
@robertheaney1858
@robertheaney1858 4 жыл бұрын
thks PAT------great info on sunroof's
@Brazylizsek
@Brazylizsek 2 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to warn you, that you should first read what does manufacturer of your car recommend. For example the silicon based lubricant is not recommended for the purpose of lube sunroofs of VAG group cars. They use synthetic lube developed for NASA called Krytox (for seals) and lithium lube (for rails).
@YafavoriteDOMII
@YafavoriteDOMII Жыл бұрын
My 2021 Camry xse moonroof is working anymore it was just working for me the left side is not moving but the right side is
@haroldyoung5226
@haroldyoung5226 4 ай бұрын
I have 2013 Regal sunroof never opened . Bought new never opened sunroof .Should I service it ?
@danjakubiak6169
@danjakubiak6169 2 жыл бұрын
Well done!! Thank you.
@thejakeakar
@thejakeakar 2 жыл бұрын
thank you sir great tips and advices ,,..,subbed immediately...
@kingeleven3820
@kingeleven3820 2 ай бұрын
Dialectric grease is not a great idea to use?
@theknittingpaige
@theknittingpaige Жыл бұрын
My sunroof will close all steps except the final step where it lowers. Any tips on how to address that issue?
@theKevronHarris
@theKevronHarris 4 жыл бұрын
I don't like sunroofs because they will leak and possibly shatter. My mother's 2004 explorer had a sunroof and leaked on the front passenger floor. She acknowledged me that her next will NOT have a sunroof. My mother's 2017 Edge don't have a sunroof.
@kyron2092
@kyron2092 4 жыл бұрын
Lol probably because it's a Ford
@theKevronHarris
@theKevronHarris 4 жыл бұрын
@@kyron2092 😂😂😂😂 Her 2017 Edge is a titanium model with option group 300A (base titanium) which don't include panoramic roof. It's a former rental vehicle.
@milosbgd
@milosbgd 8 ай бұрын
Is it good to put PTFE spray on all hinges and sliding parts or what can you recommend? Thanks
@phukka_feelings
@phukka_feelings Жыл бұрын
good advice. thx
@ih8suvz
@ih8suvz 11 ай бұрын
I need to do this for my sunroof. Thing is squeaking like crazy.
@matedu4508
@matedu4508 2 жыл бұрын
Hi. I would like to know how to recalibrate a panorama from an audi q5. After I disassembled it to replace the curtain, it does not close properly, and remains partially open. I would like to know if and how it is done with vcds .Thanks
@dannyherrera2005
@dannyherrera2005 6 ай бұрын
Where are the tubes on this specific car
@jeremy6384
@jeremy6384 9 ай бұрын
How should I maintenance the gasket to keep it in good shape?
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket 14 күн бұрын
Clean it with soap and water. Clean the mating surfaces with soap and water. Apply silicone lubricant to the gasket. Avoid petrol chemical solvents as this will degrade the rubber. If you garage park it in a secure location, keep the roof open for a day or so every now and then, to allow the seal to expand and relax instead of stay compressed all the time.
@jeremy6384
@jeremy6384 14 күн бұрын
@@exothermal.sprocket thank you so much! A new gasket is about $160 ish
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket 14 күн бұрын
@@jeremy6384 No problem!
@6atlantis
@6atlantis 3 жыл бұрын
Can I use white lithium(cream texture/in tube not can).
@crazyprayingmantis5596
@crazyprayingmantis5596 3 жыл бұрын
Use either graphite spray or Teflon spray.
@josefernandez2722
@josefernandez2722 2 жыл бұрын
I have a leak in my trunk. Can it be coming from a clogged sunroof?
@theluxlyfe
@theluxlyfe 2 жыл бұрын
This is dope!
@anthonyferrara2222
@anthonyferrara2222 4 жыл бұрын
Is it ok to always use the auto stop/start feature on the car? I feel the constant starting puts a strain on the starter motor and the battery. I would appreciate your feelings on this. Thank you.
@Ricardo_C
@Ricardo_C 4 жыл бұрын
Disable it if you can. Wears out the starter and battery , even if they say it doesn't.
@langer24106
@langer24106 4 жыл бұрын
Supposedly these vehicles have different starters that can handle the increased usage.
@TBird100636
@TBird100636 4 жыл бұрын
The starter motor is upgraded for longer life due to the repeated starts. I work at an FCA dealer and only seen one ever go. The batteries on Stop/Start cars are AGM deep cycle type, and in some vehicles they have two batteries, a regular sized one and a small motorcycle sized one. Battery life in these applications vary, but seem to have a shorter life.3-4 years and they need a new battery(s). The newest thing we have is E-Torque, which is a Stop/Start system which uses a 48 Volt Belt Starter Generator, and a 48 Volt Battery pack. The vehicle is still otherwise a 12 Volt based system, with an AGM 12 Volt Battery and conventional starter which is used for initial starting of the vehicle. For Stop/Start restarts, the 48 Volt BSG is used. The 12 Volt battery is charged through a power invertor in the 48 Volt battery pack.
@jacobg.witmer
@jacobg.witmer 4 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one here who doesn’t even use the sunroof in my car? My Dad doesn’t even have a sunroof in his Dodge Journey! He’s 6 ft 6 and the moving parts for the sunroof take up precious headroom.
@user-pv9ev3nu6s
@user-pv9ev3nu6s 7 ай бұрын
The drains can get clogged even if you rarely open it.
@ramikhalid5249
@ramikhalid5249 3 жыл бұрын
The panoramic sunroof of my Tucson 2020 squeaks whenever I hit a bump what should I do in this case? Regards!
@MorneyxCpt
@MorneyxCpt 3 жыл бұрын
Common problem through all there year models
@oleandresen6726
@oleandresen6726 4 жыл бұрын
I have a problem with my sunroof / panoramic roof, on my KIA Ceed running very slow when trying to close the roof, it sounds like the electric motor is working hard, and in a few cases it has stopped during closing and driven back into open position . I have lubricated guide rails but I think it can instead be due to dirt by electric motor, gear, belt, is there any way to clean and lubricate these parts?
@ALEX-xz3ek
@ALEX-xz3ek Жыл бұрын
did you ever find a fix to this, mines do the same.. they start closing real slow or opening real slow and sometimes they struggle to open
@rizzlerazzleuno4733
@rizzlerazzleuno4733 4 жыл бұрын
Sunroofs are just another silly phase (fad) that the auto industry is using for additional profit. If you want one because you use it, fine. But I suspect most folks never open it but maybe open the shade. The problem is that as soon as you want one of the trim levels beyond basic you get a sunroof whether you want it or not. I deliberately ordered an S model VW Sportwagen so I would not have a panoramic sunroof (that is prone to leaking.)
@jamesortmann6587
@jamesortmann6587 4 жыл бұрын
I missed having one so much, I’m so glad to have one again
@CallMeJeff
@CallMeJeff 4 жыл бұрын
Is having a sunroof car bad
@theKevronHarris
@theKevronHarris 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. IDC for sunroofs because they are prone to leak if you don't take great care of them. Plus, they take up lots of headroom.
@JoeLSoL
@JoeLSoL 2 жыл бұрын
I had a sunroof in my 2012 Toyota Prius and it would annoy me when my friend would get in the car and open it while the sun ☀️ beams down on your head uncomfortably. Then it’s too bright to see on the road.
@michaelmassino6344
@michaelmassino6344 2 жыл бұрын
Sunglasses
@shakeembanks8261
@shakeembanks8261 2 жыл бұрын
What’s the safest way to cleaning the mesh from dead bugs?
@luism8612
@luism8612 2 жыл бұрын
Probably a detailing brush
@cesarflores8450
@cesarflores8450 2 жыл бұрын
Vacum & brush
@uscars9207
@uscars9207 4 жыл бұрын
Dude, don't hold the air and vacuum hose on a bare body (paint) - You can accidentally scratch it...
@hgoodman9
@hgoodman9 4 жыл бұрын
Good info
@Ricardo_C
@Ricardo_C 4 жыл бұрын
My panoramic sunroof on my F-150 has broken twice. I'll never get a sunroof again.
@zachg9065
@zachg9065 4 жыл бұрын
I worked at a ford dealer and saw this happen all the time. Its a massive job, the whole headliner has to come out and about 4 guys have to lift the sunroof out of the roof of the truck.
@drivedb7
@drivedb7 4 жыл бұрын
Ricardo Chavez - My Integra’s sunroof still works fine and it’s 22-years-old.
@Mamo878
@Mamo878 4 жыл бұрын
Panoramic sunroofs (moonroofs) are different than just a 'normal' moonroof, which tend to be more reliable than pano roofs.
@zachf355
@zachf355 4 жыл бұрын
Thats just ford...... fix or repair daily
@piratex4498
@piratex4498 4 жыл бұрын
Actually your response should be, I will never buy a FORD again. I have owned many Japanese cars with sunroofs, mazdas and hondas never ever had an issue. Quit buying American crap, you won't have crappy issues.
@bignuts45
@bignuts45 4 жыл бұрын
Could you gun oil to lube the rails?
@coletrick8748
@coletrick8748 4 жыл бұрын
Ray Cook .. Yes it would work great.
@piratex4498
@piratex4498 4 жыл бұрын
Why on earth would you put anal lube on a car?? LOL Why not just use Boy Butter..LOL
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket 14 күн бұрын
Manufacturers sometimes sell a formulated grease specific for sunroof mechanism. Use that. Do NOT use chassis/axle/bearing grease. Like oils, there are dozens of grease formulations for various applications.
@howtobebasic2122
@howtobebasic2122 4 жыл бұрын
my car has no sunroof
@jamesortmann6587
@jamesortmann6587 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome comment
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket 14 күн бұрын
Does your refrigerator have an ice maker?
@volpswagen_marco
@volpswagen_marco 4 жыл бұрын
It’s not by coincidence that a VW is being used for demonstrating sunroof maintenance in this video. Except that a Gen 7 Jetta doesn’t use drain tubes to evacuate water. A vehicle with a panoramic sunroof should have been featured. Panoramic sunroofs are notorious for water leaks. Just ask any VW technician what he/she thinks about panoramic sunroofs, especially here in the north.
@daneav8
@daneav8 Жыл бұрын
What kind of drains does a panoramic sunroof use? Im asking because it looks like my front drains (in corners of sunroof) drain into a gutter-type slot above the windshield and simply drain down the outsides of the windshield (the gutter-type slot is covered in a rubber gasket). At least that is what it looks like to me
@toronado455
@toronado455 4 жыл бұрын
awesome!
@georgeboros263
@georgeboros263 4 жыл бұрын
Have never understood why anyone wants a sunroof. Sounds glamorous but in reality they leak and the only time you want to use them is when it's nice outside but then the sun beats down on you uncomfortably.
@toronado455
@toronado455 4 жыл бұрын
I agree. Especially after watching this. I do not want to have to deal with all the maintenance and upkeep. Also they reduce headroom. Certain option packages and trim levels FORCE you to have a sunroof, and so a lot of people who don't want sunroofs are stuck getting them.
@Mamo878
@Mamo878 4 жыл бұрын
Moonroofs are more common than sunroofs. It can be nice to let more light in with a closed moonroof. Plus, the tilt feature can be handy for venting.
@inomad
@inomad 4 жыл бұрын
In my past 3 leased daily drivers. I have not once opened my sunroof.
@daveinstlouis
@daveinstlouis 4 жыл бұрын
If it's a factory installed power sunroof it will have a sliding shade to keep the sun off the car's occupants.
@barsaf9989
@barsaf9989 4 жыл бұрын
Knock on wood, but I've had a few cars with a sunroof and have never had any issues. They also come with a sliding shade that keeps the heat out.
@xadam2dudex
@xadam2dudex 4 жыл бұрын
Solution to problems with sunroofs is to not get one
@lifesucks3835
@lifesucks3835 4 жыл бұрын
I will not buy a car without one
@jacobg.witmer
@jacobg.witmer 4 жыл бұрын
xadam2dudex My dad doesn’t have a sunroof in his Dodge Journey! He’s 6 ft 6 and the mechanical part for the sunroof take up precious headroom, so he prefers no sunroof.
@xadam2dudex
@xadam2dudex 4 жыл бұрын
@@jacobg.witmer yep they do reduce headroom on some car it can be detrimental
@jacobg.witmer
@jacobg.witmer 4 жыл бұрын
xadam2dudex I don’t mind having one. I just flat out not use it most of the time. When I do use it, it’s a chimney when the AC isn’t working! My Kia Sportage has one! Also my Kia: It has a cassette player I still use these days in 2020! Lol 😂
@piratex4498
@piratex4498 4 жыл бұрын
......From an american car company..correct.
@car-lo
@car-lo 4 жыл бұрын
My comment is Goss wears a mechanic uniform like he’s going to work to build & fix a car. His hands never seen grease in decades.
@xadam2dudex
@xadam2dudex 4 жыл бұрын
I believe he washes his hands before these segments but he mostly manages his garage now days I think .. Most quality shops have their mechanics wearing gloves to protect them from cancer caused by the oil and other chemicals under the hood
@jamesortmann6587
@jamesortmann6587 4 жыл бұрын
Oil kills
@tundrav8georgia
@tundrav8georgia 5 ай бұрын
Rip
@Clearanceman2
@Clearanceman2 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely don't want a sunroof. The idea of a sunroof is way better than the reality of a sunroof.
@asterixky
@asterixky 4 жыл бұрын
Sunroof?? What's for??Just open the windows.
@jamesortmann6587
@jamesortmann6587 4 жыл бұрын
And hear your music and smell your cigarette? No thanks dirt ball
@miguelircontar
@miguelircontar 4 жыл бұрын
Less work I have to do because I don’t have one on my 19 Altima SR
@guitarplayergeek
@guitarplayergeek 4 жыл бұрын
Not even a 2020? Stop bragging about an Altima, lol.
@bigsugar577
@bigsugar577 2 жыл бұрын
Didn't say ANYTHING about how to access the tracks. No more info than talking with service writer.
@nosuchluck9477
@nosuchluck9477 4 жыл бұрын
These troughs become clogged with leaves and debris and. Zzzzzz.
@starless8394
@starless8394 3 жыл бұрын
sunroof is the dumbest invention ever , if you want a "spacious feel" go ride a bike, if you want to see the sky, step out of the car, more problems than benefits
@theKevronHarris
@theKevronHarris 3 жыл бұрын
I agree.
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket 14 күн бұрын
Better yet, ride a motorcycle.
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