Thanks for your opinions, they have been very helpful. The butt dyno is all any of us really need. Great job.

Well done. I bought my Vortex before the other two were available or at least well known. I am in no way equiped to comment on the other two but I can say the following: The Vortex did exactly what I needed it to do. It got rid of the nasty traits of the stock unit and provided a healthy power boost. That along with its known reliabilty and simplicity make it my choice. When I ride, I want to enjoy the ride and not be fiddling around with extra controls. In fact, i stash my phone away and only get it out if needed. I would love to see dyno results from these three units. The same bike same exhaust setups would be of great interest. Thanks again for this great video.

Five months of anticipation waiting on my Vortex and in 44 minutes shot to hell. Great Video! You did a fantastic job explaining things in a way that we can all relate to.

Yellow, purple and green. About time some company produces one in red to match the bike (that's what she said). This review is worth it's weight in gold. Thanks a million. Really appreciate you taking the time to make such a thorough review.

Hyped! I don't even own the bike (yet) but waited for this video!

Great stuff here, really helpful Dig it, thanks!

Thanks for the info Doug. I put the AIM in mine last week. Nice to know it has the ability to adjust but Hey, I just want to ride!! So I just got one in set-up in race mode for $650 without the switches or adjustment knob. With the Yoshimura pipe, my bike rips now. Low end torque is much improved. Nice to have one less thing to fuss with and a Honda that is living up to its potential.😊

Nice, The GET is the ECU I havee and will be re-mapping it for the Honda when they come in. Nice job!

I just got my multi mode switch in for the AiM today, cant wait to toss it on, get healed, and give it a go. Thanks a ton for this great video!

I was waiting on this video for what felt like weeks and I am glad I didn’t buy an ecu before watching this, however immediately after watching the video I bought the get and have spent an ungodly amount of money. I feel a little better that other people are commenting on how good there get ecu is and hopefully it solves all my problems I am having with my bike. Good promotion by taco Moto co who gave these to you to test out and make a video because they just made a sale from me and I am sure other people as well will watch this and buy one!

Espectacularrrrrr graciass

Thanks for this review. Impressed with your presentation. I decided to order the Get from Taco Moto for my GasGas EX250F. I’m riding in the PA forest and it sounds like the Get is most suited to tight and slippery forest riding. I’ll report back after a few rides to add to the knowledge base.

Great video Sir! I ordered the AIM last week with the map switch. The switch was my selling point. Take care! -Brian

Now this is what I’m talking about great video

Great un-biased review! Im super happy with my AIM, my bike chugs along like a 2 stroke. Rode 120 miles last weekend out to and in Idaho City on the local enduro race trails. stalled maybe once or twice but that was purely my fault, its amazing how much more forgiving the bike is. I put it in first gear and idle up the trail at 5mph and it just goes, its mind-blowing. my only qualm now that I've ridden quite a bit, is that i feel like I've actually lost some bottom end power and i feel some surging in the throttle at low throttle. I know there is a software update that fixes this with the tps relearn procedure, i just don't want to ship my ecu to taco and not be able to ride 😂

Just put the AIM on. Now to decide if I want to replace it already with the GET! You’re Killen me Smalls!!

Thanks, your review made me Get!!!! off the fence on which ECU and where to buy

Just a FYI the GET does not need “Wifi Internet” to use the app on your phone. It creates a direct WiFi connection from phone to device

I'll have my SX1 in a matter of days. Sounds like it's in a league of its own! Can't wait to test it out.

Great Vid!! Ordered the GET from TacoM

Vortex standard map is the power 1 map, thats where you judge from, not starting with one of its alternate maps, and compare the others with their standard maps.

Great info on ECU's for the Honda CRF450.

Great video, long time get user but gonna try the AIM for my EX450F, will be using it for MX and High-Speed single track. Have the GET on my 22 500, 3rd one I have used in 2 and 4 strokes, this 22 is an amazing machine with this get and graves, it's like it's an electric bike torque-wise, just amazing. Will try this AIM from Mike (Taco) and see how it compares on my 450.

Thanks

Best review i saw till now. This bike also need a better lower first gear and a higher six gear then he can be a real unicorn. I love mine but cant invest the money to actually make it a unicorn

Great video .. loved watching it. Question: Im leaning more towards the GET ecu. I guess this comes with two maps, what are the maps it comes with .. Enduro?, racing?, etc.

Great video and info 👌🏻 Did you have the g2 throttle tamer on for the testing ?

26:10 When riding trails on my 450, I do tend to short-shift at 9k, instead of 10k... lol

That's horrible you had to wait 25 weeks to only cancel the Vortex ECU, nothing should take that long in our industry. I personally had trouble getting Vortex from one US supplier, but the other suppliers willing sent 5-10 at a time every few weeks when available. GET & AIM got a lot of traction this past year due to the supply crisis that Vortex is working through. I've sold several hundred Vortex units (YFZ,CRF,KTM) over the years and can count on one hand how many times we had to help out an end user. I sold less than 50 controllers combined from AIM/GET, and the support calls are through the roof. The bugs will eventually iron out on the two new units, and it may keep Vortex from another price hike. :) Who remembers when the Vortex ECU was 699+50$ for the map switch? Now they're 799 w/o map switch! Luckily, I stopped using the map switch after the new wore off, so I'd likely not buy another one for a future build. I simply don't cycle through maps once I get use to one. In any case, Vortex has proven to be very durable without question over the years in my experience. I know it's not the latest controller on the market, but it's still the greatest to date. I believe small dealer margins, supply chain issue, and price hikes are creating the perfect storm for AIM and Athena's GET ECU. I'd love to revisit this comment in two years to see how everything played out. I really like those cabinets in the background! I need a whole wall of them in white! haha

Thanks for posting this. Did you see any significant differences in fuel consumption? I have a vortex, and it's getting high 30s most of the time. Even with 3 gallons, it's limiting.

hello Doug amazing video queastion: do you have to reset you TPS-throttle position sensor.. after instaling any of those units? or just plug and goo? I have 2023 KTM 500 EXF-C thank you

Nice review! I just installed the Get ecu with full exhaust. I have a lot of decel popping did you notice this with the GET?

Great video! There was a small part during the butt dyno portion where you mentioned the Enduro mode with the GET having level 10 traction control being the best mode ever. Did it automatically have the traction control on? And this was prior to changing the exhaust out? I live near Phoenix and our terrain looks very similar. After watching your videos I am sure I want the Honda. Test road a Husq FE501s, it felt very skinny and light and unstable on the pavement. It got head shakes intermittently and I wasn't even going over rough roads or highway speeds. Have you experienced this?

Just installed the GET unit programmed by Slavens. Installed easily and normally makes the bike run great. It was 110f today and when the bike got hot running in deep sand it stalled out a lot more. I need to get my phone out and see about adding some fuel when it's really hot out.

B a g love the gear riding gear you have in your adventure video I'm like 270 hard to find good light duty stuff what brand if you don't mind is that look like grayish camouflage very nice thank you

Sounds like the AIm has lean spots, and surging.. So many have had big issues with the Green Gets. Sounds like you got lucky.

Thanks for making the video. I ride a 2018 Ktm 500 EXCF. If I want to keep as much of the stock excellent fuel milage for highway traveling and with a flip of a switch completely stop flameouts and have a great do it all power band for off road which ECU will do that?

So for the butt dyno and wheelies I know you say the AIM is the way to go, but you put the GET as having more power bottom end anyway. Is the AIM better due to the surge of power specifically or does it actually have some more grunt down low than the GET?

At the start of the test, how many miles were on the bike? Thanks for the comparison.

Regarding your GET WiFi take. I don't have a GET. But the way small wifi doo-dads usually work, is they broadcast their own network, that you connect your phone to. Then the phone app talks to the device. You don't need "a wifi;" it doesn't connect through your home wifi or Starbucks, etc.

The most informative hour ever! Now you have choices for the honda. And depending on you skill and wants you have a path. I wander why honda makes such a bad map in the first place? A premium bike that is not fully exposed to its potential at this price point is sad.

Hello Doug. Great comparison. I have a 2023 450RL that I would like to leave the exhaust system alone for now. I like to keep as quiet as possible when woods riding. So in saying that , would you still recommend your shootout winner for a mostly stock bike that can be lugged around in tight stuff and still perform well on flat out roads and highway ? Thanks for any info.

Great video. Helped me choose which ECU to buy for my flameout 450! But, please say “uh-crop’-of-itch”. Not “akra-poe-vick”. Made in Slovenia. Many Slovenian last names end in “vic”. Ivanovic, popovic, akrapovic. The vic is pronounced vitch. Thanks!!

Thanks, and love the butt-dyno graphic 🤡

if we are getting way more power and torque aren't we wearing the engine etc a lot more too> ?

I am building a 23 KTM EXC-F 500 Dual Sport and trying to figure out which Tuner to purchase. I expected the GET to win from all I have seen and read. You talked about GET almost figures out what you need. To be clear it DOES NOT dynamically change settings to adapt to what you need. Correct?! You have to change the map for different attributes???

I just bought your exact bike - a used 2022 CRF450RL. My heart sank as I watched some of your earlier videos about regrets and problems. Questions: 1. Did your new after market ECUs solve the jerking and stalling on single tracks? Do you still have regrets for off road after installing the non-factory ECU? 2. My bike came with 900 miles and a decent price, but it also came without a manual. I cannot find anywhere an explanation of the procedure for activating the torque control on the RL. Can you provide the steps necessary to activate the Select Torque (traction) control for the RL (the L, the X, etc seem to have different procedures). 3. After installing a different ECU, is the activation of torque control a different procedure or the same as the non-modified RL?

Great Video I run the Vortex (only choice out)and I’ve experienced the engine death about 5 times now I’m really disappointed.Do you know off hand can mike Tacomoto remap the vortex? Keep up the great content

Can you still do good wheelies with the Athena GET like you said with the AIM i want what’s best all around but I mainly just wheelie and do street riding but want something I can trust in any kind of situation

I think leaving the stock exhaust is important. An aftermarket header and exhaust that takes away most of the backpressure is a mistake.

Why didn't you test the JD Jetting Power Surge Tuner? I generally don't ever see anything about this one.

Considering ditching my CRF250L for the 450RL & have watched a lot of vids on 450 problems & mods. The one thing I haven't seen anywhere, is a video that compares the original Honda ECU to any of the aftermarket options. Many people mention issues with the OEM parts, but I haven't found one vid that shows them. Need to see the baseline data.

Hey everyone. I'm looking to get the FMF Q4 and Mega Bomb header for my 2020 CRF 450L but I'm not sure what part numbers to order. Do I order a Q4 for a 2020 CRF 450X and a mega bomb header for a 2020 CRF 450RX?

I want the IAM

Soooo - for those of us with Vortex’s from when they were the only option on the market - sell and get the GET???

Is there any power numbers? Anything?

Would a GET on a ktm 450 make it a ridoculous amount of power? These are already quick bikes

If I order the Athena get for a stock exhaust I can change it in the settings later for a full gravesTi ?

So when you receive the get ecu from taco Moto, it’s already programmed with their custom maps and all you got to do is plug and play?, if I order the one without Wi-Fi that is?

bougth me an AIM with HB Switch and User Bridge Connector to PC May.22. Had a Lot of Software issues. AIM is just learning. at first All Maps were eaquzal !! For Launch and Traction Control enabled they want additional Money!!!! At August 22 right before Your Video they launched a new Base Map with different Named Maps. Currently mine is back at AIM right now the second time for Software Repair of HB Switch after update to 0.0.14. AIM feels like a green Banana. I didn't get any Feedback from AIM. it doesn't feel like working together. Your Comment about the Usability of HB Switch while riding with gloves is extremly super friendly. i would suggest to to use something else than AIM

Still waiting for an automotive style ecu that can be connected to a laptop so you can see what the O2 sensor is reading and use that to tune fuel/air mixture. Seat of the pants tuning is too subjective and possibly destructive.

The Vortex's have problems. With the first, my bike would not start. With the second, it starts but has cold start problems and takes 4 to 5 times before starting. Be careful

Is EJK no longer in the game?

Vortex is not hard to get,order thru them,Australia to Oklahoma in 8 days. How i see it the other options have been hard to get up untill the last month or so. We still need a independent test were the ecu wasnt provided by a company pushing a certain ecu.Plus lets see the dyno data.

Can we get a 2023 update?

450x.. With about a grand to burn…. Put on exhaust or ECU ?

Hopefully your Taco moto discount comes through for you video.

Anyone want to buy my vortex or jd power tuner? PM if so

Can we put a 450X ecu on the RL ? if not, why the fuck not???? Joe dirt out.....

If I had to replace my ECM on a new bike, I would never buy it

Why do people buy these things?