Spot on, I think. You know in Rollers, we feed VERY, VERY sparingly and the diet would really shock most racing fanciers. Generally, kit birds live on about tablespoon of a mix that is 50-50 wheat and milo. And that's it each day. I went for 40 years never giving my kit birds vitamin supplements, minerals or even grit because that's how I was taught to do it. They got whole wheat and they got water and nothing more unless they made it to the breeding loft (before all the issues with BOPS, you'd fly a bird for two or three years straight before stocking it). The birds born with great feather retained the great feather even under this sort of system and I never really saw much of a difference once a pigeon made it to the stock loft and got rich stuff, with the exception of lacking the typical flight wear found in kit birds that flew and rolled daily. Happy New Year, Frank!
@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons7 ай бұрын
Great study over time and thank you. Genetics plays such a big part. Hope you have a super 2024!
@stevenspainhower54938 ай бұрын
I agree, Frank. I have seen only temporary enhancements of feather quality after giving a few products, like The Edge in their drinking water or oils on the feed or kickin chicks liquid. But, permanently satin, beautiful feathering is congenital.
@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons7 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing! If the pigeons are really lacking some supplements will help. If you give a good grain mix and plenty of minerals the feather quality should be super. Baths and oils will not make a difference.
@fabricdragon8 ай бұрын
havent even started to hit play, and i am gonna say "both" good care will improve the feather quality of any pigeon, but it has a genetic limit. meanwhile those genetic superstars will have decent feathers on poor care, but wont reach their potential unless given good care. (hits play to see how i did)
@fabricdragon8 ай бұрын
ok... agreed in general. i do think that the nutrition is MOST important when baby birds are growing, so it might make more difference if they werent old birds, but ... yeah, a good bird (feather quality) will always be better... interesting experiment, sir:
@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons7 ай бұрын
Of course you should always give proper nutrition plus minerals but super quality feather is genetics first. Great point.
@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons7 ай бұрын
Babies need super nutrition to grow and reach full potential. Minerals are very important.
@Oneloftracing7 ай бұрын
This has been my point I have made in many post . Fanciers. Will not make a silk purse from a pigs ear .Quality does not come in a potion or a product it's genetics .
@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons7 ай бұрын
Without the genetics it will not matter what you give the pigeons. Proper nutrition is very important and combined with genetics the birds feather quality is amazing.
@Razorloft88027 ай бұрын
Great info and thanks for sharing. I think a combination of both genetics and care are factors that can affect the feather quality. I agree with one of the commenters below regarding good nutrition while the birds are growing can help and certainly the genetics are a big factor as well. Have a great new years to everyone and all be safe.
@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons7 ай бұрын
Very true. I always give proper nutrition but without genetics you will never have great feather no matter what you feed or supplement.
@TanzLoft7 ай бұрын
lovely
@maximuslofttv80697 ай бұрын
I totally agree. Genetics play the big role. nutrition only nurtures it.
@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons7 ай бұрын
Very true. Without the genetics there is nothing you can do to get great feather.
@TravelwithRomer7 ай бұрын
AWESOME INFORMATION!
@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons7 ай бұрын
Happy you enjoyed. I am having fun with KZfaq
@bobbycielos8998 ай бұрын
Totally agree
@GuardianAngel..7 ай бұрын
Mr. McLaughlin quick question what would You say is the best way to give Probiotics to Your Birds, should You sprinkle it on their feed or should You mix it in the water?
@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons7 ай бұрын
The problem with probiotics is that many put the probiotics in the water and most water is treated with chlorine etc which kills the probiotics. I feel you should use an aquarium chlorine remover whether you add the probiotics to the feed or water. Adding to the feed is better because more of the probiotics gets into the pigeon. Buy the chlorine remover at Petco or similar. I use the one to two drops to the gallon brand because it is easy. I let sit for a minute and then add the probiotics.
@digitalassets38318 ай бұрын
Thanks for the useful information
@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons7 ай бұрын
Happy you enjoyed.
@GuardianAngel..8 ай бұрын
Present Sir 🫡
@eddieortiz42767 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing Some old timers would say that they could be you on race day feeding scratch feed 😂
@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons7 ай бұрын
We must change and improve if our competitors are changing and improving.
@xumarineaddicts88107 ай бұрын
Happy new year Frank
@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons7 ай бұрын
Very same to you!
@nabanikhan89237 ай бұрын
Happy new year sir🎉🎉 🍾🍾
@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons7 ай бұрын
Happy new year to you also
@premierleague30727 ай бұрын
I agee feathers are genetics but i will say last year i purchased a hen from OLR auction when i opened the box feathers were dry she came here last April /May . If you handle her now you would not think was the same hen she is silk feathers and a beautiful hen so with no stress probably better feed grit minerals baths and a full moult feathers can improve .
@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons7 ай бұрын
I have seen this also that feathers can get ruined by environmental factors and once proper care is given the super feather is displayed.
@premierleague30727 ай бұрын
I paired 8 pairs 8/9th Dec 6 hens laid two eggs 19th/21st but today 31st two hens have not laid . These are two year old hens is there in your opinion anything to be concerned about . All in same section same feed grit minerals what has happened. On a last note both hens spend a lot of time in there boxes with the cocks the box front doors are open 24 hrs .
@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons7 ай бұрын
This is hard to say. Even with running lights it is not normal to breed this time of year. I always have a few hens that take a long time to lay in winter but after the first round they are fine. If they look super they should be okay but it is frustrating to have some take so long to lay.
@johnscheuring94548 ай бұрын
Thanks for your video Frank. Are white feathers inherently weaker than other feather colors… thinking mostly about the primary flights.
@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons7 ай бұрын
When a pigeon is young and has the white flights they are weaker. The dark colored flights tend to hold up better. Once a white flighted young bird molts those white feathers are just as strong as colored feathers.
@abdur488 ай бұрын
Hi frank how are you i love your tips can you tell me if whether is very very hot and humid like temperature is a 45 degree Celsius and up if you giving a corn every day it’s okay???
@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons7 ай бұрын
When you say corn do you mean Maize? I have corn in my grain mix and it will not matter to have corn in the feed in any temperature. I am not a huge fan of corn during racing or breeding but use this in the off season.
@alliemanuel96927 ай бұрын
Hi Frank can I feed my weaned babies once a day
@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons7 ай бұрын
You can feed once a day but they must have all they can eat and have a long time to clean up the feed. I feed once a day to the babies but I fill the feeders and they eat what they want all day long.
@NelsonNelsonNelson448 ай бұрын
Thanks for this basic true video Everything and any theory in racing pigeons are only genetics the rest in my opininion are only big BS.Happy new year to you and your family
@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons7 ай бұрын
You are right. You need great pigeons with super genetics to have success.
@mohammadadil14708 ай бұрын
Hello frank How many g you feed your race pigeon
@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons7 ай бұрын
You will find my measurements here: kzfaq.info/sun/PLfjpm1Kc9E0UkXcdnfTrnV_VKTkfNozbt
@CelestinedonoughCelestine7 ай бұрын
It is however also influence by weather i remember handling pigeons in Canada the feather unbelievably soft .in countries with extreme cold weather and snow the feathers are different so feather in Southern hemisphere and Northern hemisphere. Quality and quantity is weather influence this comment does not disprove Frank's views .
@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons7 ай бұрын
Interesting. Seems animals in colder climates must be stronger to deal with the very intense cold.
@vincentgabriel80248 ай бұрын
i think its Genetic I have a pair that always give me yb with silk like feathers
@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons7 ай бұрын
You will see certain pigeons breed such great feather quality.