Where's the SEC, IRS or even the FBI when they are needed? Go to hell WATA!!!!

I love Karnov Pat! I grew up owning it as a kid... hadn't played it in 20 + Years... I picked it up last year and absolutely destroyed the game! 😆

These prices don't surprise me nor shock me. They're trying to drum up the prices and they're succeeding. What's surprising me is the lack of sellers. I think you two have talked about a guy with cartons of sealed games before. I'm surprised people like that haven't been capitalizing on this trend while the prices are high. It can't last forever.

Pat I'm waiting for the video where there are no games or nintendo items in the background, and you are wearing lots of bling. hahaha.

Its stupid. This isn't even a rare game. You're paying hundreds of thousands for a nice box. And its probably not even that rare to find a sealed one. This bullshit isn't even about a good rare game like say Dragon Force or Shinning Force 3 (sorry I'm a Sega fan😂). Its stupid speculation. SMB is a good game printed in millions upon millions you can still buy at garage sales for 5 bucks. But with this sealed crap you don't even know if the game inside works. Arguably the most important part of owning a GAME! These aren't games anymore, they've been turned into memorabilia cause being wraped in the original 1 cent cellophane is somehow worth hundreds of thousands now so they can create a new worthless comic book and trading card market.

@@atranfanatic good deal!!!

Yeah you could buy a car for that

They probably see it as an investment and are hoping it will go up in price over the next 10 - 30 years. It's a gamble but if they have that kinda money to blow on a NES game, I doubt it will make a dent in their wallet.

@@ninjamaster3453 you could buy 23 nice cars. However cars usually go down in price overtime, this will likely go up over time.

@@ninjamaster3453 or 60 cars

I would spend it on making a home arcade.

Seeeeaaaaaalllllllleeeeeeedddddd

You forgot *LIMITED*.

Also..."Update!"

That's not well know compared to super Mario. Not living in America the rest of the world doesn't care

@@waynecampbell3431 that's what's so tragic about it. NWC is much more deserving of that recognition than one of the highest selling games of all time that just happens to have shrink wrap on it imo

Cultural Significance...one has it, the other not so much

@@jimmyjay689 I'd argue that both were hugely culturally significant. One of the rarest and most saught after cartridges that signifies one of the first mainstream video game competitions, vs. the game that popularized a genre and a franchise and moved games into households everywhere

imagine a sealed NWC! WW3 would happen over this!

They are completely destroying the hobby....

@@fordxbgtfalcon It's how the hobby should be.

Whoa, nice deep cut.

Im really into comics and geek stuff; back about 4-5 years ago, a guy I work with knows that and came up to me; hes like "guess what, i invested." Im like, "yeah?". "Yup, I bought Walking Dead 1-10; #1 and a few others are sealed and graded". I was a little baffled, "you just bought them now?". "Yeah its an investment." I forget how much issue 1 listed for at the time, I think like $800-$1000. But Im like "dude what did you pay?". "About $750". I was like, as a collector thats okay if you love it. But for an investment that was dumb. Its at its peak popularity now. (5 years ago). And I dont think besides #1 and others besides maybe #100 where Negan appears and Glenn dies, none of them will be worth anything (Ive seen sealed copies of #100 that are signed go for $100). I was like, "they may go up to $1000 for you someday, so you make $250? But then have to worry about theft, damage, fire, flood... Not a good investment dude. You'll probably get $500 in the end..." Its all about getting in early. If you dont have these games or comics already, dont buy them now! If you buy a #1 issue at a comic store and got it for $4, yeah cool, if it stays worthless you lost nothing (got to read a comic). If it jumps in value you have an investment. Same with any commodity - if you dont have Bitcoin already, dont buy into it now. Don't buy an existing NFT off someone that they already bought. Dont bu ya painting for millions of dollars. If its even real, you probably wont get more for it. Its all pyramid schemes. Its not worth much, but if you convince people its worth a lot and then can sell it, you make your money. But like musical chairs, someone has to be the dickhead left standing with no chair at the end. And you'll be out a lot of money.... Coins at least can be made of valuable metals... But even that market kind of a scam (like diamonds, they aren't really worth shit! Go buy a diamond for a lot, turn around and try to sell it back, not happening ha-ha). You foot the bill for everyone else who passed it off. At least only buy something you can afford, and that if you get stuck with it you still like it. Everything comes to an end, coins, stamps, model trains, player piano rolls, baseball cards... Don't be the guy at the end of the chain... So 100%, kudos to the guy who sold the comics to my buddy, YOU were the one who made out well, my buds going to be left holding the bag.

@@squidracerX I agree except for the topic of a one of a kind painting. Like if someone said they bought the mona lisa for a billion dollars, I wouldn't really have a critique. It's famous and one of a kind. You could argue it's priceless. On the other hand, as you said, there would be stress involved in owning something like that. But I wouldn't call it a bad investment for any price. You do have a point about the value potentially being stagnant. So it's a bad money making investment, but it will likely hold its value better than cash will. So while you might not make money, it's like buying property. It has relatively stable value. But one of a kind, physical art is a different category. Even something like a video game box isn't necessarily bad to buy. But only if it's because you want it because you want it. Buying expensive things in the hopes of them appreciating in value is always a big risk. But take Pat for example. He bought both NWC carts. Not because he wanted to make money. However, if that was his plan, it would have paid off. The value has multiplied 5 times since he bought them. But they're very rare and very desirable. So if someone bought an nwc now to make money, it's still kind of stupid, but it wouldn't be the dumbest idea. Certainly there are better, safer investments. But it's likely the prices will continue to climb for the foreseeable future. The digital goods are where it gets weird to me. It's a thing that anyone can "experience". If you have a phone or computer, you can see the same thing as what someone else bought. Again, a real painting is different than a picture of a painting. Understandably, the difference doesn't matter to everyone. I feel like I'm rambling a bit. I definitely agree that buying something expensive to make money doesn't make sense. It might hold its value though. If currency inflates, at least the physical item inflates with it. But generated, digital goods make no sense to invest in.

@Matthew Meditz I don't know if you saw the latest video, but it might not have even sold for that price. It could have essentially been a fake bid and then sold to the next highest bidder. I think that's actually much more likely. All about inflating those prices.

@Matthew Meditz Right. But heritage auctions doesn't have to say if the person doesn't pay for it. They can go down the list of bidders until someone says they want it. They never would update the sold price so that it appears that's the price. As far as I know, the buyer never came forward saying that he or she bought it. So there's no way to say for sure if that price was paid.

I dunno what ppls problem is w Pat. He has always told it like it is and seems very genuine. What is there to hate?

nwc video reference. u a true fan.

Yes! One of the best avgn episodes

@@bhcamaro2002 possibly my fav avgn episode.

😎👌

Yep, money laundering scheme

They already have

@@vanmennace It's a fabricated show, they'll do it again. 👾

@@WaysideWade I misunderstood your response. Thought you suggested for the first time. Agree with u though.

@@vanmennace No big deal. Great to have a civil conversation regardless. 🙋🍻 I could have been more specific too. 🗡️🛡️

Ummmmmm......Just let me get a guy I know who knows about retro video games.......

I mean, yeah...

Of course, these people just buy these things to evade their taxes. Just like with modern "art". Give a piece of crap an insane value, put your earnings in it and boom!

Who cares

@@neatuhfajita9128 yo momma

Yea probably some boomer or Arabian prince.

@@yotvvan2472 Aren’t these two kind of people more into classical art?

No kidding. I had Transformers, GI Joe's, Masters of the Universe and more. Ripped them open and toss the packing in the trash.

Yeah i had G1 optimus and every nes ad on and tons of games. Not to mention the o.g. he man toys

One of them is dead, FYI

DODODODODO!!!

We've discussed this previously that video game collecting does not follow other media in terms of the *true* first release being the most coveted.

@@PatTheNESpunk is there any news you follow on the Japanese collecting market, over there I mean. Curious if the same level of hype exists in the domestic Japanese collecting market. A topic worth bringing up if there are examples, only ones that come up are western sales in the news.

Games in Japan weren’t sold sealed. Every copy looks exactly the same there aren’t any variants.

@@toaker probably the way it should be here too

@@PatTheNESpunk I know, I was the one that brought that topic to your attention.

Nobody wanted old ipods, now they sell for high prices...

Yea this is nuts its not like there has been a super long time between then and now maybe if these games where centuries old they would worth this much but no games are that old yet.

20 year window for collecting for looking back. 90s you got the 70s revival, then next 80s and so on. we had 90s for ages, now its early 2000s. selling physical media there was little interest in 90s and early 2000s bands a few years ago, now they sell like crazy.

Because games like GTA san andreas on PS2 are going for thousands lol If it's sealed and got a wata case it apparently doesn't matter, it's worth thousands ;p Heck a sealed FF7 went for thousands, if I remember correctly, and that is the 2nd most common PS1 game in existence. There has to be a shit ton of sealed ones floating around.

I am just going to keep playing games

Oh boy its time for me to start selling.

@@devilmikey00 that is so crazy lol. there has to be an atwood for ps2 games in the world with boxes of them sealed hahaha

When the prices get this high it's likely a sign that professional investors/funds are getting increasingly involved rather than it just being wealthy collectors who really want something. The same thing's happened in other collectable fields, the fine art market especially. Paintings don't sell for hundreds of millions because someone wants to hang them in their living room.

Yea this is dodgy.

it’s just pandemic the rich need something to blow there chump change on and this is it apparently

Bro did same about a week ago lol your not alone

Its a cool historical item it's just that the price is goofy

Blue Horseshoe loves graded NES carts.

Never trust a company that would grade a timebomb .

idk, maybe we can chemical test the fumes, to see if it was a legit first edition battery!

100%. unfortunately the business they are running is not going after. it will move into new things with time. its a great scam, charge to grade, grading increases value, more items get sent to be graded. it exists in the art world, but its panels, who decide if a work is legit or not. look into the history of Andy Warhol Art Authentication Board, to give a sense of this will go for high value items.

Even loose one sells for a hundred something. Tell me about it! 😅

Come on man i remember those being everywhere.