Superbon vs Marat Grigorian 3

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@mmee1885 Ай бұрын

superbon has left knee injury since round 1 that should explain his changed game plan, but a close fight indeed

@frederickdoyon Ай бұрын

I thought the decision was ok. I would rather take the punches superbon received than all those knees and kick. That being said, if Marat would of got the decision i wouldn't have been upset in the slightest. Superbon look so overtrained recently though. Even in the second Marat fight he looked tired quickly.

@user-pd9ju5dk5s Ай бұрын

Overtrained or undertrained?

@frederickdoyon Ай бұрын

@@user-pd9ju5dk5s absolutely overtrained. His routine is crazy and Thais in general train the old ways.

@Deimian676 Ай бұрын

He received it to the guard (the kicks and knees) but those punches that superbon received koed him. So I can’t really make sense of what you’re saying

@user-pd9ju5dk5s Ай бұрын

@@Deimian676 oh blah blah blah this guy is the biggest excuser for Armenian fighters, always an excuse

@Deimian676 Ай бұрын

@@user-pd9ju5dk5s oh blah blah blah, and I guess when allazov koed superbon what were you saying ? Oh that’s right crying

@kr_4745 Ай бұрын

I would say 1-2 Superbon, 3-4 Marat. And for the 5th my insight isn’t good enough to judge who was better. So Im good with the decision, but Marat winning would be fine too.

@clapdrix72 Ай бұрын

In KB scoring criteria, kicks to the arms don't score and neither do strikes that don't affect your opponent. I thought Matat edged out 5 with punches that snapped Bon's head back, plus leg kicks that buckled him. Bon's strikes didn't look powerful at all with his obvious fatigue, nor did they seem to affect Marat in the slightest. Not to mention it's generally accepted that a fighter who is clearly, visibly fatigued in a round doesnt win that round unless they get a knockdown or the opponent is even more fatigue. Marat didn't look the tiniest bit tired so that breaks the tie for me.

@MrDrizzyy Ай бұрын

Love hearing your thoughts on fighters Gabriel! Could you do a video on 5 things Sean Strickland does so well for his upcoming fight against Paulo Costa?

@vinceventura4453 26 күн бұрын

He doesn’t do anything well besides Perry and jab , he has a decent teep of his lead leg which I guess is kinda impressive for a middleweight but he’s not even a big middleweight so it’s not that Impressive. Honestly the most high level part of Sean’s game is something that rarely sees him using it because of the weight class he is in , it’s his defensive grappling and ability to sweep from bottom , he is deceptively strong . But I’m sure you’re talking about just in a striking sense and that is really it bud he’s not some world class striker or even really a good striker to be honest , he’s durable and he is willing to keep putting on pressure though keeping a stick in your face and once he has you pinned against the cage he will let his two go , he doesn’t like letting his two fly because I think he knows he doesn’t keep his balance well and his feet don’t stay under him when he’s throwing it and he doesn’t want to get caught over extended . No im not a 5x world champion like Gabriel is but I did stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night .

@liamjohn6464 Ай бұрын

Hey Gabriel I have watched your first fight with Adamchuck a few times and I think you should of won that fight personality

@samjohnsonkb Ай бұрын

ONE's scoring criteria goes as follows (starting from most important to least important): Knockdowns, Damage, Strikes Landed, Agression and Control/Ring Generalship. There were no knockdowns, not a lot of visible damage on either fighter, so it mainly comes down to strikes landed and who was being more aggressive and controlling the ring. I have no clue how someone can give Superbon the win based on ONE's offical scoring criteria. Dude landed 2-3 punches for every knee Superbon landed and pressured him the entire fight. It was a close *fight*, but it was not a close *match*. Awful decision

@Deimian676 Ай бұрын

Agreed for the life of me if this was a Muay Thai fight I could see it going to superbon but not under their scoring criteria

@mikeramos4955 Ай бұрын

I think Marat was a lot more active and aggressive. Landed the cleaner shots and I think deserved the win. But at the same time I prefer Thai style 😃

@saileshnaidu8102 Ай бұрын

nah, superbon won 4-1

@maxkassette1880 Ай бұрын

based opinion

@biglukasabc Ай бұрын

Yeah I think Marat won just by a little bit but superbon is cooler

@BoxerKyokushin Ай бұрын

Marat landed more solid punches, but Marat need to train more knee and kick.

@outerlast Ай бұрын

yea i thought it's a change of strategy, but seems like he's not in optimal condition.

@nicolejiang9070 Ай бұрын

At least it's a close fight, not like someone said that it's obviously Marat's Win. And nearly no one notices the Marat's double-swollened left thigh?

@benjaminvuong8269 Ай бұрын

I think Superbon needs to work on his anaerobic conditioning e.g., sprints and pull back on the aerobic long-distance running that traditional Thai gryms love. His last fight with Grigorian he could've fought another 5 rounds, but Grigorian really increased the pace this time

@rudro5784 Ай бұрын

You can see buakaw's shadow on his style Ps: yeah i know both are from banchamek gym

@achukuttan3550 Ай бұрын

Yo gabriel u should make an vidio on how to talk to ur coach and how to be comfortable around him and asking questions

@midnightrave19 Ай бұрын

u just gotta be you’ll never get better if ur afraid to ask questions no video needed

@zachg.4908 20 сағат бұрын

What kind of question is this lol?

@clapdrix72 Ай бұрын

If this were MT scoring criteria then it would be Bon, but in KB you have to give it to Marat. It was somewhat close and Bon scored with a lot of knees but with his visible fatigue in the final 3 rounds his strikes didn't look like they had any zip to them, more wet noodles than baseball bats. Nor did it look like they were having any effect on Marat. 48/47 Marat for me, no question.

@adamtankersley7441 Ай бұрын

I’d personally score it 3-2 for Marat. 16:47

@shauncoop74 Ай бұрын

Surely in kickboxing, the judges give credit if you actually kick (and knee)? Maybe somebody should tell Grigorian... Sure, he punches harder, but if they're not hard enough to get a knockdown, then technical superiority (including a much higher range of techniques) counts.

@aethos0 Ай бұрын

damn im a huge superbon fan but I dont know if he got that one under kickboxing rules Gabe. Under Traditional Muay Thai rules I see how superbon could've won because of the knees and kicks he was landing. Even then tho, just on the eye test/damage Gregorian was laying it on superbon and superbon gassed out. I was worried about seeing superbon get knocked out.

@harithrakurukulasuriya3220 Ай бұрын

I honestly thought superbon lost. And he was so out of his normal energy... something was clearly off with superbon.

@JPMgeo Ай бұрын

Looks like Marat won on face value, may need a more in-depth look however

@cpa314 Ай бұрын

I think Superbon by split decision but barely... def not unanimous

@Deimian676 21 күн бұрын

Makes no sense

@bunmeng007 Ай бұрын

Close fight. But superbon took round 5 with more knee and punches.

@Deimian676 Ай бұрын

I didn’t know throwing more to the guard score points . But ok

@bunmeng007 Ай бұрын

@@Deimian676 well, all 3 judges also score same the decision as me so who r u to know better? Okay

@Deimian676 Ай бұрын

@@bunmeng007 the same judges that are scoring it in Thailand ? You make it sound like judges don’t get it wrong or are nonsensical . This is one of those. Okay!

@bunmeng007 Ай бұрын

@@Deimian676 is there any chance u got it wrong urself? Watch more kickboxing and learn about one kickboxing scoring rules boy. Okay...

@Deimian676 Ай бұрын

@@bunmeng007 ⁠been watching for over 25 years . Is there a good chance you just started watching band is impressed with kicks hitting guard ?

@JoelBrage Ай бұрын

Felt like Grigorian was dominating most of it but perhaps that is due to his style.

@LeeJCander Ай бұрын

I feel Marat hit more but Superbon hit more effective.

@Marshymilz Ай бұрын

I thought you weren't giving superbon enough credit for the amount of stepthrough knees he landed. He did look very fatigued and marat landed the bigger shots though.

@Deimian676 Ай бұрын

He landed on the guard and bicep (majority of them) so no credit deserved

@Marshymilz Ай бұрын

i mean some did, but a lot were straight on the guts.

@elserpientethechamp2122 Ай бұрын

This was a masterclass of a performance from Marat Grigorian in my opinion Gabriel, after rewatching the fight, the first time I watched it I had 4-1 Marat, but after rewatching it again I have Marat again winning the last three rounds of the fight and Superbon edging the first two rounds with his kicks, but overall Marat definetly should have won that and in my opinion that was a controversial decision but overall an amazing fight non the less, very intriguing and exciting to watch!

@aethos0 Ай бұрын

do you think all the kicking tired out superbon ? never seen him gassed like that.

@elserpientethechamp2122 Ай бұрын

@@aethos0 I think he did not take this fight serious enough, otherwise he would not be gassed out!

@onlyone664 Ай бұрын

"Masterclass performance.." 🤦‍♂️😂🤣 Superbon undoubtedly took it & both r/kickboxing & r/Muaythai (MT/KB practitioners & fanatics) agrees - like it's not even a debate.. rounds were close but Superbon edged almost all... If those knees truly werent doin much like some here are sayin then Marat would've pressured relentlessly & doubled the amount punches thrown tryin to headhunt..

@sauhardyasarkar6427 Ай бұрын

Though I'm a Superbon fan, but it seems like Marat was the winner

@nwbdirge1198 Ай бұрын

In my opinion this was kind of boring idk if it was because of how intertaining ufc 300 was or if its just the fight itself

@enizbaytar7844 Ай бұрын

not giving 3,4,5 to Marat is legit sign of lack of understanding in Kickboxing. These scorecards are big jokes.

@lessthanpinochet Ай бұрын

Not convinced that Superbon did enough to win.

@user-pd9ju5dk5s Ай бұрын

Disagree. All Marat did was throw punches and he missed majority of them. Superbon was more active landing more clean knees

@Deimian676 Ай бұрын

@@user-pd9ju5dk5ssuperbon kicking and kneeing to marats guards is meaningless. Marat landed clean punches all night. Those are the same punches that koed superbon .

@user-pd9ju5dk5s Ай бұрын

@@Deimian676clean punches gtfo 😂😂😂 he missed like 65% all his punches

@Deimian676 Ай бұрын

@@user-pd9ju5dk5s he missed 65% of his punches . So did allazov when he koed superbon what’s your point ?

@abolition1889 Ай бұрын

@@Deimian676 No point arguing with Superbon/Rodtang fanboys. They’re fanatics and their ‘idol’ can do no wrong

@AliGKICKBOXING Ай бұрын

I really can’t believe people are saying superbon took the fight look at pressure from marat look at superbons face look at damage Bear in mind, this is not muaythai so why they’re scoring like one

@joefh1985 Ай бұрын

3,4,5 Marat for me. Left kicks to the arms were impressive but didn’t affect the fight much.

@Rotscrek Ай бұрын

Marat looked tired, Superbon looked COOKED. Something must've gone wrong in general, hardly their best showing. Marat using calf kicks at short range was a novelty ngl, and i had him edge out the fight.

@onlyone664 Ай бұрын

Superbon easy.. both r/kickboxing & r/Muaythai (MT/KB practitioners & fanatics) agrees - like it's not even a debate.. rounds were close but Superbon edged almost all... If those knees truly werent doin much like some here are sayin then Marat would've pressured relentlessly & doubled the amount punches thrown tryin to headhunt..

@gavinjackson3193 Ай бұрын

Damage and fatigue was the biggest factor for this fight for Marat that lets me think he won

@7184610369 Ай бұрын

Under kickboxing rules, I feel Marat should have won (it was close). If it was traditional Muay Thai rules, than the fight would have gone to Superbon.

@Deimian676 Ай бұрын

I agree

@NnebiB Ай бұрын

Its theft, superbon lost it..

@Deimian676 Ай бұрын

Disgusting fight in terms of how they scored it

@user-pd9ju5dk5s Ай бұрын

😂 Stay mad 😂😂

@Deimian676 Ай бұрын

@@user-pd9ju5dk5s cope, what happened in January 2023 😂

@abolition1889 Ай бұрын

@@Deimian676This 🤡 is a well known simp of Superbon. Oh wait scratch that. For all Thai fighters. His supreme leader is that 8limbed blah blah dude

@onlyone664 Ай бұрын

@Deimian676 Ай бұрын

@@onlyone664 I don’t ever see Marat’s back against the ropes . This isn’t Muay Thai .

@Factsplease91 Ай бұрын

I think Marat won, Superbons knees were devastating but didn’t seem to do much damage and not all landed. Marat kept the pressure on and kept the combinations going ( head body leg), But all in all good fight.

@djamillakhdar-hamina3824 Ай бұрын

He throws no kicks

@Sandra1998es Ай бұрын

Y Superbon solo usa los puños para abrazar a Marat@@djamillakhdar-hamina3824

@kaliduncanel3356 Ай бұрын

@@djamillakhdar-hamina3824he threw plenty low kicks. If you don't think they mattered just say that

@onlyone664 Ай бұрын

If Superbon's knees weren't doing damage then surely Marat would've been even more active pressing forward

@EmmeryMyers Ай бұрын

Marat robbed

@rozeautopet Ай бұрын

man i don't understand kickboxing rules at all. love superbon but can't see how he won that lol

@thebarnave Ай бұрын

Agreed, Marat looked in control all fight

@djamillakhdar-hamina3824 Ай бұрын

@@thebarnavewalking forward getting blasted with knees is not “control”

@bryankong4412 Ай бұрын

@@thebarnave walking forward and pressuring is not control, if marat were to counter and deny certain movement from superbon while forcing him to uncomfortable position than that is consider as control. While that is being said fighting while moving back is totally other skill that is not easy to do.

@Speedofdark339 Ай бұрын

I think you may want to slow mo the fight and watch again. @@bryankong4412

@Deimian676 Ай бұрын

@@djamillakhdar-hamina3824huh? Getting kneed to the guard isn’t the same thing as getting kneed in the torso , this isn’t Muay thai

@nwbdirge1198 Ай бұрын

No ones falling for that superbon win everyone thinks Grigorian won

@onlyone664 Ай бұрын

Both r/kickboxing & r/Muaythai (MT/KB practitioners & fanatics) agrees - like it's not even a debate.. rounds were close but Superbon edged almost all...

@GAtTheTop Ай бұрын

@@onlyone664bro actually cites reddit as a source

@onlyone664 Ай бұрын

@@GAtTheTop hilarious that you think you're makin some valid argument.. so it's either KZfaq comments frequented by the everybody & their momma Vs a very specific subreddit where people have keen interest & actually study & practice the subject @ hand.. hmm..🧐🧐

@joerogue231 Ай бұрын

@@GAtTheTopReddit is a way better source than casuals on KZfaq lmao.

@bo-MMA Ай бұрын

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@warshrike9075 Ай бұрын

I'll preface by saying I'm not a kickboxer, I do Muay Thai. So don't really have a solid grasp on the scoring of kickboxing. But, it definitely looked like that should have gone in the favor of Marat, no doubt about it. Love Superbon, one of my current favorite fighters, but that just was not as solid of a performance as I'd expect out of him. Marat was playing bobble-head with Superbon the whole match and almost nothing Superbon threw seemed to have any effect on Marat, even those solid knees. And Marat also had forward pressure for the vast majority of the fight. I could see a split decision, but not unanimous.

@onlyone664 Ай бұрын

"playing bobblehead".. you mean missing power shots & uppercuts?? "Nothing Superbon threw seemed to have any effect" Superbon easy.. both r/kickboxing & r/Muaythai (MT/KB practitioners & fanatics) agrees - like it's not even a debate.. rounds were close but Superbon edged almost all... If those knees truly werent doin much like some here are sayin then Marat would've pressured relentlessly & doubled the amount punches thrown tryin to headhunt..

@warshrike9075 Ай бұрын

@@onlyone664 Marat did pressure relentlessly after the second round though. He did miss a lot of shots too, definitely had a lower thrown/hit ratio than Superbon did, but threw more shots overall. Regardless though, congrats to Superbon! Happy to see him winning again!

@Deimian676 Ай бұрын

Agreed brother

@Deimian676 Ай бұрын

@@onlyone664superbon easy what? As you can see not a lot of people agree with the decision. Clearly contested . Superbon was getting uppercut throughout rounds

@onlyone664 Ай бұрын

@@Deimian676 Depends on the demographic.. it isn't contested in either r/muaythai or r/kickboxing but ofcourse the "contesters" are going to be overrepresented in a vid like this where the likes of you commenting "disgusting decision" as though it was a flatout robbery are going to come seeking validation & leave a bunch of comments whereas most might just pass by.. 🤷

@sabermori2537 Ай бұрын

i dont like this fight at all so boring superbon is not a spectaculair fighter like allazov or bukaw

@xristosrizos8406 Ай бұрын

Kickboxing is a joke sport nowadays if people think this fight could have been scored for Grigorian. He ate more knees and more kicks to the body, and more leg kicks but he somehow won because a few punches passed Superbon's guard?? Really, unless there is a finish, kickboxing is a joke nowadays. Ever since clinch and catching kicks were banned. It has now become a sport for people to throw combos in the pocket and exchange leg kicks. Total shit.

@nicolejiang9070 Ай бұрын

AGREE. There is no real clear rule about kickboxing and it changes every now and then. And nobody considers the double-swollen of Marat's left leg means a lot of damage that Superbon did to him... Marat is just too strong to show his damage, but it doesn't mean it's not exist.

@Deimian676 Ай бұрын

Are you dumb? About 75 percent of the strikes thrown hit marats guard . The rest were on target round 1-2 and that’s it

@xristosrizos8406 Ай бұрын

@@nicolejiang9070 Also even Garbriel said about visible damage as if Superbon's left kick doesn't hurt. It's crazy

@M-a-k-o Ай бұрын

Marat should have won. Regardless, Alazov is at another level🏆

@abolition1889 Ай бұрын

Every clown 🤡 in the comment rooting for Superbon talking about Superbon winning because of his knees and kicks. Well did they do one bit of damage to Marat? *Neutralised* is the word to use for Superbon in this fight. Panting away and gasping for air. I’ve said it once and I’ll say it again - Superbon is a one trick pony with the high kick to the head. If you neutralise that, you’ve nothing to worry about, just focus on knocking him out. Marat failed in that aspect, and paid for it by letting a weak Superbon win the belt.