More solar panel and supercapacitor play - but today was a bit too cold.
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@allenbarrow49043 жыл бұрын
Glad to see someone knows how to connect solar system to capacitors for storage. An idea to put into practice was long overdue.
@deangreenhough34797 жыл бұрын
Good call on the time lapse Julian 👍
@OmarAlvi7 жыл бұрын
Best voice and the greatest English accent. I want to listen, each word you pronounce. Very informative video. Thanks for uploading.
@desertdave7 жыл бұрын
Great to see this video, I have one on order and am waiting for it to arrive, I was just thinking the way those pads were once you cleaned them up that a small blue SM LED would fit perfect on those pads and would make nice low profile indicator, I will send you a pic once my PCB arrives, Dave from BMUK
@Anvilshock7 жыл бұрын
Total bitch to solder, as Julian has been demonstrating on occasion ...
@aiboffin2957 жыл бұрын
Thumbs up for the time lapse.
@starrmyres78417 жыл бұрын
I bought instruction from inplix and I build it very very cheap.
@schubi1286 жыл бұрын
The protection board I bought had a Led already. The balancing of the Supercaps is usually quite off until they are all up to 2,7V. Interesting is that this only happens when I charge them with my powersupply set to 13,5V for a 5s configuration. When I charge them with a 5W Solar panel (18V) The individual capacitors are charging much more evenly right from the start. Surely the Caps are charged much slower but I have no idea how the can allign their voltage other then "burning" energy when the protection kicks in (which happens rarely with the 5W Panel)
@maicod7 жыл бұрын
thanks for uploading this on the same day as the postbag. I just couldn't bare to wait any longer :)
@JulianIlett7 жыл бұрын
I didn't want to wait either - we all think alike!
@misfitthemad2767 жыл бұрын
+Maico Bare or bear?
@maicod7 жыл бұрын
Misfit the mad I'm not an english native speaker and this is the first time someone pointed me at this mistake. I must've used it wrongly alot of times :D I always assumed it could not be spelled like the animal :-)
@misfitthemad2767 жыл бұрын
+Maico English is a strange language my friend. In this case it is spelled like the animal. If you spell it the other way you're talking about exposing yourself! ;-)
@maicod7 жыл бұрын
Misfit the mad my language is Dutch and i'm sure it has weird quirks too :-)
@mikegyver31935 жыл бұрын
Love this guys work. 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
@ExStaticBass7 жыл бұрын
How well do you suppose super caps would perform in an impulse generator? I've often thought about using them for something like that. I just don't know how well they would tolerate a sudden short circuit discharge. I've known other more standard caps to bulge or even pop under conditions like that.
@FourSeasonsHD6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. What do you suggest to slow down current while discharging the capacitor bank? For example, If you wanted to charge battery from the super cap bank but not just at any rate but perhaps twice the current of the solar panel?
@akarshagarwal45167 жыл бұрын
Oh my god Jullian here's where your 50 uploads an hour can be exceeded. Double video bonanza. love it.
@pwnmeisterage6 жыл бұрын
I imagine that stubborn 2nd cap is somewhere closer towards the outside values allowed within tolerance. If so, then it seems a little odd to me that the module manufacturer wouldn't test, bin, and match the components more closely. Otherwise it seems to be a magnificent little board. What is the part number, where can I buy one?
@ChaitanyaDhareshwar5 жыл бұрын
+1 for covering everything including the weather
@N0body2475 жыл бұрын
They each have a 10 percent variable for voltage. so 2.7 can go up to 2.97 if they are Legit 500 F capacitors.
@gizzymoee7 жыл бұрын
Great video as usual, also can we have more bike videos this year :?. Really interested in how those massive cells are doing :).
@johnarmstrong37827 жыл бұрын
I bought one of these. Weirdly exactly the same capacitor (in the same place on the board) took an age to come up to voltage.
@BillyNoMates19747 жыл бұрын
interesting video. Amazon used to sell those capacitor banks but when I last looked I couldn't find them any more. It's a cheap way of getting a lot of 500F caps
@malgailany7 жыл бұрын
It would be interesting if you measure the total capacity of the bank using your static DC load after it is fully charged and see how close the total capacity meet their specs. Thanks.
@chrislp82935 жыл бұрын
83,3 F
@YodaWhat5 жыл бұрын
@@chrislp8293 At the rated specs, the capacitor bank will hold 10,935 joules, or 3 watt-hours, at 16.2 volts... not kilowatt-hours, just 3 watts for 1 hour. With realistic loads, perhaps 1/2 or 2/3 of the stored energy will be available, as the voltage will drop too low for most loads.
@Roy_Tellason5 жыл бұрын
That's where the joule thief comes in handy...!
@YodaWhat5 жыл бұрын
@@Roy_Tellason True. With bipolar transistors, a Joule Thief will continue to carry load until the input is down to about 7/10th of a volt.
@MCNPROD5 жыл бұрын
I can see where I can use that! In a battery backup system for my studio combined with lithium ion batteries !!! Love it Thanks !!
@cedricproper52565 жыл бұрын
This makes good sense. If you're going to buy a 500F capacitor bank, it should have a safety feature for overcharging.
@blaegme6 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't the leds change the resistance across that circuit?
@barbaras7117 жыл бұрын
my experience with fuses to a 6 set of 500F connected to a 45W solar panel is that it blew the 30A fuse upon connection. I have decided that the LEDs will indicate over charging and if i want to slow charge, I will use a small resistor inline with 2 LED in series. It seems to work. 1 V per 30 min charge at slow charge and 8 V TO 14V in less than 1 hour with 1 LED lit in 1ess than 1 hour.
@erikschiegg685 жыл бұрын
Without a diode, current will flow back to the solar panel, heating it, when a cloud passes. Ever thought using a joule thieve to get optimal charging voltage? Would be loading quite faster.
@focusfrenzy97597 жыл бұрын
only a matter of time before Julian builds a death ray! LOL
@2010craggy7 жыл бұрын
focus frenzy Yeah a Tesla coil, Microwave transformer, supercap, unobtainium flux capacitor based ray gun would be a fun build :)
@birnodin7 жыл бұрын
We should be carefull if he puts on his black mask and claims to be our father!
@blackseabrew7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for reminding me. I completely forgot about the unobtainium. How was purchased? Collusion with Russian oligarchs?
@joeyshaw97746 жыл бұрын
focus frenzy Fu
@jerryguerra3486 жыл бұрын
2010craggy sounds good. I want one. Do you have the plans?
@eliotmansfield7 жыл бұрын
I wonder if these are the same caps that are used in the sealey super-cap car battery booster pack?
@jnb7564 жыл бұрын
so... basically I just watched someone fail to charge their super capacitors, with a solar panel and then charge them via another source and then.... nothing. I could also go outside and watch the grass grow for the same entertainment value
@jimmartin78997 жыл бұрын
Graphite airogel formed in strips then compressed and constructed like how ultra capacitors are made. The size of a 30 gal propane tank with a rewired drum motor generator with magnetic bearings and a vacuum spark gap at the core of the ultra graphite airogel power cell. Do you think you could make one?
@DavidALovingMPF1024 жыл бұрын
I bought some small super caps. I will have to clean off the work bench and experiment! thanks!
@alexoja29185 жыл бұрын
Any diodes in series with the solar panel for reverse current protection?
@LateNightHacks7 жыл бұрын
Is it me or that cap looks a bit lighter shade of blue than the others? perhaps a different production batch? and hence the difference in capacity?
@TheDutyPaid7 жыл бұрын
I think where the caps came from quality control was not much of a factor.
@realflow1007 жыл бұрын
its samwha brand I have one and its 100 farads. same color as these ones. These are just bigger!!!
@Shit_I_Missed.7 жыл бұрын
the mis-colored cap is likely to be counterfeit.
@TheDutyPaid7 жыл бұрын
Seen photos of fake large capacity capacitors where they are have a smaller value cap and therefore cheaper cap hiding inside the can.
@realflow1007 жыл бұрын
Check the weight of the capacitor. tap it with a pencil or pen or small metal object. If its hollow you will hear it. My 100F samwha brand cap is for sure 100 farads. Lasts as long as two 200mAh NICD's in series when i'd test both of them in my battery powered drink mixing cup. Has even more power too! MAYBE even longer. Impressive and for sure it's 100 farads AT LEAST. And when its charged up to 3.5v like i've done a few times. It lasts for ageeeees I had a 2 farad 16v capacitor and it could barely power a motor for longer than a few seconds. It you could hear and see the motor slowing down quite noticably.. Now this 100 farad capacitor running the same motor. Just kept chugging along and the voltage barely dropped at all. If they feel excessively light or feel/sound hollow. they might be fake. if not. they could be the real thing. You could test by trying to crank a car engine with these. It should give at least 1 good second of full cranking power and start the car successfully..
@Blakehx7 жыл бұрын
Where's the best place to get decent quality supercapacitors at a good price? Thanks!
@milenedejong14005 жыл бұрын
hi julian , can you tell me what dc dc regulator you are using here. it seems to have a battery protection circuit. perfect for my project. greetz
@natealexander37217 жыл бұрын
where did you purchase the boards, capacitors and leds that were used in this video?
@jarkkoaitti2877 жыл бұрын
Am I right that this pack has a total 3Wh capacity (about 1 AA-battery), so for example you could run a europe legal e-bike (250W) "full throttle" for 43 seconds? that could be a nice help for 1-2 short uphills. Of course one would need to efficiently convert voltage for example to 48V(/5A) for a typical motor (just a guess) and be able to do so even when voltage drops from that 6*2.7 (16.2) towards zero as i think it does with capacitors.
@skyoreece98057 жыл бұрын
there will be a slight capacitance difference in most electrolyte types. there's nothing to worry about. if never shore use a cap tester to test them individually. good video keep up the good work
@iPelaaja17 жыл бұрын
Has the weather been any nicer during the last couple of days? Been very sunny today and yesterday in Wales
@enriquesalgadoaceves90177 жыл бұрын
Great job, from sunny Cancun
7 жыл бұрын
I have been playing with similar setup for years now. But I have not think of leds as indicator, good one I tell you. Thanks!
@simonmasters32957 жыл бұрын
Go the whole distance and put volts, amps and time sequence logging onto the capacitor bank?
7 жыл бұрын
I only had cheap 10W solar in parallel to capacitor bank. Great thing for inline solar for 12V usage without batteries. I even did some spot welding with it this stores amazing amount of amps.
@djemdjam50997 жыл бұрын
Thanks Julian.
@armanflint5 жыл бұрын
Do you know of any gizmo or another way to wire that would distribute the current equally to each capacitor?
@robviolin15 жыл бұрын
Very helpful, thanks 👍
@MegaJames8887 жыл бұрын
I read in my instructions on the ones I purchased you are suppose to charge and discharge these several times before using...
@jasonharrison255 жыл бұрын
I have a bank of 6 Maxwell 3000F caps in series as my "battery" in my TDI. Starts strong but doesn't have much reserve capacity. Have a 20 watt solar panel on the roof to keep it charged when not used for some time
@catothecensor5 жыл бұрын
Jason Harrison capacitor should be summed in parallel, not in series
@mark86647 жыл бұрын
You Brits turn out some awesome Electrical Engineers!
@simonruszczak55637 жыл бұрын
And other types of engineer.
@ericcaira733811 ай бұрын
This panel can put out close to 100 watts kzfaq.infoUgkxOqI2yqX0XVrhR2BMJciTWrHJpG8FhJyg when positioned in the appropriate southernly direction, tilted to the optimal angle for your latitude/date, and connected to a higher capacity device than a 500. The built in kickstand angle is a fixed at 50 degrees. Up to 20% more power can be output by selecting the actual date and latitude optimal angle.The 500 will only input 3.5A maximum at 18 volts for 63 watts. Some of the excess power from the panel can be fed into a USB battery bank, charged directly from the panel while also charging a 500. This will allow you to harvest as much as 63 + 15 = 78 watts.If this panel is used to charge a larger device, such as the power station, then its full output potential can be realized.
@TheAwesomeHomestead4 жыл бұрын
What would you need to use one of these with 2Kw solar?
@howardescoffery49505 жыл бұрын
Respect brother not lying your video postings are top a top very detailed neatly explain I bet if I had a wife even she would understand the way you explain things though. Now brother my question can this be added to a solar battery bank? to ease the load draw off the batteries?
@pixels303at-odysee96 жыл бұрын
One thing about capacitors, static charge volume is based on the distance between layers. When you put them in series, it may increase the maximum voltage, but it will exponentially decrease capacity. Batteries do not suffer from this aspect.
@copyandpastification6 ай бұрын
Thank you, excellent video
@ralfboecker36465 жыл бұрын
i wonder what aplication is this good for ?
@ralfboecker36465 жыл бұрын
@wu ming quite good for short time outage + granting time for safe system shutdown... However, super capacitor voltage is not constant, so need a wide range converter. Long term UPS will use lithium storage today, instead of lead acid battery no longer ➯ need compare prices & performance...
@alexermerson7 жыл бұрын
Other than the high discharge rate capabilities of super-caps, what is the benefit of using them over much higher energy density lithium ion cells?
@user-cr4pz5yg7y2 жыл бұрын
None. The two should be used together. Caps are quick to balance voltage, but by themselves are quite limited. I think of them more like a workshop assistant. The battery is the ole man and the cap as the plucky assistant. Neither is great, together is exceptional.
@howardescoffery49505 жыл бұрын
My brother my batteries in my solar setup in getting old currently I can not afford new ones and I am thinking of using some capacitors to combine with my batteries to help them with the load. My question is can this be attach to my battery bank and what would be your recommendation?
@slybunda5 жыл бұрын
how much milliamps was that solar panel outputting in the overcast day?
@obversiveKen5 жыл бұрын
they are typically 1-3 amps depending on the age of the solar cell... average 2
@PhaQ25 жыл бұрын
How about a 2.4 volt zener diode in reverse polarity, and a 3 volt led to burn off the excess power. As a cheap and easy capacitor balancing management system? I know any amount of real amperage being conducted through a simple system like this will burn it, but that is only on the charging portion. It should not effect the output side in any way.
@offshoreman715 жыл бұрын
Do you have the part number of the capacitor bank please.
@alanpowell3287 жыл бұрын
Hi Julian, Obviously we can't actually see the PCB tracks but I was thinking that you had soldered the LEDs to two ground points! That would be a magical change in laws of physics. Kind Regards Alan
@BillyNoMates19747 жыл бұрын
Just thinking about your circuit above and my own solar charger, I am wondering if a simple buck boost converter was inserted between the Solar panel and the super capacitors would actually charge faster ? The only obstacle would be the buck boost converter would need to handle a dead short for a short time (when the super capacitors are empty). my idea above removes the need to limit to clamp the top charging voltage (buck converter does this) and in the worst scenario when the capacitor is dead, the voltage would come up a lot quicker . Idea's anyone ?
@daveyhi31546 жыл бұрын
you'd lose about 10% of the power from the inefficiency of the converter. He really should use a real solar charger for max efficiency.
@mimic585 жыл бұрын
any info on the 2 pcbs you're using?
@nishiter7 жыл бұрын
amazing stuff are these Super Caps...but any use in practical life?
@martinvollderpro4 жыл бұрын
Car battery alternative
@georgeorralljr.36647 жыл бұрын
thank you Julian
@FilipeDGuedes7 жыл бұрын
actually, that's 500F divided by 6. these capacitors are in series, the voltage is multiplied and the capacitance is divided by 6.
@okan36445 жыл бұрын
Multiplied, or added?
@chrislp82935 жыл бұрын
83,3 F is the hole capacity
@carlmarshall45775 жыл бұрын
I believe Filipe you got it right!
@demef7585 жыл бұрын
Series capacitors are the equivalent of parallel resistors, so you DIVIDE by 6. This is EE1A.
It may not mean anything, but Julian do you notice how all of the other capacitors are all an equal blue colour and that second one is slightly lighter? Could this be a damaged one? I know when I damaged one of my NIMH cells that it's outer coating became paler than the others, I think it's caused by heating too much. I suspect the second one was damaged or has a design fault that lead it to overheat.
@atheron17767 жыл бұрын
What's the self discharge on these like? Considered replacing the battery in my lawn tractor with supercaps but don't want to have to leave it on a charger or jump start it every week.
@rocketman221projects7 жыл бұрын
Even with high quality super capacitors, you would need to keep it on a trickle charger. The self discharge rate is much higher than batteries.
@EnergySeeker3 жыл бұрын
how did you charge the battery without a resistro in series ?
@FireSwordl7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, "Mad Electron Engineering" recently posted a video about those cheap crappy supercapacitors. But I guess the are good for experiments. I have some too. Thanks for the video!
@TRS-Tech5 жыл бұрын
Hi Julian. A quick question for you..... Do you have a model number or link to that buck/boost module please. I have an idea inspired by your video I want to try and that module will be ideal. Many Thanks.
@christiankulmann33255 жыл бұрын
DC-DC 2V-24V to 3V-30V Step Up CVCC Boost Voltage Converter Power Module 80W www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=Step+Up+%22ZK-S4%22&_sacat=0&LH_TitleDesc=1&LH_TitleDesc=1&LH_BIN=1&LH_TitleDesc=1&_sop=15
@johnbrown18357 жыл бұрын
Hi Julian Enjoy your videos I have a similar kit with Maxwell super capacitors purchased from USA originally to start my diesel ride on lawn mower. They give out a massive surge of power. now not used for the original purpose was considering using to power a ham radio which needs max 13.5 volts what output was the board you used to Power the bulb is this an off the shelf circuit? Thanks again for the great videos Best regards JB Sydney Australia
@daveyhi31546 жыл бұрын
these types are readily available dirt cheap. his is fancy overkill. search ebay or anywhere for 'buck converter' or 'buck regulator'
@carlmarshall45775 жыл бұрын
What are the board used for these caps?
@kevinjames55107 жыл бұрын
Could just be the tolerance of the resistors in that particular protection circuit. Check them!
@bravocobar7 жыл бұрын
capacitor can only hold short duration current compare to storage power from battery
@TKomoski7 жыл бұрын
You might want to swap some components around on the board. That might give you a better understanding of the component limits or charge value. Cheers
@sscoconut12656 жыл бұрын
I'm planning for an ocean wave energy harvesting device for undergrad thesis.. Which is better storage for energy supercaps or batteries?
@audi33184 жыл бұрын
Seeing as wave power is constant, wouldn’t it make sense to forget storage?
@jovmars47167 жыл бұрын
Nice Piece of Work.. Trying Help the Community Again The Power Hoarding Capitalist Keep it Up...
@bloodyl_uk7 жыл бұрын
Any reason why you soldered to the board rather across the last resistor as you did with the other supercap bank?
@JulianIlett7 жыл бұрын
Because there was some accessible copper near the edge of the PCB - don't think there was last time.
@bloodyl_uk7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the reply. :)
@yourmama96745 жыл бұрын
I thought led placement was a great choice
@balthromaw63055 жыл бұрын
Dear Julian, Could you possibly share where you purchased the DC to DC buck/boost converter from? I am needing one in the worst of ways for a tube amp project
@yourmama96745 жыл бұрын
Can't find for sale on the world wide web?
@floydwallace32802 жыл бұрын
This is a question, when replacing a bad-capacitor off a box fan is it necessary that I replace it with the exact same capacitor?
@childtvm-tvm-8371 Жыл бұрын
How can I set up an 80amper 24v battery. how many capacitors or how should the circuit be. I want to set up a warehouse system for my house. Is there any shape or project you can recommend?
@magicer837 жыл бұрын
Maby you can build a small wind turbine? It seems the sun is not in your favour hehe. Keep up the good work and maby oneday you will rule the world!
@petti787 жыл бұрын
Or just continue using the mains outlets available in his house.. :)
@zdw3067 жыл бұрын
so my question is, is it worth the money?
@jonnyc2.0477 жыл бұрын
I have the eBay 32volt dc to dc did u have video on tham
@faded.09137 жыл бұрын
A note of reference capacitors do not retain their values when placed in series. All the caps in series. What you have there is 16.2V @83.333F. Not 500F
@JulianIlett7 жыл бұрын
Farads go down, but Joules go up :)
@faded.09137 жыл бұрын
You should play around using less in series and using buck converters. That's what I used to do on my solar panels. Instead of wasting 36 cells in series I did 10 in series. Paralleled 2x 10 cells with it so I effectively had 10s 30p and boosted up the output to charge my 12v appliances. Re arranging around a 100w solar panel instead of the 5.29A I usually get on a 100w panel with the new arrangement and a buck converter I was getting the same voltage but instead I had about 15A. So same cell amount. Different arrangement. Better output. I don't know why all major companies don't do this
@JulianIlett7 жыл бұрын
Coulombs stay the same :)
@simonmasters32957 жыл бұрын
Hi Julian Nice Video Your style encourages me I think, heeding the safety warnings in comments here, you do need to push the volts. Stored Coulombs go up with the SQUARE of voltage, so overcharging the capacitor pays dividends provided it can be demonstrated to take the charge "safely". Everyone is quick to jump to a conclusion that this cap is faulty, but in fact it might just be that this is perhaps a cap that is from a superior rather than inferior batch. Where is this going? You are not explicit in this video about what your thinking is regarding storing solar PV energy, but I am thinking (a) that the conversion of low voltage at the panel array location, to a higher voltage for transmission to the grid or battery storage location makes a lot of sense when cable costs are considered and (b) RGHxFTW is on the right track...
@35matinee6 жыл бұрын
What does that mean?? The title, mistakenly was "500Farads". It is not!
@TheKickBeck5 жыл бұрын
Hey julian, will any type of led work connecting to the protection circuit
@JulianIlett5 жыл бұрын
Blue or white is best.
@jimthvac1006 жыл бұрын
I bought this same solar capacitor module on Ebay. I tested the capacitance and it ended up being about 67 Farad. meaning 400 Farad each. I looked up the date sheet on these green cap Supercapacitors and it said there is a 20% tolerance so 400 Farad is within that. They all held there charge for a good amount of time except for One. I told the seller about it and they agreed to refund me $8.00 for the one bad capacitor that self discharged rather quickly. There was another one that was not as good as the other four but decided to leave it. I ordered another brand capacitor to replace this bad one. I feel it is a crap shoot when ordering these. I know those small black 120 Farad caps you can buy in a module are all junk the one I bought self discharged to 1/2 voltage in less than an hour. Mr. Julian uses one in some other videos.
@yourmama96745 жыл бұрын
Try making your own
@usuariu10247 жыл бұрын
I wonder how impressive a catastrophic failure would look like with one of this capacitors.
@twintersx5 жыл бұрын
These are in series right?
@mikelacross6 жыл бұрын
Where did you get it from & how much?
@morpher446 жыл бұрын
for fall/winter, be thinking Thermal Electric Generator (TEG).
@Sagacity616 жыл бұрын
Isn't the capacitance 500F OVER 6 (83.33F) since they're in series ??
@obversiveKen5 жыл бұрын
closer to 60 with all the semiconductor voltage drops - just saw a good video on it here... kzfaq.info/get/bejne/q61oftedsdrGhnk.html
@OffGridAussiePrepper7 жыл бұрын
oi oi oi julian, them 2.1mm dc connectors cant handle more then 3 amps b4 they blow the contact(on my lot from china), does ur do the same thing and will u do a amp draw test?? or something?
@chrisneeds61253 жыл бұрын
Who did you buy the capacitors from?
@SolarizeYourLife5 жыл бұрын
What are the voltages of the capacitors? Isn't the voltage for the solar panels higher than the capacity of the capacitors? Are you going to do anymore with this because you didn't really put a load on it so you're not really doing much work....
@blieuroi33775 жыл бұрын
excelent sir, thank you share vidio
@JunPTechnician3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing sir new supporters here
@linksmith10577 жыл бұрын
You should make yourself a small wind turbine to charge things up on cloudy days, you have plenty of wind if the buffeting against your mic is any indication. Also a solar charge controller works perfectly fine on a turbine.
@SetchiPaunda Жыл бұрын
Solar charge controllers input DC correct? Wind turbine charge controllers input AC 3 phase correct?
@martinhermann41085 жыл бұрын
Can you share your bill of materials and block schematics?
@MichaelOZimmermannJCDECS5 жыл бұрын
Please do explain what this contraption is for! What do you want to achieve?
@yourmama96745 жыл бұрын
You don't see how this could be useful?
@CollinBaillie2 жыл бұрын
I feel a new Super Capacitor PCB design coming on!
@willproctor73017 жыл бұрын
Would love to SMD leds to make it neat, It's a shame that these boards don't come with them as standard. (edited, I really need to watch these to the end before commenting :))