Supercharged MX-5 - Is the BBR MX5 worth it?

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0:00 - Welcome to the BBR MX-5. First thing...
0:48 - BBR MX-5 ND Supercharged 0-60
1:23 - Stage 1 Vs. Stage 2
2:08 - Other essential upgrades
3:06 - It feels... it feels amazing
3:51 - About BBR GTi
5:13 - How much does a BBR Conversion cost?
5:55 - Why you shouldn't buy the Porsche
6:47 - It's fantastic
8:50 - Next up... 1,600 MX-5s!
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This video shares Everything You Need To Know About The BBR MX-5, a SUPERCHARGED MX5 with up to 250hp!
Tim Watson drives the the BBR MX5, a modified mx 5 miata with a difference. So what is the bbr mx5 supercharger kit? Our Tim tries the bbr mx5 supercharger, a kit available for the bbr mx 5 nd in bbr mx 5 nc super 225 stage 1 and bbr mx5 nd super 250 stage 2 versions.
Is this modified mazda mx5 Better than the Boxster? We find out with this bbr mx5 review of the bbr mx5 kit.
BBR make plenty of conversion kits for the bbr mx 5, including the bbr mx5 nd stage 1 turbo 2.0, bbr mx 5 nc, bbr mx 5 turbo, bbr mx5 turbo kit, bbr mx5 nc turbo, bbr mx 5 rf and many others.
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Want to hear the sound of a mazda mx5 modified exhaust? There is plenty of that in this Boxster Vs MX5 video.
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@mrporsche4236 9 ай бұрын

Would have this over most porsches

@clkgtr12 8 ай бұрын

me too this over anything below the 911

@OurTim 7 ай бұрын

10 years ago, I drove the Boxster against the 911 and then brand new F-Type. Boxster was, hands down, best one of the three. You could enjoy it completely every day and not feel like you were missing out on anything, or like you weren't near the car's full potential. This little MX-5 felt the same.

@mrporsche4236 Ай бұрын

Main problems with porsches. If they just rear wheel drive which most of them are they have no steering control over about 140kmh. Like no steering zero. The gear ratios are far too tall not enjoyable.Pre 2005 engines run too hot. They are just too unreliable too expensive to buy and maintain. Mx5 has none of those issues and is alot more engaging and alot more fun. Thats a fact not an opinion. Some porsches are beyond special most are terrible

@aerotus888 10 ай бұрын

Awesome car and video. Thanks!

@miniscenesgb 10 ай бұрын

Love the car - even more impressed by your filming, editing and presenting skills

@jeff8ball 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for the vid!

@876yuugt 9 ай бұрын

Great video

@Ambryu1 9 ай бұрын

I'm a little mad at B.B.R right now because I AVO turbo charged my nd mx5 and paid them for a tune to get my car running but it ran horribly, I loved their big cams 200 kit but if your not running everything that they offer they are reluctant to help you.

@andrewstevenson6540 8 ай бұрын

I'm sure that's a great car but so is a standard 1500 nd. Best car I've ever owned and I've had cars with more than double the power.

@sjdyt 2 ай бұрын

I want one! Had a standard NC and ND-RF. I need some excitement back in my life.

@OurTim Ай бұрын

You know your NC... kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gJ2fo7x_28jQmZs.html&lc=UgwV5ChrXGRm8dbgMlR4AaABAg

@michaelbaker9590 9 ай бұрын

Excellent video alot of money though would go for an arbarth 124 spider or a GB Sportscar kit car built in Nottingham . Would love you to do a video on them

@OurTim 9 ай бұрын

Thanks! I’ll reach out to them 👍

@jamesjdm1982 5 ай бұрын

What is the size and offset of the wheels?

@2donuts273 Ай бұрын

I'm saving up for a used ND..til then I can't really comment much.😅 But it does have all the looks and possibly might become all time classic like its brother the FD3S.

@OurTim Ай бұрын

Keep saving and I'm sure NDs will come down... or you can get this kind of performance for a lower price with a NC... kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gJ2fo7x_28jQmZs.html&lc=UgwV5ChrXGRm8dbgMlR4AaABAg

@airooter 3 ай бұрын

I get 0-60 by 6.3, without killing my transmission. If I do it harder, I could get 5.9 without any tunes.

@MegaWayfarer 10 ай бұрын

And what about the number of complaint I am reading on forums? One chap is complaining about a cam knock post super 200 conversion. They are not patient enough to answer pre sales questions. You don't want to be having to be going back to them after every niggle especially if your travelling long distances to get the job done.

@OurTim 10 ай бұрын

Honestly, I can’t answer that question but there are plans for more BBR content in future and I am more than happy to put these kind of questions to them. My channel is honest and real, nothing faked. If there is a genuine question to be asked, I will always go the extra mile to get an honest answer.

@carsandguitarss 2 күн бұрын

Mazda commissioned them?

@airooter 3 ай бұрын

Another point - the supercharger and other charges eat stock transmissions like I my eat my breakfast :) So, worth it to spend 7.5k and then rebuild a transmission\or buy a new one? Don't think so. Use stock power, it's more than enough

@BoostedNDMiata 7 ай бұрын

I don’t know about the Supercharged versions but my BBR Stage 2 Turbo ND1 makes >300 whp @12.5 psi. Worth it? Definitely!!

@OurTim 7 ай бұрын

"Smile so much bigger!"

@venomking3602 5 ай бұрын

You turbo lovers always watching supercharge videos

@timsgta 4 ай бұрын

Better watch that transmission hope you had work done

@Peertje1982 Ай бұрын

No gearbox problems?

@SashaNaronin Ай бұрын

What did you do to make sure your transmission survives that? I know a few ND owners and they almost all have that issue

@ianbradley2153 10 ай бұрын

Have a 25th anniversary edition with a bbr 200 package but stage 2 SC is defo in my future

@OurTim 10 ай бұрын

Hopefully you enjoyed this video and it inspired you!

@johncrofts6058 6 ай бұрын

i got the 25th AE, fully forged , turbo, running a safe 320bhp. Makes you smile!!!

@dg7438 4 ай бұрын

Nice! Do they sell to the states?

@reinaldo8787 3 ай бұрын

Just get the hks gt2 kit in the US. It is basically the same.

@dg7438 3 ай бұрын

@@reinaldo8787 Thanks

@boguszniewiadomski1040 10 ай бұрын

I would worry about not very robust for extra torque ND gearbox

@OurTim 10 ай бұрын

Maybe. I’m sure after 7 years of development and hundreds of conversions, BBR would have found that issue and offered a fix. I really doubt they’d set customers up to fail like that!

@thierrylerinckx1340 8 ай бұрын

Yes that's the only thing that would hold me back from getting this. The gearbox hasn't a stellar bulletproof reputation. Especially in the early Nd versions. Wonder what the experience at BBR is?

@mattguerra82 8 ай бұрын

I also looked into that. The solve is to replace it with the NC transmission - and it seems like BBR already offers that in their website

@MidLoafCrisis 8 ай бұрын

When I was getting my NC1 fettled there was a another customer with an ND who had exactly this problem with his gearbox... That has really put me off them, plus I'm too tall

@MegaWayfarer 6 ай бұрын

@@mattguerra82 My NC2 gearbox is the weakest link. When I purchased it I had change the gear shift guide before which made it almost impossible to select second from first. That fix was a 70% improvement. When I talked to BBR they said it is a known issue and it would be a waste of money trying to fix instead proposing a brand new box costing 3K.

@kristianmiles156 10 ай бұрын

Is there any way of getting this set up landed in Australia?

@OurTim 10 ай бұрын

I can't speak on behalf of BBR but they do sell it as a DIY kit if you are handy with the spanners or know a good mechanic?

@kristianmiles156 10 ай бұрын

@@OurTim thanks Tim. Definitely I’m not that handy with the old spanner but it’s definitely worth looking into!

@OurTim 10 ай бұрын

@@kristianmiles156 Worth looking into the costs for sure, when you contact BBR, please let them know about this video 👍 if there is anything else you want to see or know, let me know!

@njw7255 10 ай бұрын

👍

@azzman73 9 ай бұрын

Classic "with a wheel at each corner"

@OurTim 9 ай бұрын

By that I mean there is very little overhang thus weight is all kept within the wheel base of the car. Greater overhang - I.e. wheels not quite at the corners but further inbound - can impact the handling, especially the cornering ability. It’s a overly used cliche yes but there is some reasoning behind it.

@joewildwest2241 2 ай бұрын

did you notice the steering wheel is on the wrong side

@OurTim 2 ай бұрын

It is, quite literally, on the right [side]... 😉😉

@EdA-bz3bu 4 ай бұрын

my wife has owned boxsters and miatas and *she laughed her ass off* when she herd they "rather have the miata".

@elbukiss 3 ай бұрын

Prefiero al miata, definitivamente

@thisguyovahere6692 3 ай бұрын

Would love to do this to my recaro but it's just £££'s 😢

@OurTim 2 ай бұрын

Yeah but think of the smiles....

@thisguyovahere6692 2 ай бұрын

@OurTim I dont doubt it, I've heard that the earlier ND's have gearbox issues so a bit dubious.

@OurTim 2 ай бұрын

It’s a running theme of the comments here… maybe BBR should let me test one over a longer period 😉😉

@MiniClubman-tv7nt 2 ай бұрын

They always mix up the numbers… Its 0-100 kmpu (62 mph) 7.3 sec not 0-60 7.3 sec. And they compare it with a 0-60 after the tune. Thats a big difference because u cant get to 62mph in second gear. U have to shift to third gear. And that cost u at least another 0,4 sec. Because the gear box really sucks, u cant shift quick with that crappy thing. I drove first year with 160pk, than tuned and drove a year with 210pk bbr 200+ and now 9 months with 265pk bbr 200+ stage 2 supercharger. The latest tune is slower to a 100kmpu but so much faster 80-200kmpu compared to the 200+ bbr tune. And it hoses gasoline so much more. Im empty after 300km on 35 liters full tank. The character did change, i have a vtec feel starting from 3500 - 6800 revs a minute. Would i do it again ? Nope i would buy an elise and get a vtec engine. The nd has an annoying air restriction and an ecu that still controles everything. The car is to digital to my taste. I have a 2016 nd and bought it in 2019. It got a second gearbox cause the first completely shattered after 55k. Its the latest nd1 version box (4th revision). If u have any questions just ask.

@hellaacapella 9 ай бұрын

As much as I think overpowered/ swapped monster Miata’s are absolutely bad ass… from a realistic standpoint I just don’t feel like the chasis, rivets, weld points, bushings and other components, especially the tons of plastic would withstand those repeated kinds of forces and stress…

@miner4236 8 ай бұрын

it's 220hp, not 450. I doubt the chassis cares, but just my opinion

@OurTim 7 ай бұрын

The car didn't feel any way stressed with 250hp. Felt OEM 👌

@hellaacapella 7 ай бұрын

@@OurTim that’s good to know!!!

@miner4236 7 ай бұрын

@@OurTim any intel on reliability ? Looking for around 250-270hp too eventually

@OurTim 7 ай бұрын

@@miner4236 only things I heard were gearbox issues - the NC is a stronger unit from what I've heard

@itaybutavia1204 9 ай бұрын

from experience Rotrex supercharged have A lot of problems

@OurTim 9 ай бұрын

Interesting. BBR said they spent 7 years developing this conversion so I would have thought issues would have been found by then. They don’t seem the company to want to do bad on their customers.

@itaybutavia1204 9 ай бұрын

@OurTim I had 2011 mx5 nc2 with Kraftwerks supercharged...only 30,,000km and the super dead But any way good luck to you

@OurTim 9 ай бұрын

@itaybutavia1204 oh dear, sorry to hear that, and thank you, hope you enjoyed the video 😊

@itaybutavia1204 9 ай бұрын

@@OurTim ❤️

@venomking3602 5 ай бұрын

Maybe because your not taking good care of them because alot of other ppl don't have problems

@markzawada5927 4 ай бұрын

You got it wrong when you said bbr spent 7 yrs developing the sc kit . They did nothing of the sort they purchased the design & rights from corten miller when they went bust back in 2021 , it was them who developed it so don’t give the credit to bbr.

@OurTim 4 ай бұрын

That was quoted directly from BBR. Do you have a link/source for your info? Happy to add this insight to descriptions and future videos 👍

@markzawada5927 4 ай бұрын

I don’t have a link but am sure if you google corten miller super charger installations there will be some info floating round on the net , I was ready to have my nc converted by them when they went under , once bbr took it over I intended to have them do it but the price went up significantly so I decided against it . Anyone in the mx5 community will confirm the facts also. Plus if you type in corten miller sc mx5 on here I’m sure you will find vids of converted cars which you can compare the engine installs to confirm this also. 👍

@OurTim 4 ай бұрын

@@markzawada5927 good man, I’ll take a look

@becauseiwasinverted7971 4 ай бұрын

I can confirm that as well. Looked at the corten Miller stuff which then became BBR branded when they took over. You can buy it all from rotrex anyway in the US. BBR did not develop this for 7 years, but there is prob 7 years from CM selling the kit. No way it was developed for 7 years before first customer sale either. To the point about this being cheaper to run than Porsche, I'd say depends on how long you keep it. £30k Porsche boxster residuals will be much better than a modified 8 year old ND sport recaro.