Frieren - Writing From an Alien Perspective

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Superdude

Superdude

Күн бұрын

Hello and howdy. This is a video discussing Frieren and other elven characters from Frieren: Beyond Journey's End, and how their alien perspective on the world as an elf affects their world, what they excel and fail at, and how they interact with others. Hopefully this character analysis proves useful to those interesting in making characters that comes from different species, for Tabletop role-playing games, general writing, or whatever else y'all get up to. Hope you enjoy!!
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Chapters:
00:00 Intro
05:33 Ep. 1 & 2: Establishing Frieren's Perspective
08:29 Zoltraak
10:02 The Non-confrontational OP Shonen Protagonist
11:26 Kraft
12:00 Serie
14:19 The Mage of Peace
16:04 An Aside on Headcanon
17:16 Flashbacks & Empathy
19:33 Frieren vs Human Mages
21:06 The Human's Strength
22:52 The Demon Exception
23:38 Tricks & Flowers
28:07 Conclusion
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@DarwinAwardWinner
@DarwinAwardWinner Ай бұрын
My favorite tidbit about the portrayal of time in Frieren is that the thousand-year montage in Episode 10 is almost exactly 100 times as long as the half-second rapid-fire montage of the heroes' 10-year journey, thus visually showing the audience how "a mere 10 years" feels compared to 1000.
@Elena-tj3so
@Elena-tj3so Ай бұрын
I remember that thinking how abrupt that flash of images felt on first watch. What a brilliant portrayal of what "a mere 10 years" feels like.
@jaideepshekhar4621
@jaideepshekhar4621 Ай бұрын
That is actually so COOL! 😮
@ocfos88
@ocfos88 Ай бұрын
This video made me realize that Himmel has seemingly stayed single his entire life, having likely understood that Frieren would take a while to understand the implications of him giving her that ring back in the day. Or maybe I'm reading too much into that detail.
@superdude10000
@superdude10000 Ай бұрын
Given how subtle most of the writing in BJE tends to be, it wouldn't surprise me if that was intentional. Good shipping material, even if headcanon, tho.
@DarwinAwardWinner
@DarwinAwardWinner Ай бұрын
Almost certainly he never dated anyone besides Frieren. He realized he couldn't romance her in the present, so he laid the groundwork for her to understand his love for her in the future, through statues and rings and flowers, on her own timeline.
@bhig3
@bhig3 Ай бұрын
Read the manga! There's a whole arc
@superdude10000
@superdude10000 Ай бұрын
@@bhig3 my fiancee doesnt like when I read manga about stuff she ALSO cares about because I'm "reading ahead," so I'm trapped here. I have this same predicament with Kaguya and Jojo :(
@Raidanzoup
@Raidanzoup Ай бұрын
I wouldn't say you're reading too much into it, this is a very popular interpretation even in Japan. (Source: JP youtube comments, of course)
@rustgrime9897
@rustgrime9897 Ай бұрын
Serie's the ambitious young adult elf that is lonely because she also has noone to share the joys atop the peak of magic. She acts harshly to her students not because she doesn't appreciate them, but because she hates that they all die too fast. Her sharp intuition tells her that they would've gotten to her level and maybe even surpass her if they had the same lifespans. Kraft's the adult elf whose lonely because all of his heroic deeds and fond memories have been forgotten by time. As he grew old, he turns to religion to have the Goddess as a sort of immortal friend that he can share his life moving forward, and one that will remember it all once he too dies. Frieren is the young elf that steered her way out of loneliness because unlike Serie and Kraft, she's had the chance to learn about relationships through the Heroes' Party. Himmel is truly pivotal to this elven problem. He taught Frieren to be kind to others and to cherish the moments she has with them. Through this, Frieren opens herself up to a lifetime of making friends and valuing their lives instead of worrying about their eventual death. Oh and the statues he left behind for her doesn't hurt, too. I love this show man.
@Ryodraco
@Ryodraco Ай бұрын
I find the idea that Kraft is older than Serie to be hard to believe, since she is implied to have lived in the Era of Mythology, the same time period when the Goddess of Creation walked the world. Yet, Kraft notes he spent much of his life not believing the goddess ever existed, so he must have been born after that time period (or somehow never saw her during it). Body type may have more to do with the individual elf than with how old they are.
@cirnotheicefairy3609
@cirnotheicefairy3609 Ай бұрын
@@Ryodraco or perhaps during the time the Goddess was with them, Kraft simply thought of her as this "Weird neighbor that led a religion and taught strange magic to those blessed enough to make use of it." Only realizing the worth of her teachings later in his life.
@Ryodraco
@Ryodraco Ай бұрын
@@cirnotheicefairy3609 maybe, but weren't his words "I need her to exist"? Doesn't seem like he witnessed her existence, in which case he might say "I need her to be who she said she was." Plus, his big adventure was recent enough that while people have forgotten the names and other specifics, they do still know the statues depict ancient heroes who saved the world, and oral traditions like that can only stay intact so long. The statues are also in pretty good condition (i.e. if they were ten thousand years old they would be a lot more worn I assume, just look at how much the pyramids have eroded in like four thousand years).
@ScottEvans-vj7ns
@ScottEvans-vj7ns 4 күн бұрын
No reason why you'd think kraft is that old
@l33tminion
@l33tminion Ай бұрын
Serie is such a fascinating character, a mage with this Machiavellian view of magic as raw power, but with an eidetic memory of countless spells that are clearly not that, from an era where magic was viewed very differently. The portrayal of Serie's complicated relationship with her academic descendants is absolutely brilliant, and it all ties into the world-building and themes of the show so well.
@2triedforthis830
@2triedforthis830 Ай бұрын
She’s such a contradicting character and I fell in love with her for it!
@benjamingoldstein9156
@benjamingoldstein9156 Ай бұрын
I am not sure that Serie truly has a Machiavellian view, but her view may be antiquated (given the prevalence of demons in the past, it may have been merely a means of self-defense). she is a very complicated character that shows a lack of self-awareness that is delightful even if one doesn't like her personally.
@batangbatugan
@batangbatugan Ай бұрын
It's also a great parallel to Frieren who's initially distant and didn't find the importance in getting to know more about humans, but she remembers a lot of mundane small stuff people said and did because she's a great listener and actually is very emphatic.
@andyknightwarden9746
@andyknightwarden9746 13 күн бұрын
@@2triedforthis830 Hypocritical is what Serie is. She just doesn't understand that yet. Makes her kind of fascinating.
@andyknightwarden9746
@andyknightwarden9746 13 күн бұрын
@@batangbatugan Empathetic, perhaps, is what you mean?
@batangbatugan
@batangbatugan Ай бұрын
I think the real power of the show is that it constantly reminds us to be kind to one another, to treat others the way we want to be treated. Sure, you're having a sh*tty day, but the guy behind the cashier must be having an even worse day than you, so it wouldn't hurt to be nice, patient, and say "thank you" with a smile. That one simple act of kindness may be enough to put a smile on his own face, and last him through another day. THAT'S what we need now more than ever.
@nashwinston1395
@nashwinston1395 Ай бұрын
I’d like to propose featherless bipeds to replace humanoid.
@00101001000000110011
@00101001000000110011 Ай бұрын
and then you run into races with 6 limbs etc that ruin your attempt.
@nathan3827
@nathan3827 Ай бұрын
pretty sure aarakocra are humanoids though
@Badepfropfen
@Badepfropfen Ай бұрын
I see what you did there and I think your suggestion is ideal. A Platonic ideal, if you will.
@martinstensvehagen9161
@martinstensvehagen9161 Ай бұрын
Throws a defethered dead chicken on the floor
@danielgintinks1608
@danielgintinks1608 Ай бұрын
BEHOLD, A MAN! - Some ancient homeless guy
@DarwinAwardWinner
@DarwinAwardWinner Ай бұрын
I liked your aside about neurodivergence. I don't assert that Frieren is neurodivergent, because she's not human and we don't know what "neurotypical" would mean for an elf. But I still say that she is good representation for (a specific point on the spectrum of) neurodivergence, because of all the reasons you gave in the video. In fact, Frieren as a character feels more representative of my own hue of autism than literally any other character I've ever seen in fiction, even the ones that are explicitly presented as autistic. I joke that at least once per episode, she says something I've said to my therapist (although to be fair sometimes that something is "I'm going to eat cake").
@Sarx-vw5oq
@Sarx-vw5oq Ай бұрын
Frieren is atypical for an elf but more in a traumatized way than a neurodiverse way.
@RowanElliss
@RowanElliss Ай бұрын
I came here to say something similar. We can easily call her neurodivergent if our standards of neurotypical are based on criteria for humans. But given that the audience is (presumably) human, it's easy to see Frieren as someone who is living in a world where everyone's norms are so different from how she operates and relate to her as a neurodivergent person.
@pizhhhout
@pizhhhout Ай бұрын
Ok yeah, this is one of the best video essays about Frieren on the platform. I’ve watched most of them. Good work.
@RoseyRobin
@RoseyRobin Ай бұрын
Agreed, this is definitely one of the best I've seen as well 😊
@RowanElliss
@RowanElliss Ай бұрын
My go-to example when I'm trying to explain the premise of this show/character to someone is when she and Fern stop by a new town and Frieren is like "I like it here, let's stay for 10 years" and Fern has to be like "that's 1/6 of my life. You get 6 months".
@Archflip
@Archflip Ай бұрын
I really liked your analysis of Frieren and yeah, as a DM, I too like the worldbuilding and how it influences the characters. Funny to hear about your all-elf party being younglings though. Maybe it is the DM in me talking, but I think I always end up playing elves (though I am usually just lukewarm on them in media) due to the benefits of using time as as a tool and usually make characters that are like 300-500 years old. To constantly ask if my character has heard of this before, seen this before, etc. is so invaluable. It feels like a cheat code. Like the korean manhwa trend of regression as superpower. (It's also cool how you relate to Frieren as an autistic person. tbh, I feel like almost all non-human characters that end up confused at understanding human society get low-key autistic representation, but that's neither here or there. What's important is that you feel represented emotionally.)
@Dudex11a
@Dudex11a Ай бұрын
Looking at these comments, geeze. You've developed a really affirming and constructive comment section / community, it's really impressive
@Dudex11a
@Dudex11a Ай бұрын
Also great video! You made me think about the show in a different way that I really appreciate
@kaguya6900
@kaguya6900 Ай бұрын
Nice video. I can't say that I agreed with everything, but it was a lot more entertaining than a ton of cookie-cutter "Frieren is great"-style videos I've seen lately. Good job. Oh, I have a kid on the autism spectrum, and you may have given me a bit of insight on why my kid likes Frieren so much.
@Matthew_Murray
@Matthew_Murray Ай бұрын
Out of all the Frieren analysis videos on KZfaq (and I have basically seen all of them because I absolutely love the manga/anime) this one is definitely one of the top 5 best.
@Abi_B1989
@Abi_B1989 Ай бұрын
I 100% agree that Frieren could be neurodivergent, as someone with both ADHD and Autism, I really can see and relate a lot to Frieren. Loved the video, and was very very helpful. Thanks for the effort and knowledge 😊
@timoth4529
@timoth4529 Ай бұрын
Third comment by me after watching the video and man, this was awsome, your perspectives and way of looking at things is really amazing and very enjoyable, glad you had as good of a time like me. Also as a German.. your pronounciation was good enough. Its not like the show does a particularly better job at pronouncing it.
@jannegrey593
@jannegrey593 Ай бұрын
I'm gonna say that for Japanese show - pronunciation of German words in Frieren is at least much above average. Probably depends on how much time VA's had to prepare. But this is general "problem" (not really a problem, more like characteristic) in Anime and with Japanese language. It is hard to not add "u" at the consonant ends of words for Japanese person. And pronunciation here was good enough. "Khaaft" bit was a bit funny, but IDK all the regional dialects of German.
@timoth4529
@timoth4529 Ай бұрын
@@jannegrey593 The show uses exclusively Standart German, or at least I couldnt spot any Dialects
@timoth4529
@timoth4529 Ай бұрын
@@jannegrey593 Well I presume for the perspective of a japanese speaker german is more easily to pronounce then english because our words are more phonetic, however there also just certain sounds in german that simply do not exsits in japanese as it is a laguage based on sillybels.
@jannegrey593
@jannegrey593 Ай бұрын
@@timoth4529 Show yes. When it comes to pronunciation in this video - not the Anime, I thought that maybe the way he pronounced Kraft was a bit odd but it might be from some dialect I don't know. Most people criticize me for writing very long replies, so I tried to be very brief and it sadly impacted how readable is my comment. Apologies.
@timoth4529
@timoth4529 Ай бұрын
@@jannegrey593 Oh I c dont worry ^^
@PhabioTheHost
@PhabioTheHost Ай бұрын
Serie is such a tsundere. Constantly attacking others and calling their efforts meaningless of calling them failires. All becaose they are too embarrassed to admit they care, or to show any weakness to another.
@FantasyCat1
@FantasyCat1 Ай бұрын
No, Serie is actually forcing herself into not caring, not cooling others but herself. coz she has lived way longer than frieren and effectively has taken on dozens of Ferns, that have all died through the ages, she can't get attached. And her attacking Frieren is the same as not getting herself caught up in her memories of Flamme.
@masterstylez6960
@masterstylez6960 Ай бұрын
23:01 as i was watching this i literally said out loud "except demons", I'm happy the script didn't let me down in that moment. Liked and Subscribed.
@Raidanzoup
@Raidanzoup Ай бұрын
I've seen people use "Enlightened/Cultured races" because it's a divider between "wild beasts" and "people", but that can turn ugly really quickly. It's all in the execution, though. Really nice piece on Frieren, thanks.
@ARStudios2000
@ARStudios2000 9 күн бұрын
I just use "sapients" because thats the big hallmark of what makes a person a person irregardless of what they are; no matter their personality or standing, ultimately sapiency is the mark of what makes someone a thinking being
@anicrue
@anicrue Ай бұрын
This was the push I needed to start watching Frieren. Thank you. I only got to episode 7 before wanting to finish this video, but I think it was worth it, both binging the first few and watching this.
@therealforestelf
@therealforestelf Ай бұрын
I'm having a blast with this channel here, the nonchalant way to tackle neurodivergency is absolutely amazing and I adore you for this!
@kickflipindi
@kickflipindi Ай бұрын
I watched your last anime video about the shift in romance anime and decided I would watch the next anime video you put out, so here I am! And what a good choice. I love this show, but I haven't watched any video essays about it besides the one that convinced me to watch it because I feel like it's so good, there's not much to say about it besides how good it obviously is. But you came at it from such an interesting angle. I'm a sucker for literary criticism and analysis and I love the way you broke down the perspective and literary devices used to bring the audience into that perspective. Like I experienced but I didn't notice the way decades passed in literal minutes from the audiences point of view, but then after Himmel dies, Frieren slows down and so do we. We don't really even slow down to the storytelling pace we're used to until the mage exam arc starts, which is where a lot more new humans are introduced, which works with Frieren's character arc. It's really fascinating, and is an amazing reference for creatives working on pace and perspective. I also think sharing this video would be a great way to get my friend who doesn't think she'll like frieren invested enough to watch it. Great video! 10/10
@letmebee-jpeg
@letmebee-jpeg Ай бұрын
This video was great!! i loved your reflections on the characters and themes, it was very interesting! this video definitely stands out,
@Aaron.Garner
@Aaron.Garner Ай бұрын
I just wanted to chime in and say two things: this video is the reason i ended up watching the show (which was incredible!), and also you did a great job in this video! So, thank you in both counts!
@fancyman3206
@fancyman3206 Ай бұрын
excellent video dude! you had a really great script and pointed out alot of things that i felt like i never noticed about frieren at all lol
@KemptonLam
@KemptonLam Ай бұрын
Nice edit and use of footage. Good writing. Nice delivery. Keep up the good work!
@ionamorwenna5564
@ionamorwenna5564 Ай бұрын
This is such a great essay about such a great story.
@Fibless
@Fibless Ай бұрын
man youre really good at making these videos, I wish i could make my thoughts on things even half as coherent as you do
@00101001000000110011
@00101001000000110011 Ай бұрын
good video! both in takes of the show, and the observations regarding imagining alien life.
@Razeacc
@Razeacc 2 күн бұрын
15:40 In the story I'm writing, I like using the term "Sentient" for humanoids in my setting. Maybe it could be of use to you? I'm not sure, just thought it might help
@00101001000000110011
@00101001000000110011 Ай бұрын
sapiencianoids/sapianoids i think is the best term to coin. what all humanoids share, is sentience and sapience. it is not the shape that binds us all, it is our ability to think, feel and do this at a complex level
@martinstensvehagen9161
@martinstensvehagen9161 Ай бұрын
yeah, maybe we should just stop categorizing out of human like or not. and just go with sapient or not. Humanoid brings with it the idea that there is something superior with being human like. But I personally never looked at the Elcor from Mass effect as lesser, just because they happen to walk on all four. and I personally want more fantasy people that are less human like honestly. The star trek idea of aliens gets old IMO
@00101001000000110011
@00101001000000110011 Ай бұрын
@@martinstensvehagen9161 i think Star Trek's aliens being more or less human like is not an idea created out of anything else but budget and prop limitations. to make the show the best it could be, it was a good compromise. Star Trek isnt a novel, or a game, or similar medium works with more creative freedom than serialised shows in decades past. and 'humanoid' definitively comes from a perspective rooted in human notions and establishes how another being relates to our way of being. this isn't necessarily something negative however. i understand we use the term in the context of fantasy and scifi, but regardless of the fictional genre, we still operate under our reality's perspective. we are humans, what we experience is a human perspective. so in abstract matters, non in-world of fiction, using the term is proper and harmless. just limits possbilities if we ever do encounter other ways of life to exist. but for in-world terms on these fantasies and scifis i think its stupid how they haven reached a more effective term.. authors are lacking.
@HillHand
@HillHand Ай бұрын
Frieren was the first series to remind me of the books Belgarath the Sorcerer and Polgara the Sorceress. You get a tiny slice of the some of the same vibes in the game Massive Chalice, but overall I feel like the experience of actually living for millennia is very underexplored in fiction.
@SwordTune
@SwordTune Ай бұрын
Demons: Can't help but see humans as prey, butchering without care as a human might butcher cattle. Frieren: Suppresses her mana. Demons: "What a disgusting perversion of magic."
@poptre67
@poptre67 Ай бұрын
thanks for breaking down the show like that I really agree with you here. im really glad we all got to see this great adaptation being made and im excited for another season :)
@matthewglenguir7204
@matthewglenguir7204 Ай бұрын
Been waiting for a good Frieren essay
@revenger210
@revenger210 Ай бұрын
i truly love how Frieren establishes time passing as so ephemeral and the perspective around it all. I feel there is an element here to be analyzed and compared with how Jon Bois' 17776 handles long lifespans and the passage of time, tho the two works come from diametrically opposed perspectives. Whereas in Frieren, it is a single character that is effectively immortal compared to her world, 17776 is [spoilers for 17776's central premise] 17776 is the whole world being actually immortal, and our newly awakened character whose POV we follow trying to understand why everything has slowed down and become so silly and with such lack of urgency. They feel like companion pieces, like two facets of the same coin, and idk i wanted to voice this thought out in the void :D Great video btw, would love to hear you talk more Frieren, and i hope you enjoy Dungeon Meshi as well - i ended up starting it last weekend, and from what spoilers i've caught (since idc about it) online on tumblr, it's gonna be a real interesting story!
@DiamondRocket13
@DiamondRocket13 Ай бұрын
I've not much to say, but I loved this video a lot, fantastic work!
@be1tube
@be1tube Ай бұрын
The other alien species well-portrayed is the demons. They have their own perspective on meaning. (I expect to see more of their perspective next season with Macht of the Golden Land and Solitär - who grapple with understanding the human perspective.)
@voidbehemoth
@voidbehemoth Ай бұрын
Very good video! I highly recommend reading the manga if you haven't already. Future arcs go into more depth on demons and the world itself.
@dolphinpower1107
@dolphinpower1107 Ай бұрын
Love Frieren, love the anime, read the manga and it only gets better. Your spot on about how basically any part of the series warrants analysis, personally I love the world building and it's portrayal of demons.
@frierency
@frierency Ай бұрын
great video!
@linarili7957
@linarili7957 Ай бұрын
Amazing video
@adamwebster1666
@adamwebster1666 9 күн бұрын
Probably the only non-combat non-destructive spell Flamme taught to Frieren, and the most impactful and important one of them all. Not only is it the spell that saved young Himmel and caused him to seek out Frieren and leading to the death of the demon king, it also put Frieren on the path toward sympathizing and understanding humans, though it took 1000 years to bear fruit. Season 1 literally revolves around that spell. Nice to see a creator acknowledge it.
@xmst5
@xmst5 Ай бұрын
Nice video! as for the mic suggestion the Shure MV7 has the ability to run just off USB (no audio interface needed) and is like the little child of the legendary Shure SM7B.
@johnjohn-up2pu
@johnjohn-up2pu Ай бұрын
I believe you mean she was a “prodigious child” not a “prodigal child”😮
@superdude10000
@superdude10000 Ай бұрын
Dammit.
@SanjiTyloxion
@SanjiTyloxion Ай бұрын
Noice. Loved the video. Dungeon Meshi video when? Lol but in all seriousness. Really appreciated Ur take on Frieren and I'd love to see you do one on Dungeon meshi for other stuff even if it is also another hot topic. Anyways take care and take your time on Ur next one.
@mikeheiser3728
@mikeheiser3728 Ай бұрын
I'm not German, but I liked the video as soon as I heard you pronounce "Kraft" like that lol
@varees707
@varees707 Ай бұрын
The scene at 3:56 for some reason is one of my favorites, i dont know why i just love how Frieren looks at Fern and then smiles.
@JosephReference
@JosephReference Ай бұрын
U make good neutral anime videos. I love perspectives from different eyes on something i like
@MahiMahi-yu5jo
@MahiMahi-yu5jo Ай бұрын
22:00 Serie loved all her apprentices. She's just hard pressed to define that love from a human perspective
@dennisstewart7085
@dennisstewart7085 Ай бұрын
Good video bro Keep it up
@Starlit_Juno
@Starlit_Juno Ай бұрын
you have not watched it yet bro
@dennisstewart7085
@dennisstewart7085 Ай бұрын
I like it already 😊 And to me, that makes it a good video.
@SwordTune
@SwordTune Ай бұрын
Never underestimate the power of instant clean clothing.
@tsk5328
@tsk5328 Ай бұрын
from about 7:00 to about 7:19 one think I like about that as the climax of episode one is meteor showers are infrequent and, especially, in a medieval world possibly unpredictable. this moment matters to her for reasons you mentioned (maybe) but also because the phenomenon happening might not happen again for a long time...even to her.
@timoth4529
@timoth4529 Ай бұрын
Cant wait when you will read/watch dungeon meshi
@RoseyRobin
@RoseyRobin Ай бұрын
I feel so vindicated that I'm not the only one who saw neurodivergent traits in Frieren and Shouko Komi from "Komi Can't Communicate" 😄
@fwicket
@fwicket Ай бұрын
I think the spell the clone used on Fern at the last battle is a curse Frieren somehow learned, and she also used a powerful curse to counter her clone. Due to there constant one up attrition strategy. Thinking outside my lane here.
@nin0f
@nin0f Ай бұрын
About the “humanoid” word: me and my dnd party did some worldbuilding back in the day and came up with our own word “xiom”. It means “a sentient creature that has a soul”, so not only does it apply to humans and elves, but also gods, titans, dryads, dragons (if they are not just bug lizards of course) and so on. The etymology of the word comes from our two custom gods: Xi - the great god of Ideas (with the capital i), therefore all knowledge, the thinking process, etc; and the second god is Om - he is a great god that came up with the idea of souls, therefore, all of the sentience (the main component of which is feeling). So a dog is not a xiom since it can't think, even though it has a soul and goes to dog heaven. On the other hand an automaton or some kind of golem is not a xiom because it doesn't have a soul; but if your automaton works because of the soul contained in it, then it is a xiom.
@cefcephatus
@cefcephatus Ай бұрын
Of course, staying in KZfaq till the end will grant me a cookie, the browser cookies to be specific. You've made a good point about the writing of Frieren. But I want everyone to notice that, Sousou no Frieren is the title of the Franchise, so "Frieren the Slayer" is in fact the title that Japanese see before even knowing what the genre of this story should be. So, having that in mind, and the fact that they hide the power of magic to deceive demons, this story is a mimic trap to action adventure stories on the shelves. I didn't read the novel, only read manga and watched the anime. But I think, this story is a little bit hilarious if you got that knowledge.
@be1tube
@be1tube Ай бұрын
The translation of episode 8's title as "Frieren the Slayer" is odd to me. Maybe it would make sense to a native speaker. 葬送のフリーレン is the title but 葬送 means funeral (more relating to the full process from body preparation to the post-cremation gathering than 葬式, another word for funeral that focuses on the ceremonial core - more what I'd translate as funeral). So the full title of the series is Frieren's Funeral/Funary Arrangements, not Frieren the Slayer.
@cefcephatus
@cefcephatus Ай бұрын
@@be1tube Yeah, Netflix translate it to Slayer. But the one manga translator translated it to Funeral. I think, you're right. But I find it hard how to make sense in English, so I don't do with Funeral.
@Xeidji
@Xeidji 20 күн бұрын
>never have been stuck around to see it (aging) > Flammee: bro u good?
@CrimsonMey
@CrimsonMey 20 күн бұрын
My laundry basket agrees. Fern chose the best spell!!! I will go full Ubel to get it.
@Astoria_Varanus
@Astoria_Varanus Ай бұрын
I feel like there was a good point to be added, that you didn't mention. We actually do know how the technique faired against the demon king. Serie tells one of her apprentices that "the only other being who saw through Frierens technique with a single glance was the demon king". Not only was the technique innefective, it did literally nothing.
@witec83
@witec83 Ай бұрын
15:50 I generally use the term "Logi" or "Logikos" as a stand in for "humanity" (depending on the context) that's less boring than "sentiants" to discribe any being in my worlds that has human-like sentience. Examples of use would be "Regardless of their logi" instead of "regardless of their humanity" and "logikos rights" instead of "human rights". I generally don't use it to describe body characteristics, I think it's perfectly reasonable to use terms like elvenoid, dwarfish, hobbity and humanoid because the beings within the world would still have those as descripters to indicate similarity to beings to which they are familiar.
@skiing4everPS3
@skiing4everPS3 Ай бұрын
All the three houses music has me a different kind of nostalgic
@loayzc10
@loayzc10 Ай бұрын
I think it was mentioned that the demon kind saw through Frierens suppression
@bhig3
@bhig3 Ай бұрын
On the point about demons... Please read the manga. Macht is a great in depth look at how they work
@auran5
@auran5 Ай бұрын
agree with Fern, Prestidigitation is totally my favourite spell in DnD. clean everything, make small noise or image or even non magical item. A smart player could do much with it
@platonicvulpine
@platonicvulpine Ай бұрын
I don't recall the show's actual lore on this point, but I really enjoy the idea that demons are intelligent, but not conscious beings. Kinda like in Blindsight ^^
@timoth4529
@timoth4529 Ай бұрын
Oh god I almost missed this one.
@TheNerdyHomestead
@TheNerdyHomestead 13 күн бұрын
As far as mics go, the way its recorded matters almost as much as the type of mic. 32-bit float recording is what you need to recover peaking
@wizcatcheslightning
@wizcatcheslightning 25 күн бұрын
For mic: Shure sm7b with a cloud lifter installed between the mic and your audio mixer. Elevated my loud voice to greater, more quiet levels
@dreiacosta
@dreiacosta Ай бұрын
Flamme's favorite magic is Druidcraft Fern's favorite magic is Prestidigitation xD
@ironbar2009
@ironbar2009 5 күн бұрын
9:05 FE music hit so hard
@TerrinX
@TerrinX Ай бұрын
My suggestion is "Immanity" from No Game No Life, really it's just a fun alternative
@Sarx-vw5oq
@Sarx-vw5oq Ай бұрын
The first class magic system and series control of magic association is only about 50 years old. The defeat of the demon king was probably the reason for her to change her mind.
@zanthe_
@zanthe_ Ай бұрын
3:30 Based and Ren-pilled Also, Mending is a highly underrated spell.
@folcwinep.pywackett8517
@folcwinep.pywackett8517 12 күн бұрын
"I want to grow up to be like you!" - Superdude, and I fell on the floor laughing! The Field of Flowers spell kills the Demon King! For 1000 years after the death of Flamme, Frieren never wears earrings of any kind. When she joins Himmel's heroes party, she starts wearing Red Teardrop earrings and she never takes them off to sleep. Flamme wore Red Teardrop earrings with a little bauble but not Frieren who just wears the teardrops without the bauble. What connection does the Field of Flowers spell, the Red Teardrop earrings, and the Apex of Magic have with each other?
@fenix849
@fenix849 Ай бұрын
I've watched a lot of Frieren breakdowns since finishing the season, this is the first one i've seen that seems to get why it's so great, sure the art style is great and the fights are epic, but Frieren could be drawn with stick figures (or not at all) and still be an amazing story.
@benjamingoldstein9156
@benjamingoldstein9156 Ай бұрын
I think person is the term you're looking for. no matter what species one is they're a person if they are sentient.
@Katwind
@Katwind Ай бұрын
In the third test, she only approved the mages who thought they could beat her or trick her, because she thinks the most important quality for a great mage is imagination. But what about Fern? She doesn't seem to fit with the others in that regard but she also passed the test. It seems Fern being able to see the fluctuation in Sense's magical aura convinced Sense to pass her, but why? I think it was what noticing the fluctuations implied, that she was seeing what was in front of her for what it was and not for what she expected. That shows curiosity (imagination's best friend), and presents Fern as someone who embraces all the posibilities of what can be instead of sticking to just one conception of what has to be. I believe Sense passed her because, while Fern hasn't conceived herself capable of beating her, she also hasn't conceived herself to be incapable of it.
@scmh1288
@scmh1288 Ай бұрын
I use "kithience" a portmanteau of "kith" (friends & family) and "sentience" (the ability to feel) to achieve "the ability to have friends and family i.e. a society)
@Kualdir
@Kualdir Ай бұрын
W vid
@szlingozec8395
@szlingozec8395 Ай бұрын
When it comes to "humanoid" being a very racist term and needing a better one I've been using "rational animal" for years. It's a bit clumsy but it does a much better job expressing what is actually important about the characters or species in question: the unity of reason and physicality. It's not a term I came up with but one I got from studying philosophy.
@TheRealJohnux
@TheRealJohnux Ай бұрын
So if A Cat has an Intellect that makes it possible to reason with it then it counts as a rational animal?
@szlingozec8395
@szlingozec8395 Ай бұрын
@@TheRealJohnux Rational has a very specific meaning in this usage: _The power to obtain within oneself the image of the essence of a thing without any body of that thing (aka. produce and retain imitation forms or "definitions", innately) and to manipulate with at least some degree of deliberate freedom these images in order to generate knowledge about those things which does not come directly from observation of the things themselves._ It is also notable that man (the only animal known to possess reason in our setting) can exchange knowledge through the use of these "definitions" without needing the thing known about to be present or active. If one were to encounter a creature that possessed this power but was in all other respects identical to a cat then that would be a perfect example (pun intended) of a rational animal, just as much a man is. I want to avoid using intellect as a criterion here as (at least in it's modern usage) it has more to do with quantity of processing power than the type of processing being done, which is what reason refers to. I also want to avoid comments about "reason with it" both because even assuming the best faith possible "reasoning with it" is an interaction between at least two creatures not a description of one of them. And more often than not comments about weather people can be reasoned with are just a way to demean those who the speaker either disagrees with or was unable to manipulate.
@TheRealJohnux
@TheRealJohnux Ай бұрын
@@szlingozec8395 not reading all of that right now, im just going to assume it's more complicated And no it does not count.
@TheRealJohnux
@TheRealJohnux Ай бұрын
@@szlingozec8395 okay, after reading, I think I get most of it, so if the cat has the intellect and the mental ability to process than it could?
@szlingozec8395
@szlingozec8395 Ай бұрын
@@TheRealJohnux yes it would. Although it would still count if it only had reason without the intelligence.
@Katwind
@Katwind Ай бұрын
Finally someone who thinks 'humanoid' sounds weird. Personally, I'd go with 'antropomorphic', because even if it means exactly the same thing (man-shaped), it does not explicitly have the word 'human' in it.
@warmachine5835
@warmachine5835 Ай бұрын
If I need something less human centric, I opt for combining "sapience and sentience" since while still related to human-centric concepts, within the human context sapience and sentience can be used for a wide variety of creatures with a wide degree of sapience and sentience among them. But you need to use both, since sapience specifically deals with intellect while sentience is emotions and concept of self.
@FaunoAtelie
@FaunoAtelie Ай бұрын
What's interesting is that the demons aren't really "Evil", their whole deal is that those types of labels don't really matter as long as it gets them to live longer/get food. The veil of sentience and rationality is no more than aggressive mimicry. Of course philosophically the concept does need a great deal of suspension of disbelief, but hey, i think it works
@john80944
@john80944 Ай бұрын
I think Wildbow's Pale, or his Otherverse, provids a somewhat cohesive way/tutorial to make an alien being as a main character. To make an Other, the most easy way is: you deprive a human of their self. Capital S, the Self. The humanity, the nuance of human mind, or the diversity and possibility of human culture. You make a ghost like a real spectral: the Echo of the real person. You make a ghoul, who can't not truly live. You make a goblin, a ugly being being ugly. Or a fae, of beauty and horror. You extent the logics of certain rule to its extreme. So you push the creative process to collective rules and ideas, and digging their possibilities.
@adamwebster1666
@adamwebster1666 9 күн бұрын
Reasonable solution for the “humanity” problem is fantasy I’ve seen a couple places is using kith and kin. i.e. kithfolk to refer to all sentient civilized races, kinfolk to refer to a singular race. e.g. “Your kin are certainly the stumpiest of the kith,” the haughty elf sneered at the proud dwarf.
@pultulf2462
@pultulf2462 Ай бұрын
I saw it the way, that Flamme didn´t come up with the mana supression technique. She must have been tought by Serie. The evidence for that is the amount of mana Serie has compared to Frieren and the amount of mana Flamme has when she found Frieren, which implies that she started to use that technique at a very young age.
@hunrahel
@hunrahel Ай бұрын
Surprised to not see more about the demons in this topic. The alienness of elves here is just living really long; the demons are that, plus the fully alien predatory pov of an anglerfish
@superdude10000
@superdude10000 Ай бұрын
Not really a lot to talk about with them yet. We really only get the one arc from episodes 6-10, and almost nothing is told from their perspective. I already know there is more in the manga, but I'm talking anime only, so more nuanced discussions of the Demon's alien-ness will have to wait for another time.
@hunrahel
@hunrahel Ай бұрын
@@superdude10000 I'm running a close-to-folklore fey campaign in d&d, so this topic is very on my mind, trying to get in the head of a force of nature cosplaying as human. Frieren and the demons are intersecting viewpoints for me.
@tommyeliassen2071
@tommyeliassen2071 Ай бұрын
I think "Sapient beings" is a good alternative to humanoids, as it also includes the much less human ones like Aarakocra and Lizardmen, as well as those that aren’t bipedal like Centaurs. Although I suppose in D&D for example, it could prove problematic given how many devils, demons, undead, fey etc. could be considered sapient
@ResandOuies
@ResandOuies Ай бұрын
My theory on Frieren lack of "emotional development", for lack of a better phrase, is that Elves in this universe develops physically in about same speed as humans, but gain emotional maturity at the same relative speed compared to life span. So Frieren, being only somewhere just north of 1k years old, is still quite young emotionally. Like a human teenager or so.
@Sarx-vw5oq
@Sarx-vw5oq Ай бұрын
What happened when she met flamme and the isolation before she met himmel have a significant impact on how she developed compared to a typical elf.
@dmlr7
@dmlr7 Ай бұрын
what is that game in the outro? also thanks, there are few things that i haven't noticed.
@superdude10000
@superdude10000 Ай бұрын
That's Rocksmith: 2014 edition. It is unfortunately no longer available for purchase, as Ubisoft replaced it with Rocksmith+, a subscription version of the "same" game. If you want to play this game, there are other methods of procuring it that you absolutely shouldn't do because that would be legally questionable, and you definitely shouldn't do that. So to not mince words, you SHOULDN'T look up alternative methods to play the very fun and more feature rich predecessor to Rocksmith+.
@jannegrey593
@jannegrey593 Ай бұрын
Really interesting video. I watched over 100 videos on Frieren in recent months. This is easily in Top 20 (which given how many topics there are to talk about is very high). And would probably be much higher if I only included those that were similar in topic.
@ScottEvans-vj7ns
@ScottEvans-vj7ns 4 күн бұрын
The real life of an elf basically this show
@braendyn
@braendyn Күн бұрын
Hominid, Hominidian form. this is actually per E.E. Knight in his Age of Fire series, which is told from the perspective of sibling dragons.
@akindatallmidget6508
@akindatallmidget6508 Ай бұрын
This is phenomenal
@MinhHuynh-ks5rk
@MinhHuynh-ks5rk Ай бұрын
Honestly, this is such a great video but I am just one to correct that Qual is not one of 7 destruction sages his actual title is Elder Sage of Corruption. The 7 destruction sages are 7 top demons which caused most of the destruction in the time the demon king was still alive. He got the title Elder Sage because he is one of the oldest demons that even almost all great demons know about him.
@NoidoDev
@NoidoDev Ай бұрын
We totally should try to understand demons and their motives. But only to draw the only correct conclusion from that.
@clintonbehrends4659
@clintonbehrends4659 Ай бұрын
15:46 may I recomend anthropoid?
@dard1515
@dard1515 Ай бұрын
Sophont: An intelligent being; a being with a base reasoning capacity roughly equivalent to or greater than that of a human being. The word does not apply to machines unless they have true artificial intelligence, rather than mere processing capacity. Mortality is also a good non-human centric term, but has some existential vibes about it. I'd like to keep it that way, but also have it become the more serious term.
@Adrono48
@Adrono48 Ай бұрын
15:45 Sapiens? Like, Homo Sapiens for humans, Elva Sapiens for elves, etc
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