@@FahimusAlimus superman and flash* when it comes to characters like doomsday martian manhunter and the flash was beat easily. And darkseid if the jla didn't have superman they'd lose.

@@FahimusAlimus superman is the backbone to the JLA martian manhunter with that psychological weakness to fire alone make him just mid tier. The flash could be extremely op but since he have hero boundaries he get shyted on by almost any big enemy. The best is superman and shazam and batman.

@@FahimusAlimus superman literally only use 30% of his strength on his fellow league members. We all know if he decided to go kill mode they wouldn't stand a chance, kinda like when they fight doomsday or darkseid.

But Power Girl is hotter, in my opinion.

Yeah. But Power Girl is underrated even more, I think.

@@alexferrana3979 yeah you maybe right.

@@moneymankkk5797 I know.

@@alexferrana3979 yeah true that.

Yeah, really. I'm not the most knowledgeable on DC, but that's one thing I do know she did first and Superman kinda taxed it. lol

@@infini_ryu9461 yeah it was pretty scummy for dc to market it like that. I liked that she had that ability. It separated her from superman. However if they wanted superman to have it they should acknowledged that she had it first. Maybe they both train together to master it which would give them a chance to bond. Really goes to show that dc doesn’t care about her lol

@@graviton6436 Well, with their new political slant, they care about her insofar that she is a woman and can create their Tumblr Power Fantasy. But for people who know better, she doesn't give a flying shit about human gender issues. lol Modern DC: "We're gonna stick it to Superman. Girl power. Amirite?" Supergirl: "I can literally bench-press a planet. Fuck off."

@@infini_ryu9461 yup they care that she is a woman but not an actual character which sucks. I personally believe she has the foundation to be a better character than superman. I mean I care about her character a lot more than superman. They just keep fucking it up. It’s a shame really

@@graviton6436 I mean, Superman has essentially been portrayed as a boy scout, which is why I haven't really been interested in his character. Supergirl has more tragedy and interesting things going on, imo. Not to say Superman is entirely one-dimensional, but Supergirl's ruthlessness makes for an entertaining character.

Splash: "I swear I won't put this character to outerversal." *5 minutes later* Splash: "All I'm saying is she cracked the anti-monitor. Big if tru. I'm not suggesting anything..."

That is honestly what makes him boring Superman is a Boy Scout and a beacon on good, that makes him kind of boring, honestly Superman as shown in the main continuity is played out, my favorite stories of his is Red Sun it is honestly my favorite

@@juggalox1000 No dumbass that’s what makes him a great character. Being a good person isn’t boring, it’s something to look up to. It doesn’t mean he’s perfect, the whole “boy scout” thing is vastly misunderstood. He reacts to things like any normal person would, he gets sad and angry like normal people do. But that doesn’t change him into someone he’s not, he remains a good person who chooses to do the right thing because it’s right and because it’s kind. You don’t need any other reason than that. It’s not unrelatable to be selfless, kind, and a good person. The fact that so many people think that is part of what’s wrong with the world.

@@juggalox1000 superman being a Good person makes him stand out from all the other characters. Someone similar Vash the stampede makes this character traits look good.

That’s insane

And yet there's still some fanboys who will say Martians or Saiyans are more powerful than Kryptonians

That version is dead

@@FahimusAlimus All out Superman as well.

@@FahimusAlimus Really? I'm pretty sure holding back Superman has beaten her, I think she's even admitted that. Whatever.

@@FahimusAlimus I'm no expert, like I said. But I could've sworn I've seen scans contradicting it. At least I remember scans saying that Superman holds back even when it looks like he isn't. Now that I think of it, I've seen instances (at least one) where Superman beat the entire Justice League, but it may not be consistent.

@@FahimusAlimus I don't think he's the strongest. I just know he has some high ends, and writers like to do the whole world of cardboard idea. That's all. I'm not trying to say anything definitive because saying "I'm pretty sure this is contradicted" isn't really that compelling. For what it's worth neither of us have provided any scans to promote either point, but I'm more than confident you do have the scans you say you do. I agree he can be overrated, though I think most overrated hero in fiction goes to Saitama. I also wouldn't say he's one of the weakest. He's at least stronger than Batman right?

@@FahimusAlimus Sure, I get that he's wanted a lot, but his feats can be all over the place. Depending on the writer he's a jobber or a chad. I didn't use world of cardboard to say definitively, I just meant that it's a common thing writers mention, that he holds back 99% of the time. You probably can refute this, but I remember seeing some scans saying Supes isn't a jobber when compared to high tiers. I remember one of Wonder Woman saying she can't beat him in a straight fight, but I don't have it on hand and I'm sure it's not enough to support my case.

Why is he by far the bench mark? Lol

@@DocGoon superman back hands God himself as superman is beyond all. I witnessed this in seinfield Superman is in the real real world and has all his powers in the real world able to interact and co-exist with real people. This is me poking fun at the God fusion goku wankers

You haven't replied to my previous question

@@limitbreaker5560 I responded to all your questions on the other comment, so idk what you're talking about

@@evolveaxsym9422 aren't you the one who said the Multiverse is high Outerversal??? Lol

@@limitbreaker5560 yes cuz it is, and splash is where I got my scaling and where I heard the idea of an outerversal multiverse in the 1st place.

@@limitbreaker5560 I've actually heard him argue a marvel universe isn't only infinite dimensional but straight up layers into outerversal, so yes this scaling is backed.

They get slept on because the goat superman and batman exist.

I agree. She deserve her video too.

While thats true asf, he still hold back 90% of the time

@@BLACKSTA361 His fight with Darkseid from JLU explains why he hold back

She is confirmed to be stronger than Supergirl by official sources since she has been exposed to sunlight more. She is at least relative to Supergirl and has beat Supergirl before and also fought Wonder Woman.

@Caleb Mayfield did you see YFV's king shark video? The supergirl living in shark's shadow is just my opinion on how much i like the characters, you can relax on the debunk. Cheers

@Caleb Mayfield now you do, my bad if my ambiguous language offended your scaling sensibilities. Have a good one

@Caleb Mayfield word

Not quite. Supergirl is a special case, since she's in the shadow of Superman and will never really get out from it as far as fans are concerned.

WW , Wanda , Batgirl , Lady Shiva , Black Canary , Zatanna and so on .

Are definitely NOT underrated

Same here

Ok

Ok

Tv supergirl is the most overrated characters of all time and comic supergirl might be one of thenmost underrated

@Caleb Mayfield He’s kinda just the standard strong comic book character that isn’t on a crazy high pedestal, I’m sure he could beat several other powerful characters but his energy manipulation could be used to depower Superman hypothetically. If I said someone like Eclipso or the Spectre, they’d be pretty out of his league but Superman is one of the quintessential “strong” heroes that don’t have a connection to something greater. He used his powers to turn off the X-Genes of two mutants then control the powers of one of them, I think he could depower Superman’s cells of solar energy hypothetically.

@@danman101stefan Superman has resisted this type of stuff obviously

@@75_86 was a good reason for it given or was ut just bad writing?

Goku solos 🗿

Toph solos dc she is outerversal

@@colleensiau3056 Ok now that’s downplay lol

@@colleensiau3056 That’s still downplay it caps at multi galaxy

Lobo stomps

Once his thing ends or elaborates more ill use him

Lmao just let me know. Got me and chucks server

Of course he is stronger he is Superman DC is not going to pass the torch to Supergirl ever

Didnt get enough support

Supergirl slaps

Carol stomps

which captain marvel?

@@johnetheridge5833 marvel duh

super girl one shots captain marvel easily

As strong as regular Superman but definitely not as strong as beserker rage bloodlusted going all out Supes.

Hell no!

@@messengermal5298 nope.

@@richardajayi3194 Are you one of those kids who downplay Supergirl

@@ajmorningstar6281 Nope. I just don't think she's on par with Superman.

@@grandcanyon-fu9zt another fodder anime character lol Supergirl solos all anime anyday period

@@grandcanyon-fu9zt Anti Spiral is featless garbage character. Even Batman have greater feats than him

@Will N yellow sun

Stronger than kal? Lol

@@BLACKSTA361 yes that's what I said and she is

@@keithcole8536 ur very deluded. All these characters like shazam, flash, wonder woman and supergirl have all beaten supeman multiple times yet superman is still the strongest out of all of them

@@keithcole8536 look at his track record vs villains or other strong opponents. No one has a better than kal

@@BLACKSTA361 your deluded for thinking shes not

How?

Troll

Are people aren't CAN'T POSSIBLY be serious, Right?

@@goofybutserious4807 how

That's not true