Superman is Misunderstood

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Жыл бұрын

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@dynaguy3
@dynaguy3 Жыл бұрын
I can feel a Superman renaissance coming. People are getting tired of the evil Supermen and are ready for a hero who just wants to help people. An animated series is coming, Superman is finally returning to the big screen with a writer who loves the character, Superman and Lois is great, and people are waiting for a hero like the Man of Tomorrow to reignite their passion for superhero movies and content
@gak1146
@gak1146 Жыл бұрын
That's a pipe dream fanboy. Superman has even more haters now. I would like to thank death battle for being the catalyst that started this all :). I hate Superman and his fanboys.
@alexferrana3979
@alexferrana3979 Жыл бұрын
Haters gonna hate
@davidtrainor9569
@davidtrainor9569 11 ай бұрын
The comics are killing it right now and James Gunn is pretty plugged into them, fingers crossed!
@TheSpaceJockey91
@TheSpaceJockey91 11 ай бұрын
@@gak1146 It's just a silly harmless fanfic "what if" video. It's not canon to either of DB or DC canon.
@friedfrog5447
@friedfrog5447 11 ай бұрын
​@@gak1146Fr.... I hate how they lump Omni-Man, Honelander, and just about every other character similar to Superman who is more complex than he is into "they're just evil superman" Its just a shallow, surface-level take on characters who are clearly way more than just being generic evil supermen And it just reaks of their insecurity
@samuelcoppa874
@samuelcoppa874 2 ай бұрын
8:39 Powerful last line “When I was a kid I wanted to be like Superman, now I only hope I can be like Clark Kent.”
@jackleans2543
@jackleans2543 19 күн бұрын
Brother wrote poetry
@racynemiguel
@racynemiguel 2 ай бұрын
One of my favourite superman lines is when Martha asks if he is eating healthy foods and taking care of his health. Then he answer: - Mom, please, I'm the Superman - And I am still your mother
@thelad5
@thelad5 Жыл бұрын
Omni-Man is definitely more like General Zod than Superman. Alien general with Superman powers viewing humanity as beneath them, planning only to conquer the Earth? That’s Zod.
@fascilime
@fascilime 11 ай бұрын
Absolutely. It tells me immediately that someone never read the comic when they call Omni-Man an evil Superman and it is so frustrating.
@elfascisto6549
@elfascisto6549 2 ай бұрын
Mark is Superman Nolan is General Zod.
@eldorergashev5712
@eldorergashev5712 Ай бұрын
You think Zod is a bad guy? He is just a dude who wants to protect his people. But, the bad thing is he does it no matter what is the cost going to be. Imagine yourself as a kryptonian.
@nicholassgobero
@nicholassgobero Ай бұрын
​@@eldorergashev5712personally, If i was a kryptonian and Saw Zod doing all that i'd be like "..." Because i'd be dead already
@hermionescranny
@hermionescranny Ай бұрын
@@eldorergashev5712 Bro, even for Kryptonian standards, Zod is a bad guy. Why do you think he’s one of Krypton’s most dangerous criminals and so dangerous that he was put in the Phantom Zone by the very Kryptonian council in the first place? He may have had noble intentions of saving his dying race, but his genocidal attitudes towards humans is still inexcusable and entirely evil. I’m sorry but Zod is still an evil guy no matter how much he wants to save his race. Jor-el is proof that being Kryptonian does not excuse shitty behaviour and evil actions.
@guhbruhmaste4557
@guhbruhmaste4557 Жыл бұрын
It makes me sad that people don't understand Superman. He's a compelling character that doesn't get to shine in a lot of stories for the casual audience. He's really cool and down to earth. People think I'm crazy when I say Superman is interesting.
@alexferrana3979
@alexferrana3979 Жыл бұрын
Same. I love Superman as a character and always disagree with his hates.
@arslanbaig1943
@arslanbaig1943 11 ай бұрын
To make a compelling a superman story is to have clark kent/Superman Struggle with something and to show his inner side, inner humanity. Unfortunately, sometimes different creators forgets about that, and just simply give up on him by saying "We don't know what to do with him". This shows how unimaginative they are in storyline wise.
@esthergift8373
@esthergift8373 2 ай бұрын
​​@@arslanbaig1943Right, like superman saved someone from committed suicide, like there is reason to live in one of the comics. They really can't pick up a comic book that gives superman the qualifications and make something! So frustrating!
@nicholashodges201
@nicholashodges201 27 күн бұрын
​@@esthergift8373he's also been sued by a self deleter he saved. That was an interesting fight...
@killbang9945
@killbang9945 Күн бұрын
Snyder superman:💪🗿 , critics superman: 💪🤓 These reviews are misleading, they think the best superman iteration is a avg joe with powers, basically the Super stands for nothing but super power. Man of steel showed superman struggling with things that most people or even other super heroes won't. It showed a completely different character development cycle. Here, Super stands for much more, there're more to it.
@mr.dccomics9018
@mr.dccomics9018 11 ай бұрын
Superman is what he does to help people. Clark Kent is who Superman is as a person.
@mets78
@mets78 Жыл бұрын
I always loved the animated series episode where Clark "dies" in a car explosion while investigating a case and his father said he might have to accept that Clark is dead and he says something like "But I AM Clark Kent! I'd lose my mind if I had to be Superman all the time!" Or a Lois and Clark episode where he says "Superman is what I can do. Clark is who I am". I hate that the dark and gritty craze in the 2000s gave this perception that Superman was out of style or too old fashioned. Meanwhile Marvel is like "Here's a character who's literally out of style, is always sincere and the flag is part of his costume. He's also one of the most popular and coolest live action characters we have"
@MegaMan-bs3oy
@MegaMan-bs3oy Жыл бұрын
I love the fact that he took Martian manhunter home. But left Bruce up there alone 😂
@Jamfrog35
@Jamfrog35 11 ай бұрын
You know Batman, he focuses on work more than any holiday. I mean for crying out loud in Arkham Origins, he was working overtime on Christmas season to stop all the rouges, Joker included
@iwonttellmynametoamachine5422
@iwonttellmynametoamachine5422 Ай бұрын
Well Martian Manhunter has an interest in getting to know humanity and Batman has already seen it.
@bandigustin1038
@bandigustin1038 Жыл бұрын
Zack Snyder and Injustice have done irreparable damage to Superman
@The_Indo_Aryan
@The_Indo_Aryan Жыл бұрын
Henry Cavill is literally the most accurate iteration of Superman
@darthvader5558
@darthvader5558 Жыл бұрын
​@@The_Indo_Aryan agreed 💯
@llllloppppllkiii7003
@llllloppppllkiii7003 Жыл бұрын
@@The_Indo_Aryan Not at all. Not dissing Henry but the writers portrayed him horribly imo.
@HUNTR11
@HUNTR11 Жыл бұрын
​@@The_Indo_Aryan he's an amazing actor and choice for superman but the writing he was given was not a good version of superman
@The_Indo_Aryan
@The_Indo_Aryan Жыл бұрын
@@HUNTR11 Man Of Steel was a masterpiece General Zod was perfect and Superman's grief and rage after he was forced to kill Zod and basically be the last of his kind Jonathan and Martha Kent were especially excellent and Martha telling her son to do what is righteous and that he doesn't owe anything to the world nor is being a hero his duty she trusts him with that much power and that is excellent
@tristanpelkey9109
@tristanpelkey9109 Жыл бұрын
This video perfectly captures the essence of what Superman is. Clark Kent isn't Superman's mask. Superman is the Mask of Clark Kent. He's just a guy who was raised with good values and does his best to help people because thats what he was taught. He's supposed to be a Symbol of Hope and the Betterment of humanity. Great Video 10/10
@gabebartlett9680
@gabebartlett9680 Ай бұрын
I’d say there’s sort of three sides here instead of two, there’s Farmboy Clark, Daily Planet Clark, and then there’s Kal-El Superman Daily Planet Clark is definitely in some ways a mask, Clark is trying to hide in the role pretty clearly. It’s not to the extent of what Bruce does with his Playboy persona, but it’s there Farmboy Clark is who he grew up as and is in a lot of ways his true identity but not fully given he doesn’t tell the world he is Kal-El aka Superman. Kal-El Superman is really in a lot of ways him fully realized and in embracement of both his Earthly roots and Krytonian origins. Obviously he does still hide his identity for private reasons, but Superman is who he is at the core, he’s not putting on a mask or a performance that’s who he is unchained Both Farmboy and Superman are basically both equally him, but just expressed in different environments and circumstances if that makes sense
@RealHyperHedgehog
@RealHyperHedgehog Жыл бұрын
Superman is an interesting character because he has more power than most other people, yet he chooses to use it to help others rather then benefit himself. It’s more interesting to see a character go against the idea that “power corrupts” rather then embracing that idea. I also love the friendship between Superman and Batman.
@friedfrog5447
@friedfrog5447 11 ай бұрын
Superman has no need for money, wealth, food, etc. and being heroic has lead to statues being built of him, people seeing him as the ultimate hero and looking up to him, people throwing him parades... If anything, Spider-Man is more admirable than him.
@iangabrielalcantara7756
@iangabrielalcantara7756 11 ай бұрын
​​@@friedfrog5447yeah that's the point even though he clearly doesn't have human limits he still tries to be human and be a humble person. I'd rather pick a god who is humble rather than a kid who still has a lot of experience to be learned yet and be susceptible to human corruptness
@friedfrog5447
@friedfrog5447 11 ай бұрын
@@iangabrielalcantara7756 what experience do you think Spider-Man hasn't learned? And Superman is succeptable to corruption
@friedfrog5447
@friedfrog5447 11 ай бұрын
@@iangabrielalcantara7756 and Spider-Man also tries to be humble
@wenders5884
@wenders5884 10 ай бұрын
I think both characters are great but it is Superman’s ability to remain humble, calm, and optimistic is what puts him a little higher. Even though he has the power to overthrow the world he doesn’t. He sees the value in humanity and all living creatures in the world. Superman makes it his goal to give people hope. Hope in themselves. He’s not leader he’s a guide to show people how it doesn’t matter who you are, whether you have cosmic powers or a disability, you can still live a good life and help others live a good life too.
@travelingjazzman117
@travelingjazzman117 Жыл бұрын
I want to say this respectfully...I never thought I'd see a *Batman-fan* talk so positively and respectfully about *Superman.* We need more of this in the fandom. Great video!
@welpimf0cked654
@welpimf0cked654 2 ай бұрын
It makes no sense. Like, they have stated multiple times that they both have boundless respect for the other
@arnavpandey5386
@arnavpandey5386 Ай бұрын
Tf? They are the big two of dc batman and superman fans definitely like the other character as well
@thenitpickchannel9993
@thenitpickchannel9993 Ай бұрын
Yeah it’s not like both fans clash over which character is better because they both are good in their own ways. Being a Batman fan or a Superman fan isn’t always a battle of philosophies but also which type of character you PREFER.
@Fllr1
@Fllr1 Жыл бұрын
I wish that the people that wrote the justice leage movies actually read the comics
@xeltanni8999
@xeltanni8999 11 ай бұрын
As a Superman fan, I always get a chuckle whenever someone is surprised to hear a Batman fan talking well about Superman... even Batman fans themselves. As far as I can tell, both camps basically feel about the other like our favorite characters do: Batfans think Supes is a great person but idealistic and Superfriends think Batman is a BAMF but a little self-destructive.
@Giles29
@Giles29 Ай бұрын
In the comics Batman and Superman generally like each other - it is not surprising that their fans would like the other character as well. The two characters don't fight that often - they usually work together pretty well.
@LastBastian
@LastBastian Ай бұрын
BAMF? ...What is that? Other than the noise Nightcrawler makes when he teleports? edit: I think I've guessed it: Bad Azz Mutha-Fukka ....right?
@xeltanni8999
@xeltanni8999 Ай бұрын
@@LastBastian Unfortunately you guessed wrong. It's a common acronym that means Billionaire who needs Adopting because of his dead Mother and Father. But you were close!
@LastBastian
@LastBastian Ай бұрын
@@xeltanni8999 ...wouldn't that be: BWNABOHDMAF ? Lol
@iwonttellmynametoamachine5422
@iwonttellmynametoamachine5422 Ай бұрын
@@LastBastian It's also the Bundesamt für Migration und Flüchtlinge in Germany
@MrOrcshaman
@MrOrcshaman 11 ай бұрын
Best superman was from the DCAU, aka the Timm Verse. That set of shows works perfectly at portraying the best of DC heroes without a lot of convolution and redefining characters for a 'modern audience'. It fits perfectly within its own bubble as a reference for how to portray the best of DC.
@ck_sidekick8306
@ck_sidekick8306 Жыл бұрын
Dude, I have been making thos argument for years and years. "Superman is unrelatable!" Yeah, no shit. He's an alien with god-like powers. CLARK KENT is the guy in the uniform. He's a country boy from Kansas. He has a lot of BIG guns, and NO, he will not hand them over to tyrants. His parents and Lois remind him every day that he is as Human as the rest of us. That's why I HATE the idea of a Supes/WW relationship. And on THAT point: WW is similar. With all of her power, it's mortal men that she gravitates to. Trevor and Bruce. I actually like BnD more than I like CnD Both Clark and Diana can find understanding from the other. That's what makes them great FRIENDS. It's their admiration of the "spirit" and determination of "mere mortal" Humans that drives them to represent the best of Humanity. Clark has Lois and his parents. (Heroes like Steel and Green Arrow and Batman aside) Dianna has known Trevor, and now Bruce. (Other heros aside). The point is, CLARK is relatable. If writers understoid this, and made Superman a side character, the could tell stories that the general public would enjoy.
@shadysif6220
@shadysif6220 11 ай бұрын
I could careless about rural America raised Clark Kent, and I despise his relationship with Lois Lane. His character is relatable. It's just so, so, cliche and boring. Characters like Martian Manhunter, Doctor Manhattan, and Doctor Fate are astronomically more interesting, I'd even take Bizzaro over him. Let Doomsday take him out permanently. It would make better universe.
@Crimsonlord-mc5ss
@Crimsonlord-mc5ss 3 ай бұрын
​@@shadysif6220Get help kid Such hatred for a fictional character is genuinely concerning Also Superman is not boring, you just never a an actual good comic about him
@shadysif6220
@shadysif6220 3 ай бұрын
@@Crimsonlord-mc5ss That's a logical fallacy. Try again. Preferably without allowing your emotions to get the better of you. If you can't, I understand. We all have limitations.
@Crimsonlord-mc5ss
@Crimsonlord-mc5ss 3 ай бұрын
@@shadysif6220 my emotions were out of genuine concern, I have not seen such hatred for characters who committed mass genoc*de.Superman, a person who just wants to help other because he likes making people's lives better Just read the Superman quest for world peace comic it's free online Just because someone is not relatable doesn't mean they are boring
@mxn4719
@mxn4719 Жыл бұрын
When it comes to live-action, the latest movies might not completely understand Superman, but I think the tv shows do him well. Both Smallville and Superman & Lois have great adaptions of Clark Kent. The E-38/Prime Superman isn’t done too bad either
@Neutral_Tired
@Neutral_Tired 12 күн бұрын
To be fair to Clark, Santa canonically exists in the DC universe. He invades Apokolips every year, breaking through all their defences, just to deliver coal to Darkseid
@samsonaiyepada5581
@samsonaiyepada5581 11 ай бұрын
If you can't be superman, be Clark Kent
@ElectrostatiCrow
@ElectrostatiCrow 7 күн бұрын
There's a Starman waiting in the sky.
@snowowl01
@snowowl01 Жыл бұрын
cynicide: posts me: time to watch all his videos again
@DUNKIN_DEAN
@DUNKIN_DEAN 11 ай бұрын
I think the world needs Superman now more than ever. I hope he gets some writers who understand the character, and he makes a comeback.
@Johnadams20760
@Johnadams20760 Жыл бұрын
you are so right. that is why Christopher Reeves is the best superman live action ever, and the best thing currently is Tyler (well the guy in superman and lois) they seem to get him pretty well. btw. i have always said for many years. superman is different. that Superman is actaully the mask and clark kent is the hero. Superman was literally the only major superhero who doesn't hide his face. . also, many writers try to say he is like the story of jesus, however, that is actaully incorrect /wrong. Superman is much closer to the story of Moses (he was written and created by 2 jewish guys afterall) so think about it. moses and superman both were born an put in a vessel of some kind to another place they were not part of. and they both grew up not being who they were supposed to be born as and moses also loved family/peole etc.. oh and one thing you said in the video. Superman still believes in santa . well. that is because superman IS santa . think about it. On christmas day, santa must be able to carry the weight of something like 500,000 lb of presents, whom would have the strength necessary for this? superman (he did move the moon several miles in a few seconds in superman 4) santa delivers presnets in 24 hours all over the word to what 300 million houses? the speed required to do this would be insane. well in superman 1 we see clarck flying around the world 8times per second. he has the speed to do it. also the decelration and accelration of such things at these sppeds would kill most. but superman is invulnerable. santa knows whan you are sleeping, knows when you are awake. superman has telesopic/xray visions as well as super hearing of the entire world. he can preform these feats. Superman starts with S, Santa starts with S, their alter egos are Clarck Kent and Chris Kringle/ CK/CK where does santa live? the north pole. Where is the fortress of solitude? The north polle. Also. superman even stops and rescues cats from trees and so forth. his kndness and love of all are similar to sanat and who do you think santa does the other 364 days a eyar? reight?
@cambodianz
@cambodianz 11 ай бұрын
Superman isn't misunderstood. The Character has been around for over 80 years and there isn't a singular and "correct" take on the character. All the versions you laid out at the beginning are perfectly valid takes on the character. To take your argument to it's logical (and false) conclusion, every panel and frame of Superman that wasn't directly produced by Seigel and Shuster is "wrong" and the same principle applies to Batman. Different artists, writers, directors, ect. are all going to have their own idea of what the character is and does to create new stories. The reason Superman is known as a character who flies is due to the Fleischer brothers not wanting to animate a character who leaps everywhere he goes (as per the contemporary canon of the character), so they made him fly instead and because people liked it, it stuck. The same goes for the emotional portrayal of Mr. Freeze, a character who was fundamentally changed into a completely different person and archetype, again by animators. And because that change of the character was beloved by the fandom, it replaced the previous incarnation. And even then, over the years, that character has shifted slightly as different writers and cartoonists have explored him and there's no reason why that character can't fundamentally change again with a different creator giving their interpretation. Pop culture characters aren't "definitive", Adam West's portrayal of Batman is probably the most 180 degree portrayal of Frank Miller's character in The Dark Knight Returns, yet both are fully valid.
@StareachValcin
@StareachValcin Жыл бұрын
Great video analysis that shows an understanding of who Clark Kent aka Superman is as a character and as a hero.
@RRTNZ
@RRTNZ 11 ай бұрын
Great video, and I agree 100%. People who say "Superman is boring. Superman is overpowered, and Superman is unrelatable" don't really know anything about Superman. Man of Steel got a lot right, but also a few key things completely wrong. When you look at him as a person, he's way more ordinary and relatable than Batman. DC occasionally finds writers who do get Superman, Grant Morrison, John Byrne and, proving to be the best, Mark Waid. The JL animated series definitely got Batman, Superman and all those characters right. It isn't even that hard, it's just that stupid people, in positions of authority keep getting the wrong people to make Superman films ( well, since Richard Donner got him perfect in 1978 - I saw that movie when it came out, as a 7 year old and it made me a Superman fan for life).
@44excalibur
@44excalibur 11 ай бұрын
I think Smallville did a good job of understanding Superman. Tom Welling nailed it.
@caldeandrade69
@caldeandrade69 11 ай бұрын
A lot edgy guys love the idea of a "Punisher-type" hero. An Anti-hero. Or a straight up villain. We need more heroes like Captain America, Superman and Nightwing in media. Someone who brings hope. Someone we can look up to.
@matthewtartt9422
@matthewtartt9422 Ай бұрын
You sound like a child.
@DSnalomega
@DSnalomega Жыл бұрын
I always wanted to be like superman when I grow up but now I realize I've just turned into darkseid the difference is just that I'm mortal weak and coward . And I would love you to look at metro man as well.
@thealternativelook
@thealternativelook Жыл бұрын
I have to say it's really sad to see in some of the comments a lot of people think Zack Snyder's Superman is genius. Just objectively speaking, and if you were to read some of the source material, you would realize that Zack Snyder's Superman is objectively the polar opposite of what Superman should be. I think here in the west our society has gone so downhill that we have to look up to characters that are so tragic and beneath us for us to enjoy them, but the point of Superman is that he's a role model and a person who's supposed to be better than us. We're supposed to aspire to his ideals, his morals, his kindness and his fairness. Superman does need to be deconstructed or killed for us to care about him, he just needs to be a kind, polite man who shows us that there's always a better tomorrow. Superman is actually a very simple character but people just over complicate him. Characters like Batman, Spider-Man and a lot of marvel characters are driven by tragedy. One specific moment happens in their life that then projects them to become superheroes and it's usually a tragedy. Superman is driven by love and kindness because he was embraced by love and kindness by the Kents. And in a Superman story he can have conflict. He can question his morals sometimes. But above all else, we know he's going to do the right thing and show us a better way. I think the real reason people don't like Superman is that they're intimidated by him in some way and take out their insecurities on that character because deep down they know they'll never be like Superman. Just the harsh truth but I genuinely believe that. Because Superman is actually very similar to a character like Captain America and Spider-Man and yet people like those characters. So what's the problem with Superman? Well nothing. I think Superman has just been so misrepresented in the media over the past 10 years that people stopped caring about him. There's room for all different types of characters, tragic characters and characters who are embraced by love. There's nothing wrong with Superman and there's nothing wrong with the tragic character like Batman. There's room for all forms of storytelling and different types of characters. Not every character needs a tragic back story. And I don't think Superman needs to be driven by tragedy for us to like him, and I think that's the one thing Snyder got wrong.
@worlds_greatest_detective5198
@worlds_greatest_detective5198 Жыл бұрын
Underrated comment
@gak1146
@gak1146 Жыл бұрын
No, Superman is better than you. Don't project your insecurities on others. Superman is a boring OP Mary Sue. With that post, I could see some one as weak as yourself needing someone like Superman. Superman fanboys are vile people.
@esthergift8373
@esthergift8373 2 ай бұрын
Completely agree with you! You hit the nail right on the head! Your comment os clearly underrated, cause like you said yourself nobody would admit they don't like Superman knowing they'll never be like him!
@Loptr-17
@Loptr-17 2 ай бұрын
I don't agree :/ A character is loved and interesting for people when it's relatable. We need to see something real in the stories we read/watch about, in order to appreciate them in a deeper way than just "wow, that's fun". An incorruptible Superman is not relatable for mature people, because when you stop being young and naive you understand that no one is really incorruptible. This world and its pain are able to destroy every man's soul, if that man is unlucky enough. Superman is great just as long as he reminds us about the best of humanity. But if he becomes like Jesus and he simply stops being curruptible, then he stops being relatable... he stops being human, because all humans are complicated and their ability to be good is precious just because staying good is not a simple path for them. There is no humanity or reality-connections in a character which is simply flawless and meant to be good in ANY situation. It works with religion, not with a story about a superMAN. The most important lesson we can learn from Zack Snyder is that everyone can fall (even Superman, even Batman with his no-killing rule) and that's exactly the reason why fighting against evil is important. Snyder's movies did not want to just show a kind man flying around like "life is easy, and there is always a solution for every situation" ... he wanted to make us think how a REAL Superman would be in OUR REAL world. What would a kind man like Clark do when a situation has no solutions? Cause you know, that's how reality works, sometimes there is not a "right" choice to be made. And a character like Clark kent can't be really relatable if he lives in a universe whose writer always saves the day giving him a way out from difficult situations, in order to allow him to make the most morally satisfying choices. That universe would be completely different from our universe, cause our reality doesn't work like that. Snyder's Superman is not different from the Superman you all love (maybe he's just a little less happy, because he has to deal the sadness of our reality during his life, and he doesn't live in a happy fairy comic book)... it's the world he lives in to be different. Cause that world works exactly as our world does, and it forces him (just as our world forces us) to make his choices even when there is not a simple way out
@03Pii
@03Pii 2 ай бұрын
@@Loptr-17you spamming the same comment over and over again won’t help your point
@BlenderInferno
@BlenderInferno 15 күн бұрын
He is the starman waiting in the sky truly
@iamsemjaza
@iamsemjaza 11 ай бұрын
Superman has a certain level of "tactile telekinesis" which extends lines of force over greater area to keep things like planes from just crumpling on contact with him.
@kelvaris1
@kelvaris1 12 күн бұрын
You are 100% correct. The worst part of watching Superman, is the bad writers who despise him.
@MartsVODs
@MartsVODs Жыл бұрын
I couldnt ever really be compelled to like the super hero stuff, then again the stories have been motifyed, rewrite, retried, and retconned so many times.. superman, batman, wonderwomen.. their all like.. nearly 70 years old now, no property stays good for that long. Im happy that people can still enjoy stuff like this, just not for me. But very good case study, incredibly informative.
@Megamanlanprime
@Megamanlanprime 11 ай бұрын
I personally love Superman and so much feel exactly what your saying. The reason those don’t work as Superman Critques is because they just aren’t anything like Superman. They are like modern “darker Superman” but not like actual Superman. Whenever I hear a discussion about the best Superman movie I always say “Superman vs The Elite” because you get to see Superman, not just as a “Jesus figure” or just some brute but having to deal with a real moral question of is the world to “dark” for Superman? And more to the point - Should Superman just kill his enemies? And the story flat out says No and let’s us really dig into the mindset of Clark and why he’ll never give up and never stop having hope for humanity and for a brighter future.
@Jamfrog35
@Jamfrog35 11 ай бұрын
IKR? Imagine a live action scene with that type of story, now that to me would be fantastic. is it preachy? yes, but that's the point!
@GGGyes4764
@GGGyes4764 2 ай бұрын
“When I was young, I wanted to be Superman. Now I can inly hope I can be like Clark Kent” Beautiful
@14debanjan
@14debanjan 24 күн бұрын
The fans of "Man of Steel" would never understand Superman, as well as what Snyder got so wrong about Superman. He is a compassionate and empathetic character in the first place, in any of his fight with another super being he would try to take the fight as far as possible from any city or populated landscape, so that it doesn't harm people or property. But nah, Snyder is ok with showing Superman casually destroying things around.
@Mr.Crrtss
@Mr.Crrtss 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for this study of Superman! I grew up with this character inspired by the matured humanity expressed via George Reeves interpretation on the television series. However, I was truly surprised to learn that ,originally, as conceived, The Uberman was a villain. Thus these" flawed" adaptations I find compelling juxtaposed to the ideal we strive for. Once again, thank you for sharing this study, and triggering discussion...❤
@williambrown6185
@williambrown6185 Жыл бұрын
If you want a great representation of Superman, watch Superman and Lois.
@lexofpower2822
@lexofpower2822 Жыл бұрын
Yup! I need to catch up to the show, but I love what I’ve seen!
@patrickmiano7901
@patrickmiano7901 Ай бұрын
Yuck!
@angelshadowofficial9218
@angelshadowofficial9218 25 күн бұрын
Personality wise I think Christopher Reeves Superman nailed it. At the end of Superman 2 when he put the flag on the capitol and told the president he’d never fail America again gives me goose bump just thinking about it!
@JustaLuni
@JustaLuni Жыл бұрын
I never vibed with Superman but I agree on the getting no rep aside from animated movies and comics
@Amereedom
@Amereedom Ай бұрын
Well Done! I am so joyful that you put the Christmas episode in this!!! It is the one episode that I understood myself to be the one that allows every writer to understand that Clark Kent is Clark Kent who happens to become and be called Superman. It is probably my favorite episode. That Clark is so excited and runs to this father shouting that he always gets to turn on the Christmas tree - that a man so powerful, a man who has seen dozens of aliens - he is one himself standing in a room full of aliens, Watchtower or his home, it is the most joyous moment in many of these stories; he revealingly looked at his parents with confusion saying, "...you mean Santa wrapped them...?!!". How could any parents not be so in love with such a child? That is the real Clark, the man who loves being an Investigative Reporter, who will give it is all to save one life, who remembers others, considers them.
@1eyeddevil929
@1eyeddevil929 11 ай бұрын
There is another Superman-like character in Japan. From the Land of Light he comes for the sake of Righteousness, he came to us from the star. Ultraman!
@bethchaisson2375
@bethchaisson2375 Ай бұрын
This is why I always preferred Superman Returns over the Man of Steel movie. It seemed the Man of Steel and its sequels focused more on the character's powers, where Superman Returns focused more on the characters themselves.
@patrickmiano7901
@patrickmiano7901 Ай бұрын
Superman should take Batman and Damian to his parents' home for Thanksgiving. It might give them an insight into what they are missing. Constant combat without relief leads to PTSD. How sad that hope, optimism, faith, and decency are regarded as boring.
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp 11 ай бұрын
Creators always focus on the spectacle of Superman, but forget that he's a small town guy. He grew up here on Earth, and learned his values from Ma and Pa Kent. I don't like when they kill off his parents in movies or shows. Feels like cheap drama.
@ElectrostatiCrow
@ElectrostatiCrow 7 күн бұрын
Weirdly enough Metro man is the best subversion of the Superman trope.
@sahilhossian8212
@sahilhossian8212 6 ай бұрын
Lore of Superman is Misunderstood momentum 100
@gaillewis5472
@gaillewis5472 10 ай бұрын
My friends named one of their twins Greyson. I ran wild with Robin and Batgirl onesies, but they weren't comic fans and simply didn't get it. I need to reintroduce Robin and Nightwing gear while she's young. Maybe she'll get it.
@dblshotz75
@dblshotz75 Ай бұрын
Imagine being a powerful god like being living on a planet where most of the popluation cries out for you when all hope is lost and you having the power to handle just about anything. Yet at the same time you cannot be everywhere all the time and living with the burden of not being able to save everyone no matter how much you want to. That is an incredible burden and something simply not explored enough in the main stream (movies, shows) and its a disservice to a great character. Supermans greatest weakness is also his greatest strength and its his humanity.
@sarathomas8499
@sarathomas8499 Ай бұрын
0:22 I LOVE Henry Cavill but when I saw this I WAS FUMING
@SuperImmortal
@SuperImmortal 11 ай бұрын
And that! That is why Superman isn't boring - he's everything you should want to be. Fr
@MakarovFox
@MakarovFox 11 ай бұрын
the superman fro the superman and lois show is pretty good
@zaberfang
@zaberfang 11 ай бұрын
Omniman is what if a CIA agent has Superman's powers.
@bran3762
@bran3762 11 ай бұрын
I really like this explanation of Superman and Clark Kent, but I think audiences won't resonate with either. I personally think that the comics fans who hate Superman and like the evil supermen, deep down, they want to be like the evil supermen. They want to be a godlike being who gets to look down on the rest of humanity. It's a power fantasy And there's always going to be more evil superman fans than Superman fans
@deepdoshi2734
@deepdoshi2734 Ай бұрын
"When I was young I wanted to be like Superman, but now I only hope I can be like Clark Kent." 😢😭
@HappyRoach1
@HappyRoach1 Ай бұрын
I gotta say that I liked the Man of Steel version of Clark Kent/Superman. I didn't find him gloomy and brooding. Clark seemed very confused. He had all these powers showing up in his youth. Then Pa Kent tells him that he is really an alien from another planet. That he has to keep it a secret because, he doesn't know what society and government would do to him. Clark was raised by good people and has powers that can help. But his father wants him to not interfere and possibly expose himself. Clark watches his father die in a tornado, that he could have rescued, but Pa Kent told him now. Yeah, this Clark Kent is going to have some issues. Notice when he discovers his biological father Jor-El and he explains to Kal-El/Clark/Superman his Kryptonian heritage. Clark seems to lighten up. Then he has Lois Lane who discovers who he is but will keep his identity a secret. Then Clark Kent meets other people from Krypton, who were alive when his biological parents existed. Finally people like him, but only to find out that they have bad intentions for his home of Earth. This has to take Clark on an emotional roller coaster. Clark now has decide to rid the Earth of his Kryptonian brethren to keep humans safe. Clark Kent a farm boy, ends up having to kill General Zod to keep a family from being murdered by his heat vision. Clark at heart isn't a soldier or anything like that. The guilt pains him. Now the aftermath of the fight between General Zod, the Kryptonian army, and Superman devastated Smallville and Metropolis. Not everyone sees Superman as a hero for saving them from the Kryptonians. There are going to be many people with many different opinions of Superman. From adoration, fear, hatred, love, respect and everything in between. Even Batman thought Superman was an alien possibly trying to take over the Earth. Yea, some things needed to be fixed in the DC films.
@blackninja9653
@blackninja9653 Ай бұрын
One nickname he kind of enjoyed = The Big Blue Boy Scout
@daniellevy2272
@daniellevy2272 11 ай бұрын
Summed up perfectly
@TwistedSynn
@TwistedSynn 11 ай бұрын
It like the newer viewings took that line from Kill Bill about Superman as fact about Superman when it was just Tarentino blowing hot air out of his ass. Forgetting Superman arrived to Earth as a Child and was Raised on Earth as a Human by human parents, Superman is as much of a Disguise to him as clumsy Clark Kent.
@malikreed2531
@malikreed2531 11 ай бұрын
That’s why Taylor from Superman and Louis is the second best Clark Kent
@poutoasumeo4981
@poutoasumeo4981 24 күн бұрын
To be fair, Santa Claus does exist in DC and loves Clark and despises Darkseid 🤣🤣🤣
@markherron1407
@markherron1407 Ай бұрын
Jesse Owens INSPIRED Superman Blessings and HUGS 👑💜
@Fllr1
@Fllr1 Жыл бұрын
You should write the next justice leage movie!
@weeaboobaguette3943
@weeaboobaguette3943 Ай бұрын
The last sentence goes hard.
@loselot6044
@loselot6044 11 ай бұрын
Omni-Man feels more like Zod than Superman ngl
@joshuaskywalker3748
@joshuaskywalker3748 Ай бұрын
I legit thought it was someone else for a split second 7:00
@quotivation47
@quotivation47 Ай бұрын
Freaking GREAT video. Superman truly doesnt get the respect and admiration he deserves. New subscriber.
@mr.sand7899
@mr.sand7899 Ай бұрын
Good representation of Superman exists out there. The 4 Christopher Reeve movies, Superman the Animated Series, Superman and Lois just to name a few things.
@HectorT52
@HectorT52 11 ай бұрын
Tbh I kinda despise that bit after final crisis I would expect superman to be more sad or nostalgic than angry, Grayson is someone he likes and batman's son so that viceral reaction from Clark seemed off to me. On everything else more or less I agree and liked the video.
@superman014
@superman014 10 ай бұрын
@jrt99b
@jrt99b Ай бұрын
You would have earned a like from me for the last two lines alone. Well done.
@dogdtwo
@dogdtwo Жыл бұрын
Remember the original super man couldn't fly he originally could just jump over buildings
@rashionalism
@rashionalism Жыл бұрын
I'd like to see your thoughts on Irredeemable and, if not a good take on "bad" Superman, definitely an earnest one
@pchurch692
@pchurch692 Жыл бұрын
Love this comic.
@bbwizard2941
@bbwizard2941 2 ай бұрын
Knowing the extended story of Invincible Omi-man always gets named as an evil Superman but later he more so becomes an inbetween of Superman and Homelander as he was raised with the mindset of Homelander but his time on earth shaped him to gain more of Superman's mindset which makes his character change a lot later on.
@peterpilgrim3377
@peterpilgrim3377 7 күн бұрын
If your Superman isn't the kindest most hopeful person in whatever room he is in then you have failed to adapt Superman. I wish this video had more views
@natedanger7841
@natedanger7841 Ай бұрын
Damn perfect ending line. Hope to be more like Clark Kent. Honestly this was much needed, Superman has always been my favorite superhero, unfortunately/fortunately I couldn’t get into the newer adaptations, but he’s the Beacon of Hope. It’s nice to see good and helpfulness in the world but without having to assert dominance but by actions of kindness and heroism. I hope they bring back the Superman of yesterday. Let’s go Blue!!!
@Cosmicfury100
@Cosmicfury100 Жыл бұрын
Batman used to use Guns all the time though so to seem him use one in the movies while dressed as an older version of Batman makes sense. Especially when you see him using it against aliens in Darkseids earth
@Light_Bolt
@Light_Bolt 2 ай бұрын
“When I was young, I wanted to be Superman. Now, I only hope I can be like Clark Kent.” What a powerful line
@Smartion
@Smartion Жыл бұрын
Great upload this one! Thank you 🙏🏼
@obviousgreyman
@obviousgreyman 29 күн бұрын
Couldn’t agree more. This is also what makes Superman a good character, he becomes boring and predictable when he’s written as not only an unstoppable “god” but also a cold alien. One of the worst things they ever did was erase Superman’s tagline “Truth, Justice, and The American Way”, and I say that not to be political but it’s undeniable thats who Superman is he’s a kid raised by farmers in middle America and he stands for those old fashioned virtues that really can only be represented by a “Superman”. Misunderstood is a perfect word for it I hope people start to wake up to this because it can only get worse if people keep ignoring the character that Superman is beyond him being OP.
@SOULFORESAKER
@SOULFORESAKER Ай бұрын
If you were in a situation where you were doomed to death by a force greater than society. And Superman came to help. You wouldn't dismiss him the way you think desperate people should.
@jayare273
@jayare273 Ай бұрын
Santa does exist in Superman’s universe. He once tore through all of Darkseids planetary defenses just to give him lumps of coal.
@lane9024
@lane9024 2 ай бұрын
Just something about the plane scene, Superman has a special ability where he can touch something and fully control it like he has telekinesis so that’s why he didn’t just go straight through the plane
@deviousj5868
@deviousj5868 11 ай бұрын
FINALLY people are waking up to how Superman misinterpreted often and bastardized. He's not some sullen edgy dark A Hole, he is hope incarnate. He's a country boy with honor doing the right thing. People say that Clark Kent is the costume and Superman is the rea persona. That isn't true Clark Kent is the true person that's going out saving the day.
@ryanakers1372
@ryanakers1372 Ай бұрын
The CW show 'Superman and Lois' actually does a really good job showing the humanity of Clark Kent, and IMO is the best modern Superman adaptation.
@jacobbarnhart8770
@jacobbarnhart8770 Ай бұрын
*Cries in Hyperion*
@PlagueOfGripes
@PlagueOfGripes Ай бұрын
Superman has similar issues to Star Trek. The whole pitch to both is showcasing humanity at its best, but when put into wider media like a movie, its writers don't know how to put that messaging into the market or format.
@Sean-ne3gx
@Sean-ne3gx 4 күн бұрын
I agree with a lot of what you said here in how a lot of people don't get Superman. However, I'm excited to see the public reaction to the rest of Omniman's arc, the writing of the Invincible comic is a great example of both a deconstruction and reconstruction, because Kirkman and Walker really get the person-ness of the character Clark Kent. Spoilers: Omniman willingly goes to supermax space prison after Mark finds out he's been living a few months on a bug man planet as their ruler he says he did a lot of thinking and becomes a much more humble and somber character constantly worried about how he will (if ever he can) atone for the things he's done in the name of the dead Viltrum empire. He convinces a number of the Viltrumites to live on earth (mostly vice versa), not just to repopulate their numbers but convinced that living with humanity, away from the society they grew up in where they saw themselves as gods over the rest of the universe and reinforced that feeling any way they could, will make them experience and feel the better parts of humanity, until they want to embody it themselves.
@jrag1000
@jrag1000 11 ай бұрын
Dc doesn't understand all of its heroes. They need some comic book people to consult with.
@mizkomunikation9478
@mizkomunikation9478 Ай бұрын
It started with Frank Miller, in my opinion, and in the years after his Batman v Superman story he’s admitted to his own bias but that hasn’t done much to fix the false narratives about Superman he pushed. Even in the Justice League film, they tried to clean Bruce Wayne up by having him acknowledge the fact that Clark lived an honest life, found love, worked a day job, etc. But once again, by then the damage was kinda done as far as the anti-Superman bias in BvS.
@rushnafwadud
@rushnafwadud Ай бұрын
You know, the thing you said about focusing on the “super” and not the “man”.. “Man of Steel” actually does it really well. I’m not a fan of the Jonathan Kent death scene, but it’s a small shrug compared to a really well told story.
@Simon-oq6ds
@Simon-oq6ds Ай бұрын
As a long time Superman fan, I am tired of the evil versions of him, especially injustice. No way would he ever become evil regardless of what happened to his loved ones. Can I also state that I am not a Batman fan because I cannot relate to his dark, brooding personality and don’t consider him a super hero. No super powers to speak of. He is a hero and maybe even a great one but he’s not a “super” hero. As a foil and friend to Superman, he is a much more worthwhile character.
@charliemorris4954
@charliemorris4954 Ай бұрын
Just wanted to let you know, you're not alone.
@Lordmewtwo151
@Lordmewtwo151 Ай бұрын
2:13-2:17 Dude, you can *fly* You *also* have super strength. Think!
@NoCluYT
@NoCluYT 2 ай бұрын
The children yearn for a role model Superman. We need some light in this dark world
@andyroobrick-a-brack9355
@andyroobrick-a-brack9355 2 күн бұрын
Omni-Man is not evil Superman. Mark is Superman dealing with a flawed world.
@rogerschneider5971
@rogerschneider5971 Ай бұрын
Someone needs to see Superman: The Movie (1978), and tell me seriously that they didn't fully understand who Superman is.
@Cvr5ta0ywa
@Cvr5ta0ywa Ай бұрын
Santa should exist in DC universe.
@elytraman1809
@elytraman1809 2 ай бұрын
I would argue that the “Jesus imagery” also comes from a misunderstanding of who Jesus is. Jesus is the type of guy to sit down with you and talk about your hobbies, or eat a meal with you and just talk about whatever. Yes Jesus is God and Yes He is Lord, but he’s also humble, kind, loving and honestly Superman is very similar to Him. And that’s why I love Superman because I love Jesus. P.S to fellow Christians who see this, if I mess up my theology please tell me and I’ll edit the comment
@NoCluYT
@NoCluYT 2 ай бұрын
Originally Superman was meant to be more of a Moses allegory. As the original writers were Jewish from my understanding.
@wl3217
@wl3217 Ай бұрын
​​​@@NoCluYTYeah. Golden age Supes was basically a riff on a basic concept of a futuristic hybrid of Moses and Sampson. Some Christians believe in "typology" such that God foreshadowed the first coming of Jesus in certain attributes of the great men and prophets of the Old Testament. Not sure how many of the later Superman writers were coming at it that way, but I do tend to appreciate when Superman seems to echo it whether planned or not.
@JohnNathanShopper
@JohnNathanShopper Ай бұрын
This. Superman is supposed to be an optimistic meditation on human nature. The point is that he stands tall even after seeing the worst humanity has to offer.
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