SuperSega FPGA Dreamcast Price and Details Revealed! But is it Real?

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Ай бұрын

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When enough of you keep asking me the same questions I try to listen...and normally thats about MARS FPGA...but today its SuperSega FPGA...or Super Sega FPGA depending on where you read the name; a new FPGA gaming device ala MiSTer FPGA that is promising Sega Dreamcast FPGA cores along with Sega Genesis, Sega Saturn, Sega Master System and more! But is it real? Can they pull it off? What gaming hardware is it using? Because we already have up to the MiSTer FPGA Sega Saturn core working today...so that's SuperSega FPGA all about? Or Super Sega FPGA that is? Will it play the best Sega Dreamcast games? Will it be a Dreamcast console?
and now more details have emerged including a Super Sega FPGA price as well as other interesting bits of information like when you should expect to see a prototype
But there are a ton of Dreamcast hidden gems, NAOMI hidden gems, IGS PGM hidden gems...and more! So playing them in FPGA one day in the future could totally be fun!
Questions? Comments? Just leave them below and I will do my best to answer each and every one of them!
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@kunka592 Ай бұрын

Makes MARS look like a released product in comparison.

@VideoGameEsoterica Ай бұрын

Been waiting on mars to show more so I can run a vid on that

@Turbotobi79 28 күн бұрын

@@VideoGameEsoterica They wanted to show it on toomanygames as far as I remember, but I didnt see a lot of information since then. I am concerned about the concept shifting to what the polymega wanted to be with this modular design. I really hoped for a more arcade focused platform with integrated jamma and more power than the MisterFPGA. At the moment I am not very optimistic about the whole project.

@NerdENerd 29 күн бұрын

I see no reason to talk about or bring attention to projects like this until there is a demo of a working prototype.

@VideoGameEsoterica 29 күн бұрын

It’s interesting to talk about whatever happens imo

@NerdENerd 29 күн бұрын

Not if it gets people to invest in a Kickfarted

@VideoGameEsoterica 29 күн бұрын

I don’t think anyone would watch this video and think it was a good thing to invest in currently

@novelezra 29 күн бұрын

Actually, talking about this as soon as possible is incredibly important. This company are putting out press pieces and making outlandish claims. This is the perfect KZfaq channel, with tons of FPGA knowledge to give their opinion of what and what is not reasonable to expect or what is actually feasibly possible with current tech

@VideoGameEsoterica 29 күн бұрын

Appreciate that :)

@ozconsoul Ай бұрын

Think about the inputs and outputs on the back of a physical 32x and then think about what they're saying about how it will supposedly work with this. They don't know what they're talking about. This is not legit.

@VideoGameEsoterica Ай бұрын

That is a confusing bit for sure

@Wobble2007 Ай бұрын

Your not interested in giving them 400 bucks for a preorder then,,,

@VideoGameEsoterica Ай бұрын

I don’t think many would be without like maximum proof of concept demos

@Wobble2007 Ай бұрын

@@VideoGameEsoterica Hope not, gamers keep getting fleeced.

@lancepage1914 Ай бұрын

@@Wobble2007you're dead right about that. Look at the state of modern gaming, an utter joke. This is slowly trickling into the retro market too.

@Myako Ай бұрын

Please try to cover the Brazilian GF1 console as well, if you can.

@VideoGameEsoterica Ай бұрын

I will for sure in the future

@shain6946 29 күн бұрын

2024 FPGA trolling

@VideoGameEsoterica 29 күн бұрын

Possibly 🤷🏻‍♂️

@shain6946 29 күн бұрын

@@VideoGameEsoterica by the way are you still interested in Saroo? a new FW dropped a few days ago, the compatibility is very good now

@VideoGameEsoterica 29 күн бұрын

@shain6946 I’ll check it out. Thanks for the heads up

@_BELMONT_ Ай бұрын

That title card went hard af!

@MrTBoneSF Ай бұрын

Let's see. Promising impossible performance: Check. Switching from FPGA to Hybrid Emulation the second someone points out impossible specs: Check Statements morph from "Will do X day one!" to "These are aspirational goals": Check Using random, unrelated pictures of (what they thought) were obscure electronics in press release: Check Hyped by Damien McFarren. Check. Using a trademarked name without permission (but saying "we're in discussions"): Check "Clarifications" still don't explain nonsense specs (dvd burner): Check Anyone who gives these guys "preorder money" after the RetroVGS, Coleco Chameleon, PolyMega, and Amico...sigh.

@VideoGameEsoterica Ай бұрын

It does have those vibes but I don’t know about “hybrid emulation”. It’s still FPGA except for needing the 32x attached. But that makes me wonder how that even works? Since the 32X needs to feed signals to a Genesis…how does an FPGA Genesis and a physical 32X work together? 🤷🏻‍♂️

@Wobble2007 Ай бұрын

@@VideoGameEsoterica Not to mention voltages need to be exact.

@VideoGameEsoterica Ай бұрын

That’s not too hard for a good elec engineer

@Wobble2007 Ай бұрын

@@VideoGameEsoterica True, but so many modern repros and modern cart releases for retro consoles are poorly made and fry consoles due to wrong voltages, so few get it right.

@VideoGameEsoterica Ай бұрын

Diff between a good engineer and an engineer lol

@Cookiedon15 Ай бұрын

Hard to make an opinion on the price without knowing what it is capable of. Indie devs seem to create new games for Genesis and Dreamcast, so it would be fun to experience them on this device

@VideoGameEsoterica Ай бұрын

People are making new Genesis and Dreamcast games here and there

@reesetube 28 күн бұрын

You might be interested in another Sega FPGA console, the GF1 Neptune, because it’s planned to have a store full of homebrews

@VideoGameEsoterica 28 күн бұрын

@reesetube I’ll cover that one soonish

@Vvewa Ай бұрын

Would rather a model 1 and 2 fpga

@VideoGameEsoterica Ай бұрын

Don’t leave poor Model 3 out haha

@Vvewa Ай бұрын

Ah yeah. Throw that in too please

@VideoGameEsoterica Ай бұрын

👍

@ef1265 Ай бұрын

Would you also like a kitchen sink FPGA?

@VideoGameEsoterica Ай бұрын

Does it play Sonic Adventure?

@AlexRoseGames Ай бұрын

I'll believe it when I see it

@VideoGameEsoterica Ай бұрын

Bout the long and short of it

@PM-xc8oo Ай бұрын

It seems really weird to release a project this niche and expensive and then just skip the 32x.

@VideoGameEsoterica Ай бұрын

Yeah I’m not sure on that one either

@rars0n 29 күн бұрын

It also seems like it would be easier and cheaper to just create a 32X FPGA core rather than implementing the functionality via the original hardware using overlayed analog video signals (I guess you don't get any 32X over digital outputs).

@VideoGameEsoterica 29 күн бұрын

I mean it’s possible they just throw a port on the back and tie that into some GPIO or something. Not out of the realm of possibilities

@ef1265 Ай бұрын

what's the intro music please? i recognise it

@electronash Ай бұрын

Twinkle Cart (Twinkle Park) - Sonic Adventure [OST]

@VideoGameEsoterica Ай бұрын

See below

@VideoGameEsoterica Ай бұрын

Nailed it

@otterdonnelly9959 Ай бұрын

I remember being hyped about people attempting the FPGA NAOMI/Dreamcast but I didn’t expect it to become the GTA6 of this scene 😅.

@VideoGameEsoterica Ай бұрын

Lot of groups going for the brass ring but so far all we have seen is paper

@nicci_dee8292 29 күн бұрын

Thank god its not Nintendont..... Another very interresting video I really want my Dreamcast Era back ❤

@VideoGameEsoterica 29 күн бұрын

Dreamcast era was the best

@nicci_dee8292 29 күн бұрын

@@VideoGameEsoterica ❤️

@gsggshhhh455 29 күн бұрын

Seems super ambitious and the fact that they think Sega would be interested makes it seem very questionable

@VideoGameEsoterica 29 күн бұрын

That was a very odd part of the interview

@EnglishOrthodox 19 күн бұрын

Having the disc tray on the side seems kinda inconvenient ngl Idc as long as it works tho lol

@VideoGameEsoterica 19 күн бұрын

Haha lotta space between sentences here

@EnglishOrthodox 19 күн бұрын

@@VideoGameEsoterica lol

@beingsupersonic7499 16 күн бұрын

Would be nice for Sega to get involved with this in some way but I doubt it.

@VideoGameEsoterica 16 күн бұрын

Me too

@MadsonOnTheWeb Ай бұрын

That is really not how to present a project. You should have a previous work like a prototype or something. Then you could ask for support or whatever

@VideoGameEsoterica Ай бұрын

Exactly

@zombiekilldemon Ай бұрын

So no sega card slot for master system, or sg-1000 card games or the 3d glasses adapter?

@VideoGameEsoterica Ай бұрын

🤷🏻‍♂️

@zombiekilldemon Ай бұрын

@@VideoGameEsoterica you think since they expect you to use a real 32x on this thing that the power base converter will work so we can still use the 3d ?

@VideoGameEsoterica Ай бұрын

I have no clue what they are thinking. Every new detail just means more 🤷🏻‍♂️

@drewba7741 29 күн бұрын

They're going to pitch a product to Sega that only runs Dreamcast backups in that functionality? That sounds like a tough sell.

@VideoGameEsoterica 29 күн бұрын

Just a bit

@H6rdc0re Ай бұрын

Offtopic but Sinden now has Mister support.

@VideoGameEsoterica Ай бұрын

I saw. I’d do a vid but I have GUN4IR and can’t really justify buying a Sinden just for a vid

@Odwalla_YT 28 күн бұрын

Man, OOF... Not that anything for this project has been substantive yet, but I've gotta throw a little shade at that case design, that's the kind of rough draft that shouldn't have seen a public release.

@VideoGameEsoterica 28 күн бұрын

It’s a vibe. I can’t say I love but I’m im 100% more interested in what’s inside the case

@matthewjohnson1891 29 күн бұрын

Looks like a master system. Thats pretty cool

@VideoGameEsoterica 29 күн бұрын

That seems to be what they were going for

@MasterRBertLink Ай бұрын

No 32X compatibility?

@VideoGameEsoterica Ай бұрын

Keep watching :)

@tailsathome 29 күн бұрын

GD-ROM is readed by faking TOC read of the drive, not very trivial for everyday use (you have to swap discs …) I really doubt they can write specialized firmware to do that …

@VideoGameEsoterica 29 күн бұрын

It’s a major hurdle for sure

@kosmosyche 29 күн бұрын

Sigh. And I thought MARS was a pipe dream.

@VideoGameEsoterica 29 күн бұрын

I mean who knows 🤷🏻‍♂️ either SuperSega won’t happen or they will surprise us all

@kosmosyche 29 күн бұрын

@@VideoGameEsoterica If I were a betting man, I'd bet on the former vs. the latter. 😁

@VideoGameEsoterica 29 күн бұрын

I wouldn’t bet against you

@markspencer9165 Ай бұрын

Can it play power drift

@VideoGameEsoterica Ай бұрын

🤣

@charthers8903 27 күн бұрын

This is like Chinese to me but I love it, I had a Dreamcast back in the day - Don’t get why Sega won’t release a remastered version of it

@VideoGameEsoterica 27 күн бұрын

I’m sure they’ve done market research and the math says not worth it yet

@anbernicguy 28 күн бұрын

Id rather have an FPGA device develop by Sega itself.

@VideoGameEsoterica 28 күн бұрын

I wonder if any gaming company will ever get into retro released consoles with FPGA

@urbanknish 29 күн бұрын

There's not a lot any of us can say at this point that isn't obvious. My main three points: 1) As long as they don't try to crowd-source, I'll root for them 2) For most people, a Pi 4 or Pi 5 is something that can do what this promises already at an under $100 price point. 3) A real dreamcast is under $100 and you can hook it up VGA... what is the point?

@VideoGameEsoterica 29 күн бұрын

I’m not saying this will happen or won’t happen. All signs point to it won’t. But…I’m of the school of thought of “does there need to be a point”? Basically…if they pull it off awesome. One more way to play

@urbanknish 29 күн бұрын

@@VideoGameEsoterica Great perspective, which is why I keep watching your videos! Maybe because I'm 55 (jaded and experienced), I see efforts like this as a "show me first" because too often they don't pan out. Big claims with nothing to show along with fund raisers are big red flags in the retro gaming community. It sure is fun to watch though. :)

@VideoGameEsoterica 29 күн бұрын

Yes I am very “words are cheap” in these instances. Have two games playable? Show us. Otherwise why say it

@METR0lD Ай бұрын

I'll be genuinely shocked if they actually get Sega to agree to make it an officially licensed device. Would be cool, but I think it's a near zero chance of happening.

@VideoGameEsoterica Ай бұрын

Basically total zero

@0xm Ай бұрын

True

@JuanSanchez-rb4qu Ай бұрын

Knowing modern sega they are waiting until this thing is released to only then sue them for the name so they go broke.

@VideoGameEsoterica Ай бұрын

Haha could be

@wilsonicsnet 29 күн бұрын

I kind of always saw this project as a proof of concept for a REAL release in the coming years. Unless YOU have an extra $500 just sitting in your wallet

@simon41978 Ай бұрын

The MISTer community has gone wildly off-course. We have hoaxes in the form of this and MARS. Pramod keeps his cores away from MISTer... it's a long way from the straightforward and awesome thing it once was.

@VideoGameEsoterica Ай бұрын

But that’s not the “MiSTer Community”. The community around MiSTer is just plugging away doing cool new stuff weekly

@simon41978 Ай бұрын

@@VideoGameEsoterica Well, I consider Pramod a part of the 'community'. The others are debatable. I just wish the nonsense would stop. That is assuming it is nonsense.

@VideoGameEsoterica 29 күн бұрын

When things get “big” they splinter. Every damn retro gaming “thing” does this. Just how it is

@blarghblargh 29 күн бұрын

I agree on the mist splintering being a bit discouraging. tho I don't lump this particular device into being mist related at all. It's just an FPGA gaming device

@berrymckockiner5883 27 күн бұрын

You said this would never happen because it was too complex

@VideoGameEsoterica 27 күн бұрын

I don’t recall saying that at all?

@berrymckockiner5883 27 күн бұрын

@@VideoGameEsoterica but you did a video on "the future of 6th gen emulation and is it possible". You said it wouldn't happen for an extremely long time or may never happen because of complexity, yet here we are.

@VideoGameEsoterica 27 күн бұрын

That was GameCube / PS2 / Xbox. Not DC

@berrymckockiner5883 27 күн бұрын

@@VideoGameEsoterica true good point but DC is technically gen 6, just the weakest of the 4. You did still say DC emulation was either far off or unlikely, in that video Saturn PS1 N64 Are gen 5

@VideoGameEsoterica 27 күн бұрын

@berrymckockiner5883 Dreamcast is more like 5.5 imo

@novelezra 29 күн бұрын

The fact they approached SEGA about this just proves that they dont know what they are doing. Why would SEGA ever agree to a device that enables you to play their entire back catalog without paying them for the licence. I mean, it this became an FPGA console where you can buy games through a service to run on it, that would be a different thing. But why would SEGA not just not make this themselves? This is just insane and makes no sense. It would be like DOLPHIN asking Nintendo if it would be OK to sell a console that played every Nintendo game. Nintendo already technically sell that product and its called a Nintendo Switch. If SEGA wanted to make a console that played all their games, they would just do that.

@rars0n 29 күн бұрын

Their logic seems to be "they didn't seem to mind back when we launched a site using their name in 2002 and we uploaded all of their gaming library so they probably won't mind this."

@novelezra 29 күн бұрын

@@rars0n So they're delusional, got it.

@rars0n 29 күн бұрын

@@novelezra Yup.

@retrorobbgaming Ай бұрын

All I really care about is if they’re able to replicate Dreamcast in FPGA we already have everything else stated with mister FPGA… aside from it being able to read the actual games.

@VideoGameEsoterica Ай бұрын

It’ll be interesting to see

@Wobble2007 Ай бұрын

Can't wait for all bare metal analogue consoles to be available in FPGA (everything up to the Wii), once you get past that, consoles with complex operating systems and digital DACs, software makes more sense, or at least for the most part, you could argue the launch 360 was a nearly bare-metal analogue console, as the OG Blades OS gad a tiny footprint and it used an analogue DAC via VGA or component for HD mode or RGB & S-Video for SD mode, same for the PS3 of course (used a very light OS aka the XMB), so at the very least 7th gen would benefit from hybrid FPGA/ARM emulation, or maybe even FPGA/X64 combination.

@VideoGameEsoterica Ай бұрын

Yes anything past Dreamcast is more “is it even worth doing”

@richardwang9315 29 күн бұрын

I'll bet You, Sega would've trusted M2 as usual rather than these guys for handling emulated / FPGA retro titles anyway. 😅

@VideoGameEsoterica 29 күн бұрын

🤣

@richardwang9315 29 күн бұрын

@@VideoGameEsoterica Thaaanks 👍😆

@antiinjusticias3892 21 күн бұрын

First video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bdN3f9Ca2bbMn3k.htmlsi=gCdoyfq_2lviBp8H

@VideoGameEsoterica 21 күн бұрын

Come back in 2 and a half hours and hear my thoughts haha. New vid on it

@BurritoKingdom Ай бұрын

That's the ugliest mockup I've seen. You'd think they'd put the cartridge slots like a Hyperkin.

@VideoGameEsoterica Ай бұрын

For me it’s not a pretty design but I am way more interested in what’s inside

@jackobyuk 29 күн бұрын

why not just make fpga dreamcast replacement board with hdmi,usb,memory card etc that you can put in your dead dreamcast shell?? instead of making this one in all mess.

@VideoGameEsoterica 29 күн бұрын

That’s not a terrible idea

@PLEYOR Ай бұрын

Cannot be real, surely?!

@VideoGameEsoterica Ай бұрын

🤷🏻‍♂️ gotta see working hardware

@blarghblargh 29 күн бұрын

I went off on a rant, on a certain other fruit martial artist's channel, as I am wont to do when I don't sleep enough and I stress myself out pointlessly w/ jobby job. But to keep it short: no. My bet is it's a scam. The guy's online history doesn't make his track record look very good at all. As best as I can tell, this wouldn't even be his first public preorder scam. But we'll see.

@VideoGameEsoterica 29 күн бұрын

Haha you can say Pixel Cherry Ninja here. We’re friends

@WWammyy 29 күн бұрын

Hmm everything seems overly complicated. @ Supporting Dreamcast GDROM @ Hardware 32x required 😐

@VideoGameEsoterica 29 күн бұрын

It does feel like it’s promising everything but also paper thin on actual details

@betweenthecolors Ай бұрын

Bummer about the 32x

@VideoGameEsoterica Ай бұрын

An odd decision

@sunderark Ай бұрын

Is anything real, Anthony? Am I a man dreaming about being a butterfly? Or am I the butterfly, dreaming about being a man?

@VideoGameEsoterica Ай бұрын

It’s as real as the paper it’s written on

@Marcus_K Ай бұрын

Let me take you down 'Cause I'm going to strawberry fields Nothing is real And nothing to get hung about Strawberry fields forever

@VideoGameEsoterica Ай бұрын

🤣

@matthewjohnson1891 29 күн бұрын

Our brains are creating hallucinations we percieve as reality based all on vibrations and wave forms. Does the color orange look the same to you as it does to me? No one will ever know.

@ninetendopesaitama2107 29 күн бұрын

A 20 k fpga board to have a dreamcast? Makes no sense. ☮️

@VideoGameEsoterica 29 күн бұрын

They said 200K

@Kadamose 29 күн бұрын

I sense vaporware, honestly.

@VideoGameEsoterica 29 күн бұрын

It has those vibes

@retroforce6919 Ай бұрын

I will stick with my MiSTer fpga it's good enough, we might get a Dreamcast core in the future.

@VideoGameEsoterica Ай бұрын

Def not on MiSTer. Maybe a MiSTer 2 one day

@Wobble2007 Ай бұрын

MiSTer would struggle with just the Yamaha Super Intelligent Sound Processor, a powerful chipset on its own, AICA @ 67 MHz and ARM7 @ 45 MHz, let alone the Hitachi CPUs and PowerVR GPU.

@VideoGameEsoterica Ай бұрын

Yes it’s just not possible on MiSTer