Is the price worth it for you?

Thanks for the transparency about the pricing of the model YOU are reviewing

The pricing is absurd, especially for a keyboard that isn't included.

It has always seemed absurd to me selling the keyboard separately. I can’t imagine anyone using it purely as a tablet. Like I understand selling the pen separately (and keyboard for iPads) as not everyone will be using one and seems more of an optional extra, but keyboard seems like a necessity for surface pro.

Great detailed and clean review. thank you.

The screen has improved greatly this time but the price is still unreasonable.

I really appreciate Monica's breakdown of everything here. It's the kind of review that I'd share with a relative if they asked about buying the surface pro, and I wouldn't have to worry about explaining anything else. I love it!

Well done review. It would be nice to see you do more hardware reviews in the future. Great job covering all the important details for anyone who would consider this device.

$1879 for a device with 256GB is absolutely insane in 2021 You can literally get a M1 13” MacBook Pro with 16GB of ram and 1TB of storage for $20 more from Apple. And it’s not like their storage or ram upgrades come cheap in the first place. Also, the M1 easily outpaces the i7-1185G7 in Geekbench. M1 Single Core: 1705 Multi Core: 7381 i7-1185G7 Single Core: 1417 Multi Core: 4854 And if you prefer 120Hz/Tablet form factor, 12.9-inch iPad Pro with 512GB, M1, MiniLED, Apple Pencil, and Magic Keyboard is $2 cheaper than their review unit. And to anyone saying that you have to buy both to get all those features, no you don’t. You either primarily use Surface Pro as a laptop or a tablet, picking either an iPad or a MacBook doesn’t significantly handicap you. I agree Apple is constraining iPadOS and they should provide a touchscreen option for MacBook’s (though I doubt I would ever want to use it). But while the Surface Pro is a jack of all trades master of none, iPad and MacBook are each best in their class.

Great review, I'm tempted to upgrade from my surface pro 5. The firm factor is perfect for reading sheet music off of.

Finally MS has got the right balance b/w form and function!

I'm blown away. I guess I haven't looked at laptop pricing in so long that I didn't realize they rocketed to outer orbit. I'm only eyeing the Lenovo Duet 5 right now, but just had a flashback to scoring a Broshiba Satellite 15.6 with an i5 in college for $500, and the crucial 10-key. Modern computing is so foreign now.

Of course cheaper would be nicer, but the price is reasonable considering there's no other device offering the same specs/performance. I might consider upgrading from my SP6 once I'm sure Windows 11 is a good user experience. Despite the overheating, my SP3 still works as a sub-office computer. Considering the lack of repairability of these devices, Surface Pro has been a reliable business solution.

So excited about this Surface- Been waiting a long time for these updates!

Is this a new host? Nice job!

Surface can handle heat well when I was pushing through pretty intensive loads ( watching Deiter videos on youtube 🤣)

I think this might end up being the successor to my Surface Book. The 'Laptop Studio' looks great but I think I'm among the few 'book' owners that actually regularly detaches the screen portion (when windows allows me too!). I like having a lightweight screen I can pop off the keyboard and chill on the sofa with.

Thanks Monica! Love your reviews!

Love that we'll finally be able to use an egpu + video card for more demanding renderings.

I cant tell if the person in this video is the person I watch in class all the time from Crash Course Kids or like a science kids thing. She uses “that is” a lot and it makes her words make more sense. If that really is you, I am legit so happy to see you here. You make things fun and entertaining.

Can't wait to upgrade my Pro 5 to this. The form factor update and other improvements are too good to ignore

I'm gonna wait a year and then get a bundle deal. I definitely want this machine, as nothing else on the market suits my use case even remotely as well as the surface pros.

The price is honestly worth it for me, since you can take handwritten notes + type/use computer-only software on the same device. That saves physical room in my bag compared to using a tablet and laptop, and also saves me a lot of paper in the long run.

No mention by Verge or MS how well Win11/SP8 work with Adobe creative suite, the biggest use case for the pen. Until tested, difficult to say whether $2k is worth it.

A really terrific review, I am sold on the Surface 8. Very, very, very informative!

"wanted a a redesign" I had the pro 3 and pro 7. The design is fantastic! Minimal upgrade needed. Less bezel is good but obviously the keyboard decline is optimal and you don't want that covering the screen.

This reviewer is awesome! Hope she makes a lot more videos

Wait until next year when Costco and other retailers will have package deals with the stylus and keyboard for sub $1k. Happens every year with the Surface Pro. I got my Surface Pro 6 (midrange model) (with keyboard) for like $800 a year after its release

This time around I'm really thinking of upgrading, it's just that my surface pro 3 is still a fine piece of computer...

Dieter is an intense load 🤣

The verge: “it’s still an surface!”

By far the best Surface Pro 8 review I have viewed.

Mostly happy with the SP8. Still disappointed there's no AMD Zen3 option.

How loud is the fan at full tilt and is the sleep bug (not waking up) finally fixed? I had to sell a SP4 at a huge loss due to all the bugs and awful fan noise.

Your writing form is way better than the main guy we always see, I forgot his name. Always make sure to not rest your wrists while typing. That's a good way to get carpal tunnel.

Finally, an unbiased review from Verge on a non-Apple product. Because it’s not Dieter Bohn or Tom Warren. Great job, Monica.

You can just make it go to 120hz when plugged in, and 60hz when on battery.

The fact that it hasn't changed much in 4 years tells how far ahead it was to it's competition

Great review. Just snagged an i5, 16GB refurbished from Microsoft for under 1K with the signature keyboard & slim pen 2. Excited to use it for grad school.

a very long verge article wont be among my problems

Watching this on my Surface Pro 7. Pretty happy with her, and the performance is more and more powerful than I expected.

It would be perfect if it had a cellular option, that's the only reason I'm still using my Pro X

After all this years people still dont understand the premium price tag is because you are getting a premium innovative and portable form factor all in one with pen input for professional work, illustrations, note taking, photo editing. if you dont have those needs go ahead and buy something else.

hey new presenter who did a really good job

I've been using the 2018 iPad Pro as a full-time laptop replacement for just over two years now. I am looking to upgrade next year and the Surface Pro 9 or perhaps a refreshed Surface Pro X are on my list too since I might want to switch to Windows. However, the steep price is really off-putting. Matching Apple's prices is not the way Microsoft can take some of the iPad market share, it needs to undercut it by at least a $100 or so. At least for me.

Great review, so thanks for posting. Currently, I'm running an iPad Pro 12.9, 2TB, Magic Keyboard, and Pen2. Clocks out at $3k-ish' with AppleCare. Please know this is not bragging as I'm not all that impressed with it. I've been using Apple products since 1983, and over time, my allegiance to the platform is running thin. With the release of Windows 11 and the refinement of the Microsoft Surface line, I'm planning to switch camps. My last two Apple MacBook/Pros broke twice, and they didn't last as long as the older Apple MacBook series. In my view, Apple is now no better than some WinTel machines. Finally, while I am judicious when subscribing to channels, I liked your speaking style so well that I subscribed right away. Regards, SV-PR

Fun fact: CNET and verge both have 3.17M subscribers as on 6/10/2021

Man c'mon... How does the Verge continuously mess up... How can you do a review of a product designed for creative professionals and have the person reviewing it use a bunch of chrome tabs at most?!? What about Photoshop or Video editing?

I just watched a review where they compared the i5 vs i7, both with 16GB of memory and there was very little ‘practical’ difference between the two.

The way this video has been put forward is going to help many consumers. I hope to see more videos like this from you. A sub from me. 👍

Thank you for your review - from the Whitsundays, Australia! I recieved a surface pro 8 for Christmas 😍

I got this for birthday, thank you for this video. I love this laptop/tablet

Great review and fantastic device. I would LOVE to get this, but I just can’t justify that price tag. I guess the 2-in-1 lives to see another day

Great review Monica. What was it like having both USB-C ports on the same side of the device? Also, what was palm rejection like while writing with the pen? I noticed in your video that most of the writing was done with your hand off the device.

My biggest concern is the fan. We know that after a while the computer gets dust and starts to heat and fan goes crazy. I would buy this surface pro 8 tomorrow if it has no fan like other surface pro models with no active ventilation at all and using similar i5 intel ships.

Nice review, thanks Monica!

Thank you for the review! Does the pen stick to the side of the Surface Pro 8? I find that so handy with my current one

I'm happy with my Surface Pro 7 which I bought a year ago. Got the i5 with 128gb storage that also comes with the keyboard for £750. In the UK, the Surface Pro 8 starts at £999 with no keyboard. The prices gone up. Yep it has a better screen but it's currently not worth the upgrade for me.

This is a solid review, but I don't agree with the excuse about the top and bottom bezel, especially the top. I have no issues holding the Samsung Galaxy Tab 7S+ with its much thinner bezels and most people hold it by the sides, not the bottom and top. Despite the comments about how modern it is, that is still too chunky. It's only modern compared to the older versions of the device which were antiquated from a bezel standpoint. So with regard to the bezels, I don't agree with the praise in 2021. Also, I agree with all the other comments about the price. Way too high for what it being offered.

Great review, dig your style Monica!

I want surface neo :(

That price tag is steep, especially for a mid-spec model, even if you skimp on an SSD and upgrade it later it is still quite a chunk of cash, but it might be worth the premium for that beautiful super light form factor. I will wait for a price drop or perhaps an future AMD version which may offer better battery life and better pricing in lieu of Thunderbolt, if it ever sees the light of day that is. But it is safe to say it is indeed the Surface Pro most of us were hoping for!

thanks for the review monica!

I love MS but uhhhh, it's time to include that keyboard and pen for this pricing model

can you make a student-brakedown of the device? How does it handle the usual productivity Taks? (image, video edditing) And sprecial question, does it run CAD well? (NX, SolidWorks)

My Dell XPS 13 (11th gen) cost $1,699 and had similar specs to the test model shown here. Pricing isn't that much different.

purchased a 10th gen 8gb surface pro 7 on ebay for around $350. buying used isnt always bad!

Nice review. Very insightful. Damn that price though.

Great, *balanced* review of a great, slightly overpriced product.

Nice review, but I would have mentioned the fact that the pro 8 is quite a bit heavier than its predecessors, at 2 pounds (almost 900gr). Personally that’s beyond what I consider usable as a tablet (the surface pro 7 and pro X, at 100gr less were already at the limit of that)

Still sticking on tigerlake and no cellular option... I will keep waiting for sp8+ or 9.

1:30 me on my 59hz monitor: 'oh wow look at the difference'

This is a really good review Kudos to you Monica Chin!

This disk size downsizing on Laptops and tablets is getting so rediculess. My smartphone has more storage that this 1000$+ work device. It's so obvious they do this to make you choose the higher spec even if you only need more space

Mine comes tomorrow! So excited!

That edit at 5:10. She looked surprised that the video was still going

Well, the Surface Pro line has always been far from wallet-friendly. I remember when I bought my first Surface device back in 2017, it cost nearly as much as this model does considering that the keyboard and the pen has been sold separately and how limited the storage they has provided since then. And note that the standard warranty only last for 1 year, which is below par with its competitors except Apple. My biggest concern about this device is its battery life. Despite the improvement made this year, the battery health may deteriorates rapidly like its predecessors do, some of which even swelled severely, causing issues like chassis distortion.

Really nice review!! Personally, I don’t need such a power and I prefer a traditional 15,6” laptop. My Lenovo with its 10th gen Core i5 works like a breeze with my usual workflow (Lightroom Classic, 5-6 Edge tabs open and Apple Music the same time) and it cost me about 700€.

Writing on the screen with the keyboard attached, while holding your hand in space like that, really does the Surface Pro a disservice.

Jump to the future and get the Altoona inversion benign version. Next service will have also have airport to stick in.

Great review, thanks! This Surface seems really nice, but you also really have to love circling stuff on the screen with the pen to buy this instead of regular notebooks or heck, even an iPad Air/Pro is cheaper in similar configs…

1200 or maybe 1500 would have been maybe considerable ❌

The pricing is ridiculous. $1800 with tax is similar to decent midrange gaming laptops with a higher refresh rate, upgradeable internals, more power + GPU...honestly, if someone really needs that form factor...there's a bunch of options. I like the upgrades but that pricing is ridiculous given what $1800+ can get you if you shop around.

ill buy it after a few years when people start selling them on ebay, I still have my surface pro 3 and its still working great for what I need it for. Battery is probably going to kick the bucket in the coming years so that's going to be the time I make the switch.

$1,879 for the highest spec version? At that price point you can literality get a faster m1 macbook air + latest m1 Ipad mini with folio keyboard + pencil and you still have some change

Some of us are very weird in 2021; we are totally okay paying $2000 for a phone that may not make us any money but not a super powerful laptop that earns our main income to pay all bills, including the $2000 phone and its monthly bill. Just saying 🤣

Amazing review! 👍

I've had my base model surface pro 8 for a while now. It handles everything I throw at it well, the stylus is great. the problem is windows. I'm left handed, so when I'm taking notes during D&D sessions, I'm constantly opening the news and weather sidebar, and that's using a digital artist glove. Please Microsoft, I don't care about stocks, or celebrities Let me focus on the two windows I'm working on until I tell you otherwise.

I just have to comment about the everyone that talks about price or pricing.... Anyone who is a fan will buy it regardless just like apple fan can buy iphone 12 or 13 for thousands of dollars. I don't have the money and I think the price is awesome because I love their products and I will certainly save to buy this baby next year ❤️ I have the surface pro 3 and I am long due to an update

Costs way too much and doesn’t even come with the keyboard. A hard pass for me

The microphone and camera looks really good

The host did an excellent job reviewing this. Great breakdown video.

I find it funny in a Microsoft Surface review they use Google Chrome, Zoom and Google Docs for testing.

I wonder what "heavy workload" is when the best feature and most desired feature for people who really do heavy workload wasn't even mentioned, Thunderbolt.

You can pick up a 2019 Surface Pro X for a steal now. It is more than powerful enough for an MS Office user, web based stuff, and everyday applications. Obviously not for creators but then neither is the SP8. It also has a fab screen, form factor. LTE, nice speakers, excellent 1080p webcam, and really good far-field microphones. You can also get ones with the signature keyboard and slim stylus that slots inside it.

I would want it with the configuration of your review, but not at that price. Wonderful job with your review. I do like that it has a fan.

Previously only the Core i7 variant has a fan. Is this still the case? I'd happy sacrifice speed for no fan. Fans are just awful. Thanks.

This ain't a laptop, this is a tablet with an optional keyboard. Call me when they make a proper, simple, notebook.

Perfect Review Clear Explanation cool~~~!!!

Great unbiased review.