Here's the link for video where I did the previous lopsided comparison: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fNV4iJaq2rW0oWg.html

Phil, I've noticed in almost every saw cutting video you using the bumper spikes to try and speed your cuts. They are just to help prevent kickbacks, not to force the saw to cut faster. Your bogging the chain down doing this and not going to get an accurate cut comparison between two saws doing this. It will also dull your chain faster using it the way you are. Just full throttle it, keep saw parallel to ground the whole cut and let the saw do its work.

As I only do garden maintenance, I don't use chainsaws that much, I do take down the odd tree now and then, but I generally use one for logging firewood. Bought myself a Husqvarna 455 Rancher a couple of years ago and it's been excellent for my needs!

The chain on the echo and the new “pro” chain are also reduced chickback chains, just a different style. They have the additional bumper links next to the depth gauge(raker). A standard chain will have no additional bumper links next to the rakers.

Have you tried the Husqvarna x cut chain? I have a 20 and 24 inch I run on a 55 rancher. They cut fast and throw chips.

Very interesting thanks for sharing Phil!👍👍

The 590 will get stronger after a few more tanks of fuel most echos take a while to fully run to their maximum potential

Good comparison video. Thanks The vanguard chain that come on the ranchers is trash! My Echo cs590 took 8-10 tanks before it woke up, and prefer it more than my 460 rancher. Both are good firewood saws. But will take the Echo Timberwolf with magnesium case bolt-on cylinder any day over the Husqvarna Rancher plastic clamshell. Echo 590 $400 (59.8cc 4.1hp) 620 $550 (59.8cc 4.7hp) Husqvarna 455 $500 (55.5cc 3.5hp) 460 $550 (60.2cc 3.6hp)

Both look like good saws👍. I was looking at echo but purchased a stihl only because I had stihl. The next saw may be an echo or husky just too compare them and see what I might be missing out on.

My brand new 455 Rancher has leaked bar oil since the first tank full. My new Echo CS490 doesn't leak any at all, and it's over a year older saw. All my huskys leak bar oil. Husky 66, husky 455, and husky 141... tried everything to fix the leaks, now i either pour the oil back in jug, or store the saws on their side with bar on the top. My echos use less bar oil since they are clutch driven and not crankshaft driven.

Just bought the cs590 a few days ago. It's awesome for the money but it's pretty heavy for its displacement. It's the same weight as my dad's husqvarna 372xp and that's a 71cc saw

Little more equal comparison on this one. Pretty dang close. Couple great firewood producers for you to use. Be safe brother!

Hi Phil - it's Big Rodders in Ireland. I found this most interesting, especially as I told you I have just purchased a 455 to replace my retired 365. You confirmed my decision and I am confident the 455 will fulfil my reduced production needs. Over here the Echo is 40% more expensive at $1040 for no increase in output. I always use an Oregon semi chisel version of the new full chisel chain you bought. When I'm bucking I get the most consistent cutting by just rocking the saw slighly while keeping it horizontal and not using the dogs so the weight of the saw lets the teeth find their own bite while maintaining maximum revs - I also feel it puts less pressure on the clutch as the chain seldom jams.

Don’t think your chains were equal. When you sharpened did you reset the rackers?

Got a 455 rancher and absolutely love it

i like the oregon pro chains they cut nice but in my experience the husqvarna chains cut just as well but are a bit more durable but also more expensive i also prefer a 24 inch bar over the 20 the saw seems to have plenty of power for it and its a great length for bucking.i did hog out the muffler a little and it seems to make it run just a little better

Echos chain is also a safety chain (anti kickback) if it's what came on your saw.

Always impressed by the cs590

First time on your channel ... two nice saws there , im a huge fan of Echo saws that timber wolf rips..

I use the spikes to guide the saw and not put extra pressure on the cut. I do a lot of what you are doing by reaching to the other side to finish the cut up or down in front of me depending on the pressure. I often wonder if we didn’t have the epa interference we would have much lighter saws that are manufactured to get optimal performance out of their two cycle engines. There is no reason why we can’t have 6hp out of a saw that size.

I have several saws. A 240 husky, 460 rancher, I also have both 490 and 590 echo saws and I'm just not a husky fan. They seem under powered for what you pay for them. I always reach for the echoes.

I got an echo cs-352 for around the house and if things get tough I pull out my cs-490, just got the 490 not long ago. I’ve had the 352 for 5 years now. Keep a clean air filter and a sharp chain and man they just go and go and go. Nice comparison. Grandfather bought an old husky back in the 90s and it still runs just fine. For what that’s worth.

Have you done the innner muffler outlet deflector removal mod and removed the limiter caps? Picks up a little bit of power and response. The cut time results don't surprise me since both saws are close to equal in power. Overall there is no equal to the Echo CS-590 in the "farm and ranch" class in my opinion. Superior engine design and durability.

When my Timberwolf 590 broke in I was pleasantly surprised. But... I'm not a fan of the clutch oiler. The chain gets too hot after a few heavy cuts.

Phil I’ve never really ran a Husky but I know I really like my Echo saws. Take care, Ben.

If you just type the replacement chain 72lpx70cq but leave the cq out youll get a list of non kickback chains that still perform well when boring woth tip. LGX70g are good too but riskier with the tip.

The 455 sounds like the high throttle adjustment is a little low.

I love my 455 rancher, 1 second or so in time will probably not induce me to run out to replace my chainsaw any time soon.

I tried posting a link to an online seller for a better chain loop for both saws, but the comment disappeared. I'll email a link if you have an addy listed. As others have suggested there is better chain. Try Oregon 72EXL in 72 drive length loops for the 455 and 70dl for the echo I believe. Buy online for best pricing, but for best info and product go find a good dealer instead of the big box stuff. Stihl 33RS is really good but much more expensive as is the Husqvarna version of big boy chain

Love my 455 Rancher!!

They cut about the same with the same chain just be careful with the more aggressive chain have a great week

The echo chain is definitely an Oregon chain too it looks the same as the new one on the husky

I think the echo has a bit more in it. I noticed the second time you ran it, it was ruining a bit rich. Maybe the air filter is getting a little or dirty or the carb may need a tweak. If the carb needs a tweak, I'd leave it alone til you run 5-10 tanks through it.

Echos chain is also a safety chain if it's what came on your saw.

Love the huskys but will choose the echos over the farm saws any day of the week

Both good saws. I think a better comparison would be the husqvarna 460 . Since the echo is 59 cc's

I think he should have kept the bar more horizontal

Echo is definitely a nicer built saw. Once it breaks in it will run stronger especially if you retune it. Its tuned really rich from the factory

That Echo should pickup a lil more once it's broken in. For the price of that 590 it's well worth it.

You should spend some extra money and grab an XP Husky. Atleast a 550. You'd be amazed what it can do for only a 50 cc. Nothing against the Ranchers but it's a huge jump from those to an XP. Well worth the extra cash.

You bought another safety chain!

I love my 590!

I would think coarse chips a faster cut but that doesn't mean its the saws fault

The Husky does not sound good at Max RPM, needs to be fine tuned

The Husky has the advantage of lubricating its storage location with bar oil😉.

590 all the way ---> Best overall for the cash and performance

Try full throttle 2seconds before you start into the log then don't let off full throttle until cut is done

That's not a safety chain on that Husky. Well it is but it isn't the type with the raised portion on the link right next to the rakers 🤷‍♂️ Looks like you did a pretty good job filing it though

Another of this is tecqunique better approach is to just drop the saws straight through for a better even engine and blade load vs doing the frantic wiggle technique

I was a Stihl guy through and through but last year I realized Husqvarna and Stihl don't make anything close the CS590 in value (ie; a 60cc pro-grade saw with a split crankcase that will pull a 24" bar). Both companies have saws as good and better but you won't get your hands on one for under $800. On top of that, swap out the muffler & coil, and open up the exhaust and you have a CS620p

Please tighten the chain on your echo. Evertime I loose one it's because it is loose. You should be just fine doing. But.... better safe than sorry.

To do the comparison correctly you should use two new chains, exact same brand and type of chains, one on each saw. Hand sharpening a chain completely ruins the comparison, there is no way to know if you sharpened it correctly. You would also need to use the same gas, and even then it depends on how you cut, how hard you push and if you keep the motor at its peak horsepower. I have a Husky and its been fairly reliable but its gotten a little difficult to start after 20 years. The Echo doesn't seem to be running right in this video.

Personally I like echo instead of the other two (husq and Stihl) because it just doesn’t whine as much. The hutch pitch, which most don’t care about, is SERIOUSLY annoying for me so I like the fact it generates a “lower” pitch when cutting. As far as the way tit cuts compared to the other two names mentioned. At a certain point they’re all the same. The differences are the Bella and whistles, which as a homeowner I don’t care about. The one thing I can tell you is that the better names, like the three mentioned here (Stihl, husq, echo) tend to be more balanced than cheaper names so that is a serious plus when cutting (used a cheaper saw and compared it to those three and it was complete difference in behavior of the saw, it didn’t violently vibrate to the point where it caused hand/arm fatigue and I never complain even post cancer surgery) As far as chains. Look at sticking with better chains that are geared for the type of wood and weather conditions maple chains cut harder wood better depending on bar length and some even operare better in colder weather than others, and there are quite a few, such as Gil skip, semi skip, half chisel, full chisel, and everything in between. Also, noticed that Stihl bar oil is best for all around cutting and it tends to do a better job than the cheaper stuff ONE BIG NOTE: Lucas 2 Stroke engine oil and sea foam helped ALOT, and I’m not kidding it helped ALOT, with the smell, and carbon discharge from the engine. I will never run a saw without those two added with higher octane fuel sbeccasse I feel it just runs better overall, starts up and heats up faster and nicer and I have less headaches overall. Oh yeah and sea foam has the nice additional attribute that it is a fuel stabilizer, so if you don’t use fuel for about a month I you don’t have to worry about it. Try those things out and tel me what you think. I think with Stihl Barbour, Lucas 2stroke and sea foam with better gas, you will notice it too😊😊

That bar is plenty long to cut straight down through that log, would give better and more realistic times than running the saw around the log..

The Echo was definitely the winner.

When you said it was a surprising result, I thought you were going to say the Husqvarna won. Of course the ECHO is going to win! No surprise there! 😆

Echo rules

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Factory sharpened chains are done terribly. I learned that they don’t do a good job sharpening them and that when you put a new chain on, always sharpen it yourself. I think they do it on purpose for some kind of liability, just a guess

Hardly no difference between the two know. Both good saws and almost the same just different manufacturers.

The chain on the echo is oregon. It's stamped on the side links.

I've been considering an Echo saw, use Dolmar and Stihl currently.

🙋🏻‍♂️👍👍👍🏆

590 avg. Is actually 10.75 because of tree being smaller and the last two cuts shown were even with husky's last two on new chain. Cant combine all four cuts on 590 and get a accurate avg. like that.

STIHL!!!

Only good thing that husky motor is good for is a scooter

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Ahhh hahhh fks ECHO for gold

You seem like a nice guy, however ever you seem to have little knowledge of saw chain, as none of those are professional chains. Also you are bogging the saws by means of the bumper spikes, that's not what they are for. also, the 455 clearly is in need of some carb tuning. over all, I think this video is a total fail.

I hope nobody's trying to learn anything from this video...