@NPC It's lazy. 🙄 Both parents need to care for their children daily.

@NPC Would be the exact same concept as "time with mom". Dad takes kids to the movies on Saturday when mom is busy, mom takes the kids to the mall on Sunday when dad is busy, whatever it may be. Both are bonding times.

@NPC no it’s not. It’s so sad you think it is.

@NPC calling it BABYSITTING is what’s bad 🙄

@@darthvader1793

You showing up and cleaning it for them definitely wouldn’t make it better. That’s how they got that way in the first place.

Tried that with my ex and the dishes were the problem. I cook neatly so there's very little cleanup. 5 minutes cleaning the air fryer and a wok, putting the dishes in the washer and wiping the countertops. She would use half the pots and pans, the food processor, measuring cups and chopping boards, leave spillage on the range top and then leave tons of ingredients out. So I think whoever cooks should clean their own mess. 😂

that's usually the arrangement we have between me, Sis and mom, but it usually depends on who's not the most tired that day.

Why the heck is she responsible for the house keeper and you the landscaper? A) landscaping is not year round. B) that is STILL making her responsible for house work getting done. Grown up and get with the century. Stop thinking house keeping is your wife responsibility. Be equal. Both pay because you both benefit. 🙄

@@djangomarine6658 so she actually cooked vs you just air fry shit. You sound like a tool. Glad to hear she didn’t stick around.

@@tracim3080 huh? She isn’t responsible. We have one bank account and a household budget. I used to vacuum so the house cleaning person also benefits me. Kinda confused by your comment.

My thoughts exactly. She doesn't have kids, so it's not such a burden yet, but that's called the mental load. Having to keep on top of and manage the household. This way you become the manager in your free time, who also has to do the work a lot of the time. Fair Play is a good book on how to divide chores. Divide the chores in complete chunks. In this example he will be responsible for the floors and that's it. No reminding or nagging needed. Men know how to take on tasks at work, so it's not a mental capacity problem. Unless, like my husband, they have genuine eye problems, which we discovered because he never vacuumed the baseboards. He didn't actually see that far and was vaccuming willy nilly.

Very good point! My sister was violently ill through her whole pregnancy and their house was a disaster because even then, her husband wouldn't clean. I even went grocery shopping for her a few times. He kept cutting the grass though. You know, his one manly chore. Thank god she had a boy. I'm sure he'd do even less if their child were female.

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No. Hes the average. Most men over 30 clean and maintain their homes. But if you go online and ask women, no man has ever cleaned anything. Its ridiculous. If you both work and split bills, then you split the chores. Its not even an argument. If you choose a guy who doesnt do this, blame your choice, not all men. Men are fine. You need to pick better.

It’s sad that’s considered lucky

@@user-vg8ox3he1i I agree! My ex-fiancé didn’t do squat! I blame myself for my poor decision and chalk it up to my youth and naivety! Your absolutely right about sharing the finances and chores, makes for a great relationship. Why do people always think the woman is the one in the relationship that complains about the lack of help and responsibility? I have a friend who is an absolute slob and her husband is always asking her to help him wash the clothes or do the dishes. He’s the one who gets upset, so she’s the exception in that scenario😂

@@tracim3080 it really is! I’ve seen this scenario in reverse with a friend of mine. When the shoes are on the other foot, why isn’t that considered sexist or typical? 🤔It makes me wonder…

This is how I want my future marriage to look like. I love doing things in the household which traditionally men do but I don’t have a problem either to have days where I do the vacuuming and laundry etc.

*sigh* a real partnership, feels like a rare thing nowadays. While trying to figure out how you guys are so awesome my mind focused on your wife chopping up the tree. Playing with a hatchet is "a man's job" I don't think that counts as a chore because it's fun. There's no reason a woman can't cop up a tree, we may do it faster but so what. The real question on equality is... Can you sew and use a sewing machine? 🤣 Well done though

That sounds so functional -- I am much more "handy" than my fiancé, and I'd be waiting forever if I needed him to peel paint in order to refinish the wood window sills, and he'd be waiting forever if he needed me to mop the floors. Partnership is an amazing thing!

This is what we did when I gave my ex an ultimatum!

​@@AbdulKhader-786 Hey now... only in the bedroom. 😏

I make my bed every day and it takes less than 5 minutes so you're just being very lazy to be honest.

@@yarpenzigrin1893 Why would I spend 5 minutes doing something I think is pointless?

@@de6212 Okay, I get it. That said, do you do dishes, clean the counters after all meals, hoover and mop at least three times a week, clean the toilet twice a week, do laundry, cook etc. Those are the important chores most men refuse to do around the house. Yes, there are more important things to do than make the bed, the question is are YOU doing them?

@@fredrika27 Those fall under by what I meant by "sanitary" , although I would say you don't need to clean the floors and toilets that frequently. That's sort of my point. If you think floors need to be cleaned 3-times a week, then it's on you to do it.

@@de6212 It is not pointless to keep order and tidyness. Especially when you have guests over. It respresents the strength of your character and your approach to chores in general. Most important things in life require tedious, repetitive and often hard work. If you can't put a couple of minutes to make your bedroom look presentable, in 10 years you're going to be a fat slob wearing a wife beater with ketchup stains. As you get older you have less energy and if you don't have the willpower to put your shit together when you're young, your life will be a complete mess when you're older. What woman would want to live with a man like that?

when mom needed some domestic help, i tried suggesting to dad that he could just focus on taking out the trash and recycling while Sis and i focus on laundery and dishes respectively; that way, he'd only have ONE job to do ONCE a week. he threw a snit. turns out Sis and i have ADD-I and ADHD, respectively. we figured dad had it, among other mental illnesses he refused to address, but maybe if he did, he wouldn't've died from NASH caused by his chronic addiction to coca-cola (caffeine and sugar usually help alleviate ADHD symptoms, but not completely).

So are women washing the cars, mowing the lawn, fixing the fence without being told or asked? I think it's unfair to just expect someone to do something without even discussing it with them. Women aren't just voluntarily doing tasks that men normally take care of, are they? So why are men expected to just voluntarily pick up the opposite side? Discussions should be had. I think most men wouldn't mind vacuuming or doing dishes or laundry if their wives asked, but to just expect it to be done without even discussing it is a bit presumptuous when the men aren't expecting their wives to go out and powerwash the driveway.

@@brandonb.5304 Women are doing more chores overall- why would we add more chores when we are already doing more! We do more chores then men all the time without needing men to tell us to do it. To be clear, I did not say there is no conversation about chores. You were very disingenuous with your interpretation. I said the chores should be divided up (presumably with a conversation), and then men should start doing them without women having to constantly tell them. It is not, at all, fair to ask a women to take the mental labor of figuring out everything that needs to be done. Men need to participate in that process.

@@brandonb.5304 You called me presumptuous, but women having been doing the majority of chores without being told to even when we took on more work. If you want to look at presumption, take a look in the mirror.

@@williac31 "More" does not equal more difficult or time consuming. Changing the oil of two or three vehicles is far more difficult than vacuuming the living room and doing the dishes. Again, I didn't say men shouldn't help with these more menial tasks, but you implied that men should just know that they should have to do them and women shouldn't have to communicate to their husbands that they should help.

THANK YOU FOR SAYING THIS.

You’re the best husband for looking after your wife while raising the kids and everything 💪 wishing you all the best!

Laundry isn't rocket science, Though. And as a grown adult that drives and holds down a job I fully expect him to learn how to do laundry the way it should be done otherwise he just doesn't care. I'm in agreement with everyone pitching in equally. So claiming the laundry Duty and he gets equal workload of other duties. That sounds fine.

In plain English, people always say that children do not cause divorces. That is NOT true. THEY DO. If the children were responsible for the failure of their parents' marriages, they don't need to be told that, because they know it.

So in other words, you want a man to support you, pay for your lifestyle, and be able to spend money without discussing with him first. You also want him to help around the house and take care of the children when he gets off work. Tell me, what does he get ouf the the relationship or marriage?

Well teach them they need to compromise too. If they insist on 7 chores being done every few days and the man was fine doing 5 chores once a week, they don't get to say they are being taken advantage of if the man isn't doing 7 chores every few days.

​@@plantbasedanalyst6263 Sex, kids and liabilities.

this is prolly why sex education is getting banned in school settings; relationship discussions was a thing i recall having in those cases (but then again, i live in a progressive state compared to the rest of the US who hates our guts for being so "awesome" :/) ...though the "awesome" aspect is very debatable in my opinion.

My theory was men didn't less time on these things because they do it more quickly... this alternative logic works for me 😂

It helps when you stop viewing such things as a scoreboard.

Do you know how exhausting it is to have to always or constatntly tell someone else a grown person that I need sex and that she should take care of my needs daily? Yeah, people have their responsibilities. You're not doing yours then why do you expect your husband to do his?

Do you know how exhausting it is to have a joyless grown person keeping score because things are not as perfect as her self centered views of things should be due to chronic micromanaging entitlement?

@Yarpen Zigrin 1. Your not owed sex simply because you want it 2. You sound disgusting and like an incel do better weirdo

@Club Astro Transcendental Motor sounds like something someone with a micropenis would say

It took you 40 years to work out you live with an oddball. Who doesn't like to be watched. But likes to watch others 👀

40 years? You should have kicked his ass into gear in the first year.

You mean to tell me that it took you forty years to figure out that all you had to do was ask?

Exactly! 😂 ...and then equal pay for equal work. Unpaid services remain unpaid.😢

Yeah big families, everyone has to pitch in or mom would be crushed!

@@steveeuphrates-river7342she was destroyed by popping out 7

I will never be upset if someone wants to be single. If this is what you think all men are like, then stay single. Same thing for men who think negatively of women, stay single.

Happy full-time worker/single parent here...stay single please.

Good point.

Because women on average are more sensitive to mess than men. Regardless of which sex it is, the path of least resistance is for the partner who is more alert to notify the other partner and request their assistance. If the house _must_ be cleaner than your partner cares for, the least you can do is help him help you.

I bet you are single.

Its not about equally. Its about communication preferences. This issue aside men respond to direct communication. We don't read body language or notice mood changes as well as woman. It's not that its your job and your asking him to do your job, he might not know it needs to get done at all.

​@@cristianmartinez5641 He can notice the trash bag needs to swapped out or dishes need to be washed and just do it, without waiting for wifey to ask him to do it.

The other thing to keep in mind is people have different tolerances for when something needs to be cleaned. I think men are just generally less bothered by mess and are more willing to let it sit.

@@koolaidjerk Agreed. Every couple goes thru the "what is clean, anyway" phase.

Liberals are destroying the nuclear family. The nuclear family has lifted many out of poverty and it creates the most stable and happy households. When you deprive a woman of her natural gender role, negative consequences follow. That's why men don't seek a partner that is successful (a career woman). They want a woman who is beautiful, smart, caring, and can cook and clean. It isn't that difficult.

Well, I would think any stable mind person would know that the game changes when the playing field is altered. You should never feel ashamed of what you CAN'T do, only what you Won't do. That's the way I see it, anyway.

I agree and you get a really good feeling afterwards getting things done. It also does not have to be perfect (men have this misconception that women in general expect things to be perfectly done. But I think what most women appreciate is someone trying and making an effort).

Agree with K.O. I'm single. have never been married because I despised how my sisters and I had to do household chores and my brother did nothing. He made 3 times more mess and couldn't even be bothered to pick up his plate and take it to the sink for washing. My mother worked a full time job and had to rely on us to do the laundry etc. My father did nothing around the house because he was the "bacon maker", but worked a shorter work day than my mother. My friends all complain about their do nothing but "bring home the bacon" partners. Those partners do not know birthdays, doctor/dentist/teacher names, those partners don't remember her birthday, many of the partners have no clue what is her favorite color/music/movie/etc etc etc. The partners spend no time with their children, but complain when the kids get in his way. All my friends do ALL the cooking/shopping/food prep/housework/childcare/yardwork etc etc AND do 40- 50 hr work week to also "bring home the bacon". Many do the so-called heavy lifting of mainteneance, repairs and painting because hubby needs some downtime fromhis hectic 40 hr work week. The girls all work 100+ hour work week, but the hubby is annoyed when the dinner isn't on the table. I have re-wired/re-plumbed stuff the hubs finally managed to do but since the "work" was so so so bad, I fixed the he man "repair" so their house didn't burn down and so the sink worked. Most are retired from outside jobs and the men still do nothing around the house. My friends eye my clean house with no manbaby to continue raising and voice envy. My daughter grew up understanding the difference between my household and that of friends, neighbors and etc. My daughter is 37 and also has zero intention of raising a man baby. She is much much much happier than her friends. Go figure.

So you agree that if the wife earns less she should do the majority of housework?

That would guarantee your divorce. Women tend to see men emasculated and lose attraction to them if they earn less and do more housework. Those are psychological data facts. They will complain because that’s what they do no matter what but earning less will get you eventually divorced and doing housework also will get you divorced.

​@@cactaceous That's not true for all females, I know 2 of them and both couples have teen kids still going strong.

@@DragonLove225 It is true for the very great majority of them. The very great majority. Those 2 “stories” you know nothing about. Are they already having affairs? Are they waiting for the kids to be out of the house to ask for a divorce? 80% of divorces are initiated by women and out of those 80%, 67% of them eventually regret it. Women are usually always unhappy about something and the scapegoat are the men so they run away from their problems always to find the grass is never greener because the problem is in the mind. What did women think was going to happen when they chose to have careers and cater to their biological urges at the same time? Life to be easy? They choose men for one reason but expect them to be somebody else later? Women will never rule the world because most of their their choices are devoid of logic.

​@@DragonLove225 I know 2 of them too and it's not what it seems behind close doors.

That’s called an abusvie relationship and you should consider getting your friends help.

you know where else they tend to end in? JAIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lmao. Yea. No. Sons dont respect mothers of dad is not around

​@@danielmankinde1706 A lot of women don't actually mind that. They like jailbirds. Convicts have more kids than middle class men even though they've had less time to make them. Seriously.

The majority of men whether single or alone take care of their homes and do their fair share. Women like to pretend no man ever cleaned a dish or washed a toilet without a woman. Its an ego trip. They use this so they can feel more valuable. "Oh he cant survive without me". Yeah, we can. According to women online, all men are trash and abusive and marriage is so bad for women yet for some reason women everywhere are all getting into relationships and marriages...hmm

Would also like such a study to include how long it takes men vs women to perform the same task

Cause youre too incompetent to stay in your marriages. We can just go overseas and yall die alone.

​@@lancerussell755 you say "die alone" as if it's a bad thing

@@belindarocky961 White and Black men have the highest rate of dying alone in hospital because they "f@#ked up their relationships with their kids and wives/girlfriends." This is an issue because hospitals and care homes have to find the next of kin for burial. Often there is so much animosity toward the father who refused to pay spousal/child benefit, physically and sexually abused the women and children and denied paratage, that these loved ones refuse to sign for the body and pay for burial or creamarion (in some states/countries less than $1500). The result is the care home, hospital and morgue have to dispose of these bodies. Most are buried in unmarked or city graves with the result of subsequent children/wives/girlfriends not being able to retrieve the body for proper burial leading to mental health issues. All this because some men feel entitled to not contribute to household chores nor raising the kids. Refusing to do household chores and be involved has consequences. White, Black, Hispanic, Jewish, Asian and Native women only die alone when their partner or children is diseased.

Only if they didn't know going in that 50% of marriages fail and 80% of divorces are filed by women.

I have stumbled across "laundry folding" videos recently. They are both entertaining and practical. They show how to *quickly* fold laundry (in some cases simply by picking it up the right way) and/or how to efficiently fold laundry (so it takes much less space). I used them for my ski trip to mammoth and the suitcase literally felt empty even tho I had one more shirt than usual.

You might want to look at the numbers on how marriage numbers are falling off the cliff. A large majority of men are walking away from marriage and shacking up with women.

We generally don't have to tell our mothers. By that age, if they're still married, they understand that housework also includes the men's traditional stuff that they don't want to do, like shoveling snow, lawn care, plumbing, car maintenance, critter clearing, pool maintenance, gutters, etc. All the hard, nasty, dangerous, climbing, tool, machine and chemical stuff around the house. So when our dad's help out with "domestic duties" a little here and there, they're happy. Also, if they're married then their kids aren't bastards, and people wouldn't exist without our fathers either. Eggs don't turn into babies by themselves.

Of course not.

That's actually pretty funny😂

Hovering? Is it those vacuum robots?

And guys don't feel like some fat hoe is worth mowing the lawn and changing the oil for their cars for while also going to work on the construction site, while all she does at home is fold laundry.

And the fact that she can get half of the assets and alimony plus child support has nothing to do with it.....

So y'all don't cook and clean for yourselves as single grown adults?

Don’t you still have to do all these things while living alone?

Keep up the good work man. I bet when all of her friends are complaining about their husbands, she goes silent because she has nothing to say.

If she comes behind you and “recleans” does it occur to you that you didn’t really clean it in the first place? Also did you wreak her clothes in the past and that’s why your only allowed to fold? I’ve seen that so many times. fineness should NEVER be handle but just one half of the relationship. That is something that should also be done together for full disclosure. It’s a bad sign if you are doing that.

I'm teaching my son how to do all the household work and cook. He is refusing saying his apprenticeship which is physically labor tires him. However, I as a mum with a full time job must do 100% of all household chores with a dead father who can't help. I now send him a bill for cleaning and once sent it to a bill collector because he refused to pay. I refuse to have my son mistreat me in such a way as to disrespect the work I do. After receiving three bills for $50, my son now is cleaning. Cooking is next!

@@fredrika27 $50 bucks? If I was in his shoes I would just pay the $50. Sounds like he failed the test IMO. Since you decided that was your value, you defacto agreed to it, and if he just chose to pay you then it wouldn't be disrespectful considering you initiated the deal. If you still think it would be disrespectful, then your method of teaching is . . .problematic to say least.

@@robert-nc9lc My son, age 22, soon realized he could no longer buy PlayStation cards and started to clean himself when he saw how quickly his pocket money was being eaten up by being lazy. BTW, in Germany a cleaner cost betwenn €11 and €20 an hour plus mileage. As a mother to ask a grown child to clean his room and he refuses is DISRESPECTFUL. We live together because of high cost of living and that my son is still going to polytech. He's grown and should be respectful of house rules especially as I am not charging him to live with me as his income as an apprentice is very small. This means taking part in the looking after house, cooking dinner twice a week and doing his own laundry. I refuse to raise my son like my husband was raised: he rarely helped me with our child, never did housework, but expected me to also pay half the bills. The entitlement was huge and my son saw how I was mistreated as a mother. I want that cycle of entitlement and abuse to stop with my son who hates doing house work. I told my son if he doesn't want to end up like hus father: divorced, then he needs to LEARN how to be a good husband/partner to his spouse. This includes understanding that housework needs to be done and it is not the wife's responsibility unless both partners agree to such an arrangement. I don't agree with my grown a$$ son sitting on his arse expecting to live in hotel mama, when I work 48 a week! If you have an issue with my methids, that's on you.

I have 2 sons they wash dishes, mop, take the trash out cook, clean the bathroom and much more. I tell them they can't take their mom with them to college. But, also these very skills will help them live on their own. So my wife and I can have our time.

@@robert-nc9lc That's because she isn't your mom. Lots of kids think of mom cleaning the house as a "free service" and would be shocked to be billed for it. Good for her.

She must be HOT! ...or you are still having those crazy dreams...

That sounds like she needs a therapist to help her deal with her unnecessary guilt. That’s doesn’t sound like good communication that’s sounds like you take advantage of your wife poor mental health. Read what you wrote back to yourself. Out loud.

@@tracim3080 Ya, if im being honest, you sound like the one that needs therapy as you are clearly triggered by my statement all while you assume a ton about my amazing wife. You have no idea how she was raised or how we communicate or even how the chores play out. In fact the reality is the kids do most of the chores and we have a cleaner come in. So in reality the ONLY chores she does is cook about once or twice a week and we grocery shop most times together. The kids cook their own lunches for school and do all laundry for extra money to buy what they want. Yet here you are asserting your ignorant triggered opinion upon a faceless man... Go get therapy. My wife and and I will be busy being happy and proud of our kids. Oh, and fyi I'm their stepdad who stepped up, but please tell me how bad I am lol.

Same lol

Unfortunately, some people I think just try to create problems in relationships. I never understood it. It's hard enough trying to get along with another person for years on end.

@@de6212 it's all about love, respect and commitment. Without all that you have nothing.

@@AbdulKhader-786 😘

Actually kids are usually disciplined by moms. The idea of “wait until your dad gets home” is leftover from bad 1960’s sitcoms that didn’t really reflect life of woman but the imagination of the male writers of the time.

Than you have chosen wisely..

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Is she paying most of the bills? Is she maintaining the cars? Cutting the grass? Shoveling the snow? Yeah you have to be honest about ALL of the things it takes to run a family. I agree with you on parenting though. That absolutely needs to be 50/50. Men shoot themselves in the foot by letting that number get out of balance and saying "well i pay for x" thats not good enough

If she's not doing the majority of the housework, why am I there? What benefits are left for men in marriages at this point? Just sex and kids?

@@djangomarine6658 it’s a partnership. We each play to our own strengths, we each do what we are better at and it is easier. We can be greater than the sum of our parts if we build each other up, support each other, communicate. It’s not a competition, you should be in it together. And it should be way more than sex, then the sex is amazing.

What a burden! It's so tiring to think that you did everything for over a decade-and-a-half! It should be more 50/50. I mean why not?. Just because someone has female genitalia doesn't mean they're going to want to spend excessive amount of time on home upkeep! Male or female, nobody wants to do extra work for no reason! Expecially when individuals cleaning up after somebody else who should be perfectly capable of picking up after themselves! It's commendable that you did it for so long! I'm just sorry that you can't because of whatever disability. But I'm even saddened that after all that time of you putting in the work, your husband can't reciprocate..? That sucks! Sure it's not easy I hate chores myself but it's clearly his turn. U did 15yrs (efficiently), now he can, even subpar would be ok..at least w effort. Or if he can't himself maybe he can pay for a housekeeper, one way or another I hope he finds a way to keep house for u (the both of u) out of respect and appreciation for the way you kept it all those years. And I'm sorry you never got a break. It's like you've been doing this excessive work since childhood. And now can't. but I hope somewhere along those times u got at least a little break.

*Incels:* Women don't even fight on the front lines! Where's the equality there, huh?? *Also incels:* I want a trad-wife who cooks and cleans! *Also incels:* This study I didn't read isn't even accurate, because [personal anecdote]! *Also incels:* Women are soo emotional!!! Only us men are logical and stoic rocks of few words, like living marble! Reee!

Any man who challenges a womans narrative is an incel. There are videos of women with no job and live solely off their husband talking about how "he does nothing. Why do i even need him?" Meanwhile he is literally paying for everything and she doesn't have to work. So yeah, not every woman is some downtrodden angel married to a brute. Some women are just spoiled and entitled. Some women choose men of poor character and then blame all men. If you choose men based on how hot they make you feel, dont expect sympathy when you find out they dont vaccuum.

The cultural shift took place 75 years ago during the Civil Rights movement and when women entered the job market full-time in the 70s. That men refuse to step up to the plate is the issue. If a couple is in a traditional marriage, I can respect that. However, most women bring income and are EXPECTED to help pay the rent and bills. If there are kids, the wife's income also pays for clothes and shoes while the man still gets to keep the majority of hus income, not help out in household chores nor raise his kids. That's entitlement and not fair. Hence the high rates of divorce. Women aren't tolerating being married but single mothers because some husbands demand to be treated like their fathers and grandfathers.

​@@fredrika27 Modern women help with the mortgage, and we help with the housework. That's still your main role like providing, protecting and courting is still our main role. If we have to do half of that too, while you're not doing half of man's traditional stuff like trash, plumbing, electrics, car maintenance, shoveling snow, lawn care, critter clearing, drywall, fixtures, clearing gutters, etc then it's a raw deal for us, we can all just be happier single and you can do all the housework by yourself at your own place.

And how often do those repairs happen, including getting professionals to do them? As a woman who grew up and still to this day does all the repairs in my home, even I know and can admit that the daily chores are the most annoying and tedious ones. Stripping a room, fixing the electrical work, putting up new sheetrock, etc., are all very annoying however I don't have to do that everyday bc if that was the case, I should definitely be talking to a professional as that type of work should be lasting decades if done well.

​@@marieblade0613 in the winter shoveling is an almost daily occurrence. In the summer, outdoor work is an almost daily occurrence. I dont think every task should be shared. Thats idiotic. Everyone should come to an agreement on what to do and then do it. If you dont want to shovel snow in the winter, i will. If i dont want to vacuum and you dont mind, that's your job. Assuming you had an adult conversation with your partner and agreed to a distribution of labour why are you still complaining?

@C I am the one that does all those things, and again, unless you live in an area where it snows daily, or the yard becomes a mess every single day, those chores are not comparable. It's not that every task should be shared, but the responsibility of maintaining a household should be split evenly. Daily chores: split. Weekly chores: split. Monthly chores: split. Seasonal chores: split. It's not difficult to come to a compromise so that one partner doesn't feel overworked and exhausted while the other is chilling drinking a beer.

So does the woman if she is living alone, what is your point?😅

Fair enough; but what would you think if the woman had the full time job and the guy did all the domestic work. I presume that would be ok with you?

not forcing women to do everything is regressive?ykes

@@daveedcramber "Forcing women to do everything" . No.