SurRon ULTRA Bee UPGRADE! Testing NEW 21/18 Wheels

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Testing the NEW 21/18 KKE Wheel Set on the 2023 Surron Ultra Bee.
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These KKE Ultra Bee Wheels are the First Upgrade we've tried with our Ultra Bee test bike. If you're looking to upgrade your wheels and want the most affordable option for the new 2023 Surron Ultra Bee, the KKE 21/18 Complete Wheel Set is a great choice.
These KKE Wheels come in at a very affordable price and is a great modification to the Sur ron Ultra Bee while keeping prices low.
KKE is the OEM supplier for the stock wheels on Surron bikes. You can visit KKE directly here: bit.ly/KKERacing or find them for sale at ECR Parts here: bit.ly/UltraBeeKKEWheels
KKE 21/18 Wheel Set Rim Size:
Front Rim - 21in x 1.6in
Rear Rim - 18in x 2.15in
Tires we're running in this video:
Front Tire - Bridgestone M59 80/100-21
Rear Tire - Dunlop MX33 90/100-18
Your Stock Brake Rotor & Sprocket fit on these KKE Wheels
Be aware running the 18/21 setup makes the traction control not usable!
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@ElectricCycleRider Жыл бұрын

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@TheWakeupsheeple Жыл бұрын

Can we purchase just the front wheel in 21.

@vvvv7965 Жыл бұрын

❤

@krispewkrem3 Жыл бұрын

Just something I wanna add that explains what makes electric so unique. I have a WR250R and a YZ250. I used to own a 14kw Kuberg Ranger and used to own a Sur Ron LBX. On paper the YZ250 should be the best performing bike. But it’s ridiculous hard to ride and get the power down and deal with the stuff suspension. I am consistently faster on WR250R and it’s comfier through harsh terrain siting or standing. But both of these bikes make my physically tired and sweaty. I surf hours a day and workout so it’s not just me. The Sur Ron, despite being down on power, was as fast or faster than similarly skilled riders on gas bikes. It’s just absolute cheat codes. I didn’t even think of maintenance besides tires, tubes, brake pads, and washing it. Which washing an electric bike is ten times easier than gas. Don’t let the brochure sell you on that YZ or KTM, especially as a newer rider. For experienced riders, obviously these are less capable, but offer a unique experience.

@AverageDaveVideos Жыл бұрын

I have been riding for 10 years (KLX, YZ250 [2 stroke], WR400, pit bikes) and I have improved immensely with my Talaria in one year than it feels like all of those combined.

@MHF_H Жыл бұрын

heavier the bike, more tiring to ride

@user-yg3um5hc2x Ай бұрын

This isn’t a light bee it’s much more powerful and better suspension

@ark6959 Жыл бұрын

Man, your air filter is going to be a mess!🤣. That bike is looking really good. Cheers Tucker!

@ElectricCycleRider Жыл бұрын

@Introvert Adventurer The air filters are hard to find for these bikes right now!!

@ark6959 Жыл бұрын

@@ElectricCycleRider it’s right below your goggles, haha! 😷

@bcrproductions3862 Жыл бұрын

@@ElectricCycleRider 🪂🚭⚕🏴‍☠

@samdunbar7259 Жыл бұрын

Good one… But the camera man’s lungs😵‍💫

@donaldkillian9864 Жыл бұрын

Air filter ?

@gregorygregsson8946 Жыл бұрын

Pre-ordered my Ultra a couple of days ago, so excited! Love the videos! Keep up the good work!

@ElectricCycleRider Жыл бұрын

@Gregory Gregsson Awesome! Such a fun bike. Really enjoying this one.

@DukeFerg Жыл бұрын

FANTASTIC VIDEO. I need more content of this bike immediately to fill the gap until I get one in the coming months

@ElectricCycleRider Жыл бұрын

@DukeFerg Thanks! We're trying to churn out as much Ultra Bee content as we can!

@VMX0127 Жыл бұрын

I have to say that it's really a good corner!thank you fou making this video!

@russellbonanza7355 Жыл бұрын

Great ride looks like you’re having tons of fun in that sand! What a difference with that set up from what I have seen a couple of weeks ago! 🤙🏼

@ElectricCycleRider Жыл бұрын

@Russell Bonanza Huge difference!

@Hobbies4Hire Жыл бұрын

Great job on the video! Thanks for making it.

@ElectricCycleRider Жыл бұрын

@Hobbies4Hire Thanks!👍

@CncObsession Жыл бұрын

Nice video, looks plenty fun in the woods.

@bb-man Жыл бұрын

Love the video’s on the new Ultra! I want to see more videos!!!

@ElectricCycleRider Жыл бұрын

@Brian We'll keep making them!

@clemp3010 Жыл бұрын

This is finally a bike I can get excited about. Now we just need a lowering kit for smaller folks like my wife. I would probably sell our bikes for these. I want a dirt bike that looks and rides like a dirt bike, not a mountain bike. 40+ mile range trail riding on eco mode would be awesome, and I love that it's under 200 lbs. Keeping my fingers crossed on the range. Love it's 110 and can be charged from a generator while camping. Oh, and actually affordable!

@prawnis 11 ай бұрын

divide range by 2 on all electric vehicles, for real world riding. Eco mode is so weak you can barley go up a 30 degree incline

@clemp3010 11 ай бұрын

@@prawnis Thanks! Good to know.

@nolifeclickhere 5 ай бұрын

I’ve seen lowering kits online

@jetrep Жыл бұрын

Thanks for making these videos. Not much content on this bike right now

@ElectricCycleRider Жыл бұрын

@jetrep 👍👍

@DingDongDrift Жыл бұрын

i'm 6'4" and 200lbs, i still can't decide between the ultra bee and storm bee, especially because you keep uploading these great videos hyping the ultra bee lol.

@ElectricCycleRider Жыл бұрын

@Ding Dong Drift Haha, tough call! The Storm Bee will probably fit you more comfortably but the extra 100 pounds is very noticeable on that bike. Just depends what experience you're after. If you went with the Ultra Bee, would you plan to modify it or keep it stock?

@DingDongDrift Жыл бұрын

@@ElectricCycleRider i would most definitely modify it. I'm scared about the lower power of it since I'm a big boy. But if power mods are already incoming then it's easing my decision towards the ultra.

@eddieb3915 Жыл бұрын

6'5", 210 lb old man here. I went with the Ultra Bee cause single track. No way I would want to wrestle a 280 lb dirt bike around the trails. Can't wait to try the Ultra Bee on my favorite trails. Planning on bar risers, possibly taller bars, lowered pegs, tall seat. Will have to see if anyone is offering these bits, I would think they would sell a ton of them. If not, I will see about cobbling together what I can on the tall seat and lowered pegs situation.

@cyrus2574 Жыл бұрын

@@eddieb3915where did you get it from

@jackbuaer3828 Жыл бұрын

At 6'2"" (which is not overly tall), would any modifications to accommodate my height be suggested? Any feedback would be appreciated. I have already ordered the bike.

@mrskywalker115 Жыл бұрын

I think this is gonna be the ultimate setup for the TKO when wrapped in some gummies. If I get another electric bike this is gonna be it but too much invested in my hard enduro surron build to jump ship now haha

@ElectricCycleRider Жыл бұрын

@mrskywalker115 I'm sure we'll see Ultra's on the line at TKO 23!!

@Reuklef Жыл бұрын

Great content and videos! I finally want to get off a road ICE bike and onto a electric dirt bike. My experience off the road is next to non existent, but I'm eager to transition. I'd be looking more into dual sporting and relaxed trail riding. I'm really torn between the more affordable Ultra Bee and the higher range and size on the Storm Bee. Now after seeing the 21/18 Ultra Bee, which lost the TC, but looks and feels more like a full sized. I can't get the question out of my head how I'd would stake up against a Storm Bee with upgraded suspension? which you pointed out as it's weakest

@Garren.B Жыл бұрын

3:58 min mark - that was one hell of a transition. Well done!

@dam1k3 Жыл бұрын

Hello ECR, best regards from Austria! It would be great if you could try a 19/16 wheel combo and how that does effect the handling and range of the Ultra Bee. Maybe the front will also be less twitchy, if the rear of the bike sits lower. I think it would be really interesting for smaller riders like me out there, I'm about 5'6'' and 139lbs without gear. I am watching your videos since the SurRon LBX got released and just has to say thanks for your great work!

@pauldanrich3919 Жыл бұрын

Pre-ordered the bike, and I’m not even going to ride it with the wheels, switching to 21/18 was the plan all along, I kind of guessed it would be that much better, however, riding the bike on and off-road, especially if it’s hard packed, I found trials tires work really well on both street and hard packed dirt, so probably will go 19 inch rear with a 3.5 Shinko trials tire in the rear, matching 21” Shinko front.

@sklabrun Жыл бұрын

Where did you order it?

@pauldanrich3919 Жыл бұрын

@@sklabrun Long Island Kawasaki - Yamaha, in New York, once they come in, they will ship to me👍

@eddieb3915 Жыл бұрын

Any thoughts on a good tire combo for the KKE 21/18 wheel set that is better suited for the wet PacNW gnar? My current favorites are Shinko MX216 front and IRC VE33S Gekko for the rear, but I fear they may be too heavy for the Ultra Bee (haven't checked weights yet). Anyone with leads on good light, all around wet, rocks, roots, but also sand and hard pack too (we got it all!) tires, please chime in. And thanks for the great video!

@electronracer Жыл бұрын

Looks like a solid little Hare Scramble machine!

@ElectricCycleRider Жыл бұрын

@Electron Racer 100%

@piotrklimontowicz2480 Жыл бұрын

It looks so better :D

@CHUNKYNUGGET666 Жыл бұрын

Man that’s a beast

@fabriciocarneiro3978 Жыл бұрын

Great video! Do you plan on doing a video on the Arctic Leopard nay time soon? Curious to see what you think of it

@gsu1972crew Жыл бұрын

How does the power compare to the Escape R? I have the Ultra on order (along with the Varg) and currently have the Escape R and the Alta MXR. I loved the Alta until I got the Escape R. The 187 lb Escape is just too dang fun in the backyard whereas the Alta suddenly felt like a tank. I'm 6'4/220 and the Escape just feels a little small and oddly the bars feel so far. With the Ultra coming in at the same weight but having a more traditional dirt bike frame I'm hoping it might be perfect. At 187 lbs the escape is the closest thing I have to compare it to, and you have ridden both extensively.

@sdean2294 Жыл бұрын

Get it! Ride it for all it's worth! Great video!

@ElectricCycleRider Жыл бұрын

@Dean Film Works 🙌

@VoltedAdventures Жыл бұрын

Bike looks great 🤙🏼

@VoltedAdventures Жыл бұрын

🫡

@Al3xDk Жыл бұрын

Finally with an enduro wheel set ! This bike just need a better battery and controller and it should be perfect !

@jbird1173 7 ай бұрын

Just mounted my 18/21 and 16/19 on my wifes light bee. Heading to croom tomorrow to see how well they work

@autohog Жыл бұрын

Great vid! How does this setup compare to a KTM freeride in your opinion? Would love to see a comparison review once you gear down the Ultra Bee 👍

@ElectricCycleRider Жыл бұрын

@chris Maybe we'll do a head to head video with the 2 bikes! They're honestly very similar in a lot of ways. The biggest difference is the weight. The Ultra is about 60-65 pounds lighter than the Freeride. Power feels pretty similar with the edge going to KTM. KTM's suspension is better and it comes with 21/18 stock. What would be very interesting is putting $4,500-$5,000 into the Ultra to bring it into KTM Freeride price territory and then see how they stack up. I think that would be pretty interesting!!

@OMSJudd Жыл бұрын

Tubes, tubeless or mousse. Which do you prefer on this bike in mountain single track

@nhojyelbom Жыл бұрын

want to know what kind of power the stock bms limits are with a new controller! have 2 on the way and x9000 is going on one

@davidmcdermott3415 Жыл бұрын

This might really be my next bike. So what gear ratio do you think it needs?

@RCKStudio23 Жыл бұрын

cool,nice

@marianhalmo8363 11 ай бұрын

Hello, I have a question? With this style of driving and the difficulty of the terrain, how long did the battery last in this video, thank you for your quick reply.

@joshwelch8020 Жыл бұрын

Is it a bad idea to want to get an ultra bee and turn it into a street style bike with slick tires and mirrors type stuff?

@Surfratglass Жыл бұрын

Wil the front tire hit the fender at full bottom out?

@survivalishardstaystorng Жыл бұрын

You got to remember that the ground changes from day-to-day what I mean by that is moisture content and temperature the right moisture content mixed with the right amount of material depending on the material can make the ground very good for traction with knobby tires dryer days not so good really wet days even worse but they're right amount of moisture mixed with the certain content of material can make a very good traction

@kiwimon3204 Жыл бұрын

Is the 21/18 combo good on the roads. Stability at speed than stock?

@ottokirk2325 Жыл бұрын

Mtb 29+/27.5+ could work quite well for typical conditions for trails and hard-pack. Which ever matches 21"/19" MC tire diameter. Downhill mtb have good highspeed traction. Stays light whilst improving handling. Still need gearing change of course.

@surronsd Жыл бұрын

This would not be a good idea with a bike that weighs 186lbs without rider and has this kind of power. Downhill mtb wheel is way too narrow, wouldn’t provide enough traction and spokes are way too small to handle high lateral loads on wheels in corners. Downhill mtb wheels are not good even on the smaller surron lightbee again due to weight of bike plus rider.

@itai1980 8 ай бұрын

Quick question to you electric cycle rider which tires did you use or recommend for riding in Croom like terrain

@michaelcotherman2402 Жыл бұрын

if you got a sticker for croom, what did you supply to get it?

@rwolfcastle Жыл бұрын

Thoughts on a 2020 Freeride EX-C with big rear brake, two batteries,foot pegs, fat bars and tuned suspension for $6,900 or an Ultra Bee with 18/21 for $7,300?

@gabriellebenard5254 Жыл бұрын

awesome ! Did you see that there's a new talaria sting ? The talaria sting R.

@ElectricCycleRider Жыл бұрын

@Gabrielle Bénard For sure! I tested the Talaria Sting R back in February and just posted a quick first ride with the bike here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/grqTrMZ-ys7Poas.html Thanks for watching and you know where to reach me if you have questions! 👍

@theshreditor625 Жыл бұрын

What if a 18” tire had the same diameter as the 19” stock tire? Would ASR still work? Or is any good 18” Mx tire going to be way bigger than the stock 19” tire diameter?

@ozbarak8773 Жыл бұрын

Cool So any chance the company will release a mode that tracktion control can work with 21 18 ?

@bayareadirtbiking249 Жыл бұрын

What is the seat height with the 21/18 wheels/tires?

@BraapPacker Жыл бұрын

Can you do a range comparison with the 21/18s to stock please

@bcrproductions3862 Жыл бұрын

The 21" Wheels are a HUGE improvement, The SAND is Making me want to RIDE!! @ the Coast or Christmas Valley, OR , Are those trails in Colorado?

@ElectricCycleRider Жыл бұрын

@BCR Productions Testing in Florida in this video!

@nobrakes7247 Жыл бұрын

Did you contact Darren and ask if they will be able to set the traction control for different size wheels on the rear!.

@scottroush8856 Жыл бұрын

Looks like lots of room in that swing arm/rear sprocket/ jack shaft combo for more of a moto 18” tire vs the small sidewalls of the ones that fit in the light bee. How big do you think would fit?

@ElectricCycleRider Жыл бұрын

@Scott Roush There is definitely a lot of room to work with. By going up a size from the 90/100-18 I am running in this video to a 100/100-18, you would open up a lot more tire options. I think this bike will clear a 100/100-18 no problem, and potentially wider, but I would recommend staying at the 100/100-18 for maximum range and performance, even if the bike gets a controller update. We will confirm all of this moving forward!

@dolby042002 Жыл бұрын

What tube on the rear are you using 100/100x18 tusk?

@coltenfisher7329 Жыл бұрын

I’m going x9000 and 21/18 and I think I’m cutting it at that maybe sprocket. 17kw on stock battery no bypass

@timsalabimbombassa 10 ай бұрын

Isn’t the geometry to be corrected for the front standing higher?

@y2k1307 3 ай бұрын

Can you confirm if your store offers the option of purchasing rims along with a complete set of tires? I've been searching, but it doesn't seem to be available. You also mentioned feeling a power decrease after switching to the 18-inch and 21-inch rims. Is this a significant loss or just slightly noticeable? Would it be viable to keep the 19-inch rim on the rear and only switch to a 21-inch rim in the front, or would that be impractical? My bike is completely stock and will primarily be used on fire-line trails. I just acquired it yesterday.

@qmagic5864 Жыл бұрын

Amazing and the Rider ride the horse whitout fear too 😎👊👊👊👊

@tonyrichengod9280 Жыл бұрын

Amazing woods track! Where is this?

@FortGeo1312 Жыл бұрын

Is the speedometer still working correctly?

@dansacco1964 Жыл бұрын

What are the traction control speed pickup sensors like? Is it small steel disk with slots or a ring with magnets? Just thinking they could be easily swapped with different teeth to match the wheels for the computer.

@ElectricCycleRider Жыл бұрын

@Dan Sacco The traction control sensors are small discs with slots.

@dansacco1964 Жыл бұрын

@@ElectricCycleRider Cool. Id be willing to bet the number of slots could be altered to match the ratio of the different wheel sizes and the traction control would work again. I think the TC needs to see the same speed (slots per second) on both tires. Right now the larger front tire turns less RPM at the same speed so the TC probably thinks the rear is slipping all the time. Sounds like an easy aftermarket fix if it works the way I'm thinking.

@christopherdoyle2144 Жыл бұрын

Another great video as usual! Three things...What kind of range are you getting with this setup in this terrain? What are your impressions of the primary belt durability so far? Wouldn't a 19x1.85 rear wheel with a 100/90-19 tire be a lighter and better suited setup for this?

@ElectricCycleRider Жыл бұрын

@Christopher Doyle Range is really tough to gauge in this type of terrain but with this wheel/tire combo in the deep sand, running flat out in sport mode, I'm experiencing roughly 16-18 miles which is about a 10-20% decrease from what I was seeing with the stock wheel/tire combo in these deep sand conditions. The primary belt has not given me any issues so far and the mechanism used to tighten the belt is much superior than the Light Bee X. Running an upgraded 19x1.85 (wider than the stock 1.60) rim and a 19" rear tire is definitely a possibility and should be an overall lighter option. We'll be offering a 19" rear for the Excel and Warp 9 wheel sets. Currently the KKE is only being offered with an 18" rear. Whether or not the 19" or 18" rear is better depends on the rider and application. It may be somewhat lighter but I personally prefer to run the 18", especially when the bike heads back to Colorado and we start doing some mountain riding. The extra rubber gives much more traction and forgiveness in the rough stuff. I'll trade that benefit over saving some ounces because I don't think the weight savings is really enough to noticeably improve battery range. It will still be significantly heavier than stock. Just my $0.02!

@christopherdoyle2144 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the reply! Sounds good and I'll continue looking forward to the content you produce!

@martialbetesteve6524 Жыл бұрын

@@ElectricCycleRider what about an 18x1.85? I think it will fit better with the 90/100-18 or a 120/90 18" mitas enduro

@Perry-666 Жыл бұрын

What happens if you leave the traction control on?

@michaelanderson3771 Жыл бұрын

The 21" front adds a larger gyroscopic force to help stabilise the front end on the bike but also adds weight as you pointed out. Going bigger 18" in rear as you stated need larger rear sprocket to keep final rolling ratio the same as stock.

@josh_ari 11 ай бұрын

i think this moto comes with 19" front and back, so he went smaller in the back if he went 18", but yeah you're right, he changed the back wheel size so a slight sprocket change might be in order.

@Trad-Am 2 ай бұрын

Go down a tooth on the counter sprocket, it's like adding 2 to the rear. Might even be able to go down 2 without needing a different chain.

@How2Bcool2124 Жыл бұрын

Can you make an instructional video on how to remove the rear wheel?

@davidesarey Жыл бұрын

Awesome! Just ordered one. Q: What do you think about the front light? I have an extra MONTEER 8000S GALAXY. Maybe remove the light then add a front number plate. to make it more MX. What are your thoughts?

@surronsd Жыл бұрын

Just added a Baja designs squadron pro on my ultra and it’s a game changer.

@M3rwin6 2 ай бұрын

Did you notice that these wheels rub / bottom out on the fenders during big hits? Are there any solutions to this issue?

@adventure.greg80 8 ай бұрын

Hello, have you noticed a drop in battery life, with the 21' and 18' wheels?

@jetrep Жыл бұрын

Have you considered trying 21 front with stock rear wheel? It'd be interesting to hear how that performs

@joshjorgensen2476 Жыл бұрын

Charged cycle works is selling them with 21 upgraded fronts as an option they would b able to answer this soon.

@ElectricCycleRider Жыл бұрын

@jetrep It's a great thought but the stock 19" rear rim is only 1.60" wide, which is arguably too narrow to safely run a traditional 19" rear MX tire, so it really limits the rear tire options. You'd either be stuck running the stock 80/100x19 CST tire, you could run a Shinko 241 or 244, or you could do what we used to do in the early SurRon LBX days and run a 70/100x19 front tire on the rear, which is a bit of a bummer. All to say, it is possible. Just with some disadvantages.

@surronsd Жыл бұрын

My bike came with a 90/90-19 from the factory in the rear. So yes you could run a 21” only upfront but both the 80/100-19 that comes on the street legal/Asian market and the 90/90-19 that comes on the American off-road version are non existent sizes in the aftermarket world. Running a 100/90-19 would really be pushing the boundaries as tucker stated it’s only 1.6 wide and not 1.85 or 2.15

@happygnomev2576 Жыл бұрын

Compare it to the Freeride!!

@ElectricCycleRider Жыл бұрын

@HappyGnome v2 Noted! We just may have to do that video...

@yoda68zac11 Жыл бұрын

Is it because the wheels aren't the same size that you can't use traction control? The computer may be able to be updated in the future in that case? I can see "tc" being handy in some situations. Comparison I'd like to see is spend what you need an a light bee to make it as good as can be then spend that much on this ultra bee and see whats best. Keeping in mind that if I look at a light bee in the first place I'm probably looking at tight twisty terrain anyway.

@surronsd Жыл бұрын

The ring that bolts to the wheel can be swapped to accommodate the different diameters and correct the traction control. Currently the rings they use are meant for 19/19 wheels

@Hj61S827 8 ай бұрын

Just ordered from Double Spring, 5870 shipped! Talk to Muriel !

@winbouzhou481 Жыл бұрын

What’s the best way to make this bike go faster? A new controller?

@timking2822 Жыл бұрын

Impressive in deep sand.

@MrBuildAPC Жыл бұрын

How much more room for rear tires is there on the Ultra bee compared to light bee? Want to run Skinko 777 100/90-19 on a spare set of stock 19" wheels and was wondering if I could possibly fit something even wider.

@surronsd Жыл бұрын

They’ve already been swapped with a 120 size rear tire and that’s pretty darn large so I imagine you’ll be fine

@YtCyi Жыл бұрын

whats traction control

@Clownworld24seven Жыл бұрын

Hearing a lot of clicks in this video, it was the same sound in Sam Pilgrims video?? Any idea what this might be

@eddieb3915 Жыл бұрын

Another great video, thank you! You just killed my plan to NOT buy a 21/18" wheel set and just upgrade the 19" tires and be happy with it. Thanks a lot! I knew this was going to happen, Lol.

@ElectricCycleRider Жыл бұрын

@Eddie B You'll love the 21/18 setup for woods riding!!

@kiwimon3204 Жыл бұрын

Wats a good street tyre for the stock rims?

@meahow5863 Жыл бұрын

When you bottom out the fork would the front wheel get stuck because the forks seem too small for a 21 in front wheel?

@ElectricCycleRider Жыл бұрын

@meahow I was expecting that to be an issue but so far it hasn't been a problem. We will see once we start pushing it some more but so far, so good.

@AmpedUpMoto Жыл бұрын

We're at a point where you have to choose the best fit, especially if you ride motocross. My initial idea was converting my 07cr250r to electric because I have everything Moto already, and I'll just add electric. My worry is the power but think I can deal with what's out there. But you said something that caught my thought as far as the size and that you might not want the full size. That hot me because when I've ever thought about the MX bike is that I wish it was a little lighter and after hearing the storm is more like an Enduro bike with added weight my wonders build up. Riding moto I thought the storm would be it but do I want that size when it comes to something different!? I'll always have my 2t's but getting something a little more nibble without the intimidating sound and vibration. Good question. Do I want full size? Riding motocross will beat it up so well see how ultra handles it in time. Here hoping it can.

@huisman111 Жыл бұрын

im in the same boat as you, was a 250 2 stroke racer but now i just wheelie my surron and my 250 sits in the garage a lot more.. my plan is to wait it out another year and let aftermarket parts come out for the ultra bee.. and like you said we need to see how it handles another moto rider using it for a year. only then ill make a decision! lol seems like a sweet bike if you put the 21/18's on and maybe just a controller is all it will need cause its already a big battery

@johnrokosjr7602 9 ай бұрын

It would be nice if 2024 model would come with the bigger wheels or as an opt option !

@ThaReilDeal Жыл бұрын

where can you buy the bike i want one now

@evltwin984 Жыл бұрын

Hi do you know of anyone doing a 19"x 2.15 rear for these yet? Been trying everywhere, thx

@Trad-Am 2 ай бұрын

Sure would be nice, if you could just put some DID dirt star, or excel wheels on them, with a standard ktm axle size.

@bryanm.3026 Жыл бұрын

just starting my research into these...is running the stock 19 up front with an aftermarket 18" rear wheel an option?

@tintin6291 Жыл бұрын

That wouldn't make sense. If anything do a 19/21. Not a 18/19

@gsu1972crew Жыл бұрын

Will a 110/100-18 rear work with this bike and the KKE wheel? I just pre-ordered the wheels and already have the tire so that would be great.

@surronsd Жыл бұрын

Yes that size will work, a 120/100-18 has been test fit and works but way too heavy

@mattcgtx4809 Жыл бұрын

When you go to a larger back sprocket does it increase or decrease the overall battery range??

@surronsd Жыл бұрын

Depends on the terrain your riding in, what we found is typically the larger sprocket gives better range in stop and go riding, trails with lots of elevation change and more technical riding. Higher speed riding (fire roads, street etc) bigger sprocket will eat up more. Biggest upgrade we’ve noticed for improving range and power is to go up in sprocket size minimally (50t vs stock 46t) go with a roller chain and ditch the stock oring chain.

@dannsiah5659 Жыл бұрын

What about 19/16 setup on the ultra bee.

@MrMrMrMrMrT 11 ай бұрын

I have an update, the ASR actually works perfectly. Even nicer than it was before. At A1, you can pull a half wheelie before it regulates it down. At A2 it doesn't allow for wheel spin/wheelie but there is no significant power loss. At A3, there is about half the power. I run Michelin Trackers, 80/100-21, 100/100-18. So the front tyre is definitely bigger, ASR stil works. Chopper wheel plates still stock.

@corybilyeu6261 11 ай бұрын

are you saying that the traction control still works with the 21, 18 wheels?

@MrMrMrMrMrT 11 ай бұрын

@@corybilyeu6261 yes, exactly that! Just you have more difference between the modes, like described above.

@kazuya2630 Жыл бұрын

We need the ultimate KTM vs. ULTRA comparison my bro! Who is with me?

@jimji2774 6 ай бұрын

21" x 18" from 19"x 19" would also raise the front end and lower the back so changing the weight distribution significantly which you didn't mention. Seems like that would be a big change to the handling of the bike and sounds like in a positive way for you.

@jimji2774 6 ай бұрын

$600 ouch !

@yournumberonepal Жыл бұрын

Seems like for the price, this is well worth it compared to a modded X.

@user-yv8kd2jo2x Жыл бұрын

Talaria needs a bike to compete with the ultra. That would be a home run...

@davecook81 Жыл бұрын

💯‼️

@evltwin984 Жыл бұрын

Can you make a 21/19 set?

@mikeraymond5681 Жыл бұрын

Do the wheel sensors not carry over to the new rims? I know you can reprogram the ratio in the computer like the Storm Bee.

@ElectricCycleRider Жыл бұрын

@Mike Raymond The discs carry over and we are actually running them on these rims in this video but because of the different size of the wheels, the bike does not interpret the speed the same. Something I imagine they can update but currently TC does not work with the 21/18.

@mikeraymond5681 Жыл бұрын

@@ElectricCycleRider In the storm bee you can change the ratio on the dash. Since the storm bee runs similar wheel set is the software not the same? Forgive my ignorance since I don't have the ultra bee yet. Or I could just be interpreting the issue wrong.

@chupapi5715 Жыл бұрын

Question are there any plastics you can put on the ultra bee?

@ElectricCycleRider Жыл бұрын

@Chupapi Not currently but expect to see options soon.

@MrMrMrMrMrT Жыл бұрын

Thanks but, WHY is the traction control not working? You could have at least told that.

@theshreditor625 Жыл бұрын

Any other rim options for it that are a little more affordable?

@ElectricCycleRider Жыл бұрын

@TheShreditor The cheapest option would be that you could lace your stock hubs to an upgraded hoop but it doesn't get much more affordable than $299 for a complete wheel!

@TheFactoryReviews Жыл бұрын

Sounds like you're bothered by the reduced torque. The StormBee solves that. Why not lighten and add better suspension to the Storm, rather than beef up the Ultra? Is the chasis of the Ultra too relaxed? Like my dr650 (which i love BUT its a torquey relaxed trail/city bike)? Im trying to categorize the Storm and Ultra in familiar ICE bike paradigms.

@ElectricCycleRider Жыл бұрын

@J&T LLC I did a comparison video between the Ultra, Storm and LBX and point out those thoughts here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/o86Yipdj2JOniWQ.html I think the Ultra is the winner in the performance category but I am definitely interested to try making the Storm a more performance oriented bike. I just would personally prefer to make the Ultra faster and improve the suspension because I think the final product will be the superior machine! It is just a much more sporty chassis, in my opinion.

@TheFactoryReviews Жыл бұрын

I'm inclined to agree. Id rather set up a 500exc for cross country than try to make a dirtbike out of a 950SuperEnduro. Agreed. (Apologies for the constant ICE reference points!)

@f.m.1808 Жыл бұрын

When can we expect to see the long term review?!🎉

@f.m.1808 Жыл бұрын

would traction control still work if you did a 21/19? how would it handle?

@Stephanabradley Жыл бұрын

I had this question too. Seems the traction control must operate off of a differential speed between front and rear - correct? If so, it also seems like you could just change a parameter in the controller to fix that. I am pretty new, so thinking I want that to start out. I also want the 18/21 set-up so struggling with the call.

@surronsd Жыл бұрын

It will not work as the circumference is larger on the front and will complete less rotations then the rear, the inner sensor ring will trip out. Different sensor rings are in development to allow traction control to work with different wheel sizes

@mattcgtx4809 Жыл бұрын

Looks like pretty deep sand Does that make the weight penalty worse?? Would 18/21 perform better on dry hard pack/ rock??

@ElectricCycleRider Жыл бұрын

@mattcgtx These conditions are an absolute killer for performance and range! It's some of the toughest conditions on these electric bikes because they are working so hard to dig through the deep sand. The bike would definitely perform better on harder pack terrain.