_"there is no God, but don’t tell that to my servant, lest he murder me at night?"_ - Voltaire

Easiest conversation we've had.

Some very good points and fears!

First she said religion is harming humanity then she said this universe is pointless.

So many on here calling her arguments weak and simple, what would you rather her do? Create something where there is nothing like you do ? How is this for complex, you all go and decide on which God you believe in and tell us, y'all confusing as hell.

Good!

If your parents said they loved you simply because it’s their instinct and they have no choice in the matter, would you feel loved?

Susan, I'm so happy I have discovered you.😊

She is confuing atheism with humanism. Did religion start WW I & II ?

“Nothing causes more division, hatred and backwardness than religion.” (Paulo Bittencourt)

1. If your parents told you they loved you simply because of their instincts and have no choice in the matter, would you believe they loved you? 2. She uses the terms, "good" and, "better" but what objective basis does she have for those qualifications? She has no objective basis. She just says, "that's how we want to be." Well, Hitler wanted to be a certain way he thought was "good" so would she agree with his assessment of good? No, therefore must be something transcendent and apart from humanity to define what is "good" because obviously we can't depend on ourselves to define it. This goes in conjunction with her point about our instincts leading us to a moral code. Does she think all of our instincts are good? I doubt that because she mentions all the harm people have done to the world. So, if we're a flawed species (which she subtextually admits) we cannot depend on our instincts to always lead us to the good. Like I said, there has to be a principle beyond ourselves/our instincts to which we aspire; a "moral law" if you will. And if there is a moral law, there must be a moral lawgiver (which of course has to be apart from humanity)...which equals God. 3. She's saying that religious people have created a lot of conflict and use religion as a facade to make people believe in the are good people. Yet, by saying this, she claims atheism is the moral path...so couldn't people just use atheism as a facade in the way people used religion? 4. Straw man. She's attacking religion, but you can be anti organized religion and still believe in God/not be an atheist. She should be attacking belief in God at all because that's what atheism means. 5. Cherry picking. She's just focusing on the harm religion has done and ignores all the good it has created for people. 6. Yes, some people use religion to be cruel, but that's not its intended purpose. To get rid of religion on that basis would be like saying get rid of computers because people use them for porn. The bible teaches humility and meekness, so don't discount the bible because some people misuse it. 7. "When people are frightened, they will turn to something that will make them feel better." You mean like when people think they might be going to hell, they turn to atheism and not believe in hell at all. It works both ways so it's a moot point. Also, Christianity doesn't exactly make us feel better. It teaches that we're all sinners and gives commandments that aren't exactly easy to follow. 8. Pointless universe? Let me quote C.S. Lewis. "If the whole universe has no meaning, we should never have found out that it has no meaning: just as if there were no light in the universe and therefore no creatures with eyes, we should never know it was dark. Dark would be without meaning." 9. Why does evolution discount God? Can't evolution be seen as God's process of refining his creations? 10. Scientist posit that it is irrational to believe in anything that cannot be experienced through the senses, yet they obviously believe in rationality which cannot be experienced through the senses.

5:11 “Religion here in Europe has just been gently going away. Lovely! And now it seems to be coming back in this… horrible way with the Christian fundamentalist in the States. Islam.. burgeoning all over the place…”

She believes that she can live her life meaningfully only in denial of God. If, as the Bible claims, her being was given by God (to her surprise) and her life can be meaningful only in God, she's in trouble.

Amen.

I totally agree way too many Religious people don’t even want to obey their God or be good people like Christ would want us to be but rather just wanna fight Atheists and others who disagree with their view and that’s just horrible ❤

How can a being that can define purpose has no purpose at all?

Susan doesn't realize anti-religion is the most divisive stance to hold.

That's the worst answer I've ever heard. Atheists will have an easier time by not believing in God. Wow, what a logical explanation. How about God knew beforehand how one would hate the other over a belief in him. " Do not think I came to bring peace, I came to bring a sword ". A mother will go against her daughter. A father against his son. Your enemies will be those of your own household. God knew that there would be hate in regards to believing in him. He knew your friend or mother would believe, and that would cause strife between the two. No we don't need God to be morally good. But I can look at all the evil in the world and honestly say most aren't morally good. God looked down from Heaven and said " not one person does good ". He is absolutely correct in that statement. Humans are not basically morally good, their evil in their deeds. Whether it be selfishness, lustfulness, hatred of fellow men, cruel to animals, liars, thieves, unforgiving, boastful. Humans are severley lacking in the morally good Dept.

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One more thing.. .this talk about "absolute" and all that ...its actually a nice attribute to serial killers like ted bundy i guess

She hit the nail on the head!!!

I don't agree that religion is the cause of petty disagreements that lead to conflict and war. Yes, petty disagreements are the cause, but that will happen with or without religion because it is caused by competitive egos and not religion perse

Well, this is certainly an indictment of human religious tendencies... kind of boiling it down to, so few people seem to have good religious behavior, that it therefore seems reasonable to avoid the whole thing altogether. (I'll admit to feeling that way about coffee for a long time.) Of course that would also negate the possibility of having any profound religious experiences too. Don't want to feel God's Love? No problem... you certainly won't if you don't want it. But it would be like going thru life never having eaten ice cream... Perhaps not essential to your day to day survival, but oh what a missed opportunity! But if you didn't believe, and you got resurrected anyway... would you be pleased or pissed?

I find the world to be a very mysterious thing. Religion at least helps us confront that mystery, which is finally beyond the scope of science or reason. But I can totally understand why someone would see any religion as a “solution” we’d be better off without. But “the increasing power of science” has nothing to do with this-as David Bentley Hart says in his interview on this channel, that’s a category error. Science deals with material causation: religion simply doesn’t.

I thought she was being ironic at the start and lampooning atheists but she was actually fully serious lolll

Its a strange question. Atheism is the rejection of the god proposition because of lack of evidence. For me, there is only one question that matters on this topic: do you want to believe as many things as possible that are true or not? If you do, then you need a consistent way of testing and validating propositions like “god” in the same way as you would other propositions such as say, an email from a Nigerian Prince telling you he has £20 million for you if you just send him £200.

You’re wonderful Susan love you and may your life be wonderful ❤🔥👏

She claims there can’t be a God because of all the evil in the world but also claimed that humans have evolved to be cooperative/good to each other. Very big contradiction.

So you have to be an atheist not to live and let live? Do you judge every athiest by the actions of other atheist?

“Constant orgies” “Well, I might do that” 😍 I love her

Our thanks go to Bobby and Suzie for the dumbest dialogue since the Big Bang. Could you two possibly do a video on the dangers of reading a book once in a while?

Lovely! Like in Stalin's Russia. Atheism was an essential plank in Stalin's entire ideology and his rule was the most mass murderous, torturing , forced famined nightmare in history. Second only to the regime of that other enthusiastic atheist Mao Tse tung in China. Atheists try to say the two Communists were not atheists, yes! like it looks like a duck, it walks like a duck,it even quaks like a dusk but ut's not really a duck. Pull the other one. If you want to know what a God free country looks like study Stalin's Russia or read 'Mao's Great Famine' by Professor Frank Dicotter, about Mao's atheist China.

She has written very lively stuff on Out of Body Experiences, and has done her homework. A useful hardworking rationalist. I think the best argument against Theism is that it doesn't really make any difference if there is a God or not. It doesn't change what we know about the world. Next question, please...

It seems as if she doesn't think much about it: every argument is quite shallow and banal, the average teenage atheist can do better. I hear lots of emotion and feelings, not much thinking and reasoning. Poor contribution.

I saw a debate Richard Dawkins vs jared diamond n diamond defends religion n makes some compelling arguments none based on truth

she is right, atheism is the best approach , and God is agreed with that

There isn't a spiritual bone in her body.

“You can lead a better life as an athiest” ....so cringey. Worst argument.

Honestly, it is hard to believe the input of a person about one of the biggest questions of philosophy with superficial statements that insinuate that she never even traveled (with her mind nor body) outside Europe in her lifetime. Also, I can't understand how an understatement like atheism is confused with an actual statement provided by religion or humanism....

These are simplistic arguments based on presumptions, such as morality can just exist on its own. We have morals that evolved? And how is that based on the Darwinian concept of survival of the fittest and mutation. You can’t take that for granted just because you want to believe it all came from nothing.

People aren't frightened -- they 're stupid.

Doesn’t science state that religion is built in to the brain, that’s why every culture has it? And Doesnt a religion provide a delusion and hasnt science proven that being non-delusion is more accurate but people who live in a delusion Are happier? So what are you gonna do gravitate towards that which makes you happy or live in reality?

So good to hear someone talking sense and using critical thinking Hallelujah

Her arguments are pretty awful to be fair. Communist regimes, fascist regimes committed some of the worst atrocities ever. Cruelty is part of the human condition. She blames religion, and yet, religion places far more value on human life. Dawkins talked about getting rid of babies with Downs Syndrome for crying out loud. Humans will always take something, and use it to commit cruel things to one another.

What about all the good in the world BECAUSE of religion.

Ok, atheist get rid of religious conflicts... but what about soccer?

I love it but it does fascinate me when people think anyone who believes in god must be either dumb or scared or a combination of the two lol

There is simply no way to switch all people from being religious to Atheism.

mother culture is the real villain here. personally I'm sticking to the mushroom cloud i received to the head...

Sure, people in North Korea have a better life

God does not exist because religion caused damage? who suports that as a sound argument againt god? What about the damage made by someone who does not believe in God? Would that prove atheism is wrong? Please interview an atheist philosopher especialized in this type of discussion. Not any disbeliever for that is a hindrance to atheism itself as well as any believer with his little book is a hindrance to deep theosophy.

The worst atrocities, in history, were done by atheists: Stalin - 20 million deaths Mao Tse-Tung - up to 77 million deaths Hitler (causing WWII) - ~20 million deaths Pol Pot - up to 3 million deaths Tito - 500,000 deaths . But, Sure! Atheism guarantees peace!

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Well said Susan, atheism is the closest to reality, no more godly fairy tales ...

Why is she sad people are religious if “this is a pointless universe”?

"The god of the bible is not real" -- Me

She’s basically saying I’m afraid to believe in anything. To commit. To stand up for myself. I’m afraid to believe even in myself. I don’t want to know peace. I don’t want to know the meaning of anything. I just want to be. And I think you should be ok with just being too. I think she’s a coward. I think something has happened to her to make her deathly afraid, of nearly everything

So the universe created itself out of nothing.

Evolutionary biology provides us with a perfectly clear and unequivocal canon by which to live, and which set of precepts are exquisitely and powerfully transcendent far above that of any religion. At least evolutionary biology does so if rightly elaborated .... SEE BELOW !!!

God is a conclusion from people who do not understand reality

I've read this lady's work, specifically with respect to NDE's, and have found her lack of research and familiarity with data to be shocking. She is ill-qualified to talk about atheism or even any other ideologies because she doesn't have any relevant points. I'd rather listen to someone like Stephen Fry, who I don't believe is an atheist, I actually think he believes in a god but is angry with him/her, but he can make intelligent and funny arguments.

If you listen to this backwards ....you hear it .......Backwards !

Oh sure, take for granted all the gains we have experienced in our civilization that exist in part, due to the presence of religion in the lives of those who wrought those changes, and then write them off in today's society as though they meant nothing... Yes, infighting among the various sects, whether Christian, or Muslim, or Jewish, are a big turn-off. It would seem that any gathering of people can result in political differences, often cloaked as religious, such that they are at each other's throats. When that happens, their religion has failed them. And frankly, if all I had was the Bible to serve as my base, it would be a weak base indeed. But now that we have a new revelation (The Urantia Book) a lot of these arguments fall apart.

The best atheist-Christian debate was between Keith Ward and Michael Ruse on the Unbelievable show. In it Michael Ruse was honest enough to admit that we are just fizzing molecules and have as much value as a table leg.

Most of her critiques are the same ones Jesus spoke of. Just saying.

Probably the most infantile argument against the existence of God ive seen for a while.

It surprises me that a woman who is so we'll educated and a scientist to boot, thinks there is no meaning or purpose to life, when everything else in the universe has meaning and purpose wether she likes it or not!

Pathetic excuses

Shade the Bible at your own peril. Of the 2500 Bible prophecies 2000 have came true the other 500 are in the future. Here is one about the future that may interest you. Revelation 16:12 The sixth angel poured out his bowl on the great river Euphrates, and its water was dried up, to prepare the way for the kings from the east. I will let you discern for yourself if the Euphrates river is really going dry.

Susan has a clear secular mind for sure, not like some hypocrite god-believers and apologists.

I dont like religion so God does not exist? Argument fail . Massively.

Such weak arguments and shallow perspective. This is atrocious to listen to. Closer to truth should step up the quality of interviewees.

This person has not idea about life.