Foleyathome ha ha yea had an ah ha moment as well I've messed with clickers on forks and rear suspension on my ktm in the past doing it all wrong...

Yeah. That's pretty much true in all motorsports. Suspension is all about tractable power, and having just enough damping to keep from bottoming tends to be the way to go. Some riders/drivers will prefer stiffer settings of course but you basically start at the least.

I think he was talking about the difference between vehicle weight and rider/driver weight. So a 30 lb heavier rider on a dirt bike makes more difference for suspension settings than does on a car. I took 18 years off riding and got back into it about 40lbs heavier, and boy, did I have a lot of work to do on my suspension.

If you are still around... yes he did.

Or you could have your friend pull out his phone and record you. Watch it frame by frame and see simple things like is the front tire slamming vs slow launching vs not returning to the ground, the rear wheel kicking then 2nd bouncing when it lands? None of that takes a masters degree to understand. It's pogo stick stuff that I could teach a 10 year old.

@@andrewstambaugh8030 cool bro im sure ur swimming in trophies

@@SLP-eb1wp I don't generally race, not my style. I'm more of a trail rider and have fun dabbling in other things (eventually I will learn to drift my street bikes). When I race, it's just for fun with a group of friends at an endurance race. But the friend I've been helping does race MX, *and yes, he does have a lot of trophies.* (riding skill sufficient to overcome poor bike setups) But why settle for poor, when it's not hard to learn how to improve things? And even at my low off-road riding skill, the differences between the adjusted bikes and before was immediately noticeable (eg, you can cut a new line in the corner and it just bites and does it vs skittering or mushing wide). And yeah, even at my timid lack of skill, I almost doubled my speed on the tiny track we were tuning on. Before, every corner entry was sketchy, it wouldn't bite in the front and it wanted to bounce out of ruts. Powering out was always kinda easy on that bike. Afterwards? The bike would stay where I put it, wouldn't get sketchy on the braking bumps, so I could enter much faster and not almost blow it, could set my own lines, I wasn't getting bounced or climbing out of ruts (just missing them from my own mistakes) and I could just dump on the the throttle carelessly and keep on it. If I was racing myself, I would have lapped myself in about 2-3 laps, so yeah, about doubled.

@@andrewstambaugh8030 Do you work for today's MXA? They are technical today, like you. Not.

you are a perfect candidate to send it to a professional you trust. there's lots of good and bad ones make sure you pick a good one.

Try stiffer springs, very little preload, and less compression dampening. Let the stiffer springs hold the front end up, and compensate the stiffer spring with lighter dampening for good bump reaction.

Haha the same exact thing just happened to me with FC. I got the springs and double checked the rates and was like wtf?

Well that depends on what you weigh to start with

What we used to do if a mistake like that was made, was call them to talk about it, send them back and get the right ones. Race tech is an awesome company. I would suggest you don't do business with them again, to do them a favor. I have actually told a customer of mine, (who acted like you), that I did not want to do business with him ever again, and I gave him my competitions phone number. :)