Praise be to Vectron and his mighty shins!

And the traxxes of wich there are 700 units lol

All hail Vectron!

@@mowogfpv7582 For Vectron!

By Vectron's kindly claw

They have money

@@harmandeepsinghdhillon3214 Not really. Nearly the half live in a rental appartment, becauce it's to not affordable to buy one.

@@tim47275 u didn’t understand, no residents of any country have money in the entire world, this is not how money works I’m talking about institutional money .. money that big firms have .. u often heard people saying , u give rich person 100 he will make it 200 and poor will spent it but spent where on basic needs like food , water which rich already had so he can invest those this is how rich countries can make better technologies because they have money to loose again and again in costly experiments 👍🙂.

@@tim47275 who the hell told you that? For a two room apartment in central Berlin it costs 215,000€. I know because I am looking. Germany is culturally different, that’s why renting is more popular. I’m actually from the U.K., it was a shock to me when I got here and discovered A, most people rent their whole lives, and B, housing is SO MUCH CHEAPER than the U.K. It makes no sense to me but it seems people really do prefer it that way.

@@074042RSB Thats really cheap. In south Germany it costs twice as much.

By Vectron’s kindly claw.

I very much agree. Too intense music in so many ways.

Yes. It looks to me very much as being americanized...... The German original surely doesnt suond like that..... ;)

As an insider, how often do people inside the company make jokes about the name?

No protective eyewear required during the painting process?

@@bavarianbanshee😭

@@ToothyGMD I just wanna know. It's either constant, or never. I don't see any in-between.

Siemens india shouldn't be compared to Siemens germany. 😂

that was our relief from the Italian folly...

These kind of documentaries seems like being made while thinking we the audience are stupid as f*ck and must feed us with glowing show and talk down to us. And so much unnecessary background music. I hate it! Anyway, best wishes to all decent people from Prague, Czech republic!

that´s the power and beauty of standardization and a shared si system, well that and interchangeable wheelsets :)

In 2020s, I would expect pan-European interoperability to be a certain thing, not something to be admired. Moreover, I don't think there are many (if any) Vectrons able to operate throughout the entire Europe, as there's a need for a seperate "national package" for pretty much any country the locomotive is supposed to operate in. That can include anything from a country-specific safety system to a different width of the pantograph. Don't get me wrong, it's been getting better in the past years, but Europe is still far away from having a truly interoperable rail system.

@@RestrictedProceed wtf u on about? You know most are MS version of Vectron? It's on rail operators to run how they see it profitable. You don't seem to understand the concept of rail transport and how it works, just how would you like it to be. Edit: not only Vectron, Traxx, Euro Dual...

@@Inferno-hn3zx The comment I was replying to sounded like it is possible to operate Vectrons throughout the whole Europe, which is not the case. MS (multi-system) means that the locomotive can operate using different voltages, but there are other technical aspects that prevent the locomotives from being fully interoperable. Moreover, there are bureaucratic obstacles as well. The last time I checked, MS version hasn't been authorized for use in Scandinavia, while no version has been authorized in France (the fact that Alstom, one of Siemens's greatest competitors, is a French company is purely coincidental of course). Iberia and Baltic states do not even use the same track gauge. Why am I so obsessed with interoperability? Because it's one of those things that trucking has pretty much by default, but European railways haven't been able to achieve in 100 years since the UIC was founded. As I originally wrote, it is progressively getting better and most key routes no longer require locomotive changes enroute. It's still not the AAR level though, where you slap the power onto a train in Central Ohio and send it all the way to LA.

They are not in the operating in the UK. But then the UK is a whole different story.

Not necessarily. If tracks aren’t electrified you need some other energy source such as fuel

@@noflatscher By onboard generator or electrified track but all locomotive are electrically driven, the documentary make it sound like like it's a revolutionary technology when it's more than 100 years old.

@@realRickSanchez No, actually, many/most of the diesel locomotives in use in Germany are not diesel-electric.

@@noflatscher ?? Most all modern locomotives are electric drive with no electrified rails or overhead power lines

@@realRickSanchez thank you very much! It seems a lot of folks believe "electricity" just happens, I'm feeling locomotives are the original hybrids

Yeah..just look at the new Puma infantry fighting vehicle...what a joke.

@@Steinstra-vj7wl You haven't been following the news today huh? Turns out it were minor issues on all except 2 vehicles, of which one had an accident.

@@jonny2954 🤣😂

😅😅😅😅

Yes, they demonstrated their efficiency exterminating Jews

And americans finally realized that they dont need such massive locomotives to do the job :) The vectron is a special machine

@@nenaddimi8319 The Siemens locomotives North America received have been nothing but problems. They have to be rescued by "massive" locomotives on a regular basis due to mechanical failures. They have been adequate short-run services in warm climates, but have been miserably unreliable in cold climates and on long cross-country service.

@@trailingrails9953 vectron doesn't have these problems in Europe, not in Finnland ( up to - 40 °C) or Italy (up to 50°C)

@@trailingrails9953 lmao ho do you americans manage to break things down?

@@trailingrails9953 Not the ACS-64s and the Chargers reliability has been increased significantly.

Praise Vectron.

and by Vectron's ears, they look beautiful!

robot is cheap around 6-8k that one

cheaper than a human, and it never gets tired

May the power of Vectron bring prosperity to your house!

IST SEHR gut. Perhaps better would have been 'tol' instead of 'gut'.

=🎉🎉

​@@jimwinchester339u uu

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It's no different than any other job

So, I'm not the only one who thought this is a very well animated video? :D

Mal sehen ob das ne traxx oder ne vectron wird, oder ganz neue familie

These big ones are mostly two permanently-coupled single-cab locos (like IORE which is 2x7200HP), there hasn't been such loco based on Vectron (yet), but it would also be a record-breaker.

The 6-section Chinese freight loco "Shen 24" is three times more powerful than the 2-section WAG-12.

​@@vineethg6259​Shen 24 is based on Vectron's predecessor - EuroSprinter/Taurus locomotive for a very specific purpose (pulling very long/heavy coal trains).

And I wonder how/if construction of these continues this winter, where due to a reliance of energy from Russia, Germany finds itself in an energy crisis. After all, what's the point of industry when people are freezing in their homes?

@@Chordonblue It's not just Germany that has kind of an energy crisis but more the whole of Europe. Germany was never the country most reliant on Russian gas - it's just a prominent one. Other countries are more or similiar reliant on it - and are still buying Russian gas. There is enough gas, enough oil and Germany is still exporting huge amounts of electrical energy to neighbouring countries like France that are really struggling due to lack of energy because a big chunk of energy production from nuclear power plants fails due to several issues. Nobody is freezing in their homes due to a lack of energy. The energy got much more expensive though and a lot of people are trying to save as much on it as possible.

I was wondering about that : I didn't see any side windows in the cab. Why can't it be used to passengers services ? You'd think that Siemens could get it right.....

@@mikedebest812 It was the same in Finland, IIRC, but the Finns managed to circumvent the problems, and it's been used for passenger service there for quite a while now. I think it had something to do with automatic, jerky braking.

@@Chordonblue which reality are you living in? Germany is a modern highly functional society. How should a minor part of its huge industrial sector create serious issues with energy supply? Are you on drugs or paid by megalomaniac mafia Putin? BTW, European Gas storage is around 90% full with two months of winter left, and four new LNG terminals built.

Thanks for clarifying, I was wondering why IR ordered so many new diesels when they plan to 100% electrify in the near future. Do they really need 1000 of them though?

@@RestrictedProceed our network is HUGE with some sections running overcapacity and our national grid failed once for almost 19 hours last decade, so a good amount of reserves. We are phasing out old Diesel locomotives. GE would most likely be the last mass order for Diesels in India. We are experimenting with conversion of old Diesels to Electric also experimental locomotives like Electric+Battery, Electric+Diesel and Hydrogen+Electric.

not if they start switching to dual locomotives like a lot of countries in Europe are doing by ordering Stadler's Euroduals the dual versions of Bombardier/Alstom's Traxx and Siemens' Vectrons and. in that case you don't need diesels sitting on a depot waiting to be deployed if something happens to the catenary and you'll just use the regular engines you usually have pulling freights

But only 60% workload is done through electrification

@@diviyampathak1995 not to forget, we are still building WDG-4G and WDG-6G locomotives because we signed a contract with GE and now we can't back off from that without paying a heavy fine

You take technology from the west and Russia that's nothing new. But you always take the full credits of the finished product. Your missile, rocket and nuclear tech came from the Russians/Soviets. Dassult is helping in aviation, Siemens and the Japanese in trains, Israelis in Missile and cybertech/Spyware.

*NO ONE gives a shiititeee about 4THWORLD incredible! superpower! india!.*

@@pranavsharma24I always wondered why Indian Railways signed this contract to build so many diesel locos .

Bcs india use broad gauge

8500 hp pra puxar 30 vagões?kkkkkkkkk o sistema europeu e uma piada

Greetings from AustrALia 😉 🇦🇺🇦🇹

My grandsons favourite program is kurgersagt

We need more such competition from companies like Alstom and Siemens in the rolling stock manufacturing of Indian Railways - locos, trainsets and coaches. Its the image makeover that IR badly needs.

I'm always happy to see India develop and even more so if my country can make some money during the whole thing. IR is truly an impressive operation

Vectron will not drive in India. Indian Railways ordered 6 axle Co'Co' Locomotives :)

@@jghrbs7737 it will be based on this design Siemens Quoted a very cheap price to defeat Alstom and win the contract/tender. They will not create a new locomotive model, that will increase the manufacturing price.

@@1kunalsarkar vectron is an european locomotive according to european standards (TSI, EN, etc.) and engineered to meet the requirements of the european railway market. It is not possible to use the same design and the same components. Of course they will use their experience, however a large part of the design and the components will be different.

I drive it to and is bassicaly great for driving train than taurus and yeah it ends there🤣 i started bringing tools with me just from great german quality🤣

siemens is a synonym for shoddy build quality here in germany. id never want to have to work with them on any level they just have a way of ruining things

Whats bad about them?

@@jghrbs7737 as in car industry evem here they started to spare on materials. For example on 3kv DC we have on all of them problem that sliders on pantografs starts to deform on angle

@@marko1996kmet Oh no, sad to hear that. Well at least they don't catch on fire like Laminátka engines. (From your surname I asume you are from Slovakia, me too)

Why?

Wtf?!?😂

@@Giftedtib david mitchell reference

But the coal of the steam engine lands in the atmosphere. How many tons are this over livetime?

@@KolossosDD Never said it didn't. 😎

Why is that interesting?

@@OmmerSyssel Never said it was. 😎

Was it from Ansaldo Breda? Because the Netherlands also got scammed by them

@@evo3s75 that's the one. Despite the problems I actually like being a passenger on those trains, but it did give italian engineering a bad reputation (if it ever had a good one to begin with).

Germany is technologically successful only because it's in the heart of Europe, they capitalized on the best brains and materials from other European countries with smooth supply chain;)

In collaboration with Indian Railways, Alstom is already making 12,000 HP WAG 12 locomotive in India.

Umm, aren’t we doing electrification of track’s already ? By next year, all the tracks in india are to be electric and Indian railways would be carbon neutral.

@@karthik7486 Yes indeed but i do find some sections still run by our WDG4 locos

@@karthik7486 Being 100 % electric is not carbon neutral in a country that produces the vast majority of its electricity from fossil fuels.

@@saviolobo998 the railways would be carbon neutral. Not the entire country. They won’t be transporting fuel, or burning it at less efficiency, no headache of storing it in facilities. So yeah, they would be carbon neutral in a conventional sense. Rn you are anyway producing a lot of energy from fossil fuels and burning diesel in the railways. Railways is also in talks for establishing their own energy supply through renewable energy sources.

why can't germany engineer some common sense at the national level and NOT make themselves dependent on russia for energy? France wins this round.

@@davidanalyst671 This is a political thing

Try to think Germany without it being in the middle of Europe... It would be having average quality engineering;)

It may not be the "most powerful". There are even more powerful multi-section locomotives than WAG-12. China's 6-section Shen-24 loco boasts 28 MW of tractive power against 9 MW of 2-section WAG-12.

@@vineethg6259 corrected 😅

​@@vineethg6259 True. But for a country just starting the to ramp their manufacturing industry you'd need shorter trains and a lot more of them for better demand responsiveness through the network, I believe they're primarily being considered for eastern and western dedicated freight corridor. The Chinese train in question is probably for hauling heavy ores, this train meant for freight. So I think it's still a good candidate to make a video of

wag 12 is actualy two loco connected with each other. Only foolishness. 2 wag 9 was best.

@@realityground.4714 WAG-12 is a single loco with two sections. The two sections cannot operate separately I think. I'm not sure how this compares to the performance two WAG-9s MUed (Multiple Unit operation). I read somewhere that MUed locos have greater chances of wheel-slip than a single multiple-section locomotive. I'm not sure though.

because old locomotives used asbestos perhaps? a lot of it

@@RFi731 That was mostly passenger cars. or the steam heaters in Diesel and Electric locomotives. But they were taken out in the 70's and 80's Steam heat was a left over from steam locomotives.

So dirty 🤢🤮

As long as it involves machinery. Human factors 101 is above people's heads.

but germans have born rate under 2 and germany's population is replacing by people from third world countries. Germany soon will be third world country.

...and they need to be powerful. After all, there's people in the cars and people ON the cars...

@@Chordonblue yup 😎

@@Chordonblue exactly.

Isn't it some kind of "twin-locomotive"? It's more than double the length and double the weight.

@@lo0mix yup... Two cascaded locomotives with bobo configuration. ❤️.. this is for freight services of goods trains .. not for passengers tarin 😎