Sweet East London Walk - Forest Gate, Upton Park, Plaistow (4K)

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Sweet East London Walk to the Trebor Factory in Forest Gate, Upton Park former home of West Ham United, and end in Plaistow - shot in 4K
This walk starts on Wanstead Flats and goes down Tylney Road where we revisit the history of Wanstead House. We then go to Manor Park Cemetery to visit the grave of Jack Cornwell who was awarded the VC at the age of 16.
From here we cross Romford Road (a Roman Road) and go to look at Trebor House in Katherine Road. This beautiful ar deco building was built in the 1930s by Trebor Sweets. It's now been converted into apartments.
We walk down Plashet Grove to Green Street and look at the development of the former ground of West Ham United now called Upton Garden E13. We pass Newham Bookshop on Barking Road to the junction with Greengate Street, Plaistow, which in the past was known as Hook End. Our walk ends in North Street, Plaistow.
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@GarethHowell 3 жыл бұрын

Another thing, John. My wife tells me that Trebor started in the shed at the bottom of her great-grandmother’s house. When Trebor wanted to expand the factory, they paid for the family to move into another house in Derby Road; which is where they stayed.

@JohnRogersWalks 3 жыл бұрын

fantastic note Gareth - thanks so much for sharing

@handlesarefeckinstupid Жыл бұрын

I used to go to college next to the Trebor factory in Chesterfield. The smell of Cola Cubes used to waft over, sometimes the smell of mint imperials. My dad used to get carrier bags full of sweets from relatives that worked there, it's a shock I have any teeth

@RajSinghKhalsa 3 жыл бұрын

I am a Plaistovian and proud, John walked right past my house @19.36 I wish I had known I would have come running out with refreshments, Stella Artois all round

@JohnRogersWalks 3 жыл бұрын

Fantastic Raj - our paths are sure to cross at some point

@peejstar 3 жыл бұрын

Just a quick note, having been born and growing up in the area ( I used to go in Trebors in the early 80's) us locals always pronounced it as Kath Rhine Road and Plaistow was Plarstow, no one called it Playstowe.

@paulm.7422 2 жыл бұрын

I lived in Park Road, then Park Avenue, East Ham and we always pronounced it Kath-Rhine Road, too. Same with "Plarstow".

@machiavellian7490 2 жыл бұрын

Lol 😂 yes it’s a test of a Proppa forest gater to pronounce Katherine as kath rine!

@sterlingmoose9335 Жыл бұрын

Always Plarstow never Playstow.

@stuartshipton5612 3 жыл бұрын

Plaistow born, hammers fan and love Trebor mints. Perfect film, thanks John.

@peckinpahlady 3 жыл бұрын

My dad was the chief maintenance engineer at Clarinocos (peppermint creams), a huge sweet factory in Carpenters Road, Stratford, from the 30s to the late 60s. When my brother left school in the early 60s he got a job at the Trebor factory. Our house was always full of sweets. It's a wonder I still have teeth!

@yvettewilliamselliott8851 3 жыл бұрын

We miss Peppermint Creams ☹️

@brianjordan4787 3 жыл бұрын

@@yvettewilliamselliott8851 My nan used to work at Clarnicos. She always warned me off eating 1d Black Jacks..."they're made from floor sweepings"! Didn't put me off though.

@yvettewilliamselliott8851 3 жыл бұрын

Brian Jordan eeeeuw 🤢. I’m glad I never liked Black Jacks!

@jharris947 2 жыл бұрын

😎😅

@highpath4776 2 жыл бұрын

@@brianjordan4787 Did they make fillings for the Woolworths Pick n Mix ones (as well as frys/mackintoshes?)

@joline2730 2 жыл бұрын

Hi everyone - this video has SO much history for me that this post would be pages long !! 🤣😀 So, going back many many years : Born in Forest Gate, lived in East Ham, went to local schools, met first boyfriend . . . etc etc. I finally left London in 2010 to go "Up Norf". But nuffink compares - I was in the street at Boleyn in 1966 to see West Ham parade the streets with the Cup ... Geoff was holding it high and Moore was standing next to him (open top bus). My sisters went to St Angela's Ursuline Convent and I went to St Anthony's. We had a lodger at one time and she worked in Trebors and used to bring a big bag of damaged sweets home for us kids every week !! Oh, so much I could tell you but haven't got all day to stay here 😀

@Mushroom67 3 жыл бұрын

When I was a kid, we used to go to the loading dock and pester the drivers for bags of sweets. The would give us brown wax paper bags full up, but not before telling us " now get out of here before you get run over".

@dougcassidy2417 3 жыл бұрын

If you'd carried on along Plaistow high street, there's the Black lion pub. Parts of which date from the 18th century.

@rootsquare 3 жыл бұрын

Where West Ham players used to go for a pre match drink... Had a boxing club upstairs....

@cheekyllamacreations 3 жыл бұрын

My brother used to be the DJ in the Black Lion in the 60’s/70’s. He met lots of WHU players and many music greats!

@dougcassidy2417 3 жыл бұрын

@@cheekyllamacreations That's right ! , it seems unbelievable now. One of my favourite pubs in the area, along with the Edward VII, in Stratford.

@jayhussain7102 3 жыл бұрын

I've lived in east London most of my life and have lived in Forest Gate for near 20 years and I have learnt a few things from this video. West Ham football club supporters used to be a bit crazy, I remember once being caught in traffic near Upton Park Station and the fans were walking on top of cars. There used to be food stalls everywhere and the pubs used to be full to the brim. The club move has really had a huge impact on the economy of those pubs sadly some have closed.

@CarlaFrancispetsaccom 3 жыл бұрын

Watching from Australia. You even mentioned Tunmarsh Lane, where I used to live. Makes me very nostalgic about the 90s’. Loved the talk of crowds flooding down Green St on match day, brings back so many memories. Thanks for the trip down memory lane. Up the Hammers!

@JohnRogersWalks 3 жыл бұрын

Glad I could take you back there Carla

@johnfrederickmansfield5444 8 күн бұрын

I remember walking down Barbers Alley from Plaistow to watch the Hammers. I live on the other side of the world now have fond memories of growing up in Plaistow and later Barking.

@paulobrien6378 3 жыл бұрын

Great film the Irish guy was my dad 🤣 I used to live in forestgate miss the old days and the hammers changed so much my Dad 1 of the last few remaining thanks again

@JTTW1455 4 ай бұрын

Your walks are like a lullaby, that take a calming journey. Thank you.

@JohnRogersWalks 4 ай бұрын

So glad you’re enjoying them

@never4ever386 3 жыл бұрын

Only discovered your channel recently. What an absolute gem for local history knowledge. Thanks!

@myhistory54 3 жыл бұрын

This clip is amazing Loads and loads of sweet nostalgia of us as kids walking across Wanstead flats when the cows were there We went to St Angela’s and St Bonaventures Schools - St Bonaventures old building was demolished with its original hall and curved stairwell on both sides The book shop brought back memories of how I started teaching adults which was upstairs directly above!! West Ham wow flats now - I went once with one of my brothers when we was 10 All of our old haunts. That Trebor factory - remembering the sense of sweets smell in the area Dad chose a great area - Forest Gate ❤️❤️❤️ Thank you for bringing back sweet memories

@JM_GLOBALGAINSGROUP 3 жыл бұрын

I walk past some of these streets almost everyday. After watching this video I'm going to appreciate them more 😩

@johnlock9365 3 жыл бұрын

The new buildings you mentioned opposite the lovely old YMCA building was the site of West Ham Bus Garage, originally a tram depot it opened in 1906 and closed in 1992. I worked there for thirteen years and was one of the last to leave.

@annbenoit8535 3 жыл бұрын

I lived in Forest Gate before myself and my parents moved to Canada in 1956. I went to Shaftesbury Road School which was next to the Trevor Factory. We could tell what was on the production line by the smell when we were in the school yard. My mother also worked there for a short while. One set of grandparents lived Leytonstone and the other set lived in East Ham. So your walk was a trip down memory lane for me.

@j.newham6284 3 жыл бұрын

Im a Plaistow resident for the last 20 years, born in Spain but living in London for 28y. and I consider myself a Plastovian, love the area and his history. Love the video!!

@jacquigrint8773 3 жыл бұрын

My mum used to work at trebor packing the sweets, and we'd walk down there to meet her with dad. We also used to go to Wanstead flats a lot for picnics. All West ham supporters and born in Plaistow 😊😍

@PVAPPE 3 жыл бұрын

“From one national icon to another...” - presented by John Rogers, who deserves similar recognition! Thank you for yet another fantastic and informative video, Mr Rogers.

@JohnRogersWalks 3 жыл бұрын

that's incredibly kind of you - I love making these videos and people taking the time to watch them is very humbling

@cloudybix Жыл бұрын

I grew up there a long time ago. It made me cry a little.

@brendagoodley550 3 жыл бұрын

I worked at Plaistow library for almost seven years....leaving 1965. Happy Days!

@alltheteam69 3 жыл бұрын

Just found you John. Am Custom House girl, born in Plaistow Howard’s rd, as we’re my kids. Loved the docks walk, where I worked and Sweet East London walk...... excited to catch up on all the others. Can’t thank you enough for these (bit emotional though). Cheers.

@alanculbert5146 Жыл бұрын

Hi John, what a great video. My mum and dad both were born in Forest Gate. Dad was born in Raymond Road, the youngest of 8 children. When he was around 3 years old, in 1940, my grandparents (his parents) moved the whole family to Neville Road. Some weeks later the house in Raymond Road was totally destroyed by a bomb. The whole area was subjected to an awful lot of bombing during WW2. So if they hadn't moved, I wouldn't be able to tell this tale now! So mum and dad both survived the war, fell in love at Harold Road school, and finally married in St Edmunds Church in Katherine Road in 1957. Dad would have loved to have played for West Ham, he did actually play for a whole for West Ham boys, while at school. My nan remained in Neville Road for pretty much the rest of her life. So as a young boy in the 1970s, I was taken to visit her, with some lovely family gatherings in that house. It's a fascinating area, so much history.

@Nish234 8 ай бұрын

Wow!

@BaronMichaelDeBlone1066 2 жыл бұрын

Trebor Sweets, now there's a find. I was a bit surprised at how many childhood memories this triggered. Great stuff!

@minascarlett2333 2 жыл бұрын

I lived on the Romford Road in the late 60s until the age of fourteen, in a flat above a cafe, which my parents ran. A very young and then unknown Arnie Schwartsnega used to pop in to the cafe when he lived in the area and trained at a local gym - he mentions it in his book!

@huntleywhufc 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this walk John, Forest Gate born and bred now in deepest Essex. Every one of those streets holds a memory for me but I was heartbroken when I saw what they had done to the most important place in many EastEnders world.to think we now have to endure the soulless bowl instead of our beloved Boleyn. Keep up the good work mate, come on you Irons.

@vivleech7057 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this walk John. As a lifelong Hammers fan it brought back so many memories of visiting the ground from when I was 14. Got quite tearful. Great walk great times then.

@malcolmcrisp6287 3 жыл бұрын

John. A great video. I was born in Clinton Rd, Forest Gate, and my father had a printing business under the railway arches (A J Crisp & Son, Ltd) from 1943 to 1962. His biggest customer was TREBOR sweets. Printed the brown paper wrappers that went round the cartons of sweets and also some of the labels that went on the large jars of sweets. I used to help deliver to the TREBOR factory around 1955-60.

@robertbridger111 2 жыл бұрын

Born in Howards rd Plaistow in 1954 , my sister worked in Trebors in the 60s , and Yardley Stratford , I went to portway infants and Junior School and then Harold rd Secondary school Upton Park , great Memories , Bob x

@devo7079 3 жыл бұрын

That lovely building across the road from the park in plaistow was once an art college but now flats. You missed the lovely little cottage near plaistow station, looks beautiful and well out of place with all the modern maisonettes near it.

@teresaharrison5773 3 жыл бұрын

I've a special reason for watching this, my parents both Irish met and married in Forest Gate in the fifties.

@risin4949 3 жыл бұрын

I started working at Trebors and socializing in Forest Gate in the 70's. It had quite a big Irish population then. I got to know a lot of them in the 'Princess Alice' and the 'Live and Let Live'. Two pubs now long gone.

@noelgilmartin1821 3 жыл бұрын

@@risin4949 The original Princess Alice got bombed in the war, rebuilt in the 60s I think...

@RiteshPatel90 3 жыл бұрын

Great walk .. I grew up on Kitchener Road in forest gate and my mum worked at the Trebor factory ! Went to school in canning town ... thanks for the memories .. I’m now living in NJ USA !

@JohnRogersWalks 3 жыл бұрын

Many thanks for sharing that Ritesh and glad I could help bring back those memories. All the best to you in NJ

@sobo1956 Жыл бұрын

Great video John all the years i worked in East London never knew the Trebor Story and loved the walk to Upton Park my Club

@Mushroom67 3 жыл бұрын

The paddy power bookies was the Duke of Fife pub.

@JohnRogersWalks 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Mushroom

@giuliettacinque9101 3 жыл бұрын

@@JohnRogersWalks Another fascinating walk. Beautiful pub so we've looked it up but unable, so far, to determine why it was so named. Not a common name for a pub. Whatpub states 'no handpumped beers'. Presumably that was when it was open as a pub. What a shame. Have you headed south from Forest Gate down Upton Lane past the Old Spotted Dog pub and football ground?

@MrBaldypete1 3 жыл бұрын

Me dad told me a story about the Fife during the 70's when he took me mum there for a pint one evening and there was a drag act on (it was a gay pub back then.) He said it was a dragged-up cow girl doing the dancing and all that and right at the end, the bottom clothing came off to reveal a rather large... horse whip, let's say. Apparently me mum was in hysterics and me dad was paying special attention to his pint glass! :D

@MrBaldypete1 3 жыл бұрын

@@giuliettacinque9101 I remember going to the Spotted Dog when I was a kid. It was apparently Henry VIII's hunting lodge from back when the forest was closer this way. They had a big statue of Henry VIII in there next to the stairs up to the restaurant and a nice playground out the back. Used to drink Appletiser and eat Pepperamis a lot in there. And the football ground next door is Clapton FC, if I remember correctly. The place is still derelict unfortunately. Wandered past it a couple months ago and the windows are boarded up and there's big concrete blocks in the entrance to the car park.

@helenfawcett9685 2 жыл бұрын

Love this! My old stamping grounds, from 1980- 2010. Trying to get to a gig out in Essex on a home game day after Saturday music school ... My husband always said Katheryne Road- as he was a Leyton local.

@marknicol4606 Жыл бұрын

You have given me all I lost in the beautiful Leytonstone.!! I’ve so many brilliant stories!! Of a bomb site kids in Cecil Road . Leytonstone. ❤️

@marknicol4606 Жыл бұрын

When I was a boy!! Jeff Lynn. Says all about us kids then. Please enjoy. Leytonstone is everything to me. Though I live in the new forest. My hear is There. 100/%🕊🇬🇧💪🏽

@bakerloobadboy 3 жыл бұрын

Thank heavens for this week's video as I start another miserable week in deepest grottiest Willesden. The week will now be worth while because of another JR video. Hook End Tesco used to be The Green Gate pub until it closed (an idea for a walk could be to visit pubs that became supermarkets / McDonald's etc) the area is generally known as " Green Gate". The new housing by Plaistow park wasn't built on old bombed out houses but on the site of the old West Ham bus garage. Across the road from North Street (devoid of Dorric Columns) was the location of the Jayes Fluid Factory As always John, another utterly brilliant video filmed very close to my front door

@JohnRogersWalks 3 жыл бұрын

thanks for those notes John

@simondunlop8900 3 жыл бұрын

Good old east London best place in the world

@petestearn7985 3 жыл бұрын

The pub along from the Trebor factory was called The Duke Of Fife. I lived diagonally opposite it as a child in the 1950's. My mum worked at Trebors too. She used to smuggle some sweets home for us sometimes!

@K4RIR 3 жыл бұрын

Hi John, only came across your channel very recently and absolutely love watching your videos. Was a treat to see this as i live a couple of roads away from the old Trebor factory (Chester Road). Im often in Wanstead Park too taking my dog for a walk. Hopefully one day we cross paths. Always love a chat about history...especially in areas where I've grown up! Keep the great videos coming 😊

@Normskiblue 2 жыл бұрын

Raised in East Ham now living in Wanstead. As a kid in the 70’s I used to walk for miles to the Joke Shop on Katherine Rd to buy stink bombs and peppered pastilles. My neighbour was related to the family that owned Trebor and my Nan worked as a cleaner in the Hammers social club. I’m also a hammers fan an remember by first game on a cold Boxing Day in the late 60’s watching West Ham play Man Utd featuring Bobby Moore, Geof Hurst, Martin Peters, Bobby Charlton and George Best. I took my young daughters to the Boleyn ground to experience the atmosphere on the West Ham’s final season there.

@ravsingh1576 3 жыл бұрын

Hi John, such a fascinating tour and history lesson. I grew up in Forest Gate. You shared so much great knowledge and I never really had a clue about it. Really enjoyed reading everyone's comments below too and knowing how many locals there are. Thank you for sharing.

@brettbanks3602 3 жыл бұрын

I remember having to avoid the masses of wasps swarming around the sugary waste being pumped into the bins outside the Trevor factory, when visiting relatives. The YMCA building in Plaistow, was either a sixth form college or one of the campuses of the Uni.

@yvettewilliamselliott8851 3 жыл бұрын

Brett Banks I remember when it was part of the University, I used to use the library there. It’s an amazing building.

@helendashwood2081 3 жыл бұрын

Gosh what a blast from the past for me. Mum used to go to the greencrocers on the opposite corner to the Boleyn pub, when we went to the Queens Market, it was an uncovered market. I was also born in Plaistow Maternity Hospital! We lived in Boundary Rd E13, my Dad bought the new house - I still have the book with the Council stamps that my mum used to go and pay every month. The first receipt is dated 15th January 1954 (10 months before my birth) and the grand sum of £4.40 (that's four pounds and forty shillings!) was paid in respect of Surveyors Fees. Fond memories of my early life in West Ham but you can't stop the march of progress.

@lindacarmody3953 Жыл бұрын

40 pence

@lindacarmody3953 Жыл бұрын

. I also remember Queens Rd. uncovered market. Christmas shopping, the lights as dusk came on, the smells…

@RajSinghKhalsa 3 жыл бұрын

I vaguely remember from my early years the YMCA gothic building was some sort of art college which had a ghastly metal sculpture infront of it before it was turned to apartments a few years back

@emilyjost1852 3 жыл бұрын

It was an art school - part of what is now UEL. When I went there in 1991 it was still East London poly

@MrBaldypete1 3 жыл бұрын

Remember when there was a bus garage over the road?

@RajSinghKhalsa 3 жыл бұрын

@@MrBaldypete1 bus garage is gone and a housing estate replaced it called "Route master close" the war memorial to all public transport workers who lost their lives l is still there and poppy wreaths placed there every remembrance day

@dickwhite977 3 жыл бұрын

The Trebor factory in the north was at Chesterfield in the midlands where I came from. I lived in Clova Road when I was a student at the London Hospital. Nice to see the area again. Thanks!

@LivingwiththeMazumdars 2 жыл бұрын

Wishes from very far away (India). Loved your video and thanks for showing around. I studied in London and stayed in Leytonstone about 20 years ago. Never went back again (caught up with life). But my love for London is etched deep within! Subscribed.

@stevemeadows8906 3 жыл бұрын

One of the Trebor founders lived in my street -Thomas Henry King. There were four who got together. Thomas King,Willaiam Woodcock, Robert Robertson, and Sydney Herbert Marks. William Woodcock was a sugar boiler by trade! Trebor is Robert Robertsons first name backwards. Really enjoying your journeys.

@LordPitsea 3 жыл бұрын

My Nan & Grandad ( 1912 and 1914 ) were Straford born and bred and called it "Plarstow". My other Grandad ( 1910 ) who was Latimer Road, W10 born and bred, then moved to the fledgling Becontree Estate in 1925, called it "Playstow". Really enjoy the videos, thank you.

@wayneleader2364 3 жыл бұрын

reminds me of being 16 years old back in 1981-1982 . i used go to a great little east end cafe nearly opposite the Trebor factory . Thank you

@jazzman9042 3 жыл бұрын

Hi John, the big pub is or was The Duke of Fife, the doors of which I fell out of on many a happy evening. The Trebor factory was still producing sweets into the mid 1970's. I grew up just around the corner and did my coppersmith apprenticeship in East London Copper Works just along from Trebors in Shaftesbury road, and consequently did a lot of work for the factory. When my aunt worked in the sweet factory in the 1950's we used get a free newspaper twist of mixed sweets each Friday evening yum yum yum...good old Trebor. Keep up the good work my friend!

@JohnRogersWalks 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing those vital memories of the area Michael

@doveronefoxtrot4417 3 жыл бұрын

My grandfather ran the pub during the wartime.

@risin4949 3 жыл бұрын

Hi John. Trebors recovered from whatever damage the bomb did. It was certainly in full production in the 1970's. I worked there as a Sugar Boiler.

@beverlyjones8775 3 жыл бұрын

I lived in with mum and dad and my sister on the corner of Wakefield Street and Katherine Road, opposite the Wakefield pub. Next door to the pub was a shop selling lemon ice and ice cream made on the premises. We lived above the launderette late 60’s through to late 70’s.

@BillyHayes79Music 3 жыл бұрын

Love this. I was born in Forest Gate and remember that Trebor building as a kid. I remember feeling proud that a famous company had a factory in my home town. I actually think growing up round there cemented my love for architecture and its history. Thank you for reminding me

@GarethHowell 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for this one, John. I was a season ticket holder at West Ham for many years and remember the hubbub on Green Street well. All the pop-up stalls, the smells, sounds and sights. Similarly, walking along Romford Road from the Barking end after we moved. I almost stopped the video at the point that you reached the old ground. The day West Ham left The Boleyn Ground marked the end of my active support for the club. I will never go and watch them in Stratford and I’ll never go back to that area again. I couldn’t stand the pain of seeing what has become of the ground. So to see the redevelopment was very hard for me, but I did continue watching, and I thank you again for the video.

@highpath4776 2 жыл бұрын

One had to think about non-league football and supporting Clapton Orient instead at Forest Gate.

@joline2730 2 жыл бұрын

Yep, I was horrified to see our wonderful "Upton Park" desicrated into low-rise flats - was almost begging that the Boleyn was still there and shame we could not see it in full glory - shame about all that scaffolding covering it up.

@jillcain1433 3 жыл бұрын

Hi John, really enjoyed your Forest Gate to Plaistow walk. I’m now nearly 80 and lived outside London but I worked in TREBOR late 50s early 60s and I the old Upton Park market that ran along the road that ran parallel with the railway . You never mentioned The Boleyn Castle along Green Street, it was a beautiful castle I played in the grounds in the 40s was knocked down to build St ? School before becoming part of the football grounds. Jill Cain

@sterlingmoose9335 Жыл бұрын

The school was St John's and was next to the football ground. I used to attend Judo Classes there in the early 80's

@jimmylawson6014 3 жыл бұрын

Just found this video John, from a Geordie married to a girl from Forest Gate, Sebert Road, absolutely awesome local knowledge where we will try and follow in your footsteps next time we are in the area, also she mentioned a sweet factory called Hussocks or Hassocks in the sixties in Forest Gate area . Now subscribed and cannot wait to check more videos out, John, absolutely fascinating, Thank You.

@highpath4776 2 жыл бұрын

Was there not a small ice cream manufacturers in Sebert Road ?

@julieblackstock8650 3 жыл бұрын

I love this one, My mum is 86 and when I have her here on Xmas Day I am going to show her this one as she would know the area well but we left in 1969. We lived in Stratford, I was born in Forest Gate Hospital. My uncle and aunt lived in Plaistow

@julieblackstock8650 3 жыл бұрын

@John Buffalo I am 98 No Essex Coast but moving to Suffolk next year for the rural life

@julieblackstock8650 3 жыл бұрын

@John Buffalo I am 98 where I am now about 325-350,000.. in Suffolk about 100,000 less

@geegod9122 3 жыл бұрын

@John Buffalo I am 98 nosey eh lol

@NoName-jq7tj Жыл бұрын

Such vintage history. I grew up on Terrace Road & went to Lister Community School. Queens Market & all this brings back memories. I think most of the original communities moved out into Essex. I live in Billerichay & there is usual an east London background to people. The point of West Ham Utd I can recall shooting series of images of fans on Barking Road in 2008. When I look at those images today you see a lost world now.

@impamiizgraa 6 ай бұрын

Just as wonderful as this video are the many comments from people who have deep connections with the places you describe so well in this tour. I'm moving to Plaistow for the first time, just bought a home there, and I was a little worried I might not like the area (it's the best I could afford!); this has given me a new appreciation of it, might not be the prettiest or cleanest area, but it does have character and history. That's good enough for me! I hope people take care and take pride in where they are - videos like this could help!

@jamesnightingale9782 3 жыл бұрын

Another great walk John. If your ever get back over Dagnams at Harold Hill you will find if you look two Granite columns from Wanstead house. They where purchased and never used and lay where they where put many years ago. I’m sure on the Dagnams website it mentions these and how they came to lay in part of the park. Great bit of history regarding Trebor. Thanks again for all the great walks and videos. Jim

@TimLondonGuitarist 3 жыл бұрын

The music in these productions is very effective, draws you onwards in the walk

@LoisDavidsonArt 3 жыл бұрын

Ooooh! Fab walk, so interesting, thank so much John! I think I may well don my mask and pop out tomorrow for a packet of Trebor Mints. Had a tear in my eye on hearing the story of Jack Cornwall...

@JohnRogersWalks 3 жыл бұрын

thanks Lois - yes the Jack Cornwell story is powerful, worth reading a longer account online. I believe he was remembered in an event at his old school in Leyton until quite recently

@stevenhall1186 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent. Well done and Thanks.

@brianjrichman 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the Trebor connection. Nice to see those origins after the last one where my mum used to work at (the old factory on Woodford Road). As for Plaistow, I married a "Plaistow Patricia" kind of woman and my daughter was born in the old Plaistow Maternity Hospital.

@JohnRogersWalks 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks very mucj for bringing the Trebor story to my attention Brian and sowing the seed of this walk.

@paulm.7422 3 жыл бұрын

If you are referring to the old maternity hospital in Howards Road (known to locals as just "Howards Road"), I was also born there in 1954. However, I was merely born in Plaistow. I only ever lived in E6 ... Upton Park, then East Ham ... both east of the great East Ham/West Ham divide ... Green Street! (Only true locals would really understand the significance of that).

@brianjrichman 3 жыл бұрын

@@JohnRogersWalks Glad you made it into a walk too and that you were excited about it too.

@andylovejoy4121 3 жыл бұрын

@@paulm.7422 and me and my sister was born there and her name is Patricia.

@emmajorro5004 3 жыл бұрын

@@andylovejoy4121 I was born there too and now live in Plaistow, west sussex. My mum used to call me plaistow Patricia!!

@PodcastCentral333 3 жыл бұрын

excellent coverage thanks John

@user-mr6xp6nk7q 5 ай бұрын

Yes, Mate. Mum and Dad both born and bred there. I worked in Lister School for 5 years. And loads of other jobs there. Proud Londoners.

@johncullinan8041 3 жыл бұрын

Very interesting walk. Right next to West Ham ground was St. John’s Catholic Secondary School which also disappeared in the 80’s but I used to walk from Upton Park tube to St.John’s each day. On match evenings we used to close the school for the afternoon so that the students could get home safely as the crush and heave of people coming to the match and churning off the trains was so great particularly if the Hammers were playing a London derby. The people of Newham were great, always ready with a smile and a witty comment.

@Anon1991 3 жыл бұрын

love your videos John, i love all the history i learn about my own area, look forward to reading your book. if only schools taught children the history of their local area, maybe a local school should hire you to take their kids for a local walk and be taught the rich history around them one day. Keep it up!

@davidperry7591 3 жыл бұрын

There used to be a wine bar along Barking road close to greengate street called Hook end village during the eighties and nineties, a nod to the past, sadly no longer there. We used to drink there before going to Boleyn ground.

@leytonorient1973 3 жыл бұрын

Great video john thanks for mentioning my Hitchcock tours .but thanks for paying homage to jack cornwell.that was a touch of class .Plaistow brings back a lot of memories for me .a lot of family used to live there and my Nan is buried in the east london cemetery in Plaistow.superb john .

@janelithgow7727 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks fpr a really interesting film. i lived on Green Street in the 1980s. I was told that Katherine Road was pronounced to rhyme with brine - no idea why... Also, good news on the football front - Clapton CFC are bringing football back to the Old Spotted Dog ground in Upton Lane,

@mushy3424 3 жыл бұрын

You are correct Jane, the locals always pronounced it as Brine. No idea why.

@markahomer 3 жыл бұрын

Goodness Trebor!! I forgot about that. Used to pass it as a teenager (Woodford Avenue building). Another enjoyable walk. Loved it.

@JohnRogersWalks 3 жыл бұрын

two amazing buildings Eric - I must do a walk between them one day

@dovefamily3247 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for another great film John. Those of us of a certain age who attended Plaistow Grammar School call themselves 'Old Plaistovians'.

@terryflynn1956 3 жыл бұрын

Yet another brilliant walk John including a narrative full of so many interesting facts. The gem was the Trebor building and stories . As an east end boy myself born in Leyton I went to George Mitchell school in Farmer road and we celebrated both George Mitchell and Jack Cornwall on George Mitchell day both war heroes. More of the same please John so good . 👏😊👍

@michaeloneill9831 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks John. I love this walk. It brings back great memories. School cross country running and football on Wanstead flats, my time at St. Bonaventure's school in Forest Gate, my enjoyable school summer holiday job in Trebor's factory which included helping with mixing ingredients for the sweets and for the many years watching West Ham United at the Boleyn ground seeing the great Bobby Moore Geoff Hurst Martin Peters etc

@ArthurStone 3 жыл бұрын

I was walking through Plaistow in a rainstorm and just as I passed a local man, a huge blue bolt of lightning hit the building next to us. Our lives were saved by a maisonette. We both exchanged a relieved smile and continued. Great pubs around Plaistow when I lived there: Lock, Stock and Barrel; Spotted Dog; and many I cannot recall. Thanks John!

@JohnRogersWalks 3 жыл бұрын

Great story Arthur, thanks

@HonestSonics 3 жыл бұрын

What a rare event. Perhaps it signalled that West Ham had just won a game up the road...

@ArthurStone 3 жыл бұрын

@@HonestSonics Better statistical probability of a direct hit ; D

@frazanapatel611 3 жыл бұрын

Fantastic story- so interesting

@paulinewerth5423 3 жыл бұрын

Oh my goodness Nathan’s pie and mash !

@raymondpenalver7095 3 жыл бұрын

About time you had your own program on the telly John , always love the information you put out in all your videos, have a great week!

@Justme-tn2un 3 жыл бұрын

Wow this video brought back so many memories. Old Green Street, we had the cinema opposite the Barclays that’s gone, the Wimpy on the corner where my aunt would take me for a treat. Marks and Spencer’s now gone my first ever Saturday job. Why they ever covered lovely, lively Queens market and made it dark and dismal I will never understand. All the lovely small cottage hospitals I trained in all gone, East Ham memorial children’s hospital, St Mary’s hospital for women in Plaistow gone. Queen Mary’s hospital in Stratford gone too, Newham maternity hospital and Plaistow hospital geriatric hospital all gone 😢. Had some fun times and made many friends as a nurse in those hospitals. I suppose it’s what you called progress. And when I drove round Lister Comp last year I couldn’t believe how massive the school had grown. Thank you for a virtual walk down memory lane 👍🏼

@starbuck5228 3 жыл бұрын

Newham born and raised now living in Ilford Essex I remember my mother told and my sisters that she used to work in Trebor sweet factory 🏭 way back in the late 1960s , she also worked in Bryant and May matchstick factory in Mile end East London Tower Hamlets but sadly it's no longer there it's now sainsbury super market.

@starsonmars9429 2 жыл бұрын

We lived in Plaistow for a couple of years in the 80s. We lived in the bottom of a house in St Mary's Road.... Full of damp. It had some great fish & chip shops.

@knightystar4001 3 жыл бұрын

Confection wise, my family has London links to the Cadburys factory in Cricklewood (Nan) was manager, and other half's Nan worked at Paynes Poppets in Croydon..Cadbury's Nan was born in Plaistow too..just behind the Boleyn. Keep urban exploring & filming John, your films are an absolute joy to watch & a tonic to lockdown. Newham Bookshop is excellent!!!

@TheCinderellaman10 3 жыл бұрын

Another gem of a video

@Mouxbar 3 жыл бұрын

Never knew about the original Trebor factory John and she is a beauty. A few other gems here as well. Fabulous.

@Signals927 3 жыл бұрын

Enjoyed this one as usual. I was born in Plaistow, lived as a baby in Plaistow Park Road. The Trebor HQ I remember well on Woodford Ave, in my football days I used to train and play on the Plessey sports ground which was just across the road from the Trebor HQ.

@andrewcroft6855 3 жыл бұрын

great stuff as ever John, as a groundhopper it's heartbreaking to see Upton Park gone, that was my first football league ground back in 1975 as my elder brother took me, we lived in Canterbury at the time and what i always remember is when my brother brought the train tickets there was a special offer on a childs' fare as i was 13, the return journey from Canterbury to Victoria was all of 10p. Keep up the good work- due to finding your channel a few months agon and meeting you in Ramsgate i am now doing a lot more walks myself in this glorious part of East Kent, hop on a bus out into the villages and it's gorgeous and just so quiet and tranquil trawling old WW2 pillboxes and associated things. Top man John

@paulm.7422 3 жыл бұрын

Greetings from Dallas, John and thanks for another great video walk of my old stomping grounds!

@JohnRogersWalks 3 жыл бұрын

My pleasure Paul - all the way over there in Dallas - I really must visit Texas some day

@stoutsarah9228 3 жыл бұрын

Really enjoyed this video John. I grew up on Halley Road in Forest Gate and then moved to Central Park Road, East Ham so know this area well. Did you know that Katherine Road is pronounced 'Kath-rhine' by locals? This brought much confusion to my parents who moved to the area from the North East in the early 1970's.

@leeniel.8516 3 жыл бұрын

I was just about to say that about the pronunciation ...I was born opposite the football ground 63 years ago so I've been saying it that way for all those years :)

@joline2730 2 жыл бұрын

Yep, Kath Rhine (long i)

@rootsquare 3 жыл бұрын

Just discovered your channel and enjoying it very much. Regards pronunciation of certain locations: Plaistow is 'Plar-Stow'... when the District Line trains changed to announce the name of the station came out they pronounced it 'Play-Stow"... much to the amusement of locals... you'd often hear local passengers correcting the announcement... especially after the pubs kicked out :-) Everyone I know though has always pronounced Katherine Rd as 'Kath-Ryne' (the I is hard as in 'eye').

@SMILEVIDEOTRAINS 3 жыл бұрын

Since watching your uploads I found Abbie Barnes who walks Hills, mountains and coastal paths. Never short of something to occupy my mind.

@briancox144 3 жыл бұрын

Great video brings back my boyhood days watching West Ham my team times I have walked down green street from 1964 until they left Upton Park very sad well done John Rogers great memories

@artdecoy 3 жыл бұрын

Great film. My Dad was from Plaistow and Mum from Manor Park. Great to see so many familiar places. Thanks John

@eatwithjin7725 3 жыл бұрын

I’m currently living in one of those new flats in Upton garden. Good to know the history of the area

@grooveexplorer 3 жыл бұрын

What a beautiful building the Trebor factory is,hope it gets preserved. Excellent as always,thankyou.

@stevemobbs2707 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you, I loved this walk. My Dad tried to get me to support West Ham, but I managed to avoid that fate! He was born in Eastbourne but moved to Plaistow in the 1950s and used to watch West Ham in those days. He worked at the Gas works in Plaistow, so if you go back at any time I’d live to see where they were. I live in Northumberland so I don’t get to London very much now, so really I appreciate these trips.

@highpath4776 2 жыл бұрын

Cannot recall the Plaistow gas works - were they near the hospital, the main (pun ?!) gas works were at Beckton. (I did have a book on the Gas works of the North Thames but I sold it).

@stevemumbling7720 3 жыл бұрын

All very familiar. I used to walk down Katherine Road and turn right at the Trebor factory, and then walk back again every day to go to school. In the 60s it was operating, making sweets. I used to think it smelt sickly and would hold my breath when I walked past it. And I've had a pint or two in the Forest Gate Hotel. To be honest I think it all looks like a bit of a crap-heap. I'm glad I emigrated to Australia in the mid 90s. I've never been back.

@alanculbert5146 Ай бұрын

Does anyone remember a lovely toy shop in Green Street called "Chambers"? My nan lived in Neville Road, and in the late 70s, I was around 7 years old. It was a lovely treat for me to go in the shop with my parents, whilst visiting my nan. I seem to remember, it was not far from Upton Park station