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Swiss Stage and Predictions | The Divephoria State Worlds 2023 | Episode 1

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@lucasducros5166
@lucasducros5166 10 ай бұрын
Haha this episode was so fun to watch. So much banter and jokes, thank you guys!
@Conflixx-92
@Conflixx-92 10 ай бұрын
Released an hour ago, comment 44 minutes ago, podcast is an hour and 40 minutes. Something doesn't add up here guys.
@lucasducros5166
@lucasducros5166 10 ай бұрын
Like Azael would say, what about Caps?!?@@Conflixx-92
@arturoflash
@arturoflash 10 ай бұрын
​@@Conflixx-92 The podcast went of the rails the moment the first word was spoken tbf
@bangdkps
@bangdkps 10 ай бұрын
WHAT HISTORY IS BRUV READING
@Habeev07
@Habeev07 10 ай бұрын
Ivern is gonna be a huge pick. The aoe heal from redemption and the shields on the frontliners in mid-late gm teamfights can be a difference maker. I wanna see the west utilize enchanters while also drafting for tanky engage for front to back teamfights with mid and adc on hypers. Heck, some Karthus/Soraka wombo combo, Senna/Seraphine (used with Ivern jg, Olaf top, and Trynd mid ghosting on enemy backline getting extension on Seraphine ult/Senna ult layered over/ Ivern redemption over the top of Olaf/Trynd), Kalista/Renata (throws Renata in with ult to get best placement possible for Renata ult on key targets.) Sample drafts with Xayah/Kai'sa banned (think how these ults synergize and layer): Olaf, Ivern, Tryndamere, Seraphine, Senna Rumble, Wukong, Orianna, Kog'maw, Braum Poppy, Karthus, Jayce, Draven, Soraka Malphite, Jarvan, Orianna, Kalista, Renata Ornn, Mao'kai, Yasuo, Nilah, Braum Kennen, Wukong, Veigar, Kalista, Taric
@markyochoa
@markyochoa 10 ай бұрын
Sleep deprived Azael is hilarious
@risingregime568
@risingregime568 10 ай бұрын
best part of the episode
@tinecchi3648
@tinecchi3648 10 ай бұрын
Just started so can’t wait xD
@tinecchi3648
@tinecchi3648 10 ай бұрын
My god azael is unleashed xD he drops memes every 30 seconds haha. 10/10 👍
@Habeev07
@Habeev07 10 ай бұрын
Ivern is gonna be a huge pick. The aoe heal from redemption and the shields on the frontliners in mid-late gm teamfights can be a difference maker. I wanna see the west utilize enchanters while also drafting for tanky engage for front to back teamfights with mid and adc on hypers. Heck, some Karthus/Soraka wombo combo, Senna/Seraphine (used with Ivern jg, Olaf top, and Trynd mid ghosting on enemy backline getting extension on Seraphine ult/Senna ult layered over/ Ivern redemption over the top of Olaf/Trynd), Kalista/Renata (throws Renata in with ult to get best placement possible for Renata ult on key targets.) Sample drafts with Xayah/Kai'sa banned (think how these ults synergize and layer): Olaf, Ivern, Tryndamere, Seraphine, Senna Rumble, Wukong, Orianna, Kog'maw, Braum Poppy, Karthus, Jayce, Draven, Soraka Malphite, Jarvan, Orianna, Kalista, Renata Ornn, Mao'kai, Yasuo, Nilah, Braum Kennen, Wukong, Veigar, Kalista, Taric
@ottiliaottilia
@ottiliaottilia 10 ай бұрын
The energy in this truly encapsules that giggly state of tiredness. I love it.
@vizaco7256
@vizaco7256 10 ай бұрын
this was by far the best lol podcast episode i’ve ever heard. such good energy
@kevlan229
@kevlan229 10 ай бұрын
Sleepy Vedius+Azael were so funny, and Atlus + Chronicler were a great sport/played off their energy really well. Excited to see more for the rest of worlds!
@Nangman-Tsu
@Nangman-Tsu 10 ай бұрын
the dive + EUphoria + POG state= the diveuphoria state
@LombaxPieboy16
@LombaxPieboy16 10 ай бұрын
Azael should not be allowed to operate on this little sleep. Dude is criminally hilarious
@Lockerfitgemacht
@Lockerfitgemacht 10 ай бұрын
Cheers to the eu fellas that fixing their sleep schedule for worlds too today 💪
@guybrodsky9574
@guybrodsky9574 10 ай бұрын
Man what you mean it starts as soon as I clock in.
@yasuoarima6022
@yasuoarima6022 10 ай бұрын
I actuallt took a 2 weeks vacation for this
@mastrosworld1925
@mastrosworld1925 10 ай бұрын
@@yasuoarima6022 thats sad
@azrazelhananto
@azrazelhananto 10 ай бұрын
it starts 7Am going on to 2PM so its not even bad for EU
@randoeboy
@randoeboy 10 ай бұрын
​​@@guybrodsky9574truuue same 😂 and im gonna watch it all at work
@Classic112
@Classic112 10 ай бұрын
This was amazing. A more relaxed format than what I normally watch. Just riffing off each other. Really fun to watch.
@gabrielmonteiro9740
@gabrielmonteiro9740 10 ай бұрын
haven't laughed this much with a podcast in a while! Watched 5 minutes only and Azael is unleashed. Keep it up guys!
@rafaelacuna1543
@rafaelacuna1543 10 ай бұрын
Fr this was amazing divephoria state is the best podcast ever for like 7 weeks then goes away forever
@joost00555
@joost00555 10 ай бұрын
That was a very fun get together. I think it is nice for them to talk with eachother about their respective regions, where each of them has something to tell to the others that they don't know, instead of all of them knowing everything about 1 specific region already.
@ljneztos472
@ljneztos472 10 ай бұрын
I hope that we will have The Dive after the Swiss stage with a breakdown of each game 🥰🥰
@BluDragon3
@BluDragon3 10 ай бұрын
This was super entertaining!! Hoping for more from this combo! 🎉
@GorlodeTheDwarf
@GorlodeTheDwarf 10 ай бұрын
as a kt fan atlus warms my heart, i hope you get to cast a KT match this worlds
@LetsPlayBojangles
@LetsPlayBojangles 10 ай бұрын
Love the english talent from the 3 leagues getting together. You guys should hit up Kitty from the LPL to join to get perspective from their end.
@vevymotivation
@vevymotivation 10 ай бұрын
They should hit up Kitty? idk why but that sound so wrong
@mahatmaniggandhi2898
@mahatmaniggandhi2898 10 ай бұрын
@@vevymotivation 😂😂
@glidersuzuki5572
@glidersuzuki5572 10 ай бұрын
​@@vevymotivationwhat's so wrong? Maybe to people who don't socialise or go outside
@Kmartinlucas
@Kmartinlucas 10 ай бұрын
@glidersuzuki5572 Same day comments for The Dive, EUphoria, POG state, or any combination of the above do not come from people who touch grass on the reg (that means you too). Don't shame them cause they thought your comment sounded funny. Be happy you got engagement from a human being cause it sounds like you don't *socialize* often.
@grrumakemeangry
@grrumakemeangry 10 ай бұрын
@@Kmartinlucasas a non human being I shall stay neutral in this
@Kmartinlucas
@Kmartinlucas 10 ай бұрын
20 minutes in and I've already had water shoot out of my nose and 2 spit takes. I need this EVERY worlds. Great content guys, hope Azael and Vedius got some sleep after.
@lester8403
@lester8403 10 ай бұрын
Azael and Atlas are really my favorite casters!! And totally underrated
@justin9744
@justin9744 10 ай бұрын
Neither is underrated. They both are held in high regards.
@squidopus5478
@squidopus5478 10 ай бұрын
I feel like everyone is underestimating the NRG buff against teams that they should lose to, they always win games against better teams, which is, in theory, every team at the tournament, so they’re going undefeated
@rafaelacuna1543
@rafaelacuna1543 10 ай бұрын
NAMEN
@darkienl5886
@darkienl5886 10 ай бұрын
However, if they go 3-0 in Swiss, they are suddenly a top team and expected to win, so they will get swept by like BLG in quarters
@perteadsf4914
@perteadsf4914 10 ай бұрын
​@@darkienl5886However, when they are 2-0 down, everyone will say it was just a flash and they are not the favorites again, resulting in them reverse sweeping their way through to the title.
@Pyrrha_Nikos
@Pyrrha_Nikos 10 ай бұрын
I agree on 90% of what Azael said at 33:00 about maybe EU and NA shouldn't have a pool 1 seed. The only issues I see with this is 1) under what objective argument do you measure when EU or NA deserve a pool 1 back or not? And 2) (and this is the biggest issue I see) is that you can maybe argue that a team like G2 is maybe 2 or 3 steps below a pool 1 team. But the 2nd EU seed is like 4 steps below G2. What if that G2 gets enough results across 2 or 3 years to firmly deserve a pool 1 seeding, and then next year they don't make it as EU's 1st seed and the 1st seed just lucked out? Or if they make it as pool 1 seed, but the 2nd seed (that should get pool 2 seeding) is extremely inferior to other pool 2 teams? It's very tricky because the gap between G2 and other western teams is just as big as between pool 1 eastern teams and G2.
@lazydk2654
@lazydk2654 10 ай бұрын
If we are sticking to current format, pool 1 would be based on who makes semis, or finals of worlds and msi. Pool 2 would be playoffs etc.
@Pyrrha_Nikos
@Pyrrha_Nikos 10 ай бұрын
​@@lazydk2654 The problem is Worlds isn't region vs region. It's teams vs teams. DRX won Worlds last year and with your definition they should be pool 1, but they didn't even make it to Worlds. So we give LCK a pool 1 for a team that isn't there? What if that pool 1 team gets clapped by the other pool 1 teams? Say this year GAM wins Worlds because they get lucky with their draws and luck out all tournament. Does VCS next year deserve a pool 1 seeding when they only have 1 Play-Ins seed rn? I know it's a stupid example, but sometimes completely unexpected things do happen at Worlds, and they don't necessarily reflect next year's perfomances.
@Tropical_Panda
@Tropical_Panda 10 ай бұрын
Ty for the podcast! Very happy to listen to chroinicler and Atlus. I only watch LEC so I didnt know about the existance of PogState. I'm adding it to my gym podcasts list 👍
@doom_heit
@doom_heit 10 ай бұрын
I liked that a lot! More of this in the future
@shinyxlol
@shinyxlol 10 ай бұрын
LCS: NANeverSleeps Azael: hold my plane ticket
@alexandrverianov8555
@alexandrverianov8555 10 ай бұрын
about caps discussion, I feel like Vedi has Caps in such regard he takes him out of EU mids category and compares him with all time great asian mids, where Caps regretfully doesn't measure up that well. he is a greatest mid EU ever had.
@EskimoBob1337
@EskimoBob1337 10 ай бұрын
I can agree with What he said about the best in the world. To many great midlaners. But the humanoid take is bit weird. This game is more about laning.i also Think the teams Will be more focused to shutdown caps in games then they Will for humanoid. Humanoid was never in the conversation for best in the world
@alexandrverianov8555
@alexandrverianov8555 10 ай бұрын
Thats the recency bias maybe, last time we saw caps being in his prime was vs BDD in 2020, Humanoid had great showings last year
@marcosokajimajr.1709
@marcosokajimajr.1709 10 ай бұрын
All Hail the best pogcast that has been made! And pls, keep it at all Worlds! It's so fun to see caster from differente regions interacting! And would be awesome if some guests from other regions could be included (LPL and minors)!
@danantonio2672
@danantonio2672 10 ай бұрын
I always think these should be uploaded earlier than on the same day. Would have loved this a few days ago
@ninjakittie24
@ninjakittie24 10 ай бұрын
Agreed. Last couple of days there was nothing Worlds related like this and now everything is being uploaded...
@arturoflash
@arturoflash 10 ай бұрын
I mean they recorded the podcast yesterday
@manasik6108
@manasik6108 10 ай бұрын
I love the chaotic energy!
@ilisan
@ilisan 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for powering through, really fun episode!
@XaviXDJoR
@XaviXDJoR 10 ай бұрын
What a great and fun podcast this was. The banter, the prediction, Vedi HATING caps lmao, over all banger of an episode, cant wait for the next one after de best of 1s
@OlleReberg
@OlleReberg 10 ай бұрын
Vedius and the conversation around caps can be so strange at times. He has indeed had some poor performances vs great mids internationally, but he also has performances like last year in the first round vs RNG and T1 where he made fun of both Xiahou and Faker(and yes having the reverse happen after). He's nowhere near as consistent as chovy or knight but it's not uncommon for him to have standout games(including lane) where he stomps the worlds best too.
@devvision7613
@devvision7613 10 ай бұрын
Azael literally has the best takes love the content!
@j.p2115
@j.p2115 10 ай бұрын
I love the extra long podcast formats! Hopefully there's no pressure to make it shorter hahaha. Great to see the different podcast regions in one collective mega podcast.
@jordanher2354
@jordanher2354 10 ай бұрын
I share the same sentiment as Azael when it comes to Caps, he 100% was in the conversation as best mid in the world in 2019.
@KjulinQlin
@KjulinQlin 10 ай бұрын
appreciate vedi delivering the anti hopium to not jinx g2 at worlds
@skeeter3361
@skeeter3361 10 ай бұрын
The seeding question is relatively easy to resolve. Before each worlds, lets look at all the international events of the last two years, each win awards a point. That will set up a regional ranking. Top 2 regions get first two seeds in pool1, 3rd seeds in pool2, top3-4 region gets seed 1 on pool 2, top 1-2 seed 4s and top3-4 seed 2 in pool 3, rest of the seeds plus playin goes to pool 4. THat way, it always gets the best possible seeding, and most realistic power ranking.
@tipix2234
@tipix2234 10 ай бұрын
two years? one meta one team!
@88chimes
@88chimes 10 ай бұрын
I've always agreed with Vedius' takes but to say Caps has performed poorly internationally is one I hard disagree with and I'm glad Azael pushed back on this. Caps has been one of the Wests best performing players in recent league history. He was a key player in both the FNC and G2 teams that made it all the way to finals
@mwbwyatt
@mwbwyatt 10 ай бұрын
i think what he's trying to say is that when it comes down to the bigger matches vs important teams (such as finals) he's performed far worse than his norm~
@EvillAnime
@EvillAnime 10 ай бұрын
@@mwbwyatt nah caps has been really clutch, but in 2022 he didn't do the best
@vevymotivation
@vevymotivation 10 ай бұрын
recent history? like 2022 worlds 2023 msi ? bruv i love Caps but at MSI the only reason G2 lost was Caps he was heavy underperforming . But still lets hope Claps is back for worlds
@silvercharts
@silvercharts 10 ай бұрын
2018 and 2019 isn't recent by lolesport standards lmao
@Introducez
@Introducez 10 ай бұрын
xpeke
@joebadlands2110
@joebadlands2110 10 ай бұрын
Was doing some homework and this podcast was very timely for my background noise :>
@haydenmcturk2329
@haydenmcturk2329 10 ай бұрын
It actually pretty funny when Atlus said Wunder could probably play Garen because he did play Garen on g2 in 2019 I think it was actually one of their only losses.
@chrisgamez5529
@chrisgamez5529 10 ай бұрын
New Dive episode? Made my day
@rhydondaddy
@rhydondaddy 10 ай бұрын
omg the LCK casters are not dead!
@user-sg2es3jo6i
@user-sg2es3jo6i 10 ай бұрын
the audio was a bit off, specially when laughter occurred (i was hearing without headphones) just my two cents that aside, loved the content, was looking forward for something like this
@Bas1cZ
@Bas1cZ 10 ай бұрын
Vedius is smokin something, he can't say that Caps has performed poorly internationally, he can't say that Humanoid is better internationally then Caps cause that's just not true. I think people hold him to such a high standard compared to everyone else. My man has been on top form since 2018, that's 5 years now while being regarded as the top player in his team, when every opponent prepares for him, target bans him almost every game, and he reinvents himself time after time and stays relevant. I'll give you the guide for how to prepare against humanoid: Ban whichever of these is the most meta at the moment - Azir-Orianna-Viktor. Congratulations, you won against humanoid (or larssen, another 3 trick-poney). People always try to descredit Caps, but he's just the best EU has ever had period. He is built different. 2018 2nd place. 2019 2nd place. 2020 loses to the champion. 2021 the team didn't function well, but the strategy was to play for Caps. 2022 still very solid. 2023 on top of the game again, with a LARGE gap to other EU mids. 70% winrate top 48 Challenger in Korea. What else do you want from this man? Just give him the praise he deserves
@Jemnej
@Jemnej 10 ай бұрын
Well, is it fair to be upset about some injust opinions about your favorite player and do the exactly same thing to other player? Humanoids first LEC match champ picked was Aatrox mid, he has montages of Qiyana and Akali plays from LEC matches, he had some epic plays with TF, Jayce, Tristana and Sylas and still he is beast on control mages like Ori, Azir and Victor. You can try to picture other players as lesser, to support your argument, but it would be fair to point out qualities of someone you want make shine above the others without throwing shadows on the others based on your feelings, not facts. Btw Caps is goat LEC mid.
@Bas1cZ
@Bas1cZ 10 ай бұрын
@@Jemnej I might've gotten carried away, i was triggered xD
@GuyPearce217
@GuyPearce217 10 ай бұрын
@@Jemnej Caps LEC goat. Perkz western goat. I wish they play together again with Perkz as adc literally semi finals team with them on team.
@EskimoBob1337
@EskimoBob1337 10 ай бұрын
​​@@Jemnejagree, the humanoid name drop was just weird, dont think humanoid would have been close to showmaker or rookie. Thats what he mentioned when caps dint preform. Like they were not the best players in the world or close at the time.
@Anikthias
@Anikthias 10 ай бұрын
Wow, this was one of the best League podcast episodes ever. Felt like no wasted time, and everyone got equal time to speak. Just wish they'd focused on matchups a bit longer but 10/10 lads
@justin9744
@justin9744 10 ай бұрын
I think chronicler was kinda shafted. Didn’t get many opportunities to speak but the episode was great.
@Diya-dg6ur
@Diya-dg6ur 10 ай бұрын
Chronicler is amazing!!!!
@Infidel.
@Infidel. 10 ай бұрын
Fangirl
@Diya-dg6ur
@Diya-dg6ur 10 ай бұрын
@@Infidel. Hard not to be
@ThePJMcConnell
@ThePJMcConnell 10 ай бұрын
This podcast constantly popped into nonsensical chatter lol, love it
@Jeffrey_Tyler
@Jeffrey_Tyler 10 ай бұрын
I can't get over Vedius saying Caps doesn't perform well internationally. He won MSI, hard carried FNC to worlds finals, went to worlds finals the very next year with G2, and has come in 3rd at worlds. And the timeline was he was in world finals, won the next MSI, then was in the NEXT worlds finals, then came in 3rd at the next worlds. How many other players in the history of the game, any region, have won MSI and been in 2 worlds finals?
@mwbwyatt
@mwbwyatt 10 ай бұрын
i think what he means is that when G2/fnc got to those biggest stages, he was a pretty defining factor on why they got 0-3'd most times. not cuz he wasnt a good player, but his opposing mid laner was just *that * much better. he's good, but against the likes of knight and chovy theyre just...built different. he's also possibly just trying to reverse psychology G2 so they exceed expectations, cuz most times they get super hyped vs an LCK/LPL matchup they got 3-0'd. so temper expectations and maybe itll work the same way. xD
@pelagiushipbone7968
@pelagiushipbone7968 10 ай бұрын
You didn’t watch FNC 2018 if you think Caps carried them to anything lmfao
@EskimoBob1337
@EskimoBob1337 10 ай бұрын
​@@mwbwyatti can see That. But dont Mention humanoid. That was Just strange take. Like humanoid did something special international.
@Ayden24B
@Ayden24B 10 ай бұрын
36:50 There was no MSI 2020 was there? I just remember C9 winning and being upset about never getting the international experience
@Shunpon77
@Shunpon77 9 ай бұрын
It's a lot of fun coming back to this now that finals is over. Some of these takes were really good. G2 = Harlrm Globe Trotters T1 vs TL will be a spicy match
@viktorermakxv9725
@viktorermakxv9725 10 ай бұрын
Atlus, Chronicler and Valdest The GOAT casters
@EddyQ64
@EddyQ64 10 ай бұрын
Azael is easily goated
@grrumakemeangry
@grrumakemeangry 10 ай бұрын
@@EddyQ64azarl is goated if your rank is na iron
@MountainPork22
@MountainPork22 10 ай бұрын
Shortest International game is actually IG beating T1 in 15 minutes and 57 seconds at MSI 2019. It hurts as an LPL fan when people usually forget this 😢. They remember IG collapse in semis and G2 MSI win and remember T1 win on second shortest game as the shortest. Being one person, I can only yell out so loudly...
@smlbnl233
@smlbnl233 10 ай бұрын
Difference is, T1 played something very out of their comfort zone. It was Taric, and Sona if I remember it right. IG was able to capitalize on that by using very aggressive, and early power spike comp. In comparison, T1 beat MAD on standards draft, and on a scaling comp.
@watever9162
@watever9162 8 ай бұрын
It was Sona taric , I think. And ig had draven . They got the win but , not too impressed since , T1 give up basically.
@buttponcho101
@buttponcho101 10 ай бұрын
Man, but why does Vedius hate Caps though :^) Loved the podcast. Cheer up Azael
@vladimirparra1124
@vladimirparra1124 10 ай бұрын
What is Vedius saying, without Caps, Europe would be probably consider like NA o would have the same achievements as NA (None)
@whatyouknowaboutthat2546
@whatyouknowaboutthat2546 10 ай бұрын
Love the mash up of guests
@Graine01
@Graine01 10 ай бұрын
I think if seeding was to be revised, lck/lpl 1-2s pool 1, lec/lcs 1st and lck/lpl 3rd pool 2, rest are pool 3.
@definitelynotblitzcrank5566
@definitelynotblitzcrank5566 10 ай бұрын
Vedi having zero faith in any team but G2 as always. What a representative.
@Benjaminnx3
@Benjaminnx3 10 ай бұрын
God forbid he have an opinion
@pretentiousfly
@pretentiousfly 10 ай бұрын
That's because nobody but G2 and fnatic has ever proved they can win anything. I adore MAD and they're my favorite EU team but let's be honest
@FloatLikeABee
@FloatLikeABee 10 ай бұрын
So in your opinion a representative would be someone who lies or talks BS, like a politician?
@Sivzram
@Sivzram 10 ай бұрын
I mean has any EU team shown promise to do anything bar G2 in last few WORLDS?
@dragonplayz6606
@dragonplayz6606 10 ай бұрын
Asia is unbeatable because they’re not that good so Eu catches up to them. But then Eu throws with happy picks and support nasus. Then Eu loses and the cycle repeats. Pyke mid too.
@goalkeepercon
@goalkeepercon 10 ай бұрын
Such a fun podcast! Just rubs me wrong how Vedius was so mean to Caps the whole time 😄 /s
@yaibaman
@yaibaman 10 ай бұрын
Please have someone checking sound. Either having Vedi really low that its just silent or I turn it up and then everyone else is hurting my ears. (at least midway, they pull up the mic afterwards).
@dimitarbachvarov9192
@dimitarbachvarov9192 10 ай бұрын
Can't believe that we need NA fan and castor to put some respect on Caps XD
@Phil-vt3cj
@Phil-vt3cj 10 ай бұрын
great episode but please add timestamps
@Sumarbranderx
@Sumarbranderx 10 ай бұрын
They're in the description.
@arturoflash
@arturoflash 10 ай бұрын
The sad thing for Vedius is that the episode ended with a :47 😂
@r0flcopter
@r0flcopter 10 ай бұрын
This was awesome. Everyone was fantastic
@lazydk2654
@lazydk2654 10 ай бұрын
The chances of all 8 lck/lpl teams going through isnt great. Even if we assume that 5 lpl/lck teams go through in the 3-0 and 3-1 sections. In the 2-2 matches, you have 3 eastern, and 3 western teams. Odds are decent that they'll draw eachother
@nyambayartogtohtur1525
@nyambayartogtohtur1525 10 ай бұрын
Oh yeasss pog stage for worlds!!!
@cedrichofstetter4057
@cedrichofstetter4057 10 ай бұрын
This was so good
@ClairvoyanceSC2
@ClairvoyanceSC2 10 ай бұрын
W Atlus and Chronicler
@coreyblaisdell
@coreyblaisdell 10 ай бұрын
Loved the episode and the shows in general, but the Spotify upload of this episode desperately needs some compression/audio balancing. It goes from barely audible to ear-shattering constantly and made it hard to listen to during my commute. The youtube version seems better.
@natankende4973
@natankende4973 10 ай бұрын
Caps is good, to say he is playing bad is unfair. But, and this is a big but.. he has not been able to step up to the greats internationally in a while. He used to be one of them back in 2018 and 19, but nowdays, eh less so. He is still the best western mid by a large margin, but to say he can keep up with any of the top 4 eastern midlaners across LCK and LPL is in my PERSONAL opinion a bit of a cope. That said, he is still more then good enough to be the midlaner for G2 and while, I think he is not the strongest player on there I also don't think he is dragging the team down.
@guillermolanza19
@guillermolanza19 10 ай бұрын
Let's go azael!
@LeChickenSan
@LeChickenSan 10 ай бұрын
I still hope NA manages to go 0-15 at worlds this year, we can do it
@FukoHasStarfish
@FukoHasStarfish 10 ай бұрын
It's not possible for all 3 teams to go 0-3. If all 3 teams are 0-2 after the first 2 rounds, at least 1 team will go 1-2.
@donutlie315
@donutlie315 10 ай бұрын
@@FukoHasStarfish dont break my hopes like that man :(
@zaimanity8893
@zaimanity8893 10 ай бұрын
​@@donutlie315NA can still go winless against every region besides itself.
@EvillAnime
@EvillAnime 10 ай бұрын
I don't believe they can do it, at worst they can go 0-15 against other regions, but at least one NA team will get a dub
@psivern
@psivern 10 ай бұрын
@@EvillAnime Best possible outcome is 1-14, so 0-14 vs other regions
@user-bc2fm8zc3q
@user-bc2fm8zc3q 10 ай бұрын
Actually genuinely funny for a podcast episode.
@s1lentsymphony607
@s1lentsymphony607 10 ай бұрын
Fantastic episode. I want to mention something, though. 46:49 The talk about how they wanted to go hard LCK style, practice like Korean teams. But they can't. Because the quality of solo-queue time, and the quality of the scrims, are not going to instill great habits. When they go to Korea, and start dealing with solo queue in Korea, where its a different standard? They'll improve. But then they eventually have to go back to NA. So you can try to emulate LCK all you like. But until the quality of opponent in the home region improves? They'll slide back.
@JetPiol
@JetPiol 10 ай бұрын
The POG State intro music + Atlus intro line really had me hahahaha
@CheesySanchez
@CheesySanchez 10 ай бұрын
Every year people underrate Faker at World’s and every year, T1 gets to at least Semis or Finals.
@dragonplayz6606
@dragonplayz6606 10 ай бұрын
Yeah cope, mechanics only > all, copium
@DimitarSeizov1914
@DimitarSeizov1914 10 ай бұрын
And every time they lose.
@ponkadots7764
@ponkadots7764 10 ай бұрын
Sure why not, But now the question is if they can win it.
@calebwelch7615
@calebwelch7615 10 ай бұрын
​@@DimitarSeizov1914The team that has the most world's titles, yes. They've never won anything.
@yasuoarima6022
@yasuoarima6022 10 ай бұрын
Lose every finals
@kaitoxzexal7845
@kaitoxzexal7845 10 ай бұрын
WE NEED MORE OF THESE, WHERE ARE THEY
@dizzlx4662
@dizzlx4662 10 ай бұрын
THE 2ND COMING OF LORD AZAEL WOOOO MISSED YOU ON THE BROADCAST SO FAR USA USA!!
@maslow8131
@maslow8131 10 ай бұрын
We should get some timestamps
@somi_homes
@somi_homes 10 ай бұрын
Caps is the most successful western player (and midlander) at international tournaments in league ever. He is known as the western Faker. How can Vedius say Caps does not perform well internationally??!! No wonder Azael woke up and disagreed!
@tinecchi3648
@tinecchi3648 10 ай бұрын
I feel like they were talking about different things tho. Vedius was completely right that caps never can hold up with the best team at the tournament. It’s not even flame, caps is still making it work against other really good competition. But at most caps is able to go even vs Asian mids and even though caps had a fine summer playoffs.. my god this was one of the worst year for caps for sure. It’s not even like he had insane competition because his team was so dominant 😅 So I kinda agree with both takes from azael and vedius
@asianpride9294
@asianpride9294 10 ай бұрын
8:21 is when they start talking about the League.
@catsinspace1375
@catsinspace1375 10 ай бұрын
Caedrel can still appear as a guest right?
@buddieschiknful
@buddieschiknful 10 ай бұрын
Nope banned for life /s
@LetsPlayBojangles
@LetsPlayBojangles 10 ай бұрын
Of course he could, unless he signs on with another league or organization that prohibits appearances for other leagues
@jesadapatyansukhon8485
@jesadapatyansukhon8485 10 ай бұрын
@@buddieschiknfulwhat happened to him?
@0renforge424
@0renforge424 10 ай бұрын
⁠@@jesadapatyansukhon8485think he said something about wanting to focus on streaming full time
@k0rrupt64
@k0rrupt64 10 ай бұрын
@@jesadapatyansukhon8485he’s stepping back from casting to focus on streaming. he’ll be one of the co streamers for worlds
@saxo218
@saxo218 10 ай бұрын
is the volume really low or is it just me
@immagns
@immagns 10 ай бұрын
ATLUS WOW IM A BIG FAN
@Spawniiieh
@Spawniiieh 10 ай бұрын
Finally Worlds is here!!
@sashin2661
@sashin2661 10 ай бұрын
I dont agree that the best 8 teams will get out the majority of the time, they even said it in this video. Even if you assume that the eastern teams (or top 8 same premise) wins every single match against the other 8 teams there is still a 60% chance that one of them doesnt get out. Like that literally means that even if there is an astronomical gap between the top 8 and bottom 8 the correct 8 teams still doesnt get out the majority of the time. And thats not even accounting for 1 or 2 bo1 upsets which will deffinetly happen because its.......... bo1's.
@amaranth6400
@amaranth6400 10 ай бұрын
Been looking forward to this!
@_Jimhawk
@_Jimhawk 10 ай бұрын
Podcast lineup of GODS
@CoachEd
@CoachEd 10 ай бұрын
I hope we can expect atleast one rep from each region in the coming episodes.
@orionmilbury4817
@orionmilbury4817 10 ай бұрын
Missed this needed some leauge content
@GenericNameeee
@GenericNameeee 10 ай бұрын
What is Vedi talking about? Caps was literally, among most people (and players going by interviews) a top 3 midlaner during 2019 and 2020. He was literally THE LEC PLAYER during that time.
@Abishkar-q1p
@Abishkar-q1p 10 ай бұрын
man riot should make a podcast
@EarlHare
@EarlHare 10 ай бұрын
?
@theroyal908
@theroyal908 10 ай бұрын
We need a divephoria state co-stream
@ellis9290
@ellis9290 10 ай бұрын
Over the course of his career, Caps has been the best performing Western player of all time both domestically and internationally. He has had his bad games, even bad tournaments - but quite frankly, Vedius is absolutely delusional with this take. It's like saying Rooney was underwhelming because he didn't win a ballon'dor. Just really, really foolish.
@baratjoey5981
@baratjoey5981 10 ай бұрын
you. killed it :)
@360DVD
@360DVD 10 ай бұрын
My fav time of year!
@lloyd959
@lloyd959 10 ай бұрын
About caps being a liability for the team, I totally agree. Not to say that caps is bad or anything, but it felt to me like whenever his team started falling apart (fnc and g2) it was him getting destroyed first. For example the games versus Rookie and DionB, it felt like he had no answer to them when he lost. So it's not to say caps is bad, he is the goated EU midlaner. Though i totally understand Vedius viewpoint.
@movieslover6475
@movieslover6475 10 ай бұрын
Saying historically humanioid is better internationally then caps is not only cope, but massive disrespect. Massive L from vedius, no matter what the results of this worlds is
@movieslover6475
@movieslover6475 10 ай бұрын
Caps was mvp of msi btw hahahah
@movieslover6475
@movieslover6475 10 ай бұрын
Respect to azael for pushing back, what a massive L
@worvansuns8574
@worvansuns8574 10 ай бұрын
@azael First GG lose to BDS now THIS?!? We needed that Rock-Paper-Scissors win for NA dude. 😞
@mauriciobetimpaesleme8702
@mauriciobetimpaesleme8702 10 ай бұрын
34:20 Hey Vedius, I had to pick a comment of mine from earlier this year but I did (the) minimum research of LCK and LPL teams at Worlds after the LPL Boom: Every year since 2019 China has been considered the best region easily and yet the number od teams qualifying to Worlds Semi-finals has Korea winning 8-6 against China and in quarters Korea is also ahead 14-10 from 2019 to 2022. I agree that Chinese teams feel better #1 to #4 but I never count Korea out, specially after DRX miracle run.
@winterqq1270
@winterqq1270 10 ай бұрын
you can't add the "phoria" part without my boy Drakos!!!
@F00Lsmack
@F00Lsmack 10 ай бұрын
Seed the groups better. 1st group should be top two from Korea and China. That's the only change this needs
@user46421
@user46421 10 ай бұрын
They won't do that because riot wants western teams in the quarterfinals
@EddyQ64
@EddyQ64 10 ай бұрын
We shall see how it all plays out. Swiss format should course correct easily
@EarlHare
@EarlHare 10 ай бұрын
yak yak yak the whole podcast and then wake up at the last minute in a frantic panic, pure adhd podcast lmao
@HolyShitNew
@HolyShitNew 10 ай бұрын
caps in internationals always was great last year msi he was a walking highlight reel in worlds sure he underperformed this msi i dont exactly remember his performance but i remember that g2 was competetive so idk
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