Jojo Mayer: Redefining Drumming with Generative Technology

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@LDdrums20 24 күн бұрын

Man the second part of the video was very interesting and insightful

@swissinfo 23 күн бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

@Klausitodrums 26 күн бұрын

Jojo Mayer is a giant. A driver and innovator. More creative in the purest sense. I love his restlessness and curiosity. He has no fear of contact and sees art as a venture and risk, but also as a playground and the resulting opportunity to discover new things. He stands on the shoulders of giants and knows the meaning and responsibilty of it. But what impresses me, in addition to his incredible virtuosity, musicality and creativity, is his vision and ability to place his artistic possibilities in a highly interesting philosophical discourse. Jojo Mayer. Creative Musician. Innovator. Philosopher.

@sevenfacecomplex 25 күн бұрын

what a joke

@Klausitodrums 25 күн бұрын

@@sevenfacecomplex 😂

@bananaemon2339 21 күн бұрын

Jojo's Bizarre Drumming Adventure !! 😎 Exploring and pushing the limits ! 💪💪 Thank you man 🙏

@SaS-Music 27 күн бұрын

JoJo “Gadget” Mayer.

@sonicart1808 10 күн бұрын

JoJo is smart, he realises this technology is going to be prevalent in the times to come and he's working on ways of using it and opening up new possibilities...great musician and mind.

@Bsloga 26 күн бұрын

So refreshing and hopeful. He is a modern musical giant and innovator. Fantastic and inspiring.

@pastadrums 22 күн бұрын

I would love for JOJO to release this close loop thing. I would love to just play to myself like this!

@fess04 26 күн бұрын

keep exploring Jojo. fantastic. drumming is a language and this has new implications for language and action.

@juanmanuelpache381 26 күн бұрын

Incredible JoJo! Thanks for giving this! Greeting from Argentina 🇦🇷🥁

@rudedoc 26 күн бұрын

I appreciate Jojo's thoughts and ideas on creativity much more than I do his current musical output. It feels like the music and performance is now only a guide or a tool that allows him to examine his theories and philosophies on creativity and original thought and I kind of like this.

@swissinfo 23 күн бұрын

Thank you for watching, glad to hear you liked it!

@yurysverdlov2935 23 күн бұрын

Jojo is extremely insightful. Thank you for filming this!

@universalmeditation8631 23 күн бұрын

I’ve respected JOJO since the 80s and this video explains why! ❤

@MelchioDrum 9 күн бұрын

This is how a visionary person is.

@jasonhobaugh 26 күн бұрын

Please get this amazing concept to market! ❤

@vickytok65 15 күн бұрын

This young man is geniuinely genuine. ❤

@MaximinoSantos 13 күн бұрын

Ótimas perguntas! Jo Jo é um dos meus filósofos favoritos.

@betulaobscura 9 күн бұрын

Interviews with Jojo Mayer are always interesting.

@swissinfo 8 күн бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

@davidepentassuglia9234 19 күн бұрын

Great drummer and artist. At 60 yo still young and modern. The things he said are very interesting! Great art can not be created whit opportunism 👏

@TapatioDrummer 21 күн бұрын

it doesnt surprises me at all ! That Jojo is already looking into the future with these technologies, soon enough we all will be studying what has explored, just like we do right now

@GerardoSolnie 20 күн бұрын

Jojo thinks that the opportunistic spirit of the Swiss is not the best for developing art. I can add a thought to that: being close to death makes you feel more alive but more stressed However, I must say that the peace and organization in Switzerland is admirable, and many musicians, including myself, are very grateful to Switzerland and its festivals, such as the Montreux Festival, which opened my mind to making music around the world. The care and attention of the Swiss made me feel very good! I am grateful to Switzerland and the Swiss for what they have given me. 🙌🏻❤️🇨🇭✨✨

@GerardoSolnie 20 күн бұрын

As a token of our gratitude to the Swiss and the beautiful city of Bern, we have composed this song. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r7Kqa6R528myhHk.htmlsi=n4sClPnRZegeN40U

@fredrikh3547 25 күн бұрын

Such a fantastic drummer, Mr Mayer. A pleasure to hear and behold.

@bibliotecacentralutnfra1338 27 күн бұрын

JOJO is the Nicola Tesla of drums.

@AroCaceresdrums 26 күн бұрын

excelente !

@mktfree 21 күн бұрын

Ándale

@CamiloMoyaBaterista 15 күн бұрын

1000000000 better than Colaiuta

@hybrid8253 10 күн бұрын

Akira Jimbo was doing this 20 years ago (maybe even longer)

@CamiloMoyaBaterista 10 күн бұрын

@@hybrid8253 🙄🙄🙄

@MIDIPipe 22 күн бұрын

Thanks You Very Maestr@s For Sharing These Investigations. I am so, so glad to be alive in this exciting part of the human era...

@k.f.241 26 күн бұрын

Unbelievable! Best wishes from Croatia guys 🎉

@AardvaarkTonto 27 күн бұрын

Go to Liverpool and see Paul Kappa on Saturday at the Cavern Pub. 5 hours no break, no rehearsal, live learn it on the fly band. Secret legends.

@gauravpf 17 күн бұрын

Jojo is an infinite inspiration..

@maurice_drums 26 күн бұрын

Wow, so suprised about how Jojo Mayer and I‘m from Switzerland! Crazy guy and just so interesting documentary, this was really interesting and inspiring. Thank you!

@DrumTipTuesday 26 күн бұрын

This is fantastic! You are always so imaginative

@BmakinFilm 10 күн бұрын

Thanks for a well shot and lengthy interview with a thoughtful and dedicated drummer who raised the bar for all drummers with his dedication to the craft: never stop Jo Jo!

@swissinfo 8 күн бұрын

Glad you liked it!

@elvissanchez8985 5 күн бұрын

Daing Jojo is far ahead of the game!! 👌🙌👏🔥❤️

@elvissanchez8985 5 күн бұрын

An insight into the depth of Jojo’s philosophy of music. This video is great!!!

@swissinfo Күн бұрын

@@elvissanchez8985 Glad you like it!

@alonzovillarreal4666 23 күн бұрын

This man is always so innovative

@CurtisMichelson-dk6ho 25 күн бұрын

This looks to be the highest/best for artists to interface with AI, not only for music but all forms of expression. Thank you JoJo for spending your covid downtime in such a productive way!❤

@bobvanluijt897 17 күн бұрын

This is an excellent interview / docu

@karenush388 21 күн бұрын

Wow! Fantastic idea! 22 century ❤

@Santiagoperroud_music 27 күн бұрын

This is the future thank you again JOJO !

@RainerSteffenHain 24 күн бұрын

If this is the future I will stop listening to new music.

@ericwilhelm2941 25 күн бұрын

I think i said that before somewhere, Jojo ist ein Philosoph A great great THINKER and Innovator. we are very lucky to live at this time with him speaking his great Mind. and yes, a true Baddass am Schlagzeug!!!

@Omantrs 20 күн бұрын

Excelente! Es muy interesante la información que comparte el maestro Jojo, gracias.

@JohnnyCarterMusicOfficial 24 күн бұрын

the dude is an evil mad scientist for drums 😅 -been watching jojo for 15 years, super happy that he's still in good health and still playing !!

@romaneberle 25 күн бұрын

Jojo Mayer is just great. :)

@nyla3979 26 күн бұрын

Truly next level !!

@Dmz248 20 күн бұрын

How does he capture the sound to feed it? I'm assuming a room mic that gathers all or just kick and snare? How is it processed before being fed into the model? If it's raw audio how damn strong does his machine have to be to do it live, in real time on stage with little to no latency?!?! Is there an actual LLM-like model involved or is that just randomized reactions to triggers??? So many questions. As a drummer who dabbles in data science i'm baffled, amused, shocked, excided and worried all at the same time. Mad scientist of the drum world, hats off, Jojo!

@sandwich-breath 13 күн бұрын

Ableton Live sync'd to live metronome input, random pattern generator, midi fed into a bass synth (likely Operator), and many layers. Short answer - it's Ableton Live...

@Dmz248 12 күн бұрын

@@sandwich-breath so much less sophisticated that it's made to seem. Still impressive, but it's not generative technology

@sandwich-breath 12 күн бұрын

@@Dmz248 I don’t believe so, but that’s not detracting from JoJo… he’s a monster drummer. If anyone is using their talents to generate AI I’m happy he’s on it!

@grooverbc 21 күн бұрын

Danke für inspierierenden Gedanken - Philosophy in motion

@lajeanette33 25 күн бұрын

I hope it gets available for other drummers soon.

@fredifreudi9034 14 күн бұрын

This is realy great. Thank you. JoJo Mayer became an enlightened master: I adore him. The only thing I'd like to know, is the latency time of the laptops and that KI music system to jam with now below the 5 milliseconds of our ears can hear between two different signals? And can that programm and the hardware be purchase somewhere? Thank You🙏

@scottr5211 10 күн бұрын

Fascinating. Not surprised that Jojo came up with this. He’s always ahead of the curve. Anyone know who makes the software he’s using?

@jordanwarne911 27 күн бұрын

Awesome ! 🥁🥁🥁

@RainerSteffenHain 24 күн бұрын

No, it has hurt my eyes and also my ears.

@jdubhman 25 күн бұрын

Very cool!

@afrigal2420 26 күн бұрын

still love your work!!

@OlimpiuVuia 16 күн бұрын

Wow! Thank you for sharing!

@swissinfo 8 күн бұрын

Glad you like it!

@artemmelnik7965 10 күн бұрын

I think we witness here something really unimaginable: a Swiss person contemplating on the Swiss Weltanschauung. I always thought that this is a taboo in Switzerland, or Swiss are simply incapable of any self-introspection. Jaw-dropping! 😧

@swissinfo 8 күн бұрын

Well, that's a bit too clichéd, isn't it?

@mazetoeden9334 25 күн бұрын

Jojo is awesome

@sobrehombre9338 29 күн бұрын

Yes!!

@johnnhello4913 27 күн бұрын

Awesome

@IkeFarI 26 күн бұрын

I loved to hear him talking ! As a drummer myself, it’s very interesting ! However, I think with his AI tools that follows his playing automatically. It could sound a bit less electronic or like EDM. But I guess that’s his will.

@nlabbe 12 күн бұрын

Jojo 🔥

@soulproprietor 27 күн бұрын

Once they teach the robots to play drums with the technique, feel, musicality and inventiveness of players like Jojo Mayer, it's pretty much over. But it could also go a different way... basic run-of-the-mill "sonic wallpaper" type of music could become even more common and uninteresting --- while in-person experiences of humans making music by hand in real time will become less common and more valued. Who knows???

@creativephilo 26 күн бұрын

This is the only way I can find hope. People like JoJo Mayer will hopefully become ignored as people get back to organic creativity with other humans.

@ianchui7711 26 күн бұрын

He is so innovative ❤

@RainerSteffenHain 24 күн бұрын

The dehumanization of music is not innovative!

@ginobanksofficial 23 күн бұрын

Epic

@tommyvizzle 22 күн бұрын

Anyone know what program he's using?

@bromasi 21 күн бұрын

NICE❤️

@kreisformch 27 күн бұрын

🔥

@SaintMont 26 күн бұрын

He is always thinking outside of the box. I loved the full interview but can you upload the performance of "I machine"? I think he called that way.

@swissinfo 23 күн бұрын

You probably mean the name of his project "Me/Machine"? He's still touring with it so you might be able to catch one of the live performances!

@mrbgnle 16 күн бұрын

I've done similar stuff using Bitwig. Different parts of the drums triggering instruments, note randomisers, effects et cetera. Real fun!

@flyagaric23 20 күн бұрын

The human breakbeat trip wizard just keeps on giving...

@bumsibar6163 26 күн бұрын

Thanks for that. Both words and drumming couldnt resonate with more with me. Like a future Tony Williams and the cultural theorist Mark Fisher who wrote a long time ago that the 21st century will be reliving the ideas of the 20th century, but in hi definition. The way we experience artistic time periods is dying as we speak,” explains the video’s narrator. “In our current state of this new postmodern social existence that we see in the West, historicity is gone. The way we interact and experience time is starting to fade away into a confused jumbled mess of aesthetic chaos.” Also useful how he programmed himself his very own Tim Lefebvre. Jojo Mayer: What a beautiful human being

@drumbar3790 25 күн бұрын

Where can we buy this app/program?

@swissinfo 23 күн бұрын

He created it by himself. But as he said in the interview, it's still a work in progress, so it'll probably still take a while before it gets to the market (if at all).

@superjaykramer 22 күн бұрын

What generative software is he using???

@RochusKeller 26 күн бұрын

Cool. How did he actually do it? What is "the machine"? Is it just a program on the laptop? Did he write it himself? From scratch, or which building blocks did he use?

@jorgemarcos3771 26 күн бұрын

Exactly! Does anyone have any info on this???

@Reversed82 23 күн бұрын

it looks and sounds like what he's actually performing on is probably some max4live device or rack in ableton live that he came up with. generative patches aren't really something new in any modern DAW, but combining it with live drum signals as an input is untypical but not unrealistic. could be that there's more to it but that's exactly what it sounds like in those short snippets. not sure about how it "follows" his playing in terms of time signatures, though "following" kind of implies that it's just matching a tempo and follows sequences because it just repeats the rhythm on the input so he can vary but repeat a sequence and it will seem like the processing is "following" his rhythm. what would be more interesting is if it anticipated certain changes, but i'd guess that's not something that's doable right now.

@RochusKeller 23 күн бұрын

@@Reversed82 Thanks; so it's not really based on deep neural networks - as I supposed from the interview - but rather conventional algorithms.

@Reversed82 22 күн бұрын

@@RochusKeller i would guess so, it's definitely not impossible to do using conventional technology. i know there are some generative tools in DAWs now that use fancy transformers and stuff but i don't think this does; especially stuff like suno etc. that actually generates an audio signal directly takes way too much compute time to run in this low-latency context. (not saying it's impossible, just that it's unlikely)

@beckmillan 26 күн бұрын

The future is now.

@hybrid8253 10 күн бұрын

Akira Jimbo was doing this 20 years ago

@nnnbbb2148 26 күн бұрын

Apart from being a great drummer and musician this guy is also a philosopher.

@RainerSteffenHain 24 күн бұрын

...now going to dehumanize music.

@ddummer 19 күн бұрын

I like thinking brains... with drumsticks attached.. :)

@youngtevanced8818 26 күн бұрын

Whoah

@mattdrums8341 20 күн бұрын

Classic. This from a man arrogant and empathyless enough to say to my then 14 year old pupil when we told him my pupil was entering a Roland drumkit playing competition "huh, those kits are just a glorified drum pad". If he's been like he was with my pupil with the musicians he's played with, no wonder he's left to play with a heartless feel-less machine. What's more all the techniques he claims as his own aren't "push pull", they're from a long lineage of great players starting with Moeller and tap dancers. I was around at the start of the rave generation, he was also not the first drummer to play drum and bass/electronica music. I'm not jealous, he's a great player, he's just not very nice especially to kids in my experience.

@daviewavie112 26 күн бұрын

“Analytical perception of fourth dimensionality, you know what I mean?”

26 күн бұрын

Esa máquina es una buena fumada

@daniel_fa 27 күн бұрын

🎮🥁🔥

@Samsgarden 16 күн бұрын

If you can't beat em, join em.

@dtasoudis 25 күн бұрын

I would propose a duet with Imogen Heap!

@russellzauner 26 күн бұрын

need to get Jojo and Imogene (Heap) together

@jonathonawarnberg 26 күн бұрын

I live in a rural town where there are nearly no other musicians. I can't wait until I see the day that I can improvise with AI in real time.

@swissinfo 23 күн бұрын

Interesting example of problem solving - how much time are you investing now to meet up with other musicians outside of your rural town?

@jonathonawarnberg 23 күн бұрын

@@swissinfo It's not possible for me. I'm disabled and don't drive.

@TehSyneS 25 күн бұрын

Ableton drummer made max for live devices for this, youtube him.

@Pure_KodiakWILD_Power 27 күн бұрын

It's still a closed loop with the same feel, not able to flow into different yet intuitive directions like actual musicians can.

@graymccarthy685 26 күн бұрын

The Bays (Andy Gangadeen) have just announced a London show where Tom Middleton (Global Communication) will act as an ‘AI moderator’. This human/AI moderator may bridge this gap into pushing the music in different directions.

@alibardgett1493 26 күн бұрын

Always pushing the boundaries! Creativity is limitless for Jojo 😎🥁🎶

@Kung_Fu_Jesus 16 күн бұрын

@@graymccarthy685Tom Middleton is a superb producer

@pedrummer 24 күн бұрын

That's until H.A.L. comes along... Terminator 2, anyone?

@user-ju7dw5jm2h 16 күн бұрын

@TR-707 25 күн бұрын

Ableton Live detected

@perecanyelles6469 26 күн бұрын

U need to play with Björk

@santiagoarias50 20 күн бұрын

12:18 wild NPCs spotted in nature.

@Craiger522 26 күн бұрын

This would be soooo much more listenable and entertaining without the computer generated stuff. AI at this point has no soul.

@pongmaster123 26 күн бұрын

super - wie immer! trotz mumble-interviewer...

@RainerSteffenHain 24 күн бұрын

Entmenschlichung der Musik.

@vitogobbo9338 17 күн бұрын

Maybe is Skynet learns to play drums it won't be so agressive vs. humans

@brahimiamar4471 10 күн бұрын

I think it is really scary. How can jojo say that one can make music without exactly knowing how to play ? Yes, freaking scary. After this, next step will be no musicians needed, just IA. Einstein did not know it either... Not a good direction.

@mosstet 8 күн бұрын

this ain't natural guys

@RainerSteffenHain 24 күн бұрын

Of course, Mr. Mayer is a great drummer. But: Mr. Mayer really doesn't look healthy. Maybe that's because of the way he makes music? I think what he's demonstrating in the video is pure dehumanization of music. Sorry to say that, but that's how I feel about it...

@davidepentassuglia9234 19 күн бұрын

I think is an experiment and JoJo will continues to play with other musician.

@creativephilo 26 күн бұрын

Not impressed. Just another technocratic ego trying to get attention for himself as he contributes to the extermination of humans in art.

@hadror13 25 күн бұрын

There's no "extermination of humans in art" taking place. This is a new and evolving technology. Human technology. Musicians were always at the forefront of technological innovation and human inspired artistic expression interfaces (ie musical instruments).. This is another tool for artists that expands their expression capabilities

@creativephilo 25 күн бұрын

@@hadror13 Ah right, the tired old "AI is just another tool" argument. This whole video is all about human replacement. And it's awful. Believe what you will.

@RainerSteffenHain 24 күн бұрын

@@hadror13 It's simply the dehumanization of Music!

@garridoentertainmenttv9615 23 күн бұрын

@@RainerSteffenHainI absolutely agree with you!!

@BmakinFilm 10 күн бұрын

The piano roll, then the jukebox did replace some people and bands (major disruptors) but clearly did not put an end to people making great music

@rv-sx4tw 26 күн бұрын

Would soon get bored of that; not much different to a Roland electric kit, playing to the supplied tracks. Well, that’s what it sounded like. He said he was changing time sig but he was careful not to say he’s changing tempo, cos it didn’t, it was all 16ths equal 16ths. Same bass line, same key. But keep it up and you’ll put yourself (and many others) out of a job, with this sterile manufactured ‘music’. Really, it’s useless.

@gt3065 26 күн бұрын

what a waste of talent with this crap.

@toto36930 11 күн бұрын

Nice! Sounds like garbage. Great drummer tho

@randyclere2330 26 күн бұрын

WOW!!!

@dasczwo 8 күн бұрын

man. finally. listen to him. im no one. been also playing with that since the pandemic. theres a nice generative audio looper wich plays you back in your style. buggy. max for live. to dumb to use it properly. heres the thing bout ai: every attempt with ai in music was to replace EVERY part of the chain. my guitar and fx are fine. my synths are fine. i´m fine, midi and connections SUCK. its 2024! someone solve this! there are nice developments with algorithmix fx like hologram microcosm. more of that. bring prices down while your at it.