SX500 Ultimate Street Build - Amorge Battery and EC4P V3 Motor Install
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Күн бұрынThe ultimate goal with this Razor SX500 electric dirt bike is to build a ridiculously fast street-worthy Electric Mini Supermoto. In this video, I'll be installing a new brushless motor from E&C and the largest battery I can fit in the frame (while keeping the stock plastics.)
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@MooseRidez 2 ай бұрын
Dont sell yourself short. Go noisy cricket or fardriver 72450. They dont support fardriver as they had contracts with kelly and now have there own vesc based controllers. I have 3000+ miles on my ec4p v1 with the 72450
@Razorcrew_Cole 2 ай бұрын
FW 11 over EC all day. The FW makes that EC look like a my1020. The KR 5V is supposed to do better than this also for cheaper we'll see it's coming
@MooseRidez 2 ай бұрын
@@Razorcrew_Colethe v3 is wild and ec5p is even more potent. A guy is running 82 mph on 200amps. Ive seen a few teases of ryan with his kr5. Cant wait to get.my hand on it!
@Razorcrew_Cole 2 ай бұрын
@@MooseRidez they've been telling me mine's coming for over 2 months now! 🙄 They gave me a deal cuz I've helped them work on it for the past year but like damn I hope it is decent at least lol
@TURBOMOOSE 2 ай бұрын
@Razorcrew_Cole i got a refund as i didnt want to wait lmao. But the left side motor mount holes (for the razor mount) were made incorrectly so they had stop all orders lmao.
@TURBOMOOSE 2 ай бұрын
@@Razorcrew_Cole i hate when yt decides to just randonly change what account im on lmaoc
@alanwilliams3909 2 ай бұрын
Looks good Pat! Gotta love those razor decals!
@searsfam5317 2 ай бұрын
Dude this is such a clean build keep it up pat.
@TheTexasDuke 2 ай бұрын
It’s going good stoked for more
@ConnorGMedia 2 ай бұрын
Looking great!
@YaTuChavez 2 ай бұрын
I just pulled the trigger on the 11KW Kit from E&C and I cant wait for all my parts to come in so I can start building!
@PatOutdoors 2 ай бұрын
Congrats!
@PatOutdoors 2 ай бұрын
Did u end up getting their battery too?
@oneway_sting 2 ай бұрын
Aye its coming along! ❤
@burn1gotbeats 2 ай бұрын
such a good video 🫡👍🏼. the Noisy Cricket would be my choice of controller.
@PatOutdoors 2 ай бұрын
Yeah I think I’ll just bite the bullet and pay the extra
@burn1gotbeats 2 ай бұрын
@@PatOutdoors 😎
@dakotaleeanderson 2 ай бұрын
Get the lil bit !
@rainbow6replay733 2 ай бұрын
Noisy cricket all the way i really enjoy mines and dont regret the high price at all well worth it. Plus you can make changes on the go with the app no dongle required all built in bluetooth.
@PatOutdoors 2 ай бұрын
Sold!
@rainbow6replay733 2 ай бұрын
@@PatOutdoors glad I was able to help, the little bit requires a dongle which come with it but I find that annoying and easily able to lose if I take with me on rides.
@jasonjulian1 Ай бұрын
Just getting into modding and building electric bikes and upgrades myself here, coming from gas bikes, but the price of the good batteries really makes this a tough hobby to go all out in. Motors aren’t bad, options exist for affordable controllers and throttles….but man, batts are just nuts unless you settle for SLA.
@PatOutdoors Ай бұрын
You just have to bite the bullet for a quality battery.. I settled for SLA for my first razor 48v build and I got bored after a week. Going brushless with a high output lithium battery is key!
@richperkins5192 Ай бұрын
No doubt. Battery prices sure make a brand new mikuni or keihin carb look cheap. I’m gonna keep my focus on gas bikes but going to build up an electric to add to the collection
@jasonjulian1 Ай бұрын
@@richperkins5192 same! With a half dozen different gas bikes... The electric is just a novelty project for me. I'll probably not build more than one though.
@downtown4279 Ай бұрын
did you use the stock mototec clamps as well for the fork? what else is needed?
@PatOutdoors Ай бұрын
Factory mototec forks with EMXBrandon’s adapter kit. This fork was gifted to me as it was
@flaviodesignaquariums1690 2 ай бұрын
Do you prefer mx500/600 or sx platform? I have a moded mx500 I ride & two stock mx6500 for my kids .looking to get one more to mod,build Don't know if should stick w mx or try a sx..
@PatOutdoors 2 ай бұрын
I currently have 2 MX650 and 2 SX500. This is my first SX500 I’m modifying, but so far I’ve noticed more potential with this chassis due to frame geometry and space for a large battery for big power builds. The MX650 is great and more available to find used, but just take a little bit of cutting on the center of the frame to make room for a decent 20-32AH battery.
@nexgenautopros2048 2 ай бұрын
Do you have a link for the forks?
@smftfilms9423 2 ай бұрын
Hello, I am going to be building on for myself but Im confused if a BTR 72v battery with 60ah and a 80a continous discharge. Will this work to get all the power I need? Or should I get a battery with a higher discharge rate? Ive very confused becuase Im trying to run as much compacity as possible. With the discharge rate affect the performace of speed and power?
@PatOutdoors 2 ай бұрын
Skip the BTR packs if you want real power and reliability. You should get a battery that matches what your controller can put out also. Idk what razor frame can fit a 60ah battery. What bike do you have?
@auxxs 2 ай бұрын
I love watching your videos. I got my own break as well, but the crucial heart is the only part. I’m missing the battery. It’s so expensive one day I’ll see her. I got speed controller and motor for a 72.v The speed controller is not all that I had got my from Amazon. And that thing is humongous. I just love watching videos you’re very inspirational. I just wish the batteries were not so expensive. also, is it possible for a 48 V? or I think it’s 40 V not sure will it be able to power my bike up or is it not ideal?
@PatOutdoors 2 ай бұрын
It's the hardest part to pull the trigger on, but it's the most important since it's what really supplies the power. You can have the best motor and controller and your bike simply will not perform unless you have enough juice to supply for both. I've done other budget builds in the past with 48V, but it's only exciting for a few weeks before you outgrow the performance.
@Carter_Russell 29 күн бұрын
I have a razor and was wondering I’m trying to disconnect the motor plugs from my controller to motor and it seems to be stuck can’t get it unplugged for some reason can I cut both wires and heat shrink them together and they will still work?
@PatOutdoors 29 күн бұрын
@@Carter_Russell sounds like the connector melted together for a reason.. I wouldn’t recommend a permanent connection, just replace it with another set of connectors
@Carter_Russell 28 күн бұрын
@@PatOutdoors would heat shrink work tho?
@michaeltomczyk8776 21 күн бұрын
What are you using to strap your batter down
@PatOutdoors 21 күн бұрын
The Straps that came with the Ride Or Die Battery Kit Installed
@harjitdhanoa5029 Ай бұрын
Hello i was just wondering what ks the process of buying the amorge battry and when buying it of ali baba its not scam right Thanks
@PatOutdoors Ай бұрын
It’s not, but you could also email info@amore on their website and they can send you an invoice
@handler_k 24 күн бұрын
how long did the battery take to be delivered to you and how much was the shipping?
@PatOutdoors 24 күн бұрын
My battery took about 3 weeks to get. I paid just under $400 for shipping, but that’s for two batteries I ordered at the same time.
@robburley9494 2 ай бұрын
Deffo noisy cricket far driver map doesn't match the electro & co motor apparently.
@Smokey00 2 ай бұрын
I had a 45ah one 😎
@PatOutdoors 2 ай бұрын
What brand? Did you have to modify the factory side plastic covers to fit it?
@Smokey00 2 ай бұрын
@@PatOutdoors amorge with Samsung cells. Mine was able to fit I made the battery tray tabs flat instead of using the platform
@Mr_DubPug 2 ай бұрын
i know ive asked a lot in the past 😅 but i got another question so i fully built my mx500 with a 2000w motor a 48v btr power battery and when i drive it makes like this cracking sound i have no idea what it is its From the back though its totally fine if you don't know im just curious because it makes me not want to ride it because it's quite loud. My dad said it my be the spokes but i tightened them and its still happening, Any clue?
@PatOutdoors 2 ай бұрын
Without seeing a bike in person, it’s impossible for me to know what bolts are loose or welds are cracked.. if it’s a creaking noise when your going over bumps, check the bolts for the rear shock. Also check the tension of the rear shock spring, condition of the rear freewheel, etc.
@Mr_DubPug 2 ай бұрын
@@PatOutdoors the rear shock is pretty old and tightened a lot it might be that I plan on getting a new shock soon so I'm going to look into that thanks
@Zx7o. 2 ай бұрын
You're in the 2 big FB groups right? All of the issues of installing have been outlined in the groups... If you get the swingarm extensions you don't have to shave down the heat sink on the motor. Plus the extensions will give you you axel slots to delete the chain tensioner..
@PatOutdoors 2 ай бұрын
No im not. I don’t even have a Facebook. I have the swing arm extensions already and I’m deleting the tensioner
@Rippinandfishin 2 ай бұрын
How much did you get that battery for?
@PatOutdoors 2 ай бұрын
I wanna say about $900 shipped, I bought two different batteries at the same time. Email info@amorge for specific pricing for your shipping preference
@handler_k 19 күн бұрын
Great channel! Im doing my 1st project ever with a mx650 and I wanted to know more about the battery. I have a 3kW kunray motor and Im not sure if I should look for the nominal power or the max supported power in the amorge battery? The price difference is huge. Can you tell me the pros and cons if I choose a 30amp battery with a max discharge of 200amps?
@PatOutdoors 19 күн бұрын
@@handler_k well what voltage is the battery? 30 amps continuous is a bit low.. Cons is it’s not gonna make much power. Pros is it’s cheap maybe? 72v at 30 amp is barely over 2kw of power output (continuous.) my MX650 battery has a 60 amp BMs and the Kelly controller is tuned the same and I had to play with the gearing after just to get it to hit 50 mph. THIS sx500 is gonna be a different story with 200 amp continuous with 84v full charged.. but the build is also gonna cost me over $3k..
@handler_k 19 күн бұрын
@@PatOutdoors its a 72v battery. The specs state that it also has a 200amps continuous discharge and a max support rating power of 12kW. But being a 32* amp battery its electric energy is 2304wh. Not sure what spec to look here. Im not a speed devil but i also dont want to overheat and damage the battery,the motor or controller which is supporting 50amps max
@PatOutdoors 19 күн бұрын
@@handler_k do you mean 32 “amp hour”? That’s the size and overall capacity. What’s the peak and continuous amp output rating on the battery management system? This battery I’m using is rated for 400 amp peak and can support up to 25kW of power.
@handler_k 19 күн бұрын
@@PatOutdoors youtube deleted my previous reply but here is the list of specs: Nominal Voltage: 72V Nominal Capacity: 32AH Electric Energy: 2304Wh Max Continuous Discharge Current: 200AMP Max Peak Discharge Current: 280AMP Max Rated Power: 12KW Max PEAK Power: 20.16KW Cell Type: Lishen 21700LA ( I read they are not the best. But are they problematic? Will the battery last just 1 year? Or is it worth to get the molicel/Samsung versions) It also has a BMS with bluetooth
@PatOutdoors 19 күн бұрын
@@handler_k that’s a beast of a battery! It will supply more than enough for any razor.. what controller are you using though? That may be the limiting factory. Kunray motor (72v kit) should take 5kW no problem.
@horimo8920 2 ай бұрын
Will you ever be doing giveaways with these for the SX500 or MX650?
@PatOutdoors 2 ай бұрын
Yes, an MX650 soon.
@horimo8920 2 ай бұрын
@@PatOutdoors Awesome!
@JonnyDuzzit 2 ай бұрын
Nvm the razor, you got vids of that E-dirty? 👀😅
@PatOutdoors 2 ай бұрын
Lmao my other channel sometime soon 😂
@InfinitefactsX Ай бұрын
What is the total price??
@michaellinton9992 2 ай бұрын
I would like to order that amorge 72v 40ah battery but I don't want to get got😢
@PatOutdoors 2 ай бұрын
I emailed info@amorge.com directly to feel a bit more secure
@sikone4506 Ай бұрын
Is the sx bigger than the mx ?
@PatOutdoors Ай бұрын
Wheelbase wise no, though the top of the frame is higher on the SX which makes it easy to fit a larger battery
@sikone4506 Ай бұрын
@@PatOutdoors nice I'm 6'1 so I might run the sx by time I stretch it and add taller forks it looks visibly bigger from the video thanks for the video
@noce1071 2 ай бұрын
Pat, Saturday may 25th of Memorial Day weekend. A few of us from Modified Razors for Adults and BombMoto Electric Dirtbikes FB groups are traveling to DC for a group ride. Are you going to join us?
@PatOutdoors 2 ай бұрын
I REALLY want to go that weekend, but I already committed to a family event in Jersey city same day 😞. Y’all riding Sunday too?
@noce1071 2 ай бұрын
I'm originally from Jersey. You won't miss that place. We are only going for the day. Primo said that they're having rides on both days.
@socc3r7k1ng 6 күн бұрын
What rear sprocket is that?
@PatOutdoors 6 күн бұрын
Not the one I’m using! It’s a really small 25H.. I’m posting an update video tonight with details on what I’ll be using (35H.)
@socc3r7k1ng 6 күн бұрын
@@PatOutdoors Cool thanks. I have 2 bikes with stock gears and just looking for a cheap upgrade for now.
@PatOutdoors 6 күн бұрын
@@socc3r7k1ng if you have an MY1020 motor, you can do a 13T sprocket for the front for like $12
@socc3r7k1ng 6 күн бұрын
@@PatOutdoors yeah I have a front 11T coming in, was more wanting to upgrade the stock rear one.
@DescartesRenegade 2 ай бұрын
Votol em100gtr. Takes 300 battery AMPs. Best value by FAR and has about as smooth throttle as vesc.
@PatOutdoors 2 ай бұрын
I look into it! I have the Votol EM-260SP on my Yamaha. Would the EM100 come programmed? Is there an auto-tune function? I'm just a bit intimidated with that portion of the install
@DescartesRenegade 2 ай бұрын
@@PatOutdoors is doesn't come pre-tuned, unfortunately. It's not as popular as the fardrivers because it's not as easy to use, but it performs like hell and has way smoother throttle. Electro and Co sells the em100gtr, but I forget with what motor. Maybe they'd accommodate you and sell you one with it pre-tuned for the EC4P.
@ChiLly___ Ай бұрын
would that battery fit in an mx500?
@PatOutdoors Ай бұрын
No
@ChiLly___ Ай бұрын
@@PatOutdoors not even if i flatten the battery tray?
@PatOutdoors Ай бұрын
@@ChiLly___ did not fit in my MX650. Maybe you can try with yours
@ChiLly___ Ай бұрын
@@PatOutdoors what part of the bike is having clearance issues on the mx650?
@PatOutdoors Ай бұрын
@@ChiLly___ where the top of the rear shock mounts on the frame. It’s located further back on the SX500.
@ajskustom 2 ай бұрын
Cool stuff i just want a bike a whole lot bigger i don't think it would carry my FA anywhere I can't wait till I get my bike upgraded this 25 mph is depressing and could cause me to get ran over. I think I'm about over it and want to just get my 1976 Harley Davidson FXE super glide running again and leave the electric stuff to the pro's.
@PatOutdoors 2 ай бұрын
I get over anything below 30 mph pretty quickly. I agree, it’s more dangerous to be slower than the flow of traffic. I’m pretty happy with my Wallke x3 max for daily commute (34 mph class 3 pedal bike)
@Zx7o. 2 ай бұрын
If you want something that's setup and upgraded out of the box look at the new Ventus One bike. +70mph and 50ah battery which is bigger then a razor can fit
@PatOutdoors 2 ай бұрын
That Ventus One is insane!
@statustube9789 2 ай бұрын
Sir send please me Qs 165 motor
@997colten 2 ай бұрын
LITTLE BIT PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEE
@hartfam3037 2 ай бұрын
3 mins in ....so are we not going to talk about the boosted e30?? 😳
@PatOutdoors 2 ай бұрын
Lmao that’s for my other channel 😂 Idk how many car people are watching an electric bike channel lol
@hartfam3037 2 ай бұрын
@@PatOutdoors lol I feel you. As a huge gearhead, I'll check out your other channel. 🤙
@PatOutdoors 2 ай бұрын
@@hartfam3037 I’m not very active on that one yet, but will be soon. Been too busy with work and this channel to work on my cars
@Roccos22inchrims 14 күн бұрын
Pat where did you get the black protaper bar pad?
@statustube9789 2 ай бұрын
Sir please send me Qs 165 motor
@PatOutdoors 2 ай бұрын
I don’t stock motors in my apartment, this isn’t a business
@Razorcrew_Cole 2 ай бұрын
I could never imagine buying anything from Austin lol
@PatOutdoors 2 ай бұрын
What does this mean?
@Razorcrew_Cole 2 ай бұрын
@@PatOutdoors I didn't mean that directed at you buddy I just am blown away you're not buying the FW-11! I hear so many issues with Austin's motors for my followers on TikTok is why I say it! Always love your builds and videos brotha! I will send you free stuff let me know
@michaellinton9992 2 ай бұрын
Is Alibaba a legit website
@PatOutdoors 2 ай бұрын
Just another market place like Amazon or eBay. Each seller has their individual ratings and feedback you can review
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