Oh cool! Cheers for that info :) Yes it’s unfortunate about the paywall.

Noticeably a decrease in overall set numbers. Great. What's being cut now?

@@nathandunnn Endeavour sets are 2 cars, as well as most Xplorers, so while there would be a decrease in overall set numbers each train has 50% more carriages.

And no sleepers

@@aydoyt Doesn't really matter, you still can't split em up so in that theory there's going to be less available trains or less services.

It’ll be interesting to see how it all goes! Thank you for watching :)

Unlucky for the LRV model i mean. CAF are actually quite good with their trains :)

Not exactly, there have been plenty of underbody fracturing on CAF trains over the years.

Most likely 160kmh with passengers

@@sydneytrainsvlogsI see

:)

Speed is usually a function of how steep, twisty and turny the tracks. the xpts theoretically could travel 200km/h but they dont

Without significant investment in the form of projects along the lines to Canberra, Brisbane and Melbourne, the travel times probably won't change much. However, a focus on night sleeper trains with many sleeper cars would be a great way to promote and initiate the transition to higher speed rail in the future.

Likewise :)

I doubt that.

if you expect 100% locally built Tangaras you're dreaming. Melbourne's trains are barely 25% local content but hey they are "Built in Melbourne for Melbourne" and all profits go to Alstom who own the assembly line

@@suave-rider A lot of the modern control systems etc that are current for rolling stock have never been manufactured in Australia.

@@danieleyre8913 correct

This route isn't the same as the Newcastle one, Newcastle station was closed permanently and relocated to Wickham as the name of Newcastle Interchange. They aren't the same station - this one now stops at Central, Strathfield, Epping, Hornsby etc. all the way to Hamilton followed by Newcastle Interchange. The former Newcastle line is now a light rail.

I suppose with the area between Wickham and Newcastle at the end of the former line, now covered by light rail, no longer used by trains, the time would be less between Central and Newcastle Interchange allowing them to include Epping as an extra stop.

@@RGC198 yup, whilst also forming a valuable interchange at epping with the Northwest Metro to Tallawong/Sydenham.

I catch the XPT every fortnight from Albury to Melbourne. I asked the crew about the sleeper car on the new trains and the crew said they won’t have them.

Most likely 160kmh in passenger service

@@sydneytrainsvlogs thanks Phil, just thinking with new trains, some of the regional tracks may require upgrading as well, but we wouldn't hold our breath on that.

I think the main thing that will need an upgrade will be the platforms :)

while theoretically they could be faster, it just isn’t possible with the conditions the regional tracks are in

True but they’ve had their time :)

They are mechanically reliable but the UK HST's are also at retirement stage too.

Yes the D sets May enter service in 2024 but another month from Maybe April...

everyone bitches about no sleepers but nobody books sleepers anyway. I guarantee you wouldn't.

They're the only tickets on the Sydney to Melbourne route that is consistently booked out months in advance. It's the only viable way to do that route by rail

Sure is :)

@@sydneytrainsvlogs Wull these replace the the xplorers on the hunter line?

That’d be cool!

Hitachi class 800s should have replaced these

@@8492946able The class 800/801s are high speed trains designed for intercity service in the UK. They aren't built for Australian conditions, especially our track.

It would be cool if that happened but the Siemens charger was built specifically for the U.S and Canadian market. It's basically a modified Siemens vectron since our rail system has different requirements.

I agree with the trains being built here but unfortunately this project was confirmed back in 2019. Hopefully next time they’ll learn! Example, Tangara replacement :)

@@sydneytrainsvlogs willing to bed the replacement for the Tangaras will be built overseas because it is cheaper, Either China, South Korea, or Japan

@@camboi6103 hopefully Japanese, their stuff’s somewhat decent

@@camboi6103 unfortunately the previous government has already decided that we’re no longer ordering anything from overseas, so hopefully by the time the Tangara replacement is needed, they would be built here in Australia

Japan make really good trains! However apparently the Tangara replacement will be built here in Australia so they say.

I agree :) Interesting how the heavy maintenance facility for these trains is in Dubbo. I guess they can do some work closer to Sydney too if need be

That it is! If all goes smoothly and if the new trains start to arrive in the first quarter of this year then they may enter service from late this year or very early next year.

I heard they wont be sleeper cares either which is a shame, separate fast rail will never happen, but if they get spent a little on straightening and smoothing out the existing intercity lines and adding some more third track sections to overtake freight if would defiantly be a lot faster and smoother ride.

They’ll replace the endeavour runs on the Hunter Line yes

@@sydneytrainsvlogsoh wow, might make the Hunter line look a bit more modern! As much as I love my local services, I can’t help but feel TfNSW has forgotten about our region.

Electric and diesel yes. Example, running a Brisbane service to Broadmeadow using the overhead then lowering the pantograph and using diesel from Broadmeadow to Brisbane.

it's basically an EMU with small diesel engine for off-catenary running

Uses a pantograph under over head wire. Retracts pantograph and activates the diesel engines when off-wire.

They should’ve just gone with diesel only, its been like that for 40 years, why does everything new have to be cross with electricity & internal combustion. If they break due to an electrical fault, we know what the problem will be.

​​​@@Thunderbirds404Why not steam then. Been like that for well over 40 years😂 Seriously though, the XPTs are themselves "a cross with electrically and internal combustion". No less subject to electrical faults over their "more than 40 years".

They’re much needed! As much as a lot of us love the XPT’s, i think they’re past their time

There should be :)

Can’t wait to see it in person :)

Isn't the civity designed for regional service... Not the long distances covered Sydney to Melbourne/Brisbane... I hope they at least have a proper buffet car!

Yes. And question, is this new train use diesel engine and electric pantograph? Just like British Rail Class 802 (bi-mode). @@sydneytrainsvlogs

Yes they will replace all 3. Hopefully there will be sleeper cars

@@sydneytrainsvlogs Taitset recently said in an RM transit video that until HSR is achieved between Sydney and Melbourne, he would like to see improvements to sleeper service. I agree, as its 11 hours long. Perfect for hopping on at Sydney, having dinner onboard, getting a long enough sleep and waking up having brekkie and a coffee as you arrive into Melbourne the following morning. Not only will it be cheap and encourage more intercity train travel but I think it will do business travellers well, as they won't have to get up early in the morning for a 6 o'clock flight to Melbourne for a meeting or vice versa. HSR would be nice but even just an entire dedicated sleeper train between Sydney and Melbourne and even up to Brisbane & also between Melbourne & Adelaide. I would definitely take it considering how crazy air fares are. And if we ever get HSR, this sleeper service could still complement it as a service. They do have the great southern and overland doing those routes but those trains are more for tourists, where as these would be more aimed at intercity regional travel as well as air travellers and in some cases Business travellers. As this would be an interstate system, I think a Federal owned rail company should be set up to run these sleeper trains (and later, HSR) with contracts to collaborate with the state owned railways in their respective states like supplying maitainence, rollingstock, staff etc. I also think there should be reserved carriages and some unreserved for people who show up without booking (those without booking will have to arrive very early to secure a spot but those with reservation can check in 10 minutes before departure). Hopefully one day we get proper HSR, but until then, go intercity sleeper train.

if not, just hope the Chairs are as Comfy as a Bed.

correct 2x2 and 1x2 seating

But much needed. The XPT’s are becoming unreliable and outdated

@@sydneytrainsvlogsOh yea the XPT are incredibly old if we do get more of these train it would be better right?

Lol the cracking was only with the Urbos 3’s. Their trains are actually pretty good :)

Yes, along with all of the others and the XPTs and Xplorers.

@@5fifty I'm excited to see them

@@nrlspar6563 I live on the South Coast too. Have to find out when the last endevour departs Bomaderry.

@@5fifty hope so

A lot of new trains are entering service this year :)

@@sydneytrainsvlogs what ! that is crazy mate

Yes :)

Ok thanks

International tender. Under the previous government (and i guess partially the current) we can’t do a thing in Australia.

Exactly! The previous Gov screwed us in so many ways. Looking forward to seeing these new trains :)

Why do you say government? I would believe it was TfNSW, they have a poor history for procurement

​@sydneytrainsvlogs I agree. In fact to me, the biggest screw up is the timetable of November 2017. It removes a lot of express services and removes a lot of aspects that are supposed to be a regular thing (such as stations between Parramatta and Lidcombe as well as Burwood all having Western Line services on a regular basis). I hate what the previous Government did by adding the unnecessary T2 Parramatta and removing lots of fast trains for Harris Park, Granville, Clyde, Auburn, Lidcombe and Burwood. I also hate how there are no trains on the Sector 2 T2 passing through Burwood on Platforms 5 and 6. It makes my trip from Cabramatta to Central slower and more packed. I hope they remove Burwood from limited stops T2 services and reinstate Burwood on the T1 Western line for faster trains to Central on the T1 Western and T9 Northern lines of Sector 3. Now the network is in one heck of a mess thanks to all the maintenance backlog. Glad the new Sydney Trains timetable will be introduced in the middle of this year along with the new metro line between Chatswood and Sydenham following a year of the Sydney Rail Repair Plan.

@@DAEMTAM, because TfNSW are Government employees, and they did what the government told them to. Ultimately the decisions made by TfNSW were put on them by the various Ministers of Transport of the day.

@@johnlang4198 That's not how government worked for the procurements I was involved with, Minister approved business case/funding but doesn't choose end product... That was the agency.

K Sets - Suburban OSCar T sets - New train

Hopefully there will be no more Waratah series 3 coming. I mean Waratahs are good trains overall especially for drivers except it is made by overseas factories. But i just want to see something a little bit different than that.🤔

@@ew713 Maybe a Tangara 2.0

However TfNSW doesn't see that as an issue. PTV actually see that's somewhat.

Vline Vlocities can go 160 and do in parts of Victoria, but the standard gauge Vlocities aren't allowed to do this on the Melbourne to Albury line. It's a terrible track

@@DaleDix how fast does the Vlocity go on the albury line?

@@DaleDix yea no wonder why there’s no passenger trains to the Sunraysia region anymore. That bit where I said PTV actually sees the issue, I was being sarcastic, they’re completely useless, they don’t even know how to give Mildura a proper efficient bus network.

Tho you have to look at the life of these trains, some spare parts are no longer available, and what you need to keep them running? By stripping another train for spares, leading to a bad publicity lmao if that happened

It would be a very bad idea, the current Regional trains are in such bad condition that all you can hear is creaking when travelling on them.

Tangara will be around for a while yet. Tangara 2.0 will be interesting if they build them

@@sydneytrainsvlogsi wonder what a Tangara 2.0 be like speaking of that? Interesting if it will be an all new generation of rolling stock or an evolution of a Millennium/Waratah??? Time will tell I guess, since they can’t base a brand new train off a 40 year old design.

Over 40

I like the look of them :)

@@sydneytrainsvlogs a minimal yet modern look :)

Exactly :)

Average service speed will be much slower due to ARTC's maintenance schedule (or lack thereof)

160kmh? That isn't slow. Also they dont even look 1988 version of d sets..

@@transportfanaussie they still look like d sets though

These>VLocity in every way.

But it needs to be Bi-Mode

The problem with that would be the lines. They would be fine for the long distance like Sydney to Brisbane but the smaller lines like the South Coast and Hunter wouldnt be able to have the long trains on them. Most of the stations couldnt be upgraded to handle the long trains due to the area that the stations are and the heritage listing. Not only that, I dont think it would be worth paying for that for the Kiama to Bomaderry.

@@TrainsForNSWVlogs they are

@@8492946able Also they don't have short platform compatability. And Hitachi is more exlensive