Sylvanas

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We should see what the other people think of Sylvanas’s judgement. What Shandris thinks. What Maiev thinks. What Greymane thinks. What Jaina thinks. What Anduin thinks. What Thrall thinks. What Bolvar thinks. What Baine thinks.

@Zucchini Tzatziki Just b/c we pay to play the game doesn't mean we get to dictate how the story goes. What would be the point of witnessing a story created by others then? We could just make up your own story .

Tyrande: "Also, eye of the Jailer activated again"

This cracked me up 😂

Sylvanas: Anything else, Tyrande?! Tyrande: And a summary kick to the jaw. Sylvanas: Wha- *punted into the Maw*

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@Zucchini Tzatziki That joke is just terrible.

It's worse than death, even someone who hates her should have a little bit of pity for her lmao

she now grinds torghast for an eternity .... its a fitting charge.

Also she's forced to do dailys lol

Awful sentence. Eternity of wandering the maw . Aint that bad

@@malanoremantavi3435 I pity her, and she deserves what’s coming to her.

Lol

Good for him

With some alliance tavern sounds playing~

this writing is so woke

I was expecting the Warcraft 3 Frozen Throne dialogue where she's like "fools, have you no sense of justice"

Lmao

@Zucchini Tzatziki Wanna be reported?

@@cameronmcewen9666 For making a joke?

@@joco8290 i hear that getting slapped is the popular thing nowadays

I get that reference, nice one 👍

@@shipsheep4413 i didn't. Care to share?

Captain Holt?

@@vahidmoosavian6313 A quote by Captain Raymond Holt from the series "Brooklyn Nine-Nine"

genn is just an old dog, full of fleas, smelling pee, not even worth to hate, dying will be the best thing he could do for azeroth.

Lol, that's one boring and annoying quest!

Without a mount

the harshest punishment of all, Daily quests.

@@tomeekun god no…

@Zucchini Tzatziki GET THE FUCK OUTTA HERE!!!

Arthas is not even anima now, maybe soulash or ephimera dust

There is no Arthas now

fraid not buddy

There is no Arthas in Ba-sing-se

@@Ryquard1 Until Blizzard decides to retcon again.

You are weird, man.

@@gilbertrewur7972 Granted, but out of all the weird shit I've said, why did this comment make you think that?

@@axechop maybe because you using Maiev i think. I like her since in Warcraft 3 but have i have not anymore interest after that except when she fought against Sira and the event when we need to kill a former huntress who become Undead Banshee since her spirit cannot rest (I forgot her name)

@@gilbertrewur7972 Naisha

@@th3ra83 Ah. Naisha. To think i forget about her. I'm sad when i got the info that she back to life as undead not because she got reanimated by some necromancer but because her spirit cannot rest in the tomb.

Pelagos is playing a practical joke on Sylvanas so that she has to continuously find more souls to send back up.

@@MolmorJS 😂😂😂

Adventurers going back to Azeroth: "Did we forget something?" "If so I'm sure it wasn't important."

I trust that casually those souls deserve the maw, the new arbiter would know, after all he can judge a soul in less then 0,01 seconds or something.

@@robfus he explicitely said that he would no longer send any soul to the Maw.

Ya. I was thinking. She just condemned that owl to the maw.

😂😂

What about Genn? Guess they forgot about the whole killing his Son.

@@TattleTails Killing a son is nothing compared to genocide.

@@Fat_Panda_Gamer Yeah and remember that Syl' arrow that killed Liam was for Genn haha

@@Fat_Panda_Gamer Gilneas literally got destroyed and uninhabitable because of the Forsaken invasion, its the same thing. Sylvanas killed more than just his son.

Genn He is still Guarding stormwind , he never made it to the shadowlands 😂

@@aicastillo23 What do you mean, he is there! Check 2:43

bro the game is still not over, chill the fuck out

@@trollerscammer651 Ok, but I was just saying that Greymane deserved the title of Sylvanas' adversary considering their history that has been going on for quite a while.

I'm pretty sure Blizzard forgot about Genn, too. Wait, what are worgen?

Following that logic, Greymane will want a whole hour of doing that.

Granted

@CitizenKahne1992 you know so little of the WoW lore, young one ...

Genn: Say no more fam. *Proceed to Mangle and Rips Sylvanas*

You forgot Genn. He'll let rip on her.

They made Tyrande go all that way with the night warrior ritual and the chase. This scene had to be focused on her, to give closure to all that trouble. It would dimnish her effort if others started giving their opinions.

@@an-cx1ho plus Anduin was also mind controleld buy the jailer at one point, stealing the key, so probably not best place for him to start demanding stuff.

Yeah but all those actions were caused by half of true Sylvanas which was blackmailed by the Jailer locking her in the Maw for eternity even though she didn’t deserve it. She was helping the Jailer to create a new reality as her freedom card

Vereesa's face just punched my guts out.

@@adyenlichtwachter6684 disgusting sister on my opinion

what sword? -Blizzard 2022

what sword?

If you did the rest of the quests, you would know her cartel says you can't trust her cause she organised the killing of the other expedition members once she found a valuable safespot to claim the maw's "treasures" for herself

There was a sword? Thought it was from another game

@@zenza2962 "you can't trust her" She did nothing to us the whole expansion and the expansion is pretty much at it's end, I think it's safe to bet we can trust her. Trash writing. Thank you Steve Danuser.

Same. Meanwhile Alleria still looks ready to strangle her.

@@jebusfishy Alleria has the audacity to look at her like that acting like Sylvanas couldn’t have killed her at any time during BfA.

@@rivh4246 If you’re talking about when she blew up the undercity, sylvanas didn’t even come close and that was the only time lmao

I felt like Vereesa here honestly. Sad to see her go :( but it was needed.

@@Teemo6544 Alleria only survived that because of Jaina. If Alleria encountered Sylvanas any other time throughout BFA or her empowered version in Shadowlands, Alleria would have been in the maw.

Im okay with the ending

And she wont be leaving. Some Souls are gone and can never be recovered so its a rhetorical punishment you toil forever trying to mend what you broke that can never be mended.

@@chromeshellking pretty sure she comes back, would not be to supriced if she discovers something realy bad in the maw and come back to warn everyone else, probably not in next expansion, but at one point it will happen.

@@Weffi76 what would that be? we've been there for an eternity, what could she find that noone else has not?

@@glarcier4398 could be a lot of things, heck maby the Jailer we killed aint the real one, we do not know what monsters there is in the Maw and from where they has come there, could be a lot of things there, rember that the jailer did warn us about someting far worse comming, I am not saying this is from the maw, but it could be connected somehow, also where is Nathanos.

Yeah! My fav so far was the one from the previous chapter with pelagos. They’ve really improved a lot

The art and music teams once again carry the expansion

@@LeystTV if only Pelagos mattered, or if the writing wasn't so bad that only Kyrian covenant players know who he is, otherwise just random ass always fail in everything character that you follow around Bastion during questing. I'll just tell how it is, Blizzard decided to make him the Arbiter only because he's trans or whatever just because of that cotroversy....

THE FACE ANIMATIONS!!!!!!!!!!

Like blizz is getting tired of them ragging on their animations.The criticisms were fair however,hopefully they can keep this going.

With more power and possibly, whiter

Tryande: "Did you save every soul you sent there?" Sylvanas: "I saved only the ones that did not fade into oblivion like Arthas." "I also found Nathanos." Tyrande: "How many was that." Sylvanas: "I lost count." How many did Sylvanas save from fading into oblivion? 10,000 out of 1,000,000,000. Tyrande looks at her owl, the owl remains silent.

Don't worry, the loathsome dunguser will make sure she manage to save at least trillions of souls and befriend Tyrande's birb to make sure that Tyrande will go soft and buddy-buddy with her.

@@cainabel6356 you summed it up super accurately.

@@cainabel6356 She found Nathanos, then locked him up in Torghast to be tormented.

It hurts when they turn their back on sylvanas since he became undead.

We all know that’s not her choice, king Arthas did this to her since the Undead scourge.

It is what it is hahahahahaha

She is a nigh Elf , she used shadowmeld .

I thought the same, like you'd think she'd stick out like a sore thumb but no.

True

Nah, ingame cutscenes of this quality are far better than pre rendered cutscenes. More immersive while playing plus no obvious photoshop effects. Hope to see more of these and fewer pre renders. But i can understand that people who dont actually play the game might prefer pre renders, less of a diffrence in a youtube video.

so well made that sylvanas' model didnt even go into frame correctly at 0:33

@@Maniaman213 agreed, but it would be nice to see oribos and everything in an actual cinematic. seeing as we have 1 for the entire expansion....

@@hhectell What are you trying to say? This is neither the first cinematic set in Oribous nor the first ingame cinematic in Shadowlands.

Its gotten a lot better 😄

The only cutscenes that matter are the Sylvanas ones apparently lol

Garrosh was made by one single dude. They didn’t have any care for him. Just full blown sylvanus service by danuser & co

0:33 she literally teleports and pops up on the screen right after the frame changes, these cutscenes are beyond dogshit

The Garrosh One was made by a single person tho. Sadly! Would have love to see more of my boy. The Cutscene when we first escaped the Maw with Anduin saving us was pretty good aswell, same goes for the Pelagos/Kleia one but this one tops everything so far! Ready for more!

I'm baffled that Thrall, Anduin, Jaina and especially Genn don't have a say in all of this

And she gets NO redemption.

@@cameronmcewen9666 wait until 14.0, this is only the start.

@@alephniguroth7105 There’s a 14.0?

She is still a badass villain tho

and now all are gone and with them so many fans that have stuck by this world.

@@Sam-im5tc only one is gone for good. If the other two come back I hope it can be done right

Man, all the crap hands full of crap they kept handing Sylvanas over and over again... Just constantly portraying her as evil for... no real reason, then coming up with fake reasons, and finally just going full ham cartoon villain. Seriously, they keep plodding this MMO along, and eventually they are going to "Elect" Tyrande as a new villain in one of these expansions. After of course they have the Light go full on Crusade/Inquisition against everyone not of the Light or using the Light. Basically they have already kept this MMO going too long, heck the War between the forces of the Horde and the Alliance was originally going to be between Varian and Hellscream. Then they delayed it with other expansions until the two were gone, and then decided to replace the two with Sylvanas and Anduin. With the dialogue and story beats still carrying traces of the previous main actors...

And the fact that what she gets is what she tried so hard to avoid and joined the Jailer for is just so good.

Meh she will be back as soon as the writers want her to be soo, all we know she could be back for 11.0 or so and say "time moves different" but hey at least she is away for a while

I was saving souls every week in the maw first 5 per week then 10 then 20 i was brutally punished for no reason f*** Blizz

@@towa417 I'm sure she will be back for 10.0 because blizzard knows we all scream like banshees when sylvanas is not on screen :V

I’m sure she can find a way to save a ton of souls fast so they can put her back into the story. She’s a critical character in lore, like without her angsty self around what the fuck do all the other characters do? I guess we have the promise of the void lords turning everyone to the void to give us someone to give a shit about.

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Pretty much 🙈

Could've been worse. Could've been 10,000 years

Who said it would be 1,000 years? Literally no one.

Considering that we are around could anyone just go down there and pick her back again.

Well I don't think she would run really far :D

I was thinking the same thing .....

Lmao

i would have laugh in the heat of the moment and just pick up Tyrande... i'm sure people would looked at me weirdly if i didn't go down there to pick her up.....

Im okay with the ending as well

But to think there is no dialogue between the sisters i guess they're pretty much hate her even her broken soul has back to her.

Alleria is still surely mad at her,and you can see it from her expression,but Vereesa,from what I've read,has always been worried for Sylvanas,and here,she's sad as well

imo this sylvanas full of elegance and dignity is worthy to be followed... i´m sure we will see her again when dire times call her back to our side.

I'm just sad that Alleria have no pity in her eyes. When she returned in Legion, in the bd of the three sisters, I understand she thought her sister is dead, but now ? Now Sylvanas had her entirely soul, so why Alleria is so cruel lmao. It'd beat my heart, I love Syl' so much

She really does haha 😄

Perhaps. But the recovery of the souls of Teldrassil from the Maw are more important than petty vengeance. Character development for Tyrande.

so much she damns her owl to the same fate. who followed her for 10 thousand years

@@rickywyness5230 More like convenient plot armor

Everyone does she literally screwed over everyone the alliance the horde the Shadowlands you can’t blame them

You are Welcome! Yeah it sucks with the crashes :/

as did mine

big same. Trying change to DirectX11 to see if that helps. So far it's not great.

@@LeystTV my game did the same thing, crashed during the cutscene. Thank you very much for sharing it

Same here. I was actually waiting for someone to upload on KZfaq. Thanks 😀

They lipsync is getting so good

Bruh it looks horrible and over the top. Game of thrones season 8 has better writing and cinematics than this

@@guffeluffe5987 it doesn't look horrible for Moty fokol, so whats your point? no reason to hate everything ~

@@noregrveidr8178 cause its a thing to hate WoW now , people are dick riding asmongold. I actually miss old asmongold, now asmongold thinks his opinion is always right lol slowly diving into that fame mind.

@@noregrveidr8178 thanks love.

Who said it’s for all eternity? Literally no one.

@@cameronmcewen9666 Technically it could be. It's literally a sub-realm of the afterlife. When you cross the veil from life to death, time sort of stops. 2 minutes can feel like a lifetime. No telling how much time has canonically passed in Azeroth and such since we've been in the Shadowlands, but its guaranteed to be super different in 10.0

The in game cutscenes have improved sooooo much

Cheers! WoW's cutscenes quality improved to year 2012 right now!

The story may have been awful beyond comprehension, but at least the ending is satisfying.

I remember where in WOTLK being giving a cutscene was a rare treat for major events.

They just need to put our characters in these scenes

I hope I never see her again. She should have been the one turned into 30 anima that we would forget about.

@@norielgames4765 this , they done arthas so fucking dirty its painfull

@@athomicritics danuser doesn't want to make the game people will feel is the best, he wants to make his favourite game and do only things that he likes. He simps for Sylvanas, so he does everything in his power to make her powerful, he doesn't like or even hates Arthas? he turns him into 30 anima. To me the worst part is how he's been foreshadowing the return of Arthas, with hints of his return even in chains of domination and strings of destiny. When the end of eternity came, we got cinematics with Arthas, and there was Uther, Jaina, Sylvanas, magic explaining the origin of the Lich King, it was like rolling down the red carpet for the return of the big antihero that we all knew could have been redeemed if he wasn't left alone for Mal'Ganis to play with him. Huge amounts of foreshadowing in Zereth Mortis to the point I was expecting Arthas to be in the sword having learned how to resist domination magic and teaching it to Anduin so he can escape. And what do we get? A poof of smoke without a face or a voice, and the mary satan that is Sylvanas gets a full monologue that is only just danuser speaking to the audience about how we will never ever see arthas again cause there's not even a soul left of him. Meanwhile the master Uther and Arthas' love of his life Jaina don't say a word as the last whisper of him fades into non existence. This is the biggest pile of crap I've ever seen and played. I will probably at some point write an actual fanfic detailing what Shadowlands should have been, in which the Jailer is NOT evil and the titans return, he allies himself with the titans, and succeeds in his plan. Oh and in my fanfic there is an actual plan: they rearrange the cosmos and rewrite the laws of physics, logic and the universe to make it so that if you die for anything other than old age or illness, aka, if you're somehow killed by accident or on purpose, your soul can choose to either wander the world in search of your body and then return to life, or go to some afterlife cause you're sick of your neighbor Jimmy. Also you can visit the afterlives same way you visit other worlds. No more undeath except via major magical proess. Oh and Arthas returns in the form of a tortured soul in the maw which you rescue and he then swears he's not evil anymore, and that his soul was separated from that of Ner'Zhul's, and decides to give penance by telling you all he knows about the maw, and saving the souls that where unjustly put there using what he learned of domination magic in the years being the lich king, instantly sending them back to oribos. or whatever. Oh and also, Sylvanas is a crazy bitch who cannot be trusted and is addicted to betraying people so she also betrays the jailer trying to take his power and gets turned into 1 anima that is expended by the jailer to power a toy in the shape of a fool clapping some cymbals for all of eternity. Real Jailer doesn't f*ck around.

@@norielgames4765 what are you waiting for, write it now

@@simionmatei9715 might do it now that I'm unemployed lol

The heck is he even supposed to do other than suffer nigh eternally as well? Watch and fail to report on perceived laziness? Try to peck her into obedience without getting shot for it? Kind of pointless other than as a reminding gesture...

🙈

Yes 😂😂

Are there actually daily quests saving souls in the expansion? Geeze, that's retarded.

Agreed

Clearly they wanted to have her punished, but also be able to bring her back whenever they need her

Tyrande's VA delivery is straight up evil, which was a god awful choice.

There is no pity for those that deserves punishment.

alleria just has a pure look of hate... but veressa looked so sad :(

Ohh nice one

No, it was for Turalyon that Yll'ginnoth said that.

Thats the thing tho, we dont know for sure

Bliz doesnt even know for sure

@@diegochatard-caraballo5848 welll Turalion has not claimed the throne, is more or less just in charge until Anduin comes back, but Pelagos literaly took the Arbiter role.

They should not have saved her for future use Jesus Christ people haven’t we had enough sylvanas?

The bird is the last soul unjustly occupying soul in the maw once she finishes, just to really "twist the knife" by having to send on her one constant companion after god knows how long growing attached. After the bird is send on also, just her remains as the lone prisoner who didn't exactly get any permission to return.

Yeah 1 was working for the greater good (in her mind). Failed and is willing to pay the price for it. The other is someone who became so full of himself no one could convince him otherwise. Garrosh's ending was funny but i hated that he had become just a cartoonish ego monster by the end.

DEATH TO THRALL AND BAINE!

@@coreym483 I mean garrosh did nothing wrong technically

@@Namiiii44 he did 80% of everything wrong.

Hahahahaha 😄😄 will have the quest tomorrow brother!

:(

Captain Delaryn Summermoon wasn't dead yet during the Burning of Teldrassil. She died from her injuries afterwards. She talks about how Elune abandoned her people after she was brought back as a Dark Ranger. Elune didn't direct the burning of Teldrassil but she did nothing to stop it. She turned her favorite friend Ysera into a constellation after her death. Putting out a tree fire wouldn't be that hard. In the cutscene you are talking about she admits she did nothing to save her favorite children because she had heard the cries of her sister. She probably figured the NE would accept that fate had they gone to Ardenwald. She used the tragedy that was unfolding for the greater good.

Exactly what I am still thinking

The cutscene was great when you compare it to the Old ones

the art department has never been the issue, as a matter of fact they carried the last 2 expansions.

I stand by everything you said here except for the very last part. The only expansion since WOTLK that I thought was just as good, if not even better was Legion, but yes other than that the art animation team are the ones really carrying the game.

Only redeeming quality. Everything else especially lore and story is pathetic. All flash and no substance

This has nothing to do with how great the game looks. This has everything to do with the corrupted higher ups, this goes beyond the lore, beyond the artistic look. This is dealing with sexual harassment, dudes drinking woman’s breast milk; while not giving these women maternity leave, who by the way are some of the artist for the game. But hey the graphics look great right???

She was likable before BFA, and then BFA butchered her character and made her an idiot in SL

Oh, the simp that was writing her really wanted. But there was a huge backslash of fans being sick of Sylvannas being awesome All the time.

Prior to BfA? Like when she also genocided the entirety of Gilneas? Or more like when she turned on her Horde "allies" and killed anyone and everyone indiscrimantely at Angrathar? This b*tch could never have been trusted. I knew it since she killed her horde comrades back in WotLK.

@@patrik3482 danuser.....how I trully despise this being.

So she would be the sole occupier/master of the domain? Effectively being the new jailer with nobody to jail?

@@stanleyholmes1266 nope. After all Soul she brought to Maw is rescued it is her turn to be judged by the Arbiter.

Wow, that is a really low bar you have set.

They’ve gotten a lot better

It was great 😄

The animations for the cutscenes have gotten so much better

Or with Tyrande's words: she's just playing a game again, as always, 2 steps before everybody.

🤮 Please, don't reduce Lady Sylvanas to a simpering love struck fool. That whole romance with Nathanos was gross, Sylvanas never needed any love interest to be interesting or motivated.

@@missskitty90 you are sad she is not simping for you

@@missskitty90 Nathanos was the best and the most loyal man of Sylvanas and she trusted him 100% like no one, and she doesn't know of his loss 'cuz of the Jailer. Plus Tyrande said Sylvanas must save every souls casted into the Maw because of her, so it's logical saving the souls inculdes Nathanos. And i mever meant to their romance.... the only mentioning it is you.

You are Welcome!

I mean, that makes little sense my dude. If you haven't returned the past two expansions where Sylvanas was one of the focal point of the story, nothing they would have done with her would have made you return.

Then you shouldn’t be commenting. You should be getting a job, a family, a life. But because you’re here bitching over the absence of a fictional character, it means you won’t have any of it.

Elune did NOT play a part in the burning, all she did was send souls to her sister after the opportunity came.

Since Elune didn't know that the arbiter had broken, does that mean Elune always had the ability to skip the arbiter? Interesting.

@@dstyer6128 For Night Elves yes. if a measly loa like bwonsamdi can intercept trolls, why would you think Elune can't do the same?

And no, Elune had no part in burning of Teldrassil. She is not a godess who can influance something on this large scale. She works through players and setting things in motion. She can create, and she did create Night Elves, her words: My children just as she created Wildkin who knows how long before Night Elves. But she never interact with Azeroth on such a direct scale. If she could, don't you think she would use her powers in WOTA to stop Legion? All she did there is throw a protective shield around Tyrande which no one and nothing, inclouding Azshara and Lady Vashj could penetrate. She can act through her Avatar Night Warrior, but for that she needs a vessel like Tyrande....

You are welcome

Thank you!

"yeah, ya know... the banshee that burned the tree and sent you here. shes charged with getting you out."

What did Tyrande do compared to the genocide Sylvanas did though?

Unless you're calling accepting night warrior powers a sin what exactly did tyrande do Illidan did nothing wrong

Weell, Tyrande has commit/ordered mass genocide before; looong time ago to the highborne… but I suppose her recent "sins“ have been being completely driven and blinded by, arguably justified, rage and resentment, as well as spite and revenge; blinded to the extent that she too has killed and ordered the deaths of innocent people. She doesn‘t practice all that she preaches, and she, too, needs to atone for some things.. though, how Blizz has ruined her character along with so many other favourites of mine always makes me a bit sad.. :/ but I blame it on execs that don‘t play the game and only care about cutting corners for profit and the storytelling in game suffers. Idk.. it‘s a whole mess for Blizz imo 😭

What sins?

What sins Tyrande did? Name them or shut your mouth