Why I didn't bother with creed 3 even though I loved one and two

Creed I and Creed II are Rocky films...... without the Rocky character, it would gut the entire script. The films were ONLY interesting due to the continuation of the Rocky character.

thats on you bro. the creed series holds its own weight and has a story of it's own worth respecting

@@kilz5752 Remove every scene with Rocky in it... use a video editing software. Then watch that version and only ever watch that version.

@@chandie5298 not doing all that for your satisfaction lmao

But Mickey never took in a teen Balboa. That would be rewriting the Rocky story. No prequel. He was a fighter that was also the muscle for a loan shark.

@@n34z3r Yeah! You are correct Neil "Taking in" is the wrong choice of words. It suggests Balboa lived with Mickey from a young age. No what i really meant was we see events in Mickeys life & career as a Boxer then becoming Coach & eventually leading to Rocky's attendance at Mickey's Gym...the rest as they say is history.

Great idea! I’m dead serious.

Absofuckinglutely it would be great.....but only ending his career early because of his possible history of heart condition. I would say when he was younger he probably was an antagonist and a deadly fighter .Very, Very emotional and it affected his health.

I'd Like To See 🙈 It ❗

I thought that.

Thanks for clearing that up, very misleading.

Not good

Exactly! If nothing else, Henry helped Stallone at the beginning of his career. Henry is NOT Irwin. Irresponsible.

I think Stallone worked for minimum wage on the original movie 🍿🎥

I would so be down for a Drago post-Rocky IV dark drama that explores him losing everything.

He created Drago, but not about Drago's son. After that you might see Creed's daughter might up next.

Although I agree that you have a point, I despise Irwin Winkler's control over any part of Rocky legal or not. I have no intention of watching anything that Sly has not put his stamp on, when you consider that this is all Stallone"s creation. This is not intended to be critical, just another opinion.

ONLY if Sly was involved in it, otherwise count me out!

​@@robertanderson7333I agree with you 100 per cent

Yea you’re right, the first 4 films make a fantastic trilogy 😂

@@paulquantumblues3599 There not, one is called Rocky, and the other Rocky 2 lol

The trilogy Rocky 1-4…. I don’t think you understand how the word trilogy works.

Quadrilogy 😆

you mean the original quadrilogy if you talking bout 1-4, trilogy is 1-3

Inspirational indeed !, among my favorite scenes, was the "Winners" speach that he gave to his son. .

That's the only one I've yet to watch...... Your comment definitely is gonna leave me making some time for a cinematic leisure to check out that film! Cheers mate

@@reynaldogarcia643 Let us know when you do. I think it's the only one that matched the heart of the original and the second best in the series. It was very inspirational and a perfect way to close out the franchise. It brought the Rocky saga full circle the right way which is what Part V tried to do but failed.

nah its the worst one

@@freebee8221 If you are talking about Rocky Balboa, you certainly have the right to your opinion, but so do the people who wrote those tons of positive posts on this forum who would enthusiatically disagree with you.

Almost right, the producers said they didn`t want an icon being killed off. Stallone really did want to go through with him dying in a hospital after his street fight with Tommy Gun (Tommy Morrison). Eventually, he was talked out of it.

I think it was at the end of Rocky V.

@@Dave_Langer "Rocky V" isn't considered Canon. In fact, "Rocky Balboa" was made to give a proper ending to the series, as Sly now disowns part V and pretends it never happened.

@@dhenderson1810 Doesn't matter what it's considered, the person is right. Stallone had Rocky dying in Rocky V but it was later changed. It was not ever part of Rocky Balboa.

@@e2go Stallone came back and did Rocky Balboa because he realized that doing a "Rocky" film without a boxing match in it, like "Rocky V" did, was a dumb idea.

I really wanted creed 3 to suck but it didn’t, i hope they have him back in creed 4

👍👍

I like rambo. The 1st 2 rambos hit my emotional buttons. Plus after the 3rd rambo putin himself said he was afraid of green berets. The 1st 2 were amazing, and the 3rd one was a really good action flick/propaganda piece. My point being rambo will always be the thing that made Sylvester Stallone popular to me.

You hazard a guess!!!

Tetralogy.

All he has to do is change the name and the title and he can continue with the rocky series to get back at Winkler and Hollywood just changed the name but make it like Rocky that's all you got to do is change the title and continue portraying the character I would love that LOL

Italian brawler Rocco Stallone but continually as Rocky Balboa

I agree, great thought, unfortunately that makes too much sense for the W's to even comprehend, because limits their control and need for greed. I do commend you being a person who is interested in offering solutions and tries to make progress for those involved.

@@robertanderson7333 Like you said, it’s just makes sense… Plus, I’m my opinion, I think it’s a financial win-win for all involved… But, it’s too much like right, so, it most likely will never happen…

A yo come on Mick

Sly sold his rights to the movie. He is entitled to nothing from Winkler.

@@mikejones-wy5hv Notice that I said “should”… Did you catch that…? Smh

To be fair. There's a lot of scripts that never see the light of day. So without the money (ie.producers) there wouldn't have been a Rocky either. I love rocky and sly but he just made a bad deal. It happens everyday especially when you're an unknown and begging for money to get your movie made.

Exactly. They assumed a lot of risk in doing so. Stallone would have just went back to what he was before had it flopped, a struggling actor. They stood to lose a lot of money and prestigious in the industry. Regardless of what transpired afterwards, he owes them that. They took a chance and without that, the movie may have never seen the light of day or at least, the way Stallone envisioned it.

Correct, as it came a year before Star Wars. Unless you count the James Bond franchise. That would be the only one that would be longer I think.

​@@1981lashlarue along with the Halloween franchise which has made at least one movie in every decade since the 70s.

YES, YES and YES, i concur, as I am sure many others do as well. To hell with Count Winkler !!!

Winkler may have done some things wrong along the way, or at least in Sly's mind he did. Maybe he did. I don't know. Even if that is the case, he can and should be grateful for Winkler because without him willing to take the chance, it might never have been made. At least, it wouldn't have been made as Stallone envisioned it or we may have seen another actor in the role. Winkler took out a mortgage on his house and assumed a lot of risk. If the movie flopped, Stallone would have just went back to being a struggling actor. No worse off than he was before. Winkler stood to lose a lot of money and possibly esteem in the business. Regardless of how their relationship turned out in subsequent years, Stallone does have a lot to be grateful for with Winkler.

who does Rocky even fight and Why 🤷‍♂👀 premiss of the first 6 movies xD

i thought the same thing 🤣😂🤣😂🤣

Oh damn, so Henry Winkler (AKA "Fonzie" from Happy Days) is the one that Sly doesn't like, and is the one making the Creed movies?

No. Rick James

Henry Winkler and Sly are great friends. Henry helped Sly get his original Rocky script back after Sly sold it. Look into it.

True. However, he wrote Rocky from scratch taking inspiration from real life events. He was the co-write of the First Blood screenplay which was based on a book.

"Rocky Balboa" has been the only sequel that matched the heart of the original. Part II came the closest. "Rocky Balboa" is the second best in the franchise and the perfect way to end it.

​@@1981lashlarue bookends u r so correct. Perfect ending to it all.

Saw Rocky Balboa in movie theater movie was 4 stars made money n perfect ending. Saw 2 thru 5 same way I'm 52 now missed 1 Saw on TV best franchise ever

Hell yes!!! Rocky playing a mick type role

Hell yes!

That's why creed Exists

He literally got Sly his script back after he originally sold the script. He used his power as the ‘Fonz’ to help Sly.

Why not? Your mother came round mine last night for one last go and she left in great spirits

It ain't over till it's over

Its messed up, that a studio or producer can take your IP and run with it creatively with you. That original contract, standard as it was, had to be terrible.

That’s what happens when you allow a studio to produce your film.