LSO Masterclass - Timpani

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YouTube Symphony Orchestra 2011

YouTube Symphony Orchestra 2011

13 жыл бұрын

Nigel Thomas from the London Symphony Orchestra gives a timpani master class for the KZfaq Symphony Orchestra 2011 lso.co.uk/players

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@GoOKuSj33
@GoOKuSj33 7 жыл бұрын
Very important: Don't rush, keep it steady, again don't rush, ah and also: DON'T RUSH!
@SMmarcus100
@SMmarcus100 6 жыл бұрын
I think you forgot to mention..."don't rush!"
@wilhelmpitz1
@wilhelmpitz1 6 жыл бұрын
Mr. T. you are of the main reasons I go to hear the LSO concerts in the Barbican. Your playing is spell-binding, and I cannot take my eyes off you when you play. How crazy for a seriously old person such as me not to have realized it is the timpani that sets the rhythm for the orchestra to follow... of course you do! The subtlety of your playing from deftness to powerful expression is truly brilliant. You were made to take a single bow recently at the end of the concert, and the audience went crazy for you. Just as it should be. Bravo.
@nicholausbisma
@nicholausbisma 11 жыл бұрын
I am learning about the musical instruments used in the orchestra. Thank you very much!
@shawnellemartineaux6212
@shawnellemartineaux6212 3 жыл бұрын
I love this instrument on so many levels. 😍
@halloausdusseldorf
@halloausdusseldorf 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your wonderful presentation and tips!
@jonhillery7736
@jonhillery7736 9 жыл бұрын
"You'll look like a chump"
@BeauFerchaud
@BeauFerchaud 11 жыл бұрын
I played Timpani in 8th grade. I love the way they sound and how you can put them in a key with your foot! I wanted to go all "John Bonham" on them.
@StephenFiorentini
@StephenFiorentini 13 жыл бұрын
A man of true technique
@agnieszkaglonek2531
@agnieszkaglonek2531 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you. My children really liked it.
@MissGrannieHannie
@MissGrannieHannie 11 жыл бұрын
Thomas: "I know it sounds pretty messy without the orchestra, but..." Mere mortals everywhere: ._.;
@uiet1123
@uiet1123 12 жыл бұрын
The enigma piece sounded so cool.
@retrogaming7654
@retrogaming7654 12 жыл бұрын
It was great, very instructive, thank you.
@PhantomDrums917
@PhantomDrums917 11 жыл бұрын
Excellent technique!
@DaneBryantFrazier
@DaneBryantFrazier 10 жыл бұрын
I don't play either and I'm watching this, lol. I've actually watched about all of this stuff with these different instruments, because they are all awesome and done by a great orchestra.
@lucasrodriguez2176
@lucasrodriguez2176 5 жыл бұрын
Increíble masterclass
@34672rr
@34672rr 8 жыл бұрын
I love how the renaissance heads sound like a metal string. I have a few drums with them and they all have that mettalic boing to them.
@milestucker
@milestucker 9 жыл бұрын
The overtones on his D for Beethoven 9 are killing my soul.
@34672rr
@34672rr 8 жыл бұрын
That's because you are not hearing them with the orchestra. Renaissance heads have this very stringy metallic overtone that sounds kinda harsh when alone, but blends in and cuts at the same time with other instruments. I use them for many different drums, and they are the best I have ever heard. Calf theoretically sounds best but only when in tune, and that's rarely. It's almost impossible to clear calf heads for any period of time.
@cuentavueltas123
@cuentavueltas123 7 жыл бұрын
Wonderfulll!!!
@mechanichalpixels
@mechanichalpixels 10 жыл бұрын
I'm not even a classical musician, and yet I'm inspired.
@csarito
@csarito 12 жыл бұрын
yeah, great band, great album and that beautiful song to wrap it up, i fucking love groundation and those irregular measures
@mikeneug3769
@mikeneug3769 11 жыл бұрын
"Looks easy!" ~tries to play~ "The fuck is this black magic?!?"
@tympanzi
@tympanzi 11 жыл бұрын
I used to feel the same way. Nearly 40 years ago I was originally taught to play standing. When playing using a French grip style, standing is not at all awkward. For Beethoven or similar parts that don't require rapid tuning, standing is fine and has some long tradition to back it up. For a modern player, playing modern parts, this is no longer practical. After all, early tympani did not have pedals, so keeping both feet available was not a consideration. Modern music requires of sitting.
@detectivehome3318
@detectivehome3318 4 жыл бұрын
Ling Ling 40 years
@emanuel_soundtrack
@emanuel_soundtrack 4 жыл бұрын
hearing the timpany my safari creashed unexpectedly
@MrPianoSynthesia
@MrPianoSynthesia 11 жыл бұрын
His shirt is awesome :p
@theslow-down
@theslow-down 11 жыл бұрын
i have to agree with this. I have played timpani on a grade 6 piece. It was Parkour by Samuel Hazo. It is very hard when you are playing 16th notes and have a random 16th rest every few beats. My biggest problem is grip and rolls because you cant bounce the mallets.
@MichaelMyers6789
@MichaelMyers6789 6 жыл бұрын
Man so crispy
@Dracodeumonis
@Dracodeumonis 12 жыл бұрын
Classical Drum Solo!!!
@lflarry1
@lflarry1 13 жыл бұрын
@UpcomingJedi You're kidding of course. Timps are quite challenging to play well
@matthewd2528
@matthewd2528 8 жыл бұрын
good job
@uhoh38125
@uhoh38125 13 жыл бұрын
HI, I want to find a big drum that will make a low end booming rumble for a percussion in my Church (very contemporary)... not the drummer. Is a tipani my best choice or should I use a surdo or something. If i tune this down low will it work? Thanks anyone who can help,it is very appreciated.... I love your work!
@musicinmotion11
@musicinmotion11 7 жыл бұрын
Super. Such clarity and accuracy. Only minute quibble: Piu Allegro is subtitled as Pure Allegro (3 times!) :)
@SC0RP10N54281
@SC0RP10N54281 10 жыл бұрын
I personally find it easier to tune drums during pieces when im sat down and playing, it doesn't affect musicality
@heymynameiscleeff
@heymynameiscleeff 10 жыл бұрын
awsome'
@AttitudeCastle
@AttitudeCastle 11 жыл бұрын
In my experience the Timpani is much more about the details and precision. Not the most technically demanding instrument in the orchestra but it can really make or break some sections. A talented and experienced Timapnisit will benefit those around them is what I've always found!
@Rickeeey1
@Rickeeey1 11 жыл бұрын
Because it's interesting to find out about other instruments, especially if you're considering orchestrating or composing. Besides as a trombonist you should know how the rest of the players in an orchestra play so you can play with them better.
@DevynPope
@DevynPope 13 жыл бұрын
@uhoh38125 Use a concert bass drum. Timpani in the low end just sound wobbly.
@NocturnalReality
@NocturnalReality 13 жыл бұрын
@kryptonx13 Same here except for my school I'm currently play Timpani for our indoor Percussion program as well as Marching band, Good Luck!
@dustylee
@dustylee 13 жыл бұрын
any chances you can post a video about pedaling(pedal gliss) and maybe double pedaling. i am unfortunate to only be able to play on three timpani (highest pitch timpani was stolen) at my school so i have to compensate by pedaling but i dont think i have the right technique. also the pedal doesnt stick, so i have to keep my foot on the pedals to keep them from tightening. someone mentioned sitting on stools for timpani. i only sit down when i double pedal but most ly when i play i stand
@monster3386
@monster3386 11 жыл бұрын
it gets harder once you in high school
@Cyberbob182
@Cyberbob182 13 жыл бұрын
@teddyguy83 So the emotion goal of the timpanist isn't to create emotion himself, but to transmit it in union with the other instruments am I right ?
@bassbonemexie
@bassbonemexie 11 жыл бұрын
useful to know if you are interested in performing or teaching ( another trombone player here )
@PlanetNinetyTwo
@PlanetNinetyTwo 11 жыл бұрын
Isn't amazing what a masterful player can do with two or three tones ?
@ihateuutube
@ihateuutube 11 жыл бұрын
i heard timpani and oboe are usually the highest paid positions. is this true?
@paratimp
@paratimp 5 ай бұрын
What should be the difference between the first beat of bars 544 and 545?
@PercPhreak
@PercPhreak 11 жыл бұрын
it's like chess, a minute to learn, a life time to master. Hochrainer etudes would destroy you
@francescolupo6171
@francescolupo6171 7 жыл бұрын
How can he get that roll speed? Does he use fingers? That's strange!
@Michael-Oh
@Michael-Oh 7 жыл бұрын
Why is it strange?
@JonBecker81
@JonBecker81 5 жыл бұрын
I’m not a fan of his roll speed.
@klmsdrummer
@klmsdrummer 11 жыл бұрын
This is my goal.
@00ChaosDragon00
@00ChaosDragon00 13 жыл бұрын
@Toshfunk but this is not drumset now is it?
@AnthonyMariano2112
@AnthonyMariano2112 12 жыл бұрын
@soullessSiIence Why would you be sad? Timp kicks ass!
@vicentetellogalarza6804
@vicentetellogalarza6804 9 жыл бұрын
what timpani is it, please.?
@5758Wanderer
@5758Wanderer 11 жыл бұрын
Viene voglia di suonare i timpani...
@shakuras24
@shakuras24 11 жыл бұрын
After Reading all the comments here...¿Percussion section still Underrated? Time to grow up people.
@thecelloman1300
@thecelloman1300 13 жыл бұрын
"Don't rush."
@lakerspzy
@lakerspzy 13 жыл бұрын
pardon me, is the D a lil bit on the flat side?
@murphaucamp
@murphaucamp 11 жыл бұрын
nice tuning bro
@Cyberbob182
@Cyberbob182 13 жыл бұрын
I really don't know the timpani technics, but I know a little bit about drums. As a beginner drummer, I don't find those examples really hard, but I know I'm wrong, he knows what he is talking about. But why is it so hard ?
@shawnellemartineaux6212
@shawnellemartineaux6212 3 жыл бұрын
Because with drums, you don't really sight read much. Timpani are percussion, but they're tuned percussion. So, it's kind of like playing a bass as a percussion. And, the rest of the orchestra depends on the percussionist to keep time, all while considering that it is a classical instrument and classical music tends to be heavily emotive. Imagine playing something written in counterpoint and if you strike the wrong drum, the whole chord gets screwed up. 😂 It is that deep.
@ryanm.russellsmusicrecordi63
@ryanm.russellsmusicrecordi63 4 жыл бұрын
Are you a percussionist ?
@bsennello
@bsennello 13 жыл бұрын
If I had a set of timpani, I'd just spend all day playing Also Sprach Zarathustra. :)
@shawnellemartineaux6212
@shawnellemartineaux6212 3 жыл бұрын
Same.
@Vesivian
@Vesivian 12 жыл бұрын
u jus hit dah drum laaa
@tomassdaleyy
@tomassdaleyy 11 жыл бұрын
Yes I do, and look at all the professional players. Do they stand up?
@Roligyilok
@Roligyilok 13 жыл бұрын
ok but what kind of sound is this?
@MrPianoSynthesia
@MrPianoSynthesia 12 жыл бұрын
lol i like his shirt
@gabrielleholly9148
@gabrielleholly9148 11 жыл бұрын
Viewed this video as research for a scene in Book 3 of my paranormal erotic romance series. Now I think I've fallen for Nigel.
@Hx402rRS
@Hx402rRS 10 жыл бұрын
Release the khrp
@contr4dixion
@contr4dixion 12 жыл бұрын
@aaronrocs Warcraft 3 soundtrack music for a little tribal/racial twist?
@StephenFiorentini
@StephenFiorentini 13 жыл бұрын
you need a lot of hand control to handle timpani drums
@MrMertakhai
@MrMertakhai 12 жыл бұрын
He makes it look easy* I can assure you, it's not
@coaldoubt2879
@coaldoubt2879 4 жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t know. My home is not big enough for these things. Plus, I tend to rush things.....so
@johnz.miller2258
@johnz.miller2258 11 жыл бұрын
Excellent old boy you'll be there in a jiffy.
@matthewlewis8292
@matthewlewis8292 11 жыл бұрын
What kind of timpani are those?
@someguythatsucksatdrumstan1510
@someguythatsucksatdrumstan1510 Жыл бұрын
Aenhelt Timpani made by Lefima
@NoahAngott
@NoahAngott 11 жыл бұрын
Allegro non Trompo? Way to go, subtitles.
@SuperSaiyanScandinavian
@SuperSaiyanScandinavian 11 жыл бұрын
It's kinda ignorant to say it's easy or difficult, really... I mean, it all depends how you use it. Sure if you're in an orchestra, it could be quite difficult. I wouldn't know, I've never been in that situation; however, if you're using it on your own and adding it to a song you've written etc. then it can also be quite easy. It depends completely on the written material and the situation you're playing in. Same goes for just about any other instrument too. (except for the french horn maybe)
@SuperNguyenChannel
@SuperNguyenChannel 10 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a Trong Drum
@willprater3234
@willprater3234 10 жыл бұрын
its really hard just telling you its not easy
@aaronrocs
@aaronrocs 12 жыл бұрын
yeah I feel bad now. I didn't notice that it was supposed to be a lesson. I just wanted to hear some epic Timpani music that reminds me or War Music. It's really hard to find and I got a little frustrated. I wanted (what I consider) war music, but every video I click on is either civil war marching band junk or heavy metal crap. If you have any suggestions, please share.
@872andy872
@872andy872 11 жыл бұрын
I'm just a beginning percussionist, can anyone add anything helpful onto what he said?
@kaoru1998
@kaoru1998 5 жыл бұрын
Get a teacher? This stuff won’t make any sense to you for a while yet, being a beginner. That’s the best advice I can give. A teacher, lots of practice and then, later comes the repertoire.
@Vesivian
@Vesivian 13 жыл бұрын
Looks easy
@schnozz87
@schnozz87 13 жыл бұрын
@Toshfunk Actually Nigel is a brilliant drum kit player too, some people maybe just play different to you? Crazy idea, I know...
@PoisonXGun
@PoisonXGun 12 жыл бұрын
For everyone who says Timpani is an easy instrument, try and then speak.
@missmaestro1
@missmaestro1 13 жыл бұрын
aww he looks sad
@Vesivian
@Vesivian 12 жыл бұрын
I was trolling ;p
@4thwatcher777
@4thwatcher777 11 жыл бұрын
The difficult part about the Timpani isn't playing it, but is tuning. When there's a key change in the piece, you're going to have to tune them inconspicuously! Most of the time, you will only get one shot to perfectly tune the timpani. If you're tuning is off, every one will hear it and it won't sound pleasant! It's not easy to memorize the pitch and intervals!
@Donutswithlazerz
@Donutswithlazerz 5 жыл бұрын
4thwatcher777 na
@examine1525
@examine1525 11 жыл бұрын
But... what makes it really hard?
@panplayer
@panplayer 13 жыл бұрын
He's totally playing into the drum & the sound is just breaking up. Hmmm.....
@anastasijaredzic8649
@anastasijaredzic8649 11 жыл бұрын
i suppose you sit down while playing. :P
@Bloodark124
@Bloodark124 11 жыл бұрын
I don't know, but consider this - a percussion player is to learn and know a great variety of percussion instruments, and they are most importantly, must be extremely reliable. If you make a mistake (e.g. too loud, slightly too fast, hitting with the wrong way/technique), everyone knows and you will have no where to hide, unlike a single violinist's mistake and 10+ other violinists covering your mistake. So, knowledge of instruments + skills + rare specialist = high pay? Probably. So,
@Roligyilok
@Roligyilok 13 жыл бұрын
Leather sticks for this part of Beethoven 9th????Are you crazy???
@wadoryu2u
@wadoryu2u 13 жыл бұрын
anybody else notice his muffling technique? it was pretty sad, every single time he muffled the timpani made a very noticeable vibrating sound
@csarito
@csarito 12 жыл бұрын
french grip all the way huh?
@100fakeman
@100fakeman 11 жыл бұрын
I had the first excerpt for a symphony audition and I'm in 8th grade -_-
@maxalaintwo3578
@maxalaintwo3578 4 жыл бұрын
So how's college?
@repugnant__6379
@repugnant__6379 11 жыл бұрын
I'm doing Beethoven 9 for ensemble auditions and I thought I had a good grasp, but my rolls are just absolute garbage in comparison.
@bonniebowduns431
@bonniebowduns431 7 жыл бұрын
Don't feel bad - Nigel has one of the fastest rolls on timps I have ever seen. I'd like to ask him if there is a way to speed up your rolls . Mine are ok on the 32 and 29 but are too slow on the 23 and 21. Watch his hands - he must be doing 10/second with each hand compared to my 6 or 7/sec - jealous !!
@kaoru1998
@kaoru1998 5 жыл бұрын
@@bonniebowduns431 -How fast the roll should be depends on the size drum you are playing on. Do you have a teacher? Contact the professional orchestra in your area and see if you can study with their timpanist. Then, you can get your questions answered. It’s too hard to explain in words how to properly play rolls. The power doesn’t come from just the hands. It’s a combination of movement. It’s hard to explain without showing what I mean.
@FilipusWisnumurti
@FilipusWisnumurti 12 жыл бұрын
hitting the timpani is easy, BUT, tuning it and memorize the pitches and where you must hit id very difficult, so it's a diffucult instrument
@schnozz87
@schnozz87 12 жыл бұрын
@Maybe listen to what he says, you might learn something...
@funkfactor1
@funkfactor1 13 жыл бұрын
fabulous player, does look like mr myagi from karate kid though!
@Skutieos7
@Skutieos7 11 жыл бұрын
purchase a timpani drum key and ask your band director to teach you how to clear a timpani head. assuming your high school's timpani sound like crap, nobody is going to fix it but you.
@Bambatsa13
@Bambatsa13 11 жыл бұрын
I play the trombone...why the hell am i watching this...(very nice by the way)
@shawnellemartineaux6212
@shawnellemartineaux6212 3 жыл бұрын
Mood 😂😂 But it's sooo good!
@UpcomingJedi
@UpcomingJedi 13 жыл бұрын
@milillom Who cares what you think anyways?
@tommytimp
@tommytimp 11 жыл бұрын
Good luck if you have no ear.
@jemimalamb78
@jemimalamb78 12 жыл бұрын
right..I dont play the Timpani and even i know that its difficult to master....are you a muscian?
@anastasijaredzic8649
@anastasijaredzic8649 10 жыл бұрын
But i have dear sir, but i have...People now sit, even when they dont have to. To each his own, i'm sorry if i have offended you.
@Jetgui22
@Jetgui22 12 жыл бұрын
@Regginyaga so modern music is good for you? hah! now that sucks!
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