SymPy is REVOLUTIONARY For Mathematical Tasks

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Today we talk about SymPy, which is a mind-blowing module for those of you who are into mathematics and need to work with equations and formulas on a regular basis.
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Timestamps:
(0:00) Intro
(0:56) Fundamentals
(7:12) Differentiating & Integrating Functions
(14:25) Limits
(17:38) Solving Equations
(21:18) Solving Differential Equations
(23:58) Matrix Eigenvalues
(24:40) Outro

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@marcrindermann9482 2 жыл бұрын

when sympy returns sqrt(15) it's not just because it's convenient, but it's exact. whereas math returns an approximation

@aurelia8028 2 жыл бұрын

Was about to comment that :P

@miguelalejandrochavezporra9261 4 ай бұрын

u can print the aproximation whit a normal calculus

@Bankoru 2 жыл бұрын

My favorite feature is being able to convert an expression to LaTeX.

@Milkman-007 Жыл бұрын

Yes! This is so awesome, completely made me ditch ditch matlab and R which have relatively poor symbolic systems.

@drumbum7999 Жыл бұрын

sympy truly undermines the need to learn LaTeX

@henryyoo3032 Жыл бұрын

@@drumbum7999 But they do completely different things? Are you confusing latex with some other symbolic math language?

@drumbum7999 Жыл бұрын

@@henryyoo3032 I said it undermines the need to learn LaTeX I didn't say it undermined LaTeX itself...

@FridgeFucker96 2 жыл бұрын

I discovered this like some weeks ago, built my own program to help me with maths, truly amazing!

@brandonscott3012 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the content. Always appreciate people trying to provide education to the world. Hope your channel is a success. 👍

@hnahler 2 жыл бұрын

Great intro to sympy. There is a small typo in the limits example with 50/x. You wanted to show the behaviour for x -> infinity but typed 00 instead of oo.

@efox29 Жыл бұрын

This is one of the best python related channels out there. The stuff I've learned from this channel in 10 mins...

@jona8003 Жыл бұрын

Great Video! If you execute the exact same lines in a Jupyter notebook, you automatically get the Latex output, which is super nice. Instead of like "x**2+ x**3" in the console, you get the actual resemblance of math notation like in text books etc.

@samre3006 7 ай бұрын

Makes me fall in love with math again. Pretty cool. Thanks for sharing this.

@dmitrykononenko6411 2 жыл бұрын

thanks for review, i didn't know about this useful library

@pjmmccann 2 жыл бұрын

My favourite piece of this was the "...mumble, mumble, mumble, ACCUMULATED BOUNDS [-2,2], mumble mumble..." when trying to get sympy to evaluate the integral of sin(x) between -oo and oo (which doesn't actually exist, of course). No explanation, just head down and carry on 😂.

@lucasgssilveira 2 жыл бұрын

Sympy is fantastic, I use it a lot, specially for automatic code generation. Every student, no matter the level, should learn it. It could be a bit faster, but I understand they are already working on it.

@davidr2421 2 жыл бұрын

Do you have any resources on how to use sympy with code generation? That sounds pretty cool.

@lucasgssilveira 2 жыл бұрын

@@davidr2421 Take a look at: "Björn Dahlgren, Kenneth Lyons, Aaron Meurer, and Jason Moore. Automatic code generation with sympy, 2017". If you google it, it will be the first reference. I used it a lot on my master thesis.

@dinobotpwnz 2 жыл бұрын

Sympy is slow by design. The developers who realize that it should've been written in C++ are working on it by starting symengine.

@miketan373 2 жыл бұрын

I was not aware of this phython library, thanks for showing. I can’t focus on the result sometimes because it is there for such an extreme short time.. to stop all the time the video breaks the whole story

@ardapy 2 жыл бұрын

How do you find those awesome libraries? Intentionally searching from web documentation or you had already a list that you are picking and working on it? I have my respect for you and your channel and you are doing a fantastic job. But I would like to get your mind set as well :)

@valerianmp 2 жыл бұрын

My guess is that if you work in math you probably already know some popular symbolic math software package (like Maple), so it's just natural to seek the open source alternative on a language that you are already familiar with. At least that's how I discover sympy, lol.

@davidr2421 2 жыл бұрын

@@valerianmp Exactly. In university I had to learn Maple in a modeling class. As soon as I got home I did an internet search for "Python equivalent of Maple"

@andywang4189 5 ай бұрын

Quite good, thanks 👍

@GiorgioM. 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the review. Can you write something for machine learning? In order to find the most probable equation by having a graph. Thanks again.

@byronwilliams7977 2 жыл бұрын

I loved it !😃

@xviewmytubex 2 жыл бұрын

Hi NeuralNine. I've searched the internet for this and no answers yet. I was wondering if you know why the pyinstaller would fail to generate the exe file using just a straight forward command like "pyinstaller -F -w filename.py". I'm running this and only the spec file is created, no build or dist folders/files. Appreciate the help Python expert! Thanks! =).

@oldschoolgaming6538 2 жыл бұрын

damn, I wish you posted this like, a month ago.. :D That said, great content as usual, never dissapoint. Keep up the good work!

@Chalisque 2 жыл бұрын

The limit(50/x,x,0) example should only return +oo if 0 is approached from the positive direction.

@aouerfelli 2 жыл бұрын

I was about to say that but then I found your comment.

@joachimgaukel9254 8 ай бұрын

what is the conclusion? I think, python is wrong !?

@Chalisque 8 ай бұрын

@@joachimgaukel9254 I read the docs. The sympy.liimit(f,x,0) method takes the limit approaching from the positive side. So this is a one-sided limit, not a two-sided limit as one (like me) would have thought.

@Freeflier1978 2 жыл бұрын

Sympy is better in the interactive terminal or juypter notebook when it displays mathjax outputs

@100timezcooler 2 жыл бұрын

This is great since im losing all my matlab modules (including the symbolic maths one) once im graduate and lose my school email

@shreenivasn464 2 жыл бұрын

An amazing thing is Jupyter Lab displays the output in mathematical font, unlike output we get in this video

@JACARTISTEOFFICIEL Жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot for your videos. Please how can I display math symbols as integrals, roots using TKinter ? I have an idea to try but I'm stack to it. I don't know exactly how to display such symbols Thanks in advance

@vfx7t 2 жыл бұрын

thank you !

@BillyT83 2 жыл бұрын

Insightful

@foadsf 2 жыл бұрын

I would love to see some WxMaxima tutorials as well

@cliffordohipeni1518 2 жыл бұрын

I really like your intro music

@lizardfog 2 жыл бұрын

I believe the first part of the differential equation should be Eq(y(t).diff(t,t,2) to get the second derivative

@thesattary 6 ай бұрын

it becomes more fun if you run sympy codes in jupyter notebook cell

@jedi10101 11 ай бұрын

the purpose of symbols is if you have multiple symbols you can do it in one line. like your 2 line assignment x = symbols('x) y = symbols('y') should just be x, y = symbols('x y')

@eduardopasseto2387 2 жыл бұрын

Where are the constant when evaluating an integral?

@Baaqel 2 жыл бұрын

I noticed, what really tripped me up was the lack of implicit differentiation when he used examples with x and y with respect to x

@lawrencedoliveiro9104 2 жыл бұрын

16:24 Except you typed “00” instead of “oo”, which is why you got the same answer as before.

@hellfiresquid 2 жыл бұрын

i wish i had known about this before my last quarter of university

@Frank-ie8dh Ай бұрын

Best tutorial

@philtoa334 2 жыл бұрын

Thx.

@Mekuso8 2 жыл бұрын

Sympy is conceptually awesome but in practice it is barely useable. It fails to compute even fairly simple derivatives of matrix expressions, for example, that Matlab's symbolic toolbox handles in a few minutes.

@InfiniteQuest86 2 жыл бұрын

Use Sage. Way better than matlab.

@Baaqel 2 жыл бұрын

Yep, as soon as I saw the result for the integral of sin(x) from -∞ to ∞ I was thinking it might have some limitations lol

@tomofthedepths1742 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I hope it will get better. Mathematica still holds a big advantage in symbolic maths. Sympy isn't even close to it for now.

@dinobotpwnz 2 жыл бұрын

I love how sympy even has a "feature" to find a Groebner basis. You know... for people who think Python should be used for algorithms that run in doubly exponential time.

@capsey_ 2 жыл бұрын

I wonder can it solve system of simultaneous equations?

@front331 3 күн бұрын

Hi, the solve equation method doesn't work when more than 2 expressions contain x. This is my code and it has an error: from sympy import * x = Symbol('x') x_sol1 = solve(Eq(((7*x)/(3*x+3))-(5/(4*x-4)), ((3*x)/(3*x+2)), x)) print(x_sol1) TypeError: Equality.__new__() takes 3 positional arguments but 4 were given

@alisyoung2741 2 ай бұрын

Oh shit I came here for the sympy with a "enpei"

@robcarl1100 2 жыл бұрын

Interesting. Can this take imaginary numbers or will it choke?

@krzysztofdymanowski8759 2 жыл бұрын

Well, Matlab exists, but SymPy is free and also easier to use

@lawrencedoliveiro9104 2 жыл бұрын

8:56 That’s a partial derivative.

@JLSXMK8 2 жыл бұрын

When I try to say "from sympy import eq", I get an import error. This is on sympy 1.10.1; I wonder why this is the case.

@jedi10101 11 ай бұрын

case sensitive. should be Eq not eq

@alexomovierecap1234 2 жыл бұрын

please make a tutorial about face mapping

@stardustsong1680 2 жыл бұрын

The "oo" sign is insane. "Inf" is not too ugly to deprecate and it is obviously more readable.

@Vaaaaadim 2 жыл бұрын

I thought it was pretty hilarious. But yeah, +/-inf seems better. That being said, "oo" might be amenable to having a ligature.

@leveltube10 2 жыл бұрын

Converting this ability to LaTex syntax would be nice!

@o0Serendipity0o 2 жыл бұрын

I think this works: print(latex(Integral(sqrt(1/x), x))) And with preview instead of print it open the result in a window. You may have to install a library for this one

@xxbluelostknaxxx2219 2 жыл бұрын

the guy that created this modul broke hist brain while writing it

@honne23 2 жыл бұрын

why not Julia thought

@unst4bl398 2 жыл бұрын

"this is revolutionary", laughs in mathcad 2001

@ElricleNecro 2 жыл бұрын

In what way is this revolutionary? Software like mathematica and Maple are doing this since multiple decades, and, last time I compared them with sympy (a few years ago) and they were a lot better, but in a way it would take decades for sympy to catch back. And they also permit to export equations to different languages.

@philperry6564 2 жыл бұрын

REVOLUTIONARY? CASs has been around for decades.

@lawrencedoliveiro9104 2 жыл бұрын

2:15 It’s not exact, it’s rounded.

@Baaqel 2 жыл бұрын

I thought that was funny since sqrt(15) is the exact value not the other way around

@robfielding8566 2 жыл бұрын

It was so frustrating when I tried to use it for raw, simplified, Clifford Algebra (ie: Geometric Algebra). Their notion of non-commutativity seems weird. Individual operators don't have this property, but types of objects in expressions DO. ie: "a : real * b : real = b : real * a : real" says that "*" commutes for a pair of reals. But: "a : vec * b: vec" doesn't commute automatically. I was trying to define rules for "e1,e2,e3" in Geometric Algebra. It really seems like it should be straight-forward; but I had to go write rules in straight code manually instead. In Wolfram (and maybe now even Mathematica?), "**" got changed from non-commutative multiply to be exponentiation to follow Python.

@dinobotpwnz 2 жыл бұрын

Cadabra2 is better for stuff like that.

@lawrencedoliveiro9104 2 жыл бұрын

11:17 No, it’s one third of x³.

@Baaqel 2 жыл бұрын

LaTeX notion would be so much more useful

@devinlucaschu9123 2 жыл бұрын

Senpai

@FaranAiki 2 жыл бұрын

What is the matter, Kouhai?

@servantofourlordjesuschris6456 4 ай бұрын

is this cheating? for school

@MrKA1961 2 жыл бұрын

sympy is more useful when you use it with jupyter.

@qwerty-wt5dr 2 жыл бұрын

Nyisooo

@InfiniteQuest86 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah it seems cool, but if you are doing anything like this you should be using Sage. Sage is way more powerful and intuitive, and allows you to do way more math than this.

@dinobotpwnz 2 жыл бұрын

Indeed. Sage and symengine have pros and cons compared to each other. But both are better than sympy.

@AKBARESFAHANI 2 жыл бұрын

Hahahaha, Matlab has had forever

@FaranAiki 2 жыл бұрын

It has different purposes.

@ericbwertz 2 жыл бұрын

Hahahaha, MATLAB isn't free. So if this is good enough, it's oo better than MATLAB.

@driesceuppens7623 2 жыл бұрын

While this library is very cool it's not particularly when doing something like a math heavy degree. I learned about it in my first your in undergrad for Physics and haven't used it a single time since. It's cousin numpy though is much more useful.

@vitalyl1327 2 жыл бұрын

Hm.... How is it revolutionary if Maxima / Axiom / Maple and dozens of other CASes did it for decades? SymPy is a pretty bland and primitive CAS.

@julians.2597 2 жыл бұрын

The integration in the most popular data science programming language is incredible, but I agree that on its own SymPy is pretty average.

@vitalyl1327 2 жыл бұрын

@@julians.2597 yes, integration is useful (although, still possible to use an interface between Python and a grown-up CAS to do the same).

@sheikhAbdelrahman 2 жыл бұрын

why to use this when there is well-established MATLAB! It has been there for ages and reached extremely high maturity level in all subsidiaries of mathematics; calculus, algebra ..

@lawrencedoliveiro9104 2 жыл бұрын

MATLAB is for matrix manipulations, not symbolic maths.

@whitecanid8938 2 жыл бұрын

@@lawrencedoliveiro9104 maple and mathematica did this 20 years ago already

@ericbwertz 2 жыл бұрын

US$0.00, or whatever that is in your local currency

@heptex8989 Жыл бұрын

Its because MATLAB is dedicated to mathmatics. Python can be used for data science, networking, machine learning, GUI’s etc etc so being able to deal with algebra is very valuable

@TheThunderSpirit 2 жыл бұрын

cant see a useful application of this other than solving homework

@FaranAiki 2 жыл бұрын

Which is useless in terms of higher level.

@dinobotpwnz 2 жыл бұрын

Do you think cars are made by trial and error or something?

@FaranAiki 2 жыл бұрын

@@dinobotpwnz Irrelevant, red herring, let me ask you: do cars are made because of this application? You got their point wrong. They meant that this specific software is "useless" according to them.

@dinobotpwnz 2 жыл бұрын

@@FaranAiki Cars are made partly by solving differential equations and any engineer knows it would be a waste of time and money to do that by hand. Whether and how many use this specific application is unknown and irrelevant. Sympy is a project to make the algorithms they use more accessible to people used to Python.

@FaranAiki 2 жыл бұрын

@@dinobotpwnz Still, the existence of SymPy is irrelevant to what you had been saying.

@JarppaGuru 2 жыл бұрын

23:05 if you dont know equations then you cant python. if you know equations you cant do it python its diff thing lol. look at that. nothing even close same lol. put that same you wrote and solve it lol i have know idea what that equation on write it on paper? there is no e on python functions huh

@FaranAiki 2 жыл бұрын

If you do not know English, then someone would not understand the messages that you are trying to convey, huh.

@Lhuge 2 жыл бұрын

symp

@Khusyasy 2 жыл бұрын

notice me sympy~

@frogstud 2 жыл бұрын

The limit of 50/x for x -> 0 doesn't exist

@glenn8459 2 жыл бұрын

No, it approaches infinity

@DendrocnideMoroides 2 жыл бұрын

@@glenn8459 no it actually does not exist because if you approach 0 from the positive direction you get +infinity but if you approach 0 from the negative direction you get -infinity but for example, 50/𝑥^2 does approach +infinity (because no matter which direction you choose you will approach +infinity) for a limit to exist the limit from both directions should be equal same as with the derivative to exist the derivative from both directions should be equal

@lawrencedoliveiro9104 2 жыл бұрын

In the real plane, there are two answers, depending on which direction you approach zero from. In the complex plane, there are an infinity of answers, because there is an infinity of directions from which you can approach zero.

@DendrocnideMoroides 2 жыл бұрын

@@lawrencedoliveiro9104 we are at least assuming real numbers because otherwise, you can go into Quaternions, Octonions, Sedenion, ...

@auseryt 2 жыл бұрын

Interesting. Too bad it is in python.

@adamhenriksson6007 2 жыл бұрын

I don't get it. What is the real use of this? It's just a calculator.

@aim2986 2 жыл бұрын

Calculators are generally used for calculating stuff, not solving equations. Also, most calculators arent programmable.

@Baaqel 2 жыл бұрын

@@aim2986 most graphing calculators are programmable

@aim2986 2 жыл бұрын

@@Baaqel That's why i said "most calculators", not "all calculators". Majority of calculators dont have graphing support.

@oguzhantopaloglu9442 2 жыл бұрын

so simply a shitty library that works like matlab

@blindshellvideos 2 жыл бұрын

why shitty?

@HypnosisBear 2 жыл бұрын

It's not a shitty library LoL 🤣🤦🤦 It's one of the best libraries out there. It works amazingly!!! You just haven't used it. It's been maintained and updated for more than a decade and still it's being maintained.

@oguzhantopaloglu9442 2 жыл бұрын

@@HypnosisBear You clearly never used MATLAB before

@54365100 2 жыл бұрын

If there isnt a equivalent or better library with the same simplicity in python its value is painfully obvious

@Nathanael986 2 жыл бұрын

difference is Matlab: 100$+, sympy : free. Of course there are always multiple tools for a task.

@HenrikVendelbo 2 жыл бұрын

Please don’t claim that computer science is math heavy. In 30 years I’ve never needed math. Lots of psychology though.

@ayylmao2410 2 жыл бұрын

lo just depends on what u do lol

@Baaqel 2 жыл бұрын

Working with any kind of physics definitely requires a solid understanding of algebra, often trig, and calculus. Complex and imaginary numbers are also very useful in some computations

@FaranAiki 2 жыл бұрын

Then, what do you do? Fixing printers?

@ericbwertz 2 жыл бұрын

The community is moving towards calling what you do "software engineering". The true CS theory/research stuff is math moreso than your programming/engineering.