System Failure: The Boeing Crashes | Fault Lines

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Al Jazeera English

Al Jazeera English

4 жыл бұрын

When a commercial airplane crashed off the coast of Indonesia in October 2018, global aviation authorities were shocked.
The aircraft was a 737 MAX, one of the newest models of US manufacturer Boeing.
And then when a second MAX dropped out of the sky in Ethiopia in March 2019, investigators said they believed that software on the airplane played a role in both crashes.
With 346 people dead and the MAX now grounded, aviation authorities around the globe have asked what went wrong, how the US certified the aircraft in 2017 and how oversight failed. Families and investigators are still searching for answers.
A former Boeing engineer who worked on the plane, and asked to remain anonymous, recalls that the design and testing of the 737 MAX took place amid immense commercial pressure.
"Cost pressure and time. Time pressure was the biggest impact, biggest driver ... [There was] immense pressure on getting the airplane to market as soon as possible," he told Fault Lines.
"On the 737 MAX there was constant pressure to not change anything. From a cost perspective, change costs money. The business side drives the culture."
Captain Dennis Tajer from the Allied Pilots Association believes "the system failed".
"The system is Boeing, the FAA, other oversight areas from within those groups," he says. "What's the measure on that judgment? These crashes. It's that simple: the system failed. It failed our passengers, it failed the globe."
Fault Lines traces what led to the two plane crashes and asks if US aviation regulators have allowed the industry too much control over safety.
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@zevanoyaumalvasti3928
@zevanoyaumalvasti3928 4 жыл бұрын
I lost my friend in the Lion Air accident, and her body never found. Still, I couldn't imagine how painful it was for the man who lost his wife, and his kid to lost a mother. I feel so sorry for them
@khalidabdulghani
@khalidabdulghani 4 жыл бұрын
My condolences to you, my friend. All the best!
@zevanoyaumalvasti3928
@zevanoyaumalvasti3928 4 жыл бұрын
@@khalidabdulghani thank you my friend, wish you all the best too!
@PP-ed9cf
@PP-ed9cf 3 жыл бұрын
And as unimaginably tragic as that is, it would be so much easier on families and loved ones if the guilty party assumed responsibility. But no, they are too much focused on cleaning themselves up of their wrongdoing and making their filthy billions.
@luddite333
@luddite333 2 жыл бұрын
I am sorry - in USA we have so many companies and politicians and FAA that do not value good people like you or the family in the video.
@lizpurr8402
@lizpurr8402 2 жыл бұрын
I am so very sorry for the loss of your friend. May God Bless you and give you peace.
@kria9119
@kria9119 4 жыл бұрын
The guy who lost his wife broke my heart. So much pain and sadness. And love...
@renneedwards9826
@renneedwards9826 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder how he and the baby are doing so far 🥺😞
@danielle1ashley
@danielle1ashley 2 ай бұрын
Ugh same. You can tell he truly loved her with all his heart. Broke me. 😢
@3storiesUp
@3storiesUp 4 жыл бұрын
My heart goes out to that lovely young lad who lost his wife. Terribly sad.
@alexdupreez9005
@alexdupreez9005 4 жыл бұрын
Same
@ruez
@ruez 4 жыл бұрын
A320neo: introduced in January 2016, 825 built, wide seats, cheaper to purchase, 0 crash and 0 fatalities. B737 MAX: introduced in May 2017, 393 built, narrow seats, expensive to purchase, 2 crashes and 346 fatalities within 4 months and 10 days.
@therealrobertbirchall
@therealrobertbirchall Жыл бұрын
Built by non union labour
@TepuGames
@TepuGames 4 жыл бұрын
feel sad for the guy lost his wife
@noblecollins9549
@noblecollins9549 4 жыл бұрын
I felt very emotional
@Racko.
@Racko. 4 жыл бұрын
@@noblecollins9549 Another guy lost his ENTIRE Family from this crash. So sad!
@kevinanimationsyt2917
@kevinanimationsyt2917 4 жыл бұрын
Me too.
@alexdupreez9005
@alexdupreez9005 4 жыл бұрын
same
@nicksivds
@nicksivds 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Just think, There are many more like him. These 2 crashes affected hundreds of families.
@hagarthehorrible1391
@hagarthehorrible1391 4 жыл бұрын
As a nervous flyer I can't even imagine the horror those poor souls must've gone through. RIP.
@juliakerry2955
@juliakerry2955 4 жыл бұрын
That poor man in the beginning, my heart broke for him ! .
@suhail1452
@suhail1452 4 жыл бұрын
MCAS means: MAY CRASH ANY SECOND.
@kirilmihaylov1934
@kirilmihaylov1934 4 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha
@alexdupreez9005
@alexdupreez9005 4 жыл бұрын
hahaha
@GoogleUserGmail
@GoogleUserGmail 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds fitting
@othmanbarahmeh631
@othmanbarahmeh631 4 жыл бұрын
Wow That's Dam True
@peterdavid7014
@peterdavid7014 4 жыл бұрын
No wrong mate.. it’s actually MONEY COMES ABOVE SAFETY..lol
@marco1173
@marco1173 4 жыл бұрын
This plane needs to be grounded for life and teach Boeing a lesson.
@luddite333
@luddite333 2 жыл бұрын
thank you its common sense !
@ruiruark7226
@ruiruark7226 4 жыл бұрын
So sad to learn that all those deaths could have been avoided.
@kmcat
@kmcat 4 жыл бұрын
The Ethiopian crew had the aircraft uncontrolled after the stab trim failed, but turning a failed system back on which is a huge no no in the aviation industry. As for the Loinair their crew didn't even pick up on the stab trim runaway. A stab trim runaway happens more often that you would think, but crew else were are better trained to deal and identify the issue. Yes the 737 Max has an issue, but I would not be surprised if the same outcome would of occurred if the two crew had the same issue in the NG.
@youtubegaming6877
@youtubegaming6877 4 жыл бұрын
@@kmcat if manual trim is not working are there any other options other then electric trim. When ever a aircraft is designed all fail system scenario should be considered. Boeing 737 max and MCAS is a rushed poorly designed system to make profit over safety. And always remember Prevention is better than cure.
@Observer-cd2ul
@Observer-cd2ul 4 жыл бұрын
@@kmcat Note what Captain Sullenberger has to say about blaming the pilots: "I know firsthand the challenges the pilots on the doomed accident flights faced, and how wrong it is to blame them for not being able to compensate for such a pernicious and deadly design. These emergencies did not present as a classic runaway stabilizer problem, but initially as ambiguous unreliable airspeed and altitude situations, masking MCAS. The MCAS design should never have been approved, not by Boeing, and not by the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA)."
@mateuszzimon8216
@mateuszzimon8216 4 жыл бұрын
@@kmcat U should watch a "Mentour aviation" about stab trim runaway to look how much force is needed to operated that when u have a massive forces on trim
@lisaamaliyah436
@lisaamaliyah436 4 жыл бұрын
Yes if boeing immidiately check for lion air crashed 5 monts before ethiopian
@BadGuyKryptonite
@BadGuyKryptonite 4 жыл бұрын
This was hard to watch man...the grief is too much...
@KristinCortez
@KristinCortez 3 жыл бұрын
I know. Listening to the widowed young father speak about the loss of his wife and how his beautiful baby boy would grow up without his Mama brought me to tears. 😢 RIP to the 346 precious souls who died on Flights 610 and 302. ❤️
@kaikai114
@kaikai114 4 жыл бұрын
I share my tears with the guy who lost his wife...
@nungkinugroho5425
@nungkinugroho5425 4 жыл бұрын
Boeing: hundreds of lives lost? it happens Boeing: share price drops? it's a disaster
@mofa7899
@mofa7899 4 жыл бұрын
its not BOEING ITS THE AMERICAN WAY
@PKAPE004
@PKAPE004 4 жыл бұрын
Mo Fa, American way indeed. US government: If you, US citizens, commit murder, you will be prosecuted in a court of law. Us government: If we, US administration, commit atrocities resulting in deaths/displacement of millions in another country, no one will be held responsible except whistleblowers.
@kirilmihaylov1934
@kirilmihaylov1934 4 жыл бұрын
@@PKAPE004 exactly
@largol33t1
@largol33t1 3 жыл бұрын
Bad news: it was approved for flight. Guess some dirty politician liked the fat bribes Boeing was paying under the table.
@waqarsyed6641
@waqarsyed6641 4 жыл бұрын
737 MAX was made in Rush to compete with Airbus new A320.... my heart goes out for the victims and their families sorry for your loss from the bottom of my heart...... it was funny how they try to blame the Ethiopian Airlines and Lion Air.... when it was their own fault from the beginning from Boeing.... nobody should buy that airplane or at least not get on one..... it's a flop air plane..... failed .....Max stands for maximum casualties
@Parshvamehta1991
@Parshvamehta1991 3 жыл бұрын
Seems like we learnt nothing from Titanic
@encinobalboa
@encinobalboa 4 жыл бұрын
Sad and maddening because Boeing has an existing MCAS design in the 767 that features redundant input from AOA sensors and automatic system disengage with pilot stick input. How these safety features were omitted in the Max should be the focus of the investigation.
@pumpalBo
@pumpalBo 4 жыл бұрын
They outsourced the code to a web dev in India ..
@GuinessOriginal
@GuinessOriginal 4 жыл бұрын
pumpal LKT yup, after sacking all their in house software engineers to save costs
@jonpav6224
@jonpav6224 4 жыл бұрын
Engineering companies should be led by engineers. As soon as profit, business and marketing are the primary drivers it's game over. Too much outsourcing and "partnering" with other companies to reduce costs.
@pumpalBo
@pumpalBo 4 жыл бұрын
@@jonpav6224 Completely agree. I keep repeating that you can not apply same business approach to just any kind of business. You are not always selling clothes or iPhones, so you should adjust your management. Unfortunately corporate culture spreads out mediocrity world wide. IMO there is a lot broken in the current system, where capable people are not appreciated and often even unwanted by the management..
@jonpav6224
@jonpav6224 4 жыл бұрын
@@pumpalBo So true unfortunately. Intelligent and passionate people are drawn to particular industries. They make the magic happen. The old (outdated) model of working from the ground up, knowing your product / service backwards used to make a difference. Corporate structures reward units of management. Everything is a cost, only profit matters. Combined with a framework of hands off / self regulation it leads to the predictably dire outcomes such as these. Aviation generally learns from engineering missteps but this was not unforeseen.
@souissi1
@souissi1 4 жыл бұрын
When the FAA officials were ex Boeing employees !!!!
@lavergnee
@lavergnee 4 жыл бұрын
When FAA officials will be Boeing’s employees!!!
@souissi1
@souissi1 4 жыл бұрын
@@lavergnee in the last couple of years they were....
@Pcarnevaaa
@Pcarnevaaa 4 жыл бұрын
I didn’t know the future farmers of America was involved with Boeing that explains a lot 🤣
@souissi1
@souissi1 4 жыл бұрын
@@Pcarnevaaa even McDonald's ex staff are building the 787 !!!
@Matt_10203
@Matt_10203 4 жыл бұрын
@@souissi1 787 hasn't had a crash ever. Also being an ex staff member of McDonalds then working on aircraft has no basis on skill. A stupid statement.
@brianbarcus5853
@brianbarcus5853 4 жыл бұрын
Extremely heartbreaking to watch that guy talk about his wife that died in the crash. May God bless him and ease his pain.
@krispybacon5038
@krispybacon5038 4 жыл бұрын
Boeing tried to cut costs but it's costing them now.
@NickanM
@NickanM 4 жыл бұрын
Saddest thing is that the passengers and their loved ones paid the ultimate price... 🥺😡
@kiwiryker
@kiwiryker 4 жыл бұрын
Great report, grown man here tears , this could have been any of us who fly ,, R.I.P. victims of Boeing
@amania9254
@amania9254 4 жыл бұрын
Waiting for this sort of report for quite some time, thanks for preparing and sharing it.
@hyouzanren1846
@hyouzanren1846 4 жыл бұрын
I can't Imagine how pilots feel when they knew the plane they ride have a system to override their control and informed only after already kill 2 plane!
@samlsd9711
@samlsd9711 4 жыл бұрын
They don't even know there is faulty system to override!!! Would be a legit question at least one of the pilots would ask. But they did not know there is a system that they cannot override!
@Jamenator1
@Jamenator1 4 жыл бұрын
@@samlsd9711 The industry was well informed about the system (MCAS) and what to do after the first crash, within weeks the entire industry knew about this system, what to expect and what to do if it was fed false data. For unknown reasons the 2nd crew just did not do what they were supposed to to, many of their actions were against the checklist Boeing told them to use. The system can be easily overridden with normal trim inputs, the crew of the first crash did it more than 20 times without even knowing they were doing it, they eventually crash after the captain gave control to the first officer who's trim inputs were too small, not big enough to completely undo MCAS inputs which eventually moved the trim too far and control was lost.
@weldonyoung1013
@weldonyoung1013 4 жыл бұрын
@@Jamenator1 , not quite right regarding the second crash & the system being easily tured off. Due to the type of sensor failure many system faults would have been competiting for cockpit crew's attention. Not only would the crew have difficulty preforming the necessary actions, they likely would not know quickly just what corrective action to lookup. As for disabling the automated system easily, that would have taken knowledge the automated system was taking control. In the Lion Air (1st crash) crash the pilot preformed the action over 20 time that he thought would take the automated system out of the loop. After the first crash flight crew were trained in the method to disable the MCAS, yet this is not intuitive with how they had become fimiliar with controlling the Boeing 737 type aircraft.
@Jamenator1
@Jamenator1 4 жыл бұрын
@@weldonyoung1013 Yes the reason why it crashed was distractions masking the real problem, however the fact remains if it was known that MCAS was active when it should not be, the way to stop it is very simple, trim the aircraft normally, leaving no more than 5 sec between trim inputs, then use the cutout switches which have been in the 737 for 50 years. The crew of the Ethiopian jet did not follow the checklist correctly, they tried to engage the autopilot several times despite the checklist specifically calling for it to be dis-engaged. They did this again right at the end after turning the trim system back on (against checklist) and for unknown reasons while the aircraft was entering its final dive they were trying to engage the autopilot when all they had to do to recover was use the normal trim controls. This was possibly because they knew MCAS would not engage if the autopilot was engaged. However they couldn't get the autopilot to engage because it could not engage under those conditions (possibly due to heavy force on the yoke), so they just wasted their time doing the opposite of what the checklist called for, it didn't work and the jet lost control while they were distracted. Their reasons may have been understandable in the moment, only the final report will tell, but the fact remains they did not follow the checklist. Obviously, given that 2 crews have crashed, its is hard to detect and overcome in the real world, but that doesn't mean it's had to override if you try, its just hard to know when to override it.
@weldonyoung1013
@weldonyoung1013 4 жыл бұрын
@@Jamenator1 , I believe you may have target the culprit - the flight crew were over stressed/worked during one of the most intense phases of flight - the takeoff. Trying to engage the auto pilot might have been meant to reduce their workload so that they could analyse the problem. This they did while leaving the engines in takeoff thrust, which would lead to ineffective manual control. I've also heard that if the MCAS runaway is not addresses within seconds (up to 10seconds, well within the timeframe you state for proper recovery actions), recovery can be difficult or impossible. For such a system you would think the trained flight crew would be taught to elevate the MCAS to top priority, but then it should have also be designed that way into the flight controls. Hope we find the answers when the Ethiopian crash final report is released.
@brentsummers7377
@brentsummers7377 4 жыл бұрын
David Warren the inventor of the two black boxes should be thanked for stopping almost all the lies from the aircraft makers (and pilots) about what really happened in accidents. Without those black boxes Boeing would still be blaming in a racist way the pilots of the two 737MAX accidents. Without those black boxes it would have taken a USA airline 737 MAX crash before the fleet was grounded.
@petep.2092
@petep.2092 Жыл бұрын
Actually, the black boxes show that the news media lied. What happened on the airplanes is not at all what you read in the news. There was no confusion, no desperate struggle with the flight controls, no system took control from the pilots, the pilots DID counteract the system that activated-24 times! on one of the flights, on the flight before that the pilots actually shut off the system and continued on to their destination.
@petep.2092
@petep.2092 Жыл бұрын
Blaming the pilots is not racist; but pretending it is racist… that's a cowardly way of avoiding responsibility. The pilots were not trained on at least one basic procedure that is mandatory. They can't be blamed for not receiving training that their airline is required to give them. I don't know why the airlines didn't give them the training. But by avoiding pointing it out, the problem will not be fixed.
@rais1953
@rais1953 Жыл бұрын
Some countries rightly grounded the 737 MAX very quickly after the second crash. The USA took longer but it had to follow.
@shivamgaba8368
@shivamgaba8368 4 жыл бұрын
Thank You team Al Jazeera for excellent content. keep up the good work.
@michaelblack7043
@michaelblack7043 4 жыл бұрын
It defeats comprehension how the CEO Mulienburg still has his job. He signed off on this aircraft at every single point of if its manufacture and flight life. Incredible.
@richardlumleysmith2843
@richardlumleysmith2843 4 жыл бұрын
FAA should be prosecuted for manslsughter -where was the oversight ).
@Fluxtime451
@Fluxtime451 4 жыл бұрын
its boeing and the faa
@conflagrationTuesday
@conflagrationTuesday 4 жыл бұрын
A lot of certification is now "self-certified". Thank various political persuasion defunding 'expensive' agencies :|
@janverboven
@janverboven 4 жыл бұрын
Richard - the US administration is run by money - nothing else.
@alfayeedfitness778
@alfayeedfitness778 4 жыл бұрын
Not a nervous flyer but the developments concerning how Boeing prefers business over safety make me think twice before traveling on an airplane.I will stick to Airbus.
@carolmorris404
@carolmorris404 4 жыл бұрын
I sincerely hope this dad is receiving counseling for PTSD. Boeing should pay his medical accounts. My son flew out from the UK to South Africa to surprise me. I casually asked him on which airline did he fly. He said Ethiopian, I bit my tongue not to bring up this crash but I said a silent prayer, thank God those flying Max coffins are grounded. RIP.
@_YSET
@_YSET 3 жыл бұрын
Can we just talk about the love the man had for his wife and how it broke not only his but our hearts
@dannyjohnson7766
@dannyjohnson7766 4 жыл бұрын
I feel for all that lost their lives that day but the first interview with that man who lost his wife!!! Pulled on my heart strings 😢💙✌🇬🇧
@claudiav2222
@claudiav2222 4 жыл бұрын
Well my father died because accident in street He fell of motorcycle while driving go to work and die few hour later He never go home , i feel he will go home but he never go home so i know his pain
@essenceunique5968
@essenceunique5968 4 жыл бұрын
Sadly we live in a world where Money over powers the value of human life. Watching this breaks my heart..when ever I fly I have a hard time because of tragedy’s like this..I understand that you have to live life to the fullest with no fear but I would never trust flying in a Boeing 737 even if things were fixed. R.i.p to the victims of this terrifying tragedy
@margretfortune1524
@margretfortune1524 4 жыл бұрын
It is appalling that other news agencies do not take the time to do a bit of investigating as Al Jezeera and sometimes RT. Maybe that would help as all the certification agencies failed us.
@vWaLLBangz
@vWaLLBangz 4 жыл бұрын
It’s all about bullshit and feeding us distractions. Quality journalism is a rarity. It can survive even in these big conglomerates of media
@joelalvares8351
@joelalvares8351 4 жыл бұрын
Everytime get on a plane I still check the wings for the signature fin fork of the max... .just to be sure it's not going to be my last flight.... LOL
@A.D.540
@A.D.540 4 жыл бұрын
The death by plane is so low people don't take the risk seriously 🙄
@Matt_10203
@Matt_10203 4 жыл бұрын
It's called a split winglet.
@joelalvares8351
@joelalvares8351 4 жыл бұрын
@@Matt_10203 thanks for the correction.... 👍
@masihullahhasanyar1084
@masihullahhasanyar1084 4 жыл бұрын
You can observe it on the boarding pass as well
@ilovesuisse1
@ilovesuisse1 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t care how many fixes Boeing makes to the 737, i’m never getting on one.
@camf7522
@camf7522 4 жыл бұрын
This is the most complete and unbiased reporting so far, and presents all the known facts so clearly. Now there are also problems with earlier models of the B737, pickle forks and slat tracks etc. It was interesting that the FAA representative did mention at the hearing that the FAA was pretty much the last regulator in the world to ground the MAX.
@lordoftheflings
@lordoftheflings 4 жыл бұрын
The FAA lost all global credibility as a result and will never be the driver of global aviation safety again. That is now probably forever in Europeans hands.
@kirilmihaylov1934
@kirilmihaylov1934 4 жыл бұрын
@@lordoftheflings US regulators have really bad record of doing their job.... remember 2008 banking crisis that shocked the world.....
@camf7522
@camf7522 4 жыл бұрын
Kiril Mihaylov and the gulf oil spill by BP. And natural gas fracking...the list is long.
@aguslaeman9416
@aguslaeman9416 4 жыл бұрын
FAA you can't trust them anymore, they should been trial to the court with boeing together.
@yuukichan12
@yuukichan12 2 жыл бұрын
I can't fathom this type of incident happening in this day and age. And then to allow it to happen again, just 5 months later. Cost-cutting that cost the lives of well over 300 lives. They need to put the executives of Boeing on every subsequent testing on this aircraft. I can't imagine the fear of the passengers, the terror of the pilots when they realized that they could not save themselves or the lives of the many souls who had trusted them to keep them safe... And all of the family, friends and loved ones who's lives are irreparably destroyed. The real tragedy is how unavoidable this was. Those people would be here today had the ones at the top *truly* prioritized safety over profit
@user-rc9qi6yp6k
@user-rc9qi6yp6k 4 жыл бұрын
That faa guy sounding like grounding the 737 after back to back crashes was their 'finest' moment and are doing such a good job.
@larryelliott9157
@larryelliott9157 4 жыл бұрын
How many are aware that Boeing CEO who totally screwed up the 787 dreamliner and then retired was awarded a 23 million dollar bonus and then was able to retire on a $250,000 pension. That's $250,000 per month. Yes you read that correctly.
@Matt_10203
@Matt_10203 4 жыл бұрын
The dreamliner is fine.
@mateuszzimon8216
@mateuszzimon8216 4 жыл бұрын
@@Matt_10203 Go ask LOT how fine is.... They still wait for engine from RR...
@istiboytv
@istiboytv 4 жыл бұрын
And no individuals or FAA personel charged..
@golden4730
@golden4730 4 жыл бұрын
Boeing murdered those people. This wasn't an accident. This was murder. Not hard to understand at all.
@atari7001
@atari7001 4 жыл бұрын
Did you watch the video? The hardware installed was a safety feature designed to STOP emergencies. The intent was to save lives. Your assertion is emotional and nonsensical.
@oneluv4736
@oneluv4736 4 жыл бұрын
I wish all Boeing employees watched this video especially top management
@4681MM
@4681MM 4 жыл бұрын
Great documentary as always by Laila Al Arian and team. Keep up the excellent work!
@lolplays1102
@lolplays1102 4 жыл бұрын
3:30 I feel so bad for this man😢😢
@workplace8605
@workplace8605 4 жыл бұрын
So gald Al Jazeera is looking into this.
@Salieri21
@Salieri21 4 жыл бұрын
Because of the higher and more forward position of the engines on the MAX, the plane tends to tilt up when the pilots take off with full throttle. And this triggers the MCAS to try and tilt the plane's nose down. MCAS would level the plane then disengage automatically, but the pilots do not know this information and try to tilt the plane up which triggers MCAS again and again. 737 MAX planes flew hundreds of times on a daily basis, but the pilots do not perform take-off with full throttle so the plane does not tilt few degrees upwards and MCAS does not engage.
@rollyelbambino
@rollyelbambino 4 жыл бұрын
I'll never ride one of them planes
@pretjenr1127
@pretjenr1127 4 жыл бұрын
Same thing happend with airbus,
@beback_
@beback_ 4 жыл бұрын
We don't have a choice in the matter.
@Ntdyz
@Ntdyz 4 жыл бұрын
And yes that plane is beautiful 😂🍻 just have to sleep 99.9% of the time and you’ll be fine 😂😂😂😂
@j3fron
@j3fron 4 жыл бұрын
end of 737 series...... old design from 70s just like dc 10 death cofin
@GuinessOriginal
@GuinessOriginal 4 жыл бұрын
j3fron designed in the 50s actually. Funnily enough it was the same MD management in charge of the dc10 debacle who headed up the push for the 737 max when they merged with Boeing. Go figure.
@adoreslaurel
@adoreslaurel 4 жыл бұрын
If ever the MAX flies again, it must be full of all the Boeing Executives and their families, If they won't risk it, no one should.
@chipamos
@chipamos 4 жыл бұрын
The public of all nations deserve better.
@TheThisisliving
@TheThisisliving 4 жыл бұрын
I hear them say " Pay us more money or die " The FFA needs to be closed.
@beernpizzalover9035
@beernpizzalover9035 4 жыл бұрын
Not FFA; FAA = Federal Aviation Administration.
@Matt_10203
@Matt_10203 4 жыл бұрын
@Sasha R FFA isn't the FAA you clown.
@mateuszzimon8216
@mateuszzimon8216 4 жыл бұрын
Boeing sell AoA disagreement software as OPTION, AoA is sensor with fail on Etiopian
@keikeilaroux2023
@keikeilaroux2023 4 жыл бұрын
So sad so tragic Im so sorry for this young man I cryed with him and when he said his wife was his best friend I couldn't stop crying I felt his pain and my heart breaks for him. I wish I could give him a hug. 🙏🙏🙏God bless🙏
@royal1692
@royal1692 4 жыл бұрын
Be strong brother!!!
@maxwellayoo7138
@maxwellayoo7138 4 жыл бұрын
MCAS = Might Crash Anytime Soon😔😔😔
@chaz4609
@chaz4609 4 жыл бұрын
Those plutocratic management running Boeing should be sacked instead of bailing out in Golden parachutes.
@Kitemangek
@Kitemangek 4 жыл бұрын
They knew very well and had been told so, this is murder
@peteryvr3329
@peteryvr3329 4 жыл бұрын
Boeing CEO said in NYC in October 2019, "was pilots overworked in cockpit that caused the crashes"; he is still denying his compsny management fault in 737max. Boeing is paying peanuts to compensate the victims while paying half billion dollars to the "community effected". What an insult to victims !!
@kirilmihaylov1934
@kirilmihaylov1934 4 жыл бұрын
He looks very cocky and arrogant....
@beernpizzalover9035
@beernpizzalover9035 4 жыл бұрын
A lot of Engineers are; they just get more smug when promoted to Management.
@kirilmihaylov1934
@kirilmihaylov1934 4 жыл бұрын
@@beernpizzalover9035 I don't know if he is an engineer at all....
@cosak23
@cosak23 4 жыл бұрын
the stench of greed from the Boeing board will permeate for decades to come !!
@gandalf87264
@gandalf87264 4 жыл бұрын
Keep in mind please that MCAS did exactly what it was supposed to have done. it responded to faulty data from an AOA sensor.
@mooglemy3813
@mooglemy3813 4 жыл бұрын
Would have been nice for pilots to know what they were up against, and what is the faulty whatever? Didn't release any info that may of not helped in the end? Pilots have tried 737 Max in the sim, but couldn't recover the simulated air craft based on the two crashes. So it did what it's supposed to do right cause two crashes and hundred of deaths. Nuff Said!
@gandalf87264
@gandalf87264 4 жыл бұрын
@@mooglemy3813 I was thinking more along the lines of: These are experienced pilots. They are not idiots. If the aircraft keeps trimming down to the point that they can't keep it level or climbing, why didn't they counter trim or hold that trim wheel for deer life if the didn't know how to disable it? Are we getting so reliant on automation that we dare not fight it or disconnect it?
@BTG07
@BTG07 4 жыл бұрын
I can already tell what boeing response to this video. “It’s a vindictive hit piece targeted at boeing just like the 787 video. Our planes are the safest in the world. This is nothing but lies and slander.”
@ConstructiveMinds100
@ConstructiveMinds100 4 жыл бұрын
Big thank you for this Captain for sharing his insight.
@BBaker-fr4op
@BBaker-fr4op 4 жыл бұрын
If it's not Boeing then "I'm going"
@BBaker-fr4op
@BBaker-fr4op 4 жыл бұрын
@Mark James i'm referring to the new max aircraft
@hannesp3493
@hannesp3493 4 жыл бұрын
Mark James ‘Airbus from Brazil’ I assume you mean AF447, which was put down to slow response from pilots to recover from stall. Queens air crash, excessive rudder inputs from pilot (any plane would fail if excess force is used). Habsheim Air Show accident is still disputed between pilot error or computer error. And Qantas 32 was an engine failure, nothing to do with the design of the A380
@hannesp3493
@hannesp3493 4 жыл бұрын
Mark James You can’t just name air crashes in which Airbus’ were involved to back your rhetoric. Face it, Boeing put out a flawed aircraft and didn’t train pilots well enough to deal with it if it goes wrong. Lion Air 610 should’ve been the only accident, but they continued to let the Max 8 fly and just gave a small statement about MCAS before it happened again
@hannesp3493
@hannesp3493 4 жыл бұрын
Mark James Alright mate, first of all. Qantas 32 was caused by a stub oil pipe breaking causing a turbine disc to disintegrate, the engine was a Rolls Royce Trent engine. A380’s with Engine Alliance engine’s were not grounded. This was the fault of Rolls Royce, it had nothing to do with the Airbus A380. Secondly, Habsheim Air Show (which is nowhere near Paris) is still disputed. Either the fly-by-wire system of the plane malfunctioned (of which it is Airbus’ fault) or official reports state that the pilot doing the flyover flew too slow and too close to the ground therefore not having enough time to climb past the trees. So your argument is irrelevant.
@hannesp3493
@hannesp3493 4 жыл бұрын
Mark James Also, my problem isn’t that Boeing made an aircraft that wasn’t airworthy. My problem was that they knew that MCAS system had issues. The FAA knew about it, but still certified the plane to fly. My problem is that after Lion Air 610 crashed, the problem was not resolved. 346 lives lost because of a company prioritising money. Not saying it is wrong, but it becomes wrong when you compromise the safety of innocent lives
@liudmilabrilliantova4191
@liudmilabrilliantova4191 4 жыл бұрын
I always check airplane info before booking any tickets, I will surely not fly on Boeing planes anymore! This company puts profit ahead of human lives.
@denzellucas609
@denzellucas609 3 жыл бұрын
But you can’t check the aircraft type until you finish booking
@kevinanimationsyt2917
@kevinanimationsyt2917 4 жыл бұрын
I'm crying
@tomweaverling1366
@tomweaverling1366 4 жыл бұрын
I feel so terribly bad for that guy who lost his wife. He seems like a good guy. His wife looked absolutely gorgeous and she sounds like she was a very special person. My heart goes out to him and everyone who lost a loved one on them flights.
@EL15E
@EL15E 4 жыл бұрын
Boeing need to take full responsibility for this.
@GuinessOriginal
@GuinessOriginal 4 жыл бұрын
Zoey Green Airlines ́•ω•` they won't. This is corporate America protected by the US government.
@terminator3199
@terminator3199 4 жыл бұрын
737 MAX should be Air Force 1 from now !
@jonnynevada8915
@jonnynevada8915 4 жыл бұрын
I feel so bad for this man,, so young , with a child and you lose your loving Wife,, thats so horrible... Bless him ....
@TinLeadHammer
@TinLeadHammer 4 жыл бұрын
Nothing was said about the stab trim cutoff switches, which were re-wired compared to the NG. If they were flying the NG, they would be able to turn off STS/autopilot and re-trim with electric trim. On the Max they were robbed of the option to turn off STS/MCAS/autopilot while keeping the electric trim. Unless Boeing re-wires stab trim cutoff switches to the NG configuration, the Max will remain inherently less safe aircraft compared to the NG.
@lavidaesbella559
@lavidaesbella559 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry for your lost bro RIP 🙏
@monibstar
@monibstar 4 жыл бұрын
Rest In Peace 🙏
@physicsonline8853
@physicsonline8853 4 жыл бұрын
Kudos for a very thought-provoking analysis.Big bucksan and does kill to protect its markets.I hope there's no hurry to get these planes back into the air.
@wheresheilatravels9094
@wheresheilatravels9094 4 жыл бұрын
It is so sad knowing that cutting a cost and a competition at the expense of losing lives... I am heartbroken to those who perished and their families that are still grieving today,...
@salmanafro271
@salmanafro271 4 жыл бұрын
So sad
@bbmpalace9648
@bbmpalace9648 4 жыл бұрын
When it’s BOEING, I’m not GOING.. because BOEING’s company vision is that WHAT comes UP, must CRASH DOWN..
@prelude12341
@prelude12341 4 жыл бұрын
good engwish...
@williambonsor3915
@williambonsor3915 4 жыл бұрын
I will near trust the 737 max
@rodolfoayalajr.8589
@rodolfoayalajr.8589 4 жыл бұрын
Rip God bless you and your family Amen 🙏🏻.
@edstanton1997
@edstanton1997 4 жыл бұрын
New planes relies on the computer to fly the plane, The old planes with a engineer in the cockpit cutting down the work load of the pilots to just flying the plane, Passengers trust the pilot not a computer.
@jacobwarren7876
@jacobwarren7876 4 жыл бұрын
I feel his pain my mom died suddenly and it really destroyed me I’m still recovering from it
@kirkykyle2144
@kirkykyle2144 3 жыл бұрын
Heartbroken...
@bluewaves_8
@bluewaves_8 4 жыл бұрын
Greed that killed all these innocent people. Allah rest their souls in peace.
@atari7001
@atari7001 4 жыл бұрын
Apparently we should switch to non-greedy Arab built airplanes?
@vidyasagar6155
@vidyasagar6155 4 жыл бұрын
LOL. Go watch David Woods in youtube and know who your allah really is.
@Billhatestheinternet
@Billhatestheinternet 4 жыл бұрын
Poor chap, totally devastated by the loss of his wife, who, by the pics, quite literally was his queen. Can't imagine the kid.
@levisfemon
@levisfemon 4 жыл бұрын
Also not to mention greedy is the main reason. Those greedy cause people kill and it's not just on the aviation it's in every industry.
@izumi6704
@izumi6704 4 жыл бұрын
Instead of all the nonsense promotion videos, all aircraft companies should play interviews of the victim families in the factory.
@theresaann7388
@theresaann7388 Ай бұрын
Your son looks so darling.. I really can't imagine the pain you are going through right now.. And I'm sure it seems like it will never end.. Don't worry about being both the mother and the father. Just do the best job you can do, and it will all work out.. You're God well watch over you and your child, As I am sure your wife Well. My prayers are with you and your child., God bless. Teresa. From jackson, Michigan.
@saqibmudabbar
@saqibmudabbar 4 жыл бұрын
Aircrafts should go through certifications in every country before they fly from or over that country.
@GuinessOriginal
@GuinessOriginal 4 жыл бұрын
Planes & Planes 飞机 this one will probably have to, if it ever flies as a commercial passenger jet again. It'll pendent end up the same way as the dc10 and be converted to freight haulage. No one cares if a freight plane crashes.
@Matt_10203
@Matt_10203 4 жыл бұрын
@@GuinessOriginal it's going to be flying by the end of the year.
@GuinessOriginal
@GuinessOriginal 4 жыл бұрын
Matt ha ha ha which year? And where?
@mateuszzimon8216
@mateuszzimon8216 4 жыл бұрын
@@Matt_10203 PLL LOT order ACMI to March 2020.... This is a "happy evaluation", they think Europeian Vacation season 2020 it's possible to get 787-8200 to fly again
@LightRealms
@LightRealms 4 жыл бұрын
1:30 DC-10: Am I a joke to you?
@singhrajput6287
@singhrajput6287 4 жыл бұрын
5.25child coming im so sad this child so unlucky who lost his mother without mother how can child survive oh god so sad
@lastella1994
@lastella1994 4 жыл бұрын
This came on my phone a day after the helicopter crash that happened on the 26th of January 2020 RIP 💔.I pray that God will strengthen all those who have lost their loved ones.
@eddyshluger9332
@eddyshluger9332 4 жыл бұрын
Bonuses for the Boeing top management are much more important than human lives.
@InFltSvc
@InFltSvc 4 жыл бұрын
And now we found out on Oct 18th 2019 that a Boeing employe lied to the FAA. They found a simple text message that proved it and the stock plummeted $25 US dollars. TO ALL THE FAMILIES that suffer this terrible pain, I want you to know as former Flight Attendant here in the US that I truly understand this pain of how you lost your loved ones. I lost my baby brother in a terrible accident and I am so very sorry for all of you. I have no advise for you but I can tell you how it is for me, I lost my brother two years ago and while you do move on, it never , at least for me , really goes away. For me, when he pops into my mind, daily , my heart hurts and I always question why? And then I see him and the times we spent together and I move on. I found that those times get smaller but I never forget him and it never stops and in the end, I feel like a part of me has been taken from me. I suppose this is how it will always be and I will never have the answers why God took him and that one day I will see him again. FOR ALL OF YOU! I would say , greave in your own way and don’t let anyone tell you how you should act, feel or do! You must take this at your own time and your own pace. Heal in your own way. All my love!. God bless!
@Matt_10203
@Matt_10203 4 жыл бұрын
Boeing's stock didn't drop to 25 dollars.
@InFltSvc
@InFltSvc 4 жыл бұрын
Matt It DROPPED .. $25 that day. I did not say the stock was $25... the market goes up and down every day.
@falkenvir
@falkenvir 4 жыл бұрын
Boeing: "Lets fix design flaw with a software"
@mendysoyaphi6906
@mendysoyaphi6906 4 жыл бұрын
Every painful may their souls continue to RIP
@desalegnabo9347
@desalegnabo9347 4 жыл бұрын
RIP
@kctoh2008
@kctoh2008 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry I think we are confusing two issues. Firstly that mounting the engines fore and higher would change flight characteristics enough to require new type approval. MCAS was built to obviate this need. It would take care of moments about the pitch axis over different thrust situations. Secondly that it would detect stall situations AND SEIZE CONTROL FROM PILOTS. I do not believe that the second specification was put to the FAA and was approved by the FAA. In any case pilots were not trained on this second function of MCAS. The Lion Air pilot asked the FO for Memory Action for such an emergency. There was none. The sickening thought is that MCAS decided that both aircraft were stalling and nosed them downward until "contact with terrain." But flight deck did not agree that they were stalling. They have their airmanship behind them. They relied on time-tested instrumentation -- altimeter, artificial horizon and other attitude indicators, airspeed, rate of climb and descent and they agreed with Ground Proximity warnings not to sink and to pull up. Based on all that they fought with MCAS but MCAS prevailed, relying only on Angle of Attack sensors and the planes crashed. The questions are 1) were these MCAS specs presented and 2) who approved them.
@liibaanxuseen8563
@liibaanxuseen8563 4 жыл бұрын
all those deaths could have been avoided !!!!
@chrissinclair3139
@chrissinclair3139 4 жыл бұрын
Schedule before Safety
@focus678
@focus678 4 жыл бұрын
VICTIMS' FAMILY.... you guys need to sue Boeing for this disaster.
@RoodeMenon
@RoodeMenon 4 жыл бұрын
I think its over for the old 737. Modifications wont do anymore, A complete redesign is needed for large high bypass engines and wider body.
@SilverWalker84
@SilverWalker84 3 жыл бұрын
I'd rather get my face bitten off by a shark than perish in a plane crash. Rest in Peace to anyone involved in these and other aviation tragedies.
@adventurewithkids
@adventurewithkids 4 жыл бұрын
Sickening corporate cartels. Al Jazeera had posted a video 5 years ago about investigating Boeing which was ridicule back then. I would recommend people watch that too..
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