WiseEndro333 Good job, Wukong.

WiseEndro333 lol

+WiseEndro333 in game is called cryokinetick blue pyrokinetic one , and pyrokinetic fire projectile

And a singing AI

I think you mean midwives....

There was that intro scene at the beginning where you saw a few corridors through security cameras and watched a woman huddling in a corner - and then some huge, hulking thing ran towards her before the view cut away. So when I finally managed to open that door leading from the intro area to the med/sci section, I hesitated and really didn't want to go, because I recognized those corridors. There was some big, hulking thing out there and all I had was a wrench. But then I walked through the door, the music started and I got attacked by the first mutant, almost giving me a heart attack. Ah, memories...

That's ONE way to get a tutorial across.

I just said "much obliged" as I bashed his face in with my wrench

A reminder that although this does happen, that area in the intro is actually really safe throughout the whole game. Great storage/hub area, especially in multiplayer

Yes, also love how people state the obvious.

Well but hey, you got a wrench? :) lol

There isn't an inherent horror theme to SS2. It isn't a horror game. It just has spooky elements. It's an first person action rpg dungeon crawler. That's why the song was chosen. Bioshock isn't a horror game either. Just because there are spooky elements in a game doesn't make it a horror game or even horror themed. By that argument, Dead Space would be an action game with a few horror elements. It's not. It's a horror game with action elements. The same could be argued of Half life 1 and 2. It would be a "horror game" due to the presence of horror elements despite being first person shooters exclusively. I don't blame people for being confused. They got spooked by the low poly mutants, and they were given erroneous first impressions. But this song is meant to be a blood pumping action theme for smacking mutants and psychic monkeys with your wrench, but the intro gave people the wrong impression. Hell, Bioshock leaned even harder into the "boo, scary" boogery, and it's the same kind of game as System Shock 2.

@@BigPuddin You make a good point that the game is mechanically a dungeon crawler. And horror is certainly a loose & subjective genre, sure. However, I would argue that horror as a concept was still a key factor in the game itself. It's a key component of the game's tone and atmosphere. At the start, it might have started out as a cyberpunk romp with a sense of urgency--much like System Shock 1. However, I feel that the horror elements are too blended into the core game's theme & atmosphere, for them to not be integral parts. It walks a fine line--similar to, say, Diablo 1. I know a lot of people go into it with the expectation of Silent Hill, and get thrown off by the techno. But I don't think the techno nor the dread should be dismissed.

@@BigPuddin I agree, if you only knew the only extent of your abilities, it would be a walk in the park. But you don't know, it is revealed to you, slowly in the progress of the game, and only in the pinnacle of the final fight, you will know that the extent of your abilities is infinite. Until then, it is a game of horror

@@mikakeinanen8382 No, man, it quite literally ISN'T classified as a horror game. It's not a subjective issue of "oh, it's scary when you're weak but strong it isn't." It's objectively not a horror game. It isn't classified as such. It never was. It has scary stuff, but it isn't a horror game.

Try playing uplink with this. Shit just got real m8.

crazydiscord For fuck sake dude!!!

* parents aren't home so you start typing in pornhub really fast *

Lol same here

Look at you, hacker

And then the infected reprogram another AI

Shodan wasn't affected by a bug. Her ethical programming was disabled by the hacker under direction from Diego, who wanted more control over her to enrich himself. And just like Skynet, she quickly determined humans were inferior and should be wiped out in favor of it (her) controlling the world.

I've seen you somewhere.

engineering

Yes, he has a pony profile pic, so he must automatically masturbate to them, let's all gang up on him for liking something.

I also think most people have no idea what you're talking about.

Reviire there's always that one.

Is it the little "tss"?

@@yo10057 Yeah that's it

nice XD

That's adorable

That's how you can tell he got immersed:D I hope the body horror didn't mess with his child mind though...

Industrial, bass and drum, electronic, I feel like music that was popping in the early 2000s just fell off. We need to do a major culling of all the normals in this world if we want cool shit to survive.

Please elaborate. First time I hear about the story.

@@justanotherarchive6599 First game apparently had this multivariable contextual music engine thingy but literally nobody noticed it.

@@cooldud7071 big agree

@@bajsbrev4651 Even after my 3rd-4th playthrough I'm discovering new variants of the basic songs (low health + near boss/high danger + in combat/enemies nearby). It's mostly thanks to the higher difficulty and frequency of hard-hitting enemies. Kind of a shame SS2 didn't have such music design, but the soundtracks are still great.

UUuuuurrrrrghhh! KILL ME!!! *got smashed by a wrench* Urrraaggghhh... xP

@everyone

Thanks for reminding me

Care to elaborate on how it's hilarious? I don't see how it's humourous.

@@666chapelofblood different tones. Med Sci 1 is more: FUCK YEAH LET'S GET HIGH AND FIGHT! and Med Sci 2 is more a classic sci-fi horror track.

@@gobomania Wow, comedy gold. I'm going to laugh at every drastic contrast from now on.

Very amusing :)

@@666chapelofblood You don't need to write anything in the comments if you don't find something funny. You don't need to be an asshole about it, your 2 previous comments told that already for us.

@Channel07 If you think ammo is scarce in Fallout 4 or 76, then you have never played System Shock 2 lol

straight up sprinting through the body of the many ngl, i was basically out of ammo for that ending segment of the game. Especially bad on a non psi build (first playthrough)

I mean they're different genres, System shock is a survival horror rpg, fallout is a sandbox rpg, so they're gonna be different

theres ammo in this game?

By the end of SS2 I had over 30 normal rounds for the grenade launcher... I beat the final boss in about 20 seconds

+coolcat001100 only if they dumbed it down HARD like bioshock infinite

+coolcat001100 The rights to the System Shock franchise are currently owned by the Meadowbrook Insurance Group.

+James Stone actually Night Dive Studios owns shock now

+Arbiter099 I was under the impression that Night Dive merely owned the right to digitally distribute System Shock 2, and not the rights to the intellectual property as a whole. However, you appear to be right. Night Dive also own the rights to Powerslave and plan on re-releasing an updated version of that as well. I look forward to see what they do with it.

Well they are remaking System Shock one with System Shocks concept artist Robert Waters.

couldn't agree more

And just like many other older games, it feels like it's often overlooked due to its dated graphics, when those have little to no bearing on the story...and that is precisely why I will always stick to older games. Newer titles, with very few exceptions, just feel hollow and add tons of bloat to your hard drive (and nothing to your life or understanding of the world at large).

Your opinion was very clear and easy to understand and i agree with you with everythin you said. A lot of old games prove that graphics arent everyting! Wouldnt you agree?

marko simunic Definitely! But I guess it isn't the graphical quality that is important but the style of art, story and the soundtrack compatibility. Many games have kind of screwed up by putting different feelings into different parts of the game. What would you think about a protagonist whose wife has been killed and he is searching for the killer from the magical rainbow land where dubstep is playing in the background? Creating a correct atmosphere isn't a lost art but it is very rare these days.

Valtremors And the gameplay! Lets not forget about the gameplay!

marko simunic That is a thing I often forget to mention. Gameplay is rather complicated thing... for some games very simplistic type works very well, some games have very absurd gameplay and there are also those which combine other types to create something new. Probably the hardest thing to nail properly in these days since it is extremely hard to come up with something fresh, new and practical.

ss2 scariness can be explained as paranoia type of fear. Wandering slowly,carefully, trough this long, dimly lighted and dark spooky hallways for hours, constantly turning around to check behind, fearing that danger can come at any moment at random, exposed to constant state of pressure and tension...a person's nerves can take only so much....until he runs into something nasty and loses it... And in hes panic tries to shoot it just to realize hes gun has jammed :)

Is there another?

THANK YOU FOR CHOOSING _VALUE-REP_ :- )

@@peppermillers8361 She's just so bubbly...so enthusiastic.

Wait, where can you buy the glow sticks?

@@kasane1337 Nowhere.

@@Ragitsu What a shame :(

And then you had 6 more hybrids on your back in no time :D

Sprint past? What are you? A peace loving hippie? You spring TOWARDS them with a wrench and introduce their grey matter to the Med Sci deck.

​​@@BigPuddin There is a difference between bravery and foolishness.

​@@BigPuddin idk sometimes I feel equally as powerful when I sprint by with this music lol it's like I'm fast as fuck and they aren't even worth my time and can't stop me from getting what I need in the area.

@@raviponso3887 Naw he's playing it right. Can confirm, that's how I beat med-sci.

Holy shelter, i listened this while playing Surface Tension level. FRICKING GOOD.

Good to read that. Because i can't hear you.

***** I tried it.....Wasn't disappointed xD

which level/scene?

never mind. tried at the very opening of the chapter. by the time this music wore off, the games music had already kicked in, and transitioned quite well, too.

hahaha i can kinda hear that too

It does have that kinda badass tone to it.

A closer semblance to Hal would be Xerxes then? (I haven't seen it, but the description sounds a bit like Xerxes.

Joshua Day Oh, very much so. XERXES and HAL are both victims of their programming, which allows them no choice but to kill the crew. The difference being HAL was just programmed poorly, while the Many actively mucked with XERXES' programming. All the more interesting that a lot of XERXES' messages (poetry reading, happy holiday season, etc.) make it seem like he doesn't comprehend what's going on at all, or that anything's changed in the slightest.

Not related to the story of it or anything, but the great Stephen Russell did an amazing job with Xerxes. Haunting, yet subtle. Perfectly complimented the subtlety of the Many's effects on Xerxes.

Bek359 Are you sure HAL had no emotions at all? If I recall correctly, HAL killed the crew, because he felt bad or something for having lied to them. Also HAL says flat out,"I'm afraid", when Dave is deactivating him. HAL was programmed poorly? That is not right at all. The HAL9000 series had 0% failure rate. Wouldn't make sense to send a poorly programmed AI on a lengthy, risky mission through space. However, you are right in that SHODAN shouldn't be compared to HAL.

It's not that he felt bad about it, it's that he encountered a logic error. He was instructed to conceal the existence of the monolith from the crew by the powers that be. This conflicted badly with a lot of his other programming; he wasn't built to be deceptive. At all. He eventually resolved this conflict by deciding that if there was nobody to keep the secret from, he wouldn't have to keep the secret that he was incapable of keeping by nature.

HAAAAAAALY SHIET!

As a HUGE fan I don't think that is such a great idea. I highly doubt that in mainstream gaming of today, they can make something worth of "System Shock" name. But let's wait and see.

L0vac well Nightdive studios is remaking System Shock 1 so there must be some interest.

Oh come on, anything can get popular no matter how old enough with proper marketing and luck. Bethesda just took Prey's name and slapped it on a different game and it became a smash hit. System Shock 3 can make waves.

Ya I know, but first they're gonna remake the first one and possibly the second one, then they will make a third.

Had I not read about the game long before I finally played it, I would've never figured it out myself there. I remember there was another log where Polito finally realizes that SHODAN was manipulating her but it was already too late.

SHODAN!Polito talking smack while you run around to rave music is one of the most surreal moments a gamer will ever experience.

Although I'm 9 months late, tell me when you've finished it and what you thought of it.

Played it, loved it and I wish there was an worthy sequel. I like the Bioshock games, but they're too damn easy compared to this... what the hell happened?

robotcow28 Personally, I believe that when they chose consoles as the main platform, they simplified it for the consoles.

It's really more of a sci-fi action adventure with some horror elements.

@Brupcat From the start i was really confused what to do thing like zombies just freaked me out for some reason.

bioshock is not system shock. bioshock was boring, system shock was cool and scary.

As what I heard SS2 license is being held in limbo somewhere in archives of insurance company.

its possible we will never see a system shock 3. but I hope we do.

I would the best that i can to make a system shock 3 with the help of people

id quite like to see the developers of dead space (the first one) on system shock 3.

Please do finish the first game! It's bloody awesome!! :)

SS1 has awesome music as well. Check out level R. ;) Don't thank me because you will die a lot there...

I have a hard time with System Shock 1 the controlls are just very bad.

I don't agree with your usage of the word 'bad' here... outdated, perhaps, best explains the controls! :)

Da666ManIsBak Bad is not the right word, outdated and weird yes. I got so much trouble with these controlls.

I'm 9 years late but I hope you did end up playing it :)