What technical tips have helped you increase your overhead press? Also I'm running a pressing clinic at the gym August 24th for those interested! Small group and vert affordable (link in description)
@greghood15525 жыл бұрын
The 2 things that really helped me 1. Don't focus on leaning back. Focus on pushing your hips forward. It makes you lean back and keep the bar over mid foot. 2. Try to press the bar behind you. I don't have the shoulder mobility to actually do that, but trying to put it behind me keeps my path vertical. YMMV.
@xw25425 жыл бұрын
The biggest ones are putting my triceps on my lats, squeeze the bar as hard as possible, and the narrower grip.
@joeymichael22315 жыл бұрын
Squeezing my glutes was the biggest game changer for me. Felt like it made the biggest change with my technique.
@demitrichali6675 жыл бұрын
I knew all of that already ok but it doesn't help me get stronger or gain strength
@williammclean40805 жыл бұрын
technically it might not be a strict press, but bending the knees without using them to drive up the press, is a technique i am experimenting with.
@quinaIMF5 жыл бұрын
1. Wider Feet 2. Narrower Grip 3. Don't breath during rep. Only breath at the top or at the end. 4. Slight lean backward 5. Press up, not forward. Bar path should go straight up.
@jesussandoval8756 Жыл бұрын
Another crucial thing to remember is to also build a strong bench press. People that you see that are pressing 225 lbs over their head are people who are benching somewhere in the mid to high 300 lbs. As soon as I improved my bench press, my overhead followed.
@mr.r2665 Жыл бұрын
@@jesussandoval8756 does flat bench press affect shoulder press or only incline bench does?
@V1X05 жыл бұрын
Thanks for having some tempo in the video! Some youtubers would have this video 20 minutes long.
@Jobrown3912 жыл бұрын
100%
@EnhancedChimpАй бұрын
*cough* Alex Bromley *cough*
@sepulfan025 жыл бұрын
The ohp has become my fav lift cant help but feel strong lifting big weight overhead. Due to my physical job and previous rotator cuff injuries these instructional videos are extremely helpful thanks
@kar3n355 жыл бұрын
One of the best exercises ever. Just don't start to heavy in the beginning to get the form right. And increase gradually over time. Best ever
@VanishMe5 жыл бұрын
Make sure to lean back with your thoracic spine and not the lower back! If you lean with your lower back that can lead to nasty injuries, especially if you go heavy. Just keep the core braced and flex glutes as hard as you can. What also helped me to get a stronger OHP is a push press. Have a day where you go heavier than usual but you do a push press with a controlled negative. You're stronger on the negative. Keep that up for a while and your strict press WILL go up.
@peeps2115 жыл бұрын
I tweaked my back a couple of years ago when I bent incorrectly, I was really struggling with the weight, but pushed through the longest rep of my life. I felt that tweak EVERY time I overhead pressed for MONTHS. Right in my lower back. So I would say this is good advice...
@alannahalannah28735 жыл бұрын
I say ohp everyday if thats what you want to get better at. Bulgarian method has been working for me. Learned from Eric bugenhagen. In my opinion, youre less likely to be injured if your body is very familiar and comfortable with the movement. (As long as good form is being used)
@thegreatguy63405 жыл бұрын
Good points. But I disagree with the fact push press is going to improve your strict press. Your quads take most of the load at the beginning at the lift on the push press which is for most people the hardest part of the lift for most people. Shoulders aren't as strong as legs so doesn't really take most the load and doesn't develop them. Dont get me wrong if you add 50 pounds on your push press then there's going to be some form of carry over. But me personally think the standard ohp is the best way to increase it with high frequency. Once you get more advanced.. Dumbell press, z press with barbell/DB, and vary grips and alternative between paused and touch and go
@glumberty15 жыл бұрын
@@thegreatguy6340 The push press helps not by the concentric portion of the lift, but by the eccentric portion. It allows you to lower more weight than you'd be able to doing a strict press.
@myrongaines60224 жыл бұрын
@@thegreatguy6340 Which is why he said to do a controlled negative, actively resisting the eccentric part of the movement will expose your pressing muscles to heavier weight without actually forcing them to press weight they're not comfortable with. That's not to say you should load up your bench max and go to town, but a little heavier than what you normally do.
@jigginjohnson28935 жыл бұрын
The tip on breathing really stood out for me here. I’m used to breathing through my various presses. But in the case of OHP, you are spot on. Don’t breathe through the press.
@fredc19325 жыл бұрын
Dude 27k subscribers!? I feel like it was yesterday that it was 3k, hell yea
@SzatStrength5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the support!!! Need to keep growing!
@juansuarez7242Ай бұрын
I instantly added 20 lbs to my press. Might not seem like much, but for someone who plateaued at the same weight for so long, it goes a long way. My grip was too wide and was breathing queue was off. Super grateful 🙌
@davenportbarbell7345 жыл бұрын
Dude I love how you don’t have a lame ass salesman personality it’s a breathe of fresh air plus great content!
@Dave-ii4jh5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Coach. I literally asked for this video yesterday😁. I had open heart surgery in July of 2013 and thought I was done lifting forever. I started lifting again last October and my best strict press is 185x5. I train with 531
@SzatStrength5 жыл бұрын
Awesome!! Thanks for watching
@JesseGilbride5 жыл бұрын
Best tips that helped with my OHP: (1) lock the legs, hips, and core to prevent energy leaks, and (2) grip the bar really hard, harder than necessary to just hold it.
@FacePullTiToX5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, Jessie. The grip is a game changer. Otherwise you are leaving some pounds off the table
@chrism31982 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the advice Jesse. I'll have to try this the next time I'm doing OHP.
@Jeckaa845 жыл бұрын
So i commented below about my weak ohp of 47.5 kg. I implemented your tips today and 50 kg 5x5 was completly doable. I even had a bit left in the tank but thats for the next session. Tnx a lot!! ( main problem i guess was my grip. I had it the same as my bench grip which is just to wide ).
@ignaciob5203Ай бұрын
Great tips. As a small dude (120 pounds) who doesn’t have lots of experience training shoulders I’m stuck with the puny weight of 90 pounds for 2 to 4 reps but I can’t go any heavier than that.
@kevinreil41425 жыл бұрын
One lift that needs the most improvement for me is overhead pressing. Tips 2-5 were my biggest errors. Thanks.
@sickcunt06925 жыл бұрын
To the point and good advice, great content. What helped me the most to be able to press more is to squeeze my glutes during the lift
@SzatStrength5 жыл бұрын
That is a solid cue to remember!
@chrisweidner47682 ай бұрын
Outstanding. Saved. All the best. Always.
@sharond7015 жыл бұрын
This is helpful. Thank you for sharing.
@beefcurry7285 жыл бұрын
Preciate the breathing tips from 2:50 - 3:30 , almost passed out other day doing strict press
@SzatStrength5 жыл бұрын
Awesome hope it helped!
@jasontatume13725 жыл бұрын
flex abs and glutes
@jakubsosnowski19252 жыл бұрын
Thanks Joey, hopefully i can get that elusive 80kg x5, next max day
@theeternalgus91192 жыл бұрын
I vow to OHP 70kg by mid next year. It may not be much for some but I'm so weak at this lift.
@ToDieToSleep-fn4sk5 жыл бұрын
Nice video first time seeing your channel
@LiamDrives5 жыл бұрын
Great video, this is one of my favourite exercises
@FacePullTiToX5 жыл бұрын
For me too. The OHP looks bad ass and makes you feel like a beast
@guychapman67973 жыл бұрын
Came to check out the channel after watching the video with Juji over on his channel - super glad I did! Liked and subscribed 👌
@milenpenev13628 ай бұрын
Very good no bullshit video.
@lizzerdlegz27325 жыл бұрын
Totally ganna try the breathing. Great tips
@Bastinini5 жыл бұрын
Maaaaan you gotta love him and the support of his friends businesses! Gets BB package one day and wears it on video the next! Great stuff
@SzatStrength5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the support! I support those who support me :)
@Mrskittles5355 жыл бұрын
VERY cool video in terms of production and content. Making big moves coach joe!
@blizzake21055 ай бұрын
Kept it to the point thanks man
@Poli5h5au5age5 жыл бұрын
Your the man Joey! Great tips buddy! Keep up the good work! 👍
@SzatStrength5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching!
@lastsonofkrypton39184 жыл бұрын
Press day. Thanks for the reminders on these cues!
@Y2RAV5 жыл бұрын
Great video bro thanks for the tips!
@myrongaines60224 жыл бұрын
Another tip that helped me is slightly rotating the feet and flexing your hip abductors, it really helps for a stronger base.
@obits35 жыл бұрын
Regarding the lean, yours seems to be a lean generated from the mid section, but the starting strength lean is a pivot from the hips. Using a lean from the mid section moves your vertebrae under load, but a pivot from the hip doesn’t introduce this risk. Just something to think about.
@kevmoho5 жыл бұрын
Boom! Loving the content brother 🦁
@SolRose55 жыл бұрын
I see that Barbell Brigade shirt haha 🔥 Great content man !
@maartincho885 жыл бұрын
awesome video bro! i think you should do one for jerk variatios for weigthlifting and strongman i would aprecciate it so much saludos desde chile!
@SzatStrength5 жыл бұрын
I’ve don’t many jerk tutorials just look up “Joey Szatmary jerk” or Joey Szatmary strongman press”
@abiriax2 жыл бұрын
excellent work mate!
@holtszom3746 Жыл бұрын
sometimes i have a problem when lifting heavy (starting at about 85% of 1RM) i tend to almost "blackout", feel dizzy and some sort of headache maybe ill switch to seated OHP altough the standing one has propably more benefits but fearing to collapse after a heavy set isn´t really what i consider fun lifting
@Jeckaa845 жыл бұрын
I just started 5x5 and i noticed that i'm weak af lol! Stuck on 50 kg already. I'm way stronger in squating (140)and deadlifting (150) both not even close on plateauing. Cant even do 1 proper pull up as well so talking about being imbalanced i guess. Anyway, tnx for the video man! Ill implement this in my ohp.
@FacePullTiToX5 жыл бұрын
Hi NickyB! Don't despair. It usually takes a lot longer to make progress on the OHP. Keep doing it though. It's a great exercise that will build your upper body like crazy. Let's get them gains!
@Jeckaa845 жыл бұрын
@@FacePullTiToX hehe, tnx for the comment man! Lets keep going!
@Wazgrel5 жыл бұрын
great tips man! thank you!
@SzatStrength5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@Jackmerius_Tacktheritrix57335 жыл бұрын
More narrower?
@scott-richardson Жыл бұрын
Interesting. As a CF coach, we’ve always tended towards not leaning back and instead keeping that rub cage down and strong lumbar support. I guess there’s lean and too much lean that it affects your lumbar. Some people take it too far and end up incline benching!
@plantybara5 жыл бұрын
Wow you're a freak of nature. - Kinobody
@melihdd63143 жыл бұрын
Thanks man.
@monsantofungaro57045 жыл бұрын
Great video, great press, and a great luxurious head of hair! You the man! Thanks for everything coach, these tips really help.
@JADISTIC_5 жыл бұрын
The biggest thing for me was leaning with a straight lower back engaging the glutes and abs
@pm1465 жыл бұрын
Feet together is a military press
@Uberrheogenic5 жыл бұрын
Thanks and subscribed!
@aron94575 жыл бұрын
Why do you dip the bar before every rep? How can you call that strict
@FacePullTiToX5 жыл бұрын
I personally dislike that style, but his goals are in line with the Strongman competition, which is to press as much weight as possible over your head. The little dip gives you some momentum and allows you to OHP a weight that you wouldn't be able to lift otherwise. This is great to overload your triceps, which is the muscle group responsible for the lock out portion of the lift. If your goal is to target the musculature of your shoulders though, I would avoid that little dip for sure.
@myrongaines60224 жыл бұрын
It's strict because he's not using his legs in the movement, which is the definition of a strict press. If your goal is simply increasing the strength of your press, a slight dip to get some momentum and increase stretch reflex is fine.
@abcdLeeXY5 жыл бұрын
Jeff really needs to learn how to make a 5 min video instead of GoT episodes
@duckbread82355 жыл бұрын
abcdLeeXY That’s why I don’t watch his videos, he drags on and takes too long to reach the point.
@myrongaines60224 жыл бұрын
Which Jeff? There's a lot of them at this point.
@Overfl00d2 жыл бұрын
Look at Starting Strength video on over head press. He has a good tip on grip. I think your grip isn't good on this one. You want to slightly point your thumbs down so the bars weight is transferred directly to forearm, not bending wrists down.
@stefantanase51025 жыл бұрын
Power!
@SzatStrength5 жыл бұрын
Yesssss
@bighondro90605 жыл бұрын
I liked this video for the simple fact that you’re wearing a barbell brigade
@wildjames5 жыл бұрын
Hey dude, caught you off Alan's channel. Great vid, one of my fav lifts so enjoy the reminders on how to do it properly. Cheers and subbed. Looking forward to seeing your channel grow. You seem like a really cool guy.
@SzatStrength5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for coming over and supporting the channel!
@justtango47412 ай бұрын
Are back muscles worked during this movement? I knew you got some upper trap activation at the very top but isn't that it?
@anthonykelly66195 жыл бұрын
Great video, you addressed an issue I didn't know I had, my grip was too wide, it feels strange at first, but my arms now naturally want to come forward now instead of out as I press and its added some kgs to my Press. Cheers!
@danielguerguerian35435 жыл бұрын
Great Video! So you are using the more narrow grip width just for strict presses right? Push-Presses and Jerks still require a wider grip because of the clean Position which you are starting from. But Shouldn't you try to have the same grip width on all overhead movements to have more joint angle specificity? I'm getting started in weightlifting and everybody seems to even start their strict presses from the clean Position, the bar resting on the shoulders which means with a wider grip. Should I do my strict presses with a narrow grip and without the clean Position Start or keep on pressing from the shoulder rack Position with a wider grip?
@SzatStrength5 жыл бұрын
My grips the same for everything besides probably a split jerk is a little wider
@Gobbygoblin5 жыл бұрын
you just earned a sub
@somsem94297 ай бұрын
Thanks for the advice dude!!
@bigdaddytrips61975 жыл бұрын
I get a bigger press with a more narrow stance
@cristinasarsama41142 жыл бұрын
What is the difference between an over head press and military press, they look the same to me and I can see the difference. Help me please.
@farringdons5 жыл бұрын
Nice channel
@logand59965 жыл бұрын
Can you make a pressing vid like this for circus dbell/log/axle and compare push press to push jerk? I started training strongman about 10 months ago. It's hard to find a lot of good technique videos so it's been kind of a self taught learning process. Having a basic direction to go would help a lot.
@healthystrong16 ай бұрын
Hey, what do you think about pressing with fat gripz? It feels good for me
@kevin_rsg_185 жыл бұрын
Can you explain the grip width a little more? I understand having stacked joints is good and too wide is bad. How do you find that sweet spot? In your example of bad form it looked like your forearms were vertical and stacked and I didn’t even realize it was “bad form” until you went even narrower
@FacePullTiToX5 жыл бұрын
Look up the concept of "scapular angle". For me the sweet spot shoulderwidth with a bulldog grip and super engaged lads. I hope that helps you make more OHP gainzzz
@frograna2 Жыл бұрын
Been trying to get up to my bw in ohp but been stuck at around 140 hopefully this helps. Doesn't help that i constantly change my grip 🤦🏽♂️
@TerrariaiOSTAIOS5 жыл бұрын
should you touch your chest with the bar?
@FacePullTiToX5 жыл бұрын
That's a great question. It depends. You may have to do it if the rules of a competition says that you have to. You can be more flexible during your training though. I always make sure the bar touches my chest if only to allow the bar to across the full range of motion. I hope this helps, Sejin
@TerrariaiOSTAIOS5 жыл бұрын
@@FacePullTiToX thank you so much!
@NewMusicWeekly5 жыл бұрын
What about a split stance to protect the back from the tendency to lean back too far? Or is that getting away from strictness by also allowing a bit of spring in the legs? A split stance is recommended when overhead pressing in BodyPump classes, where the bar weight is only 10-20kg, but is repped to fatigue.
@lb49415 жыл бұрын
What is your favourite flavour of popcicle, and you can’t say rockets, go
@lmc49643 жыл бұрын
what is the "physics" behind letting the bar drop before you shoot it up? some kind of spring effect?
@jakecamacho53015 жыл бұрын
Need a gif of that creepy yes stare like yesterday. 🤣🤣🤣
@Xoramung5 жыл бұрын
did you say cojo here? or coa joe?
@isaiasxd44535 жыл бұрын
🐯good job
@miafranco78213 ай бұрын
this isnt hasan abi?
@Morrigan0706715 жыл бұрын
Where is the Lion's Den, geographically?
@JesseGilbride5 жыл бұрын
My ideal grip width is one of those things I'm not sure of. I know a lifter is most efficient when the wrists are stacked directly over elbows in the bottom position, but feels like I could achieve that within a range of grips (up to a point). Maybe aim for a 45° angle of the humerus at the bottom and place hands accordingly?
@BigUriel5 жыл бұрын
That's true ideal grip is a subjective thing and lots of people press very efficiently with wider grip than that. You just have to adjust elbow position accordingly so forearms remain vertical, if you grip wider your elbows will have to be further out to your sides. There are pros and cons I don't buy the ideology that presses should be done at shoulder width or just outside that. The same exact arguments for that could be made for the bench press (load closer to body/shorter lever relative to torso muscles) and nobody bench presses the most they can with a close grip, because it also maximizes the distance the weight has to travel and lever for the triceps - there are no free lunches when you make it easier for the shoulder you make it harder for the arms and vice versa, it's all about finding that sweet spot which will be highly individual.
@safaabdus83645 жыл бұрын
For a second i thought this was a buff dudes video
@FacePullTiToX5 жыл бұрын
The dude is definitely thic as an oak
@03blaird5 жыл бұрын
Anyone know what to do if you feel pain/tension in one of your hips during overhead press?
@TheYokoHog5 жыл бұрын
Wait...you're not Martins Licis!
@Lukis6875 жыл бұрын
Hi, I saw your video and Brian Alsruhe's video on breathing and bracing, and have tried to incorporate your breathing technique (at top) and bracing for my OHP for the first time these past few weeks. I don't know what I'm doing wrong, but every time I've been trying this new technique on my lifts (but I only really notice this on the OHP) I get some discomfort in my stomach after a few sets, and it will last for a while (like 30 min at least) and mess up the rest of my session. Is this something you've ever heard about? Could I be doing something wrong with the way I'm breathing and bracing? Sorry I just really don't know where to ask, I've tried googling but haven't found anything about this.
@smartandstrong67205 жыл бұрын
Hey Joey, just one question: do you keep your narrower hand with with your oly work and push presses ?
@tongkachu5 жыл бұрын
Do i retract my scapula during press? I had shoulder dislocation before (dislocated during incline dumbbell bench)
@rishirajroychowdhury61215 жыл бұрын
should i do strict press and push press on the same day?or split it..🙄🧐
@idkitsnottheserious5 жыл бұрын
Is Joey natty? Not trying to hate just looking for people to compare my goals too
@tmak1234tony5 жыл бұрын
Hi, is hand grip matter?
@Huanglin12345 жыл бұрын
technical tips are nice but I think the best advice for me right now is just to get stronger
@LonaiRe5 жыл бұрын
Szat i can see your back is curved ( like banana) however u squeze your butt and abs, i have same back position like you . Do you think its just the way we are build or im doing something incorrectly? I saw some people doing ohp with almost perfectly staight back but i always have this curve ( im not leaning back much and i squeeze abs and butt) im tall guy 6'4 very long legs and short torso, maybe thats why my back is always curved when doing ohp? I dont have pelvic tilt or any issue with my spine , thanks man!
@CPPidiots5 жыл бұрын
Shoulder mobility? Can be fixed easily. :)
@hasanyurekli50275 жыл бұрын
İntro song ?
@nikj35795 жыл бұрын
Thoughts on letting the bar go all the way down to the upper chest in the bottom position versus having a gap, like I see you and lots of others do?
@TiberiusStorm5 жыл бұрын
Some people don't have the mobility to let the bar touch their upper chest in the front rack position.
@nikj35795 жыл бұрын
@@TiberiusStorm But take Joey for example, I bet he has the mobility, so there must be a argument for doing so.
@obits35 жыл бұрын
I do it because it just feels better to puff the chest a bit and lock the bar down before starting each press. For me, it creates a stretch reflex.
@boxofhammers14274 жыл бұрын
Every time I go to upper chest it fucks my set even though I have the mobility for it
@calumcaldwell50255 жыл бұрын
im gonna do all that lol
@Desklamp12345 жыл бұрын
"Bigger overhead press" back to thr children's English classroom i think.
@shahimkhlaifat2 жыл бұрын
He didn't mention the best tip of all, which is wearing a belt
@jesussandoval8756 Жыл бұрын
Another important thing to remember is that a strong bench press can help break an overhead press plateau. As soon as I improved my bench press, my overhead press followed. You have no hope of overhead pressing 200 lbs if you're bench is less than 300 lbs. I've seen someone press 225 lbs over their head but his bench was 365 lbs. It just makes sense that a stronger bench = stronger overhead press. You get what I mean?
@ascendedvegeta5 жыл бұрын
What's the barbell brigade shirt about? I don't think I've heard of them but I'm curious
@SzatStrength5 жыл бұрын
It’s a cult
@andrewlee91085 жыл бұрын
Lol its bart kwans gyms name. They have a yt channel too hes trolling its not a cult
@SzatStrength5 жыл бұрын
Andrew Lee is joking called trolling these days?
@andrewlee91085 жыл бұрын
@@SzatStrength yeah theyre used interchangeably these days. Trolling doesnt always have a negative connotation anymore
@BeStill-zy5ye Жыл бұрын
People called me strong for pressing 220 ha.
@quiksilva89775 жыл бұрын
Did this a couple days ago and when I was on my last rep, my neck cracked and hurt like a bitch
@thevikingbeard895 жыл бұрын
What happens if my biceps are so big and sexy they can't line up with my ears?! Lol
@bingomaster22273 жыл бұрын
What the fuck, 350 lbs, i thought a plate was strong as hell
@leonflowers20735 жыл бұрын
Besides OHP what else has helped you to get stronger at the OHP?