How Hypersonic Wind Tunnels Recreate Mach 20

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Scott Manley

2 жыл бұрын

Wind tunnels have been part of aviation research since before the first powered aircraft took to the skies. And there are a huge range of capabilities available to researchers, including the ability to test models are mach numbers close to orbital velocity.
I discovered the thumbnail image on a NASA page showing a Mach 20 helium wind tunnel testing a model of the Space Shuttle Orbiter and thought it was worth explaining how all this comes together to create the image.
www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/flyout/unflyable.html
If you want to read more about the evolution of wind tunnels there's a book which primarily covers NASA's (and NACA's) wind tunnels
history.nasa.gov/SP-440/contents.htm
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@vipondiu
@vipondiu 2 жыл бұрын
The best thing about space is that every little detail of anything is just the tip of an iceberg made out of tons of talent and engineering and people that battled problems and solved them succesfully. Science is awesome
@onedaya_martian1238
@onedaya_martian1238 2 жыл бұрын
People sciencing is awesome too !
@SetTheCurve
@SetTheCurve 2 жыл бұрын
That’s true if nearly everything, from pencils to the socks you’re wearing, to the phone you’re watching this on.
@kevfaherty123
@kevfaherty123 2 жыл бұрын
Well said!
@BeyReaper
@BeyReaper 2 жыл бұрын
That really is the case with science and research. Trying to engineer an object, like the space shuttle, that undergoes a lot of loads, thermal, structural, and aerodynamic, requires developing testing new methods all the time. As Scott mention these two things, it requires loads of knowledge from different aspects involved to research these things, including knowledge in the properties of air, fundamentals of fluids in all regimes of fluid flow, but also understanding the drawbacks in testing these methods. These drawbacks are considerations that have to be taken into account when testing at scale models, like understanding what error is generated from when scaled down and how that effects the the full model. You could easily imagine that hypersonics wind tunnel testing is a lecture that could last 2 hours at minimum and, without covering the technique of performing these tests, would cover all the methods, considerations, physics, scaling, be it non-dimensional numbers or systematic error, that is considered. A well experienced scientist or professor can get down to the nitty gritty of testing in wind tunnels.
@shawntipton5078
@shawntipton5078 2 жыл бұрын
Perhaps but The question of God/divine is often called the prime reason people practice science and is the main scientific question and goal in all fields. Astronomy is such a deep and intruding area of study. Both Science and faith are awesome, both have universally worked in harmony and both have gifted the world and contributed enormously, most scientists known and asked express deep religious beliefs. Religious study is the more complex of the two, creating evolutionary theories, discovering natural laws such as chemistry, biology and physics and then allowing science to unlock them. The key to understanding the physical universe in terms of language though is mathematics. It could be said that if you understand advanced mathematics, you understand the physical universe
@VinayPai
@VinayPai 2 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised Destin from Smarter Every Day didn't get summoned when you said "laminar flow" at 1:25.
@CxOrillion
@CxOrillion 2 жыл бұрын
You have to say it 3 times while looking in the mirror.
@VeganAncientDragonKnight
@VeganAncientDragonKnight 2 жыл бұрын
@@CxOrillion yes a mirror made of laminar flow.
@doggonemess1
@doggonemess1 2 жыл бұрын
@@JuvenileWolf XD
@johndemeritt3460
@johndemeritt3460 2 жыл бұрын
@@JuvenileWolf, yeah, I saw that video yesterday. I'm sure he'll show up as soon as all traces of the mayo are gone -- I think that camera belongs to one of his partners.
@garnergc
@garnergc 2 жыл бұрын
I thought you had to make a circle out of snatch blocks when saying laminar flow in the mirror for him to appear
@jamesmnguyen
@jamesmnguyen 2 жыл бұрын
I love how Scott walked us through the thinking process of how to build a hypersonic wind tunnel. I had similar questions at each stage and he answered them immediately.
@lossless4129
@lossless4129 2 жыл бұрын
Very very good at this, I agree! Imagine if you always had teaching/learning in this matter!
@cubfan
@cubfan 2 жыл бұрын
Really cool how a single image can spark curiosity and learning about some very interesting science. Great video Scott.
@Peteypete98
@Peteypete98 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Mr Minecraft man!
@CardZed
@CardZed 2 жыл бұрын
Heya cub!
@user-kh8jy5ec8o
@user-kh8jy5ec8o 2 жыл бұрын
What are you doing here hermit?
@amyyyyy24
@amyyyyy24 2 жыл бұрын
Whoa, did not expect to see you here, Cub! Nice!
@joshhemingway-lawson7645
@joshhemingway-lawson7645 2 жыл бұрын
Cant lie i really did not expect cupfan in here
@jajssblue
@jajssblue 2 жыл бұрын
Man, I wish I was a kid again. I was desperate for science explainers like Scott in the pre-internet 90's. I remember just having to take a book's short description of this phenomena for granted, but not really understanding it until decades later in college.
@magnemoe1
@magnemoe1 2 жыл бұрын
This, now today its 3 sorts of problems. The easy ones like how to make an hyper sonic wind tunnel. Stuff none know and stuff you can not google :)
@billhanna2148
@billhanna2148 2 жыл бұрын
@@magnemoe1 well, texted,🤔
@PyroDesu
@PyroDesu 2 жыл бұрын
Carl Sagan, perhaps?
@signalworks
@signalworks 2 жыл бұрын
As a kid, I’m seriously grateful to have so many opportunities. Thanks to all who came before me, who made this life possible
@Lucien86
@Lucien86 2 жыл бұрын
The worst thing about the time before You Tube was having to rely very often on people like science journalists. So often wrong, so often subtly incorrect in ways that are not east to spot. That can mess people up technically for years or for the rest of their life.
@LeoH3L1
@LeoH3L1 2 жыл бұрын
I studied aeronautical engineering years ago, and got to use a wind tunnel for a project, it was subsonic, but we also had a blow down supersonic wind tunnel, that one worked by decompressing a chamber, and compressing another, and quickly releasing the pressure, and using a trigger to start a camera to record the shock waves around the model in the test section :)
@RightFootForward11
@RightFootForward11 2 жыл бұрын
I designed a supersonic blow down wind tunnel for my senior project this year. Not really, it’s actually pressure tanks going through ball valves and pressure regulators into a settling chamber, then another ball valve with air blowing through a nozzle rigged with thermocouples and pitot static probes. The idea is to cheaply manufacture nozzles for a Jetcat hobbyist turbojet, since the nozzles don’t have to withstand thermal stress from the hot exhaust. The purpose of the test rig is to simulate the Mach coming out of the turbine of my engine (M=0.918), but I have had Mach 1.9 flow coming out of it before I had the regulators dialed in properly
@nelsongarcia8959
@nelsongarcia8959 2 жыл бұрын
Some of us look at a cat video on youtube and still can't explain in simple terms what a cat is. Scott Manley sees one 50 year-old picture and, in a few minutes, explains multiple mind-blowing scientific facts via the same cat video delivery platform.
@93_LXcpe
@93_LXcpe 2 жыл бұрын
And 67 people thumb this down 🤦‍♂️
@bbgun061
@bbgun061 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair, cats are enigmatic creatures with mysterious and devious motivations. Hypersonic fluid dynamics is easy stuff to explain in comparison.
@OphisUK
@OphisUK 2 жыл бұрын
An endothermic quadriped, carnivorous by nature.
@nelsongarcia8959
@nelsongarcia8959 2 жыл бұрын
@@OphisUK That sure narrows it down for me, LOL
@Muonium1
@Muonium1 2 жыл бұрын
Never in a thousand years would I have ever thought to use an electron beam to ionize the gas flow in a wind tunnel to see such things on reentry simulations. The people who come up with this stuff truly have amazing minds. They basically turned the model itself into a kind of neon sign to let the gas alone show the flow and density patterns. Truly genius whoever came up with that.
@smort123
@smort123 2 жыл бұрын
"ionizing the gas flow" would be a bit overkill tho
@Muonium1
@Muonium1 2 жыл бұрын
@@smort123 wellll....that's what it does.
@Greyalien587
@Greyalien587 2 жыл бұрын
Lsd
@mastershooter64
@mastershooter64 2 жыл бұрын
@@smort123 That's literally what it does...
@laprepper
@laprepper 2 жыл бұрын
Old TVs had electron beams in them. Cathode ray tube. There's no such thing as a cathode-ray but there is such a thing as an electron beam 😁
@buzzmas8068
@buzzmas8068 2 жыл бұрын
I FINALLY understand how converging/diverging nozzles work! Something about this explanation made it click for me
@oliverriall
@oliverriall 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, me to, I think the bit about all the energy being stored up as it just can't move through the gap anymore and then thinking of air exploding on the other side.
@danh2716
@danh2716 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. A better explanation than most college engineering textbooks as far as just explaining the concept.
@oadka
@oadka 2 жыл бұрын
Me too!
@ananttiwari1337
@ananttiwari1337 2 жыл бұрын
SAME!!!
@eddiezebeast
@eddiezebeast 2 жыл бұрын
"But in the end, after testing, it was vastly more successful at converting aviation fuel into noise pollution" How much do I like these sarcastic quotes 😁
@thesherbet
@thesherbet 2 жыл бұрын
best bit is that's not even sarcasm, thats just an objective statement xD
@therflash
@therflash 2 жыл бұрын
@@thesherbet Noise polution is a tad of an understatement.
@MrTrashmasterfx
@MrTrashmasterfx 2 жыл бұрын
I had tears in my eyes after he said that because of laughter
@lazarus2691
@lazarus2691 2 жыл бұрын
@@therflash Indeed. It was so loud it literally made people sick. "On the ground "run ups", the prototypes could reportedly be heard 25 miles (40 km) away." "The aircraft was notorious for inducing severe nausea and headaches among ground crews." "In one report, a Republic engineer suffered a seizure after close range exposure to the shock waves emanating from a powered-up XF-84H."
@mikeclarke952
@mikeclarke952 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah you pretty much needed an old priest and a young priest to get near that abomination. "The power of Christ compels thee!". As they flick holy gasoline on it.
@jamesmihalcik1310
@jamesmihalcik1310 2 жыл бұрын
When you said "Fifty year old photo", I had to quickly do the math in disbelief of my actual age. I felt my whole day slip down a peg, on the pretty good scale of painlessly enjoyable. :) Rock-On Dr. Scott ! Always cool facts, keeping it sharp.
@Zacks.C-land
@Zacks.C-land 2 жыл бұрын
I was all but a baby when the space shuttle started. Even I felt that one! 😅
@martinmckee5333
@martinmckee5333 2 жыл бұрын
@@Zacks.C-land I watched STS-1, being held by mother, the day after I was born. It was painful when the Space Shuttle was decommissioned in 2011.
@Richardincancale
@Richardincancale 2 жыл бұрын
1:10 I visited the Eiffel wind tunnel a couple of years ago. It’s still in use for wind speeds up to 120 km/hr. You can actually walk into the tunnel - it’s person sized! For bigger objects to be tested they make a scale model. They had recently used it to test the stability of drones.
@zapfanzapfan
@zapfanzapfan 2 жыл бұрын
Do they test weather men in it to see if they can handle a storm? :-)
@Richardincancale
@Richardincancale 2 жыл бұрын
@@zapfanzapfan It would definitely be a test of their toupee glue!!!
@TheSEC2024
@TheSEC2024 Жыл бұрын
What happened to your face [? & ?]
@devincastellucci4627
@devincastellucci4627 2 жыл бұрын
This was a fascinating topic and a fabulous job explaining it.
@MonkeyJedi99
@MonkeyJedi99 2 жыл бұрын
I have to say, I've never put it together that rocket engines and wind tunnels are so closely related. One of those "Oh yeah!" moments.
@petergerdes1094
@petergerdes1094 2 жыл бұрын
This was amazing. It's this kind of content that makes this my favorite KZfaq channel! Technical content well explained without treating the viewer either as an idiot or requiring we actually do the calculations.
@eyoelgebre5849
@eyoelgebre5849 2 жыл бұрын
100% agree with you. Very interesting subjects that were well researched and explained perfectly. Thanks Scott!
@johnturnbull7798
@johnturnbull7798 Жыл бұрын
Impressive! I am ashamed to say I am supposed to know all this ( I do really) but would trip over myself trying to explain it to the layman. Scott does a great job leading you through the subject starting from the basics, explaining the issues and they way they have been resolved to achieve Mach 20. I am very impressed.
@NaqrSeranvis
@NaqrSeranvis Жыл бұрын
Don't be ashamed. Not every specialist (which I assume you are if you are supposed to know that) has to be a good teacher as well. Some people are good at accumulating knowledge and using it, but not necessarily at sharing it (actually that 'some' a significant if not vast majority of people whose brains develop in a way that causes them to take interest in complex technical concepts).
@WhiteOwlOnFire_XXX
@WhiteOwlOnFire_XXX Жыл бұрын
Get some knee pads why don’t ya
@johnnypopstar
@johnnypopstar Жыл бұрын
@@WhiteOwlOnFire_XXX It's actually ok to appreciate people and/or things.
@mikebridges20
@mikebridges20 2 жыл бұрын
Scott, I teach engineering to high school students, and one of the classes is Aerospace engineering. I can't tell you how much I've learned from your videos, and I'm incorporating as much as I think high school seniors can understand into my classes. Thanks so much!
@Spashium
@Spashium 2 жыл бұрын
We just covered wind tunnels and flows in my aerospace engineering course! It feels awesome to really understand everything going on in this video.
@will3346
@will3346 2 жыл бұрын
We just started compressible flow in my thermo/aero class. What uni do you go to?
@yangyu9990
@yangyu9990 2 жыл бұрын
@@will3346 And I'm just finishing compressible flow in my Applied fluid dynamics unit! hahaha big world
@Spashium
@Spashium 2 жыл бұрын
@@will3346 Ohio State, what about you?
@will3346
@will3346 2 жыл бұрын
@@Spashium Ah nice I go to Georgia Tech. What’s Ohio state like?
@TheReaverOfDarkness
@TheReaverOfDarkness 2 жыл бұрын
"Bernoulli's most obvious law" I love that! This stuff is also yet another example of the science that needs helium that we keep hearing about.
@Dragrath1
@Dragrath1 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah yet another reason we must end the accursed use of precious terrestrial helium for fing party balloons....
@wolu9456
@wolu9456 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dragrath1 yep . i hope they recover the hel. from those vac. tanks. like the university on periodicvideos
@mkllove
@mkllove 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Scott ! This was a reminder of a great job I had in late 80's in Rocket Test for ARC ( now Aerojet I think ) that had a huge "Air Facility" as it was called in those days. I think it was an amalgam of ex NASA equipment that allowed them to test fire not models, but the actual full size SM-2 Standard Missile recreating it's entire flight profile while the motor operated, generating performance test data to qualify systems for manufacturing. They even had an expansion system around nozzle's exit to recreate lower external air pressures at altitude. It was a blowdown system with about a dozen immense tanks on railroad cars that took days to fill with the required compressed air it expended in tests. They literally flew the missile in a high speed wind tunnel while the rocket motor operated in real world test conditions ! They also did extensive ramjet testing with same facilities. I sometimes wonder if any of that stuff is still being used to test next gen systems currently ?
@RustyDust101
@RustyDust101 2 жыл бұрын
Fascinating topic, completely agreed. If I may, the "Schlieren Photography" is pronounced "sh-leer-en". Schlieren is the German word for wisps or swirls, such as you get when a drop of mechanical oil glistens on a swirling patch of water in light. Not as critique, simply as pronounciation help for the future.
@Zeusbeer
@Zeusbeer 2 жыл бұрын
My university has a mach 10+ wind tunnel, it doesn't run for very long though. I would love to get to use it one day.
@PuerRidcully
@PuerRidcully 2 жыл бұрын
If you stood in it while it was operating, I imagine it would do with you the same thing that carburetor does to a droplet of fuel.
@Physco219
@Physco219 2 жыл бұрын
What uni?
@travcollier
@travcollier 2 жыл бұрын
Back when I was an undergrad (many years ago), a friend of mine worked in a lab with a hypersonic wind tunnel. More like a cannon than what most folks think of as a wind tunnel. Anyways, they made a fun video of a paper airplane getting disintegrated by the shockwave. PS: This was at Caltech. Oh, and I'm commenting before watching Scott's video... Wondering how much is going to be familiar ;)
@glennpearson9348
@glennpearson9348 2 жыл бұрын
Texas A&M also has a hypersonic wind tunnel. Damn thing is loud!
@f0xacid764
@f0xacid764 2 жыл бұрын
​@@glennpearson9348 We also had one at my uni. Everytime they used it you'd hear it like a gunshot all over campus. They also had warning lights on the nearby street so that the drivers could prepare to be startled :D
@EstorilEm
@EstorilEm 2 жыл бұрын
Such a cool episode! As soon as you mentioned expansion after the restriction area to increase velocity I was like “WAIT a second… thats exactly the same principle as…” and a few seconds later you mention rocket nozzles. 🤣
@WWeronko
@WWeronko 2 жыл бұрын
As a mechanical engineer, I have often said to disbelieving laymen, that engineers are some of the most creative people alive. This video does a good job at validating that concept. Thank you Scott.
@ronblack7870
@ronblack7870 2 жыл бұрын
yes as an engineer when i hear artists say they are creators i always think to myself yah what do they actually create?
@WWeronko
@WWeronko 2 жыл бұрын
@@ronblack7870 I totally agree. I'd like to think the flush toilet is of more practical worth than all the art ever produced.
@YounesLayachi
@YounesLayachi Жыл бұрын
Bingo. It applies to theoretical sciences too, they're full of thought experiments, abstract concepts or infinitely unreachable situations
@potatofuryy
@potatofuryy Жыл бұрын
Why y’all gotta be so negative lol, no shit art doesn’t have practical uses like engineering, but people enjoy it.
@user-vp1sc7tt4m
@user-vp1sc7tt4m 2 жыл бұрын
"50 year old photo featuring the Space Shuttle in a helium electron beam excited wind tunnel". I was 10 when we landed on the moon in 1969. That was only 52 years ago. I love this example of 50 year old serious work we and others were and are doing that is very much out of my training and scope. Kudos to the scientists, engineers, programmers, project managers, inventors.... all those people working hard in the area they aspire to and love that is making a difference in our world.
@miroslavmilan
@miroslavmilan 2 жыл бұрын
This must be one of your best videos ever. Really succinct explanation and enjoyable narration.
@daniloduarte3372
@daniloduarte3372 2 жыл бұрын
I am often impressed by how good and specific to the subject the visuals in these videos are. How do you usually go about finding the right images?
@thePronto
@thePronto 2 жыл бұрын
I just found one of them in following up on the stuff I learned. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Laval_nozzle
@CED99
@CED99 2 жыл бұрын
Find an image relating to something else, in this case the previous video. Do some research on the image and realise not only is it a cool image but that a lot of engineering was required for it to even exist. Spend ages making a video
@UnshavenStatue
@UnshavenStatue 2 жыл бұрын
Forget the wind tunnels, I never understood the rocket nozzle throat thing until now, many thanks for that clear and simple explanation of how fluid physics adjusts relative to sound speed!
@urmeti
@urmeti 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant lecture, as always, we're waiting for a long overdue shock wave dynamics video as promised in plutonium implosion devices, looking forward to that Scott! Peace from North Wales
@gauthiernvl6111
@gauthiernvl6111 2 жыл бұрын
I follow this channel since early ksp journey. After a casual course about the topology of fuel injection in rocket engine, here we go: a casual course about the engineering problems of high velocity wind tunnels.
@crazypete3759
@crazypete3759 Жыл бұрын
I wish they had lessons like this in school. It covers so many topics and in an interesting and engaging format! It seems like schools are more interested in confusing children instead of teaching them.
@bluenightfury4365
@bluenightfury4365 Жыл бұрын
And stressing them out too.
@demef758
@demef758 Жыл бұрын
You're not badmouthing Drag Queen Story Time Reading, are you?
@crazypete3759
@crazypete3759 Жыл бұрын
@@demef758 if the shoe fits...
@craigdeandean4036
@craigdeandean4036 2 жыл бұрын
I live 5 miles from Langley and have seen all of that equipment up close and personal many times Now after nearly 50 years It is awesome to know how it works thank you Scott great work!!
@Concodroid
@Concodroid 2 жыл бұрын
dang that's a nice thumbnail
@agustinbs
@agustinbs 2 жыл бұрын
WOW this was insanely interesting, and a testimony of how aparently simple things, are in reality much complex, specially when you push for the limits.
@roderickharvey7857
@roderickharvey7857 8 ай бұрын
As a aerospace engineering technician at Langley Research Center for 36 years our job was to install instrument and run the wind tunnels. I worked and operated in over 20 wind tunnels during my career. The 20” Mach 20 Helium tunnel shown here and described by Scott was described accurately for the reason for the use of Helium gas. After purification of the helium gas we increased the gas pressure I believe ( sorry I retired 20 years ago) 3000 psi. When the isolation valve for the tunnel to the vacuum sphere was open the 3000 psi helium supply valves were opened and the gas raced thru the orifice and generated Mach 20. No heating of the helium was required. Many years were spent in this and other NASA facilities to develop the final shuttle shape. I also worked in the Mach 6 2’x2’ tunnel air in the D wing of Gas Dynamic building 1247 at Langley. To develop Mach 6 with 600 psi air the air was heater to about 425 + degrees to insure the air would not become liquid as it accelerates to Mach 6 thru the nozzle which causes a drop in temperature. If not hot enough the air would liquify into air and droplets of air and invalidate the data. So if we used air at Mach 20 what temperature of the air would be required to prevent liquefaction- above my pay grade but probably several thousand degrees. So what material in the structure of tunnels valves and hardware would be required to withstand those temperatures - materials we did not have therefore helium was used. I point I noticed in the comments I was technician and had the the immense honor of working with some of the brightest aerospace engineers and managers in our country - these brilliant engineers these public servants worked tirelessly long hours with pay well below many other in the private sector and were true patriots.
@bobschmitz7488
@bobschmitz7488 2 жыл бұрын
Scott… I’ve watching your videos for sometime now and just wanted to say THANK YOU. I love your how you explain technical things and you make the viewer never to feel dumb. This particular video was fascinating as I never thought about hypersonic testing requirements before. Keep up the excellent work that you do for us!!!!!
@Mosern1977
@Mosern1977 2 жыл бұрын
Its Friday afternoon, and I learned more about hypersonic wind-tunnels. It is great that school honed my skills at acquiring knowledge I will never need in real life. I quite enjoyed that.
@Iron_Shepherd
@Iron_Shepherd Жыл бұрын
Very well explained, Scott. I love that Saturn-5 rocket model! Seeing it takes me back to when I was a kid, watching Apollo 11 land on the moon.
@SkulShurtugalTCG
@SkulShurtugalTCG 2 жыл бұрын
It took me 7 minutes of watching this video before I realized Scott was wearing merch.
@nunosilva8865
@nunosilva8865 2 жыл бұрын
I love your videos! You were part of my child/teenage years! Thank you so much
@TrickyClaw
@TrickyClaw 2 жыл бұрын
It took untill after the video reading the comments for me.
@leofisher407
@leofisher407 2 жыл бұрын
Why are you here
@dukecraig2402
@dukecraig2402 2 жыл бұрын
I was trying to figure out what that was.
@Rockit-
@Rockit- 2 жыл бұрын
Shows you were concentrating on what he was saying
@flappergast1012
@flappergast1012 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Scott - why are you so awesome!!! This is once again an amazing story about several amazing physical effects. KEEP IT COMING!
@el-domo
@el-domo 2 жыл бұрын
Speaking of wind tunnels, please please feel free to use our open source wind tunnel to use for schools and other activities or just for yourself to have fun. You can find it in our channels. Go ahead and enjoy it.
@waylontmccann
@waylontmccann 2 жыл бұрын
This was awesome. It's great to see how some of the more analog science approaches were done when we didn't have the simulation technology we have now. Thanks for sharing Scott!
@iansimpson7058
@iansimpson7058 Жыл бұрын
Awesome lecture, Prof. Manley. Thank you for breaking through the complexities of this and all the fascinating subjects you cover and making their fundamentals understandable.
@arthjariwala2270
@arthjariwala2270 2 жыл бұрын
Simple but deep explanation of gas dynamic, compressible flow & wind tunnel as well. Great job 👍👍
@irisshea6313
@irisshea6313 2 жыл бұрын
“converting aviation fuel into noise pollution” is such a fantastic descriptor omg
@John.0z
@John.0z 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Scott, most interesting. That image is just amazing. I too have seen a transonic shock, on the inner wing of a B-747-400. In my case it was visible as a stable distortion standing up above the wing surface - exactly the height I had read about as the optimal trade-off between increased fuel burn due to mach drag rise and flight time. I called over the cabin attendant - thinking she would find it as interesting as I did. No, she thought I was expecting the plane to crash or something. I still do not understand how a person who is in the airline industry can be so incurious about aerodynamics... and maybe more than a little ignorant. I took several photos, but thanks to several changes of residence, I do not know where they are now.
@thomasdunn496
@thomasdunn496 2 жыл бұрын
When growing up in Madison, AL, I used to live down the road from Wyle Lab’s wind tunnel. I think they helped NASA test the shuttle’s aerodynamics there. Whenever Wyle conducted a test, there was always a low-frequency sound that made all the windows rattle. I can definitely see why now after watching this very informative video.
@TallinuTV
@TallinuTV 2 жыл бұрын
That's amazing. Being able to put together a whole bunch of different processes and principles to create something that lets you *see* the density of the air, and do it under such extreme conditions... I never fail to be impressed by ingenious solutions like this.
@alexwebster7065
@alexwebster7065 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. In case nobody else has mentioned it, I recommend the book "Facing the Heat Barrier" by T.A. Heppenheimer. The first part of the book goes into some detail about the different wind tunnels developed during the early years of the space age, and why they were necessary. It's an absolute must-read if you are interested in how the problems of heat were solved for ICBMs, Apollo, the X-15 and Space Shuttle.
@FlyNAA
@FlyNAA 2 жыл бұрын
Came to post about this book!
@karlkastor
@karlkastor 2 жыл бұрын
This is way more interesting than I expected. The nozzle based design like in a rocket and the liquification of the air after Mach 4 blew my mind. Btw Schlieren is a German word meaning something like a line of smudges on a surface. It's pronounced more closer to Shlee-ren then what you said.
@larryowsowitz2274
@larryowsowitz2274 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent discussion of basic wind tunnel operations. As an aero engineer it was a fun review. The US Air Force has a facility in Tullahoma, Tennessee that has wind tunnels that run tests from sub sonic to hypersonic. I walked through the the test section of the transonic tunnel that could hold very large scale models (about 20’) for testing.
@LockeRobsta
@LockeRobsta 2 жыл бұрын
Usually when you explain the physics behind certain complex topics no I have to watch it a couple of times before I get it but this video I was able to understand pretty much everything you said in one watch. It's a testament to how well you know this topic as you are able to explain it so simply.
@simpleau2
@simpleau2 2 жыл бұрын
That was a great explanation, really interesting stuff!
@alexeytsybyshev9459
@alexeytsybyshev9459 2 жыл бұрын
I think the reason for using Helium is that, temperature being proportional to the kinetic energy of gas molecules mv^2/2, the lower the mass of the molecule, the lower the temperature (and energy) needed to achieve the same velocity. That is why Helium needs much less heating than air to reach Mach 20. I think this was also used to fire a hypersonic Helium pellet gun in some video.
@ivandasty277
@ivandasty277 2 жыл бұрын
I know for a fact that I will never deal with wind tunnels in my whole life, but the joy of learning new things and adding new questions after them is so pure and sweet that I can not miss it. And you, dear Scott, have a special part in this whole story. thank you.👍❤️
@sp00fman1
@sp00fman1 2 жыл бұрын
Quality content once again. Informative, fun and easy to follow. You're among the best creators to follow on YT. Thanks Scott !
@RamsesYT
@RamsesYT 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Scott, for this excellent lecture on these amazing subjects. I thought I understood windtunnels from back in uni but never realized hypersonic speeds present such extreme challenges. I loved to hear you describe my line of thoughts just when I started seeing the similarity of rocket nozzles! That was a great trick! It makes me wonder which came first - the hypersonic windtunnel or the rocket nozzle? But again, massive thanks for this awesome post! 👌
@trolleriffic
@trolleriffic Жыл бұрын
It's a very late answer, but the rocket nozzle came first - the converging-diverging (De Laval) nozzle was first used in a rocket in 1915 by Robert Goddard. By late-WW2 Germany had wind tunnels that could operate at up to Mach 4.4 and possibly even as high as Mach 5 intermittently. They were also in the process of building one that would reach Mach 7-10. In 1947 John Becker at NACA Langley built a small testbed hypersonic tunnel that reached Mach 6.9 in 1947 - the first hypersonic wind tunnel in the US.
@PastrySC
@PastrySC 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Scott. Helium and Hydrogen both have negative joule-Thompson coefficients, which mean they actually heat up in stead of cool down when throttled through an orifice. Maybe that is part of the reason for using Helium here as well. Thanks for an awesome video as always!
@nspinicelli
@nspinicelli Жыл бұрын
Just absolutely impressive… you know your material extremely well when you’re able to describe it to the layman. That’s the sign of subject matter expert!
@avalanchas336
@avalanchas336 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, maybe your best explained video to date, storytelling-wise. Great pacing, great narrative, well done Scott!
@philipkudrna5643
@philipkudrna5643 2 жыл бұрын
Again one of the best videos ever. Nobody does it better than Scott! Thank you very much for the simple, comprehensible and very interesting information about what seems to be a simple computer animated image, but is in fact far more!
@alexanderbonardi4514
@alexanderbonardi4514 2 жыл бұрын
I was amazed to discover that the Germans had a Mach 5 wind tunnel in Penemunde. I guess this was a high priority article for operation paperclip, seeing how rare and sofisticated these things are. Still, to think they where doing this kind of engineering almost 80 years ago.... Mind blowing.
@cogoid
@cogoid 2 жыл бұрын
In the lobby of U.S. Food and Drug Administration building (just outside the beltway of Washington DC) there is a huge abstract composition named _"Prototype for Re-Entry"_. It represents a V-2 missile and it is there only because this was the location where these German wind tunnels were installed after the war. It was called White Oak Naval Ordnance Laboratory then. The tunnels were operated by US personnel with the help of 12 German scientists from Peenemünde.
@rebsredone450
@rebsredone450 2 жыл бұрын
The ‘ie’ “Schlieren”-technique is actually pronounced like the ‘ee’ in the English word “eerie”. (Sorry, but it is a German word. It literally means “smears”. And while Germans don’t know everything, they sure know everything better.) BTW: I noticed that Scott’s eyes looked weird in some videos. Now I know why: it is the reflection of the circular light he is using in his recording set-up. Nice video with interesting details. Thanks!
@calebcourteau
@calebcourteau 2 жыл бұрын
Love your channel Scott. Been watching you for years. You have such a firm grasp on technical topics that you make them sound simple and obvious with your clear explanations, even if the topics are actually quite subtle. Bravo.
@forferdeilig
@forferdeilig 2 жыл бұрын
Would absolutely love you to do a few videos or a playlist on the basics of fluid dynamics, these videos are so well explained, I feel it could be really helpful for a lot of people
@FandersonUfo
@FandersonUfo 2 жыл бұрын
helium at Mach 20 is pretty hardcore
@jamescollier3
@jamescollier3 2 жыл бұрын
lol. when you put it that way. Haha
@TechyBen
@TechyBen 2 жыл бұрын
Bernoulli might be spinning in his grave over all the misunderstandings of his theory... but no physicist can agree on how he spins.
@VrataVenet
@VrataVenet 2 жыл бұрын
Fascinating! One of the best videos I have seen on this channel. 👌🏾🙏🏾
@bionova7
@bionova7 2 жыл бұрын
I always come back to your channel every once in a while because it’s exactly just technical enough while also not feeling like a lecture Keep up the good work Scott!
@oliverlamb8892
@oliverlamb8892 2 жыл бұрын
My fluid engineering teacher taught me "the only way to convert subsonic flow into supersonic flow is the throat of a duck" QUACK!
@minus118
@minus118 2 жыл бұрын
Was more succesful at turning aviation fuel into noise pollution xD
@Physco219
@Physco219 2 жыл бұрын
Loved that line.
@frankgulla2335
@frankgulla2335 2 жыл бұрын
You are amazing when it comes to explaining things with great illustrations and graphics. Thank you.
@Gammaduster
@Gammaduster 2 жыл бұрын
Fascinating topic! It amazes me how you always come up with great videos I didn't even know were a thing, thank you a lot for your work Scott
@safetyinstructor
@safetyinstructor 2 жыл бұрын
"Schlieren" is pronounced "Schleeren" not "Schliren
@Merennulli
@Merennulli Жыл бұрын
It's amazing all the complex engineering that went into taking that photo. Great explanation of it!
@nobodynemoq
@nobodynemoq 2 жыл бұрын
Perfectly explained! I didn't even think of how many problems had to be solved to achieve this...
@SuperDwarf00
@SuperDwarf00 2 жыл бұрын
In 1968 I was stationed at NAS Moffet Field were Nasa Ames Research center. The wind tunnel would keep us awake ,great stuff
@JaapvanderVelde
@JaapvanderVelde 2 жыл бұрын
Your technical storytelling skills are unrivaled, sir. That is some dry matter to explain, but it was super-engaging, chapeau!
@paulhaynes8045
@paulhaynes8045 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting - and a very complex subject explained so well I thought for a moment or two that I almost understood it... I love the variety on this channel - you never know what's going to pop up or when. Definitely the best YT science and tech channel.
@prsearls
@prsearls 2 жыл бұрын
That is really amazing. I saw the low speed wind tunnel at Langley, decades ago. There is (or was) a KZfaq film about how its giant, wooden propellers were built. I hadn't given much thought about supersonic, much less hypersonic, tunnels. Your explanation of the problems and solutions for these is fascinating. I really enjoyed it.
@Madash023
@Madash023 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing insight. It was a beautiful abstract image initially, but knowing all this just makes it that much more awesome.
@roi9875
@roi9875 2 жыл бұрын
I’m taking a compressible flow class this semester and it’s cool hearing you talk about this stuff while I’m learning about it.
@johnkochan4819
@johnkochan4819 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. From someone who has been working in everything from a 7'X10' 100PSF low speed tunnel to a MACH 6 quiet tunnel to a MACH~'we're not sure just how fast we can go" Hypersonic Expansion Tunnel using a Helium slug. Now my days are spent developing new laser based analytical techniques for hypersonics research. This was a fantastic explanation of how wind tunnels work and why there aren't too many hypersonic facilities.
@kennethblackwell1137
@kennethblackwell1137 2 жыл бұрын
Well done, Scott. As an Aerospace engineer who has tested in wind tunnels all over the country, I get so infuriated at the regular media in talking about hypersonic. Of course they wouldn't begin to understand your discussion. Thanks.
@ozzymandius666
@ozzymandius666 2 жыл бұрын
Some equations would've been nice. Max airspeed as a function of boiling point would have been nice.
@slackstation
@slackstation Жыл бұрын
Brilliant video, well told with just enough history to explain the need for it and the problems it was trying to solve.
@theobserver9131
@theobserver9131 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. That was way more complicated than I would have imagined! Fascinating too!
@matthewb8229
@matthewb8229 2 жыл бұрын
Always quality information from yuo, Scott. My inner nerd appreciates your efforts to make rather complex matters easy to understand.
@nicholaswilliams4507
@nicholaswilliams4507 2 жыл бұрын
Well done! This is definitely a top 10 of your videos.
@BeechSportBill
@BeechSportBill 2 жыл бұрын
The inlet velocity of the project Pluto cruise missile nuclear reactor (ram jet engine) at the Nevada Test Site test facility needed to be Mach 3 @ 2000 degrees to PREVENT meltdown of the flow-through reactor. The engineering in that monster building and equipment was INSANE! There was a 50 acre area covered in air tubes made from something like naval rifle barrels, pumped up with submarine compressors to provide airflow for a 5 minute test. The air tank field fed four huge tanks filled with 2” stainless ball bearings that would be heated to 2000 degrees. I visited there in 2000.
@tonyduncan9852
@tonyduncan9852 2 жыл бұрын
I was an apprentice at the NGTE Pyestock supersonic wind tunnel (now a cow pasture). Thanks for updating me a little. Sixty years. . .
@alexisgervais8716
@alexisgervais8716 2 жыл бұрын
For me, this has been the best explanation of any scientific/engineering concept ever, so thanks man!
@skuzlebut82
@skuzlebut82 2 жыл бұрын
I'll tell you what. This past Thursday here in Kansas, it felt like we were in a hypersonic wind tunnel. Driving down the road, the paint on my car became an ablative heat shield. Seriously, on Thursday in Kansas we had steady 40 mph winds with gusts over 60 mph, all of that with a blue sky and not a cloud in sight.
@ChuckD59
@ChuckD59 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Scott, for the follow-up to the Fluid Dynamics 101 I took a couple decades ago. It's always fascinated me and I really expanded my knowledge with your video. Well done!
@dragumand
@dragumand 2 жыл бұрын
Haven't caught up with your vids in a while. This one rocked! Thank you!
@christheswiss390
@christheswiss390 2 жыл бұрын
You are sooo becoming my favorite YTer- I'm totally hooked!
@wills.9807
@wills.9807 2 жыл бұрын
A good example of air changing temperature with pressure change can be seen in places that use pneumatically actuated machinery. It's common to have bell-style water traps inline just before the line goes into the machine. The compressor releases high pressure air into the distribution lines, cooling it in the process. From there if the atmospheric conditions are right, generally meaning the local dew point, the now colder air causes water to condense in the distribution lines, then the air flow pushes it downstream towards places you really do not want water going. The bell traps basically use gravity to catch it before it causes trouble. The bells are usually made from a clear polycarbonate so the operator can see if they're filling up. During the muggiest days with high dew points, it's not uncommon to have to drain the water multiple times a day.
@rogerwilco2
@rogerwilco2 2 жыл бұрын
This might be one of your best videos. You explain it very well, even things that I as a trained engineer didn't know.
@kornykidd0
@kornykidd0 2 жыл бұрын
Great explanations. I performed NDT inspections on a hypersonic wind tunnel back in 2013. It was an awesome place and thing to see. The pressures were massive.
@truegret7778
@truegret7778 2 жыл бұрын
Very cool lecture, Scott. Having grown up in the Space Shuttle era, and not far from Edwards AFB to watch the shuttle land and be transported off on the back of the modified 747 - this is the most beautiful image I have seen. Thanks for finding and sharing it.
@Simon_Rafferty
@Simon_Rafferty 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Lot's of stuff I knew (and some I didn't), but hadn't put together into the application of a wind tunnel!
@XJapa1n09
@XJapa1n09 2 жыл бұрын
One of the only channels I like the videos before I even watch them. Thanks Scott
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