It's a 13 year old DVD rip - be lucky that KZfaq hasn't dropped it to 144p quality by now....

@@littlewillie65 I'm not ungrateful. Merely pulling legs. Peace and long life. 🖖

@@klaxoncow Live long and prosper

hahah a POTATO??? hahah that's so funny and original, it's funny because potatoes aren't cameras! XDDDDDDD

​@@Mr.LimekillerHahahaha is funny because it's true!

Ghost 2224 CT0226 yessss

Funny how the two fractions hate each other but so many ideas in them

Say hello to Jedi Master Tree Ptoo-Ker. 😁

Looks like he hates them, and is about to slaughter them like animals. Not just the men, but the women and the children too.

@@ZephyrBW factions, not fractions

Yes. And as the decades have passed, I have grown to appreciate "Amok Time" more and more: brilliantly creative writing, great character development, gripping music, etc.

@@RevelQT You could make an argument that tradition is important to them. Vulcans used to be very different historically. It was only logic and discipline that saved them.

@@dandeliondown7920 Written by the legendary Theodore Sturgeon. From his IMDB page - " Coined the famed phrase "Live long and prosper" in the premiere episode of the second season of Star Trek: The Original Series (1966), "Amok Time" (according to an interview with Leonard Nimoy)."

@@dlc1119 They knew how to tell a story in those days. They knew how to flesh out characters and relationships. They knew how to write. SPOCK: Captain, there is a thing that happens to Vulcans at this time: almost an insanity, which you would no doubt find distasteful. KIRK: Will I? You've been most patient with my kinds of madness.

@@dandeliondown7920 Sturgeon's non-ST work is worth a read. (And he also wrote the episode 'Shore Leave' which was fun.)

And (based on her eyebrows) the attendant is Vulcan, so the actress must display shock in a very controlled way. Well done indeed.

@@dandeliondown7920 Her controlled expressions reminds me of the time my relatives gasped politely at the red dress my cousin Reba wore at my grandmother's funeral. I told them it could've been worse; she could've worn a multi-coloured mu-mu like Mama Cass wore or a white mini dress. I believe one of my aunts said:" Oh, dear. Don't even suggest that to her, child!"

@@virginiaconnor8350 ROTFL 😃

@Virginia Connor Reba sounds fun!

Sad because she had to marry Koss to help her mother regain her job and sad that her mother died to get divorced from Koss to marry Trip (if she did) and then break up with him.

I think that T''Les understood what T'Pol meant to Trip. When Trip is getting dressed in her dead husband's clothes, she's brushing lint ftom his lapel and telling him that even though she doesn't approve of his and T'Pol's relationship, she does understand how he feels for her daughter. She understands that he loves her enough to let her go.

Nahhhh Trip got a smooch

in stae trek

She's allowed friends

To feel another's pain, even someone you don't necessarily like, is a sign of a truly compassionate human being. Live long and prosper.

You were never fond of him? Did he threaten your masculinity?

@@mistermysteryman107 t I totally I totally agree. Trip has been a Terril be written character from the start. It’s not until light season three actually, starting to like them fact most the cruise didn’t start actually progressing as real characters until around that time. For me, it wasn’t until Manny Cotto began writing episodes and taking the best aspects of these characters and actually doing something with them. Seasons, one and two Trip was about as convincing an engineer as Jimmy Joe Meeker as an oil man (50 points if you got that joke). You couldn’t take anything he said seriously. He got an aerospace engineering because he worked on riverboats? Do you think that was a joke in there but he’s being absolutely serious. Not to mention both he and archer are just incompetent assholes. Berman and Braga really did this show dirty. The show is hamstrung since broken Bow. But they are small moments throughout the first two seasons that just scream Star Trek exploration, and the Donathan new era of humanity. None of it was explored. One of my favorite line some really small one purchase shows the potential of what the show was gonna be about and it’s a really small line. It’s an archer in trip are discussing the Warp five engine. “Neptune and back in six minutes.” that line always stuck with me and I wish I got more like it.

In the UK, it is.

I prefer the books where he didn't die - and the plans for a fifth season in which he didn't die, either. This series suffered from uneven writing beyond just about any other Star Trek. Sadly. So much to like here, but, boy, there sure had some lousy moments and his death was one.

@@ethelryan257 I still have trouble believing Trip died. There was a video that showed Trip leaving the Enterprise to go to another ship like as described in the first book, "The Good That Men Do". They cut out that scene to add that silly holoprogramme with Riker and Troi. Trip faked his death to get disguised as a Romulan to infiltrate them. He gave a note to Archer to give T'Pol. She was to go meet Trip and know that he was still alive. That too was deleted.

he would have got over it. life is not just about "her".

@@sebastiannoir5712 I agree.

Death's too easy.

Ooooh the sarcasm is strong with this one.

Really what happened

@@ZephyrBW Same thing, but a Ferengi.

@@hobanagerik What happened?

It's kind of weird - while Enterprise was running, I thought Blalock was a person of color. When I first saw her off the show (with her pale skin and blonde hair) I was a little confused. I don't know why I thought she was POC, but there you go...

I agree with you on that - he seemed a little less uptight after the V'ger incident. In general though, I notice there seems to be 2 type of Vulcans, ones that suppress their emotions and ones that control them (Tuvok's teacher in the episode 'Gravity' seemed like one of this type).

@@littlewillie65 Being inside McCoy probably helped too... And being brougbt to life by his friends at such a price. Because the need of the one outweigh the need of the many.

Maybe the Vulcan tax code is more logically structured.

I think everyone did, right there with you on that one.

she is a very erotic woman, just something about her, makes her desirable

Ew. Just gross. Why do men like you see women as nothing but sexual objects.

That's nice and all, but it's no more canon than my fan fiction novel that has her grand daughter marrying Archers great grandson.

That should have been part of this series.

Yeah, but then they'd have to pay royalties to someone...

Let's be honest, its a good job you aren't redoing Enterprise then

I know, and the way the ended it made it that much worse.

Louise Smithson Season 4 Episode 3 (Home)

You should look for some of the Korean dramas available on various streaming services. They haven't forgotten how to do the romance/rom-com stories right.

Yes, considering where and when it happened -- but it was nothing compared to the full blown romp they had in the episode "Harbinger"...

Oddly enough, this is one of the few videos that KZfaq hasn't made a transcript for -- perhaps because it's copyrighted material...

@@littlewillie65 it should include closed captions with copyright under Ada laws that been passed long ago in 1980s or before that I think someone forget to turn closed captions or subtitles on before uploading this video

I can understand the sentiment, I really can - but T'Pol was doing this to protect her mother. It was difficult enough for her as it was - Tripp storming in and objecting would only have made it worse. He knew that, and loved her enough to not interfere.

Except Helen of Troy was already married and wanted to leave - T'Pol agreed to this mess to save her family's honor.

Well, she was on Vulcan...🤪

@@littlewillie65 Lol

"Home"

4x03

Yes, in a later episode he "released her from her vows"...

The thing is, T'Pol was put in a position where she didn't have much of a choice. I think this marriage was probably harder on her than anyone else.

To be fair to T'Pol, she didnt plan for any of this. When she invited Trip home, she thought it was empty, but because of Vulcan shenanigans, her mother was there. Then that pointy eared bastard showed up still expecting her to marry him, all the while her mother pushed her to do so. A quiet vacation needlessly turned into family drama.

Vulcans do arranged marriages which are agreed upon at seven years old (Vulcans have a mating drive every seven years after maturity). So T'Pol has no choice but to uphold her family's end of the contract. But one or both parties can annul the marriage. T'Pols husband did this in a latter episode and Spock's wife did this too, sometimes this process will involve a fight to the death if it is challenged.

@@MajorGeneralVeers If I was running the Federation I would exclude the Vulcans for having these backwards customs that violate the children's right to choose.

@@cyrusol That's not how the UFP works buddy, every member species has considerable autonomy. If Vulcans in general have no issue with their customs them why ban it?

Well, they are fictional so...

Yeah, but according to Memory Alpha, the novels aren't canon. Of course, the novels probably said that because they did it that way in the actual show.

I made a mistake I meant to say in the novels they did end up with each other

@@thomassalois3508 My comment on them being canon still applies - but even I wrote a similar storyline into my fan fiction - not with Tripp and T'Pol, but with similar characters. So I think most people were disappointed with the way they took the story.

Season 4 Episode 3 (Home)

To save us from subtitles? Because the similar ceremony in Amok Time was in English maybe...

KZfaq only gives you so many options - I could have put it dead center with the links on either side. I chose what I thought worked best, and delayed it to the end where it wouldn't matter. Also, I didn't letterbox it, Paramount Home Entertainment did. Also, this video is almost 14 years old - something I did on a whim. Little did I know it would become the most watched thing on my channel, so yes, I'm going to put at least some promotion on it, since I'll never make any money from it (although with my paltry few subscribers, I may never make any money from anything on KZfaq)...

@@littlewillie65 I've seen others put they watermark smaller and elsewhere on the screen. Maybe you need to update your options.

@@charlescox290 If they are, they are put in during the original editing of the video, not in youtube studio. Or maybe, if you pay money, you get better options. Allow me to repeat, this is a FOURTEEN YEAR OLD VIDEO. When I made this video, there were a lot fewer options than there are now. I'm making no money on this - and on this video I never will. If the placement of links bothers you so much, why don't you go on Amazon and buy the original series on DVD or BluRay.

Yeah, but it really did seem like a good-bye kind of kiss...

Dude, this was 13 years ago!

That's in an alternate timeline: season 3, "E=mc2" (great episode with lots of character development)

The alternate timeline was between T'Pol and Archer, the normal timeline there was a daughter Robocop created to inflame tensions between Earth and Vulcan.

She married him to protect her mother -- I don't remember the whole story, but her mom was in a bad situation that this marriage would help resolve in her favor, so T'pol did it for her.

Remember the P'jem incident when Archer and crew opened up the door in that monastery and found out that this "technology free" area was actually chocked full of it? The truth was that the Vulcans were spying on the Andorians. All the pictures of the truth were brought to the council. Later in "Home", we find out why T'Pol's mom really stepped down from her position at the Science Academy. The High Command blamed T'Pol for the discovery of the P'Jem listening station and they punished her family for that. Marrying Kos was a way to restore honor to T'Pol's family. Kos would speak to a highly placed person in his family who would influence the Vulcan High Command to drop the matter of the incident as a favor. That was the condition given T'Pol's mom being able to regain her position at the Science Academy. we all know that T'Pol began to hate her mother after this and they were not reconciled until her death at the edge of the Forge. Mum became a follower of Syrran, a Syrranite. Archer, carrying Surak's Katra, brought the original writings of Surak to the High Command and so began the "Vulcan Renaissance" as it were, a revival in the wake of the discovery. Kos, with the reason for the marriage now gone, releases T'Pol from her promise.

He's also the son of an influent minister as well as security officer.

May be there's something T'Pol knew we don't. She did break up with him long before she came home it seems.

I don't think android technology was very advanced at the time of Enterprise, so there's that. And to quote Sarek, when asked why he married Amanda, "It seemed logical at the time." My thinking has always been that there are 3 types of Vulcans. Ones that suppress their emotions, ones that control their emotions, and ones that just hide them from other Vulcans. I fully realize that this is an interpretation based solely on how the various actors chose to portray the Vulcan characters they portrayed, but it seems reasonable to me.

Vulcans do not lack emotions. They are trained to suppress them.

​@@waydegardner7373Exactly. They suppress them in all public settings, but privately (and behind closed doors) they might let their guard down.

He may not have been allowed to - in 'Amok Time' it was T'Pring that issued the challenge, not Stonn. Tripp may not have had standing in the matter. I also think he cared enough for T'Pol to let her go to do what she thought was right.

Well, Amanda (a human female) was able to have Sarek's child, so one could assume that it would work the other way as well. There is an episode of Enterprise (actually 2) which featured a cloned child incorporating Trip and T'Pol's DNA. For more info... memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Elizabeth?so=search

I mean,the Vulcans are relatively private and secretive, and this is like, 100 years before TOS. I always took it that the Vulcans were rather distant from involving themselves heavily in the federation until at least TNG, because of the significant technological difference between them and humans.

And I bet Trip didn't talk about it much and since he 'died' a few months later, nobody else knew. I liked the openmindedness of T'Pol's mother though. She seemed rough at the beginning but turned out to be a very reasonable Vulcan female. She still had trouble to accept Trip's feeling for her daughter but didn't despise him altogether. She even talked to him about her own, seemingly dead, husband a sign of trust on her behalf.

I thought Ted Bundy had more hair...

Well, it's a DVD rip from 13 years ago - if you want Blue Ray quality go watch it on streaming.

It was what it was. A sidetrack from what could have been an interesting love story -- if they hadn't killed him off at the end...

@@littlewillie65 and she marries someone else, great script writing....not

@@chaseroberts3111 From a storyline point of view, it made some sense -- certainly more sense than just killing Tripp in some stupid accident at the end of the series.

Briefly - her husband later released her from her vows...

@@littlewillie65 Thank you.