T.S. Eliot's "The Waste Land" documentary (1987)

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Manufacturing Intellect

5 жыл бұрын

Read by noted actors Michael Gough, Edward Fox, and Eileen Atkins, T. S. Eliot’s The Waste Land powerfully expresses the disillusionment and disgust of the post-World War I era in Europe. In this program, Professor Frank Kermode, of Cambridge University; Eliot biographer Peter Ackroyd; and poets Sir Stephen Spender and Craig Raine examine the complex nature of Eliot’s influential poem, analyze its appeal, and trace the reasons why it became one of the best-known emblems of the 20th century.
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@ManufacturingIntellect 5 жыл бұрын
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@sunbry3766
@sunbry3766 Жыл бұрын
Mate, I just wanted to say. I must have watched hundreds of hours of videos you have uploaded and really benefitted from it. Thank you so much for taking the time to gather and upload the content. I have massively appreciated it
@michaeljudge5089
@michaeljudge5089 2 жыл бұрын
This is great! I do take issue with that academic who summarily dismisses Yeats. Yeats could never have written The Wasteland; but Elliot could never have written Among School Children. That does not mean that one was “better” than the other. They were simply different poetic geniuses with different poetic concerns.
@castelodeossos3947
@castelodeossos3947 2 жыл бұрын
Quite agree. Don't like Yeats on the whole but some of his poetry is of the highest order. The two poets are from two entirely different eras, meaning their style is very different, but what they say is, of course, not dissimilar. The sentiments of 'The Waste Land' are not dissimilar to those of Yeats's magnificent 'The Second Coming'. There's also his 'Easter 1916', which is the best description I've read of fanaticism, applicable to the IRA, the Neo-Cons, ISIS, and Wokeism.
@arthurdubois9978
@arthurdubois9978 Жыл бұрын
Yes agreed. But always felt Eliot was the greatest of the 20th century poet
@richardmindemann6935
@richardmindemann6935 Жыл бұрын
Yeats is great. Eliot is great. The academics rate Eliot higher, but beauty is in the eyes of the beholder.
@anonymouslakernerd7214
@anonymouslakernerd7214 4 ай бұрын
@@castelodeossos3947 What is "Wokeism?"
@mckavitt13
@mckavitt13 2 ай бұрын
​@@richardmindemann6935& in the ear...
@chewie1644
@chewie1644 4 жыл бұрын
I truly wish I had friends who appreciated such things, someone I could discuss this with. This poem may have possibly changed my life tonight. If only I were more intelligent, how I’d love to write this well.
@Andrew-jj6er
@Andrew-jj6er 4 жыл бұрын
Hey dude! I feel you, I too wish I had friends to discuss this with... But here in the comments of this video if you want there are people who can appreciate your thoughts and you can have a good discussion with. I myself love this poem, I have discovered it just a few weeks ago and I keep going back to it in my mind during the day. So many lines are burned into my memory. I particularly love the quote:"We think about the key each in his prison" because I recognize the thoughts I have during the days and nights, looking for a way to escape the prison. If there is one.
@ryanx3584
@ryanx3584 3 жыл бұрын
Give it a go.. writing flowing words and rhyme and meter etc. Im sure you could write a poem and if you keep on at it....
@vincentanguoni8938
@vincentanguoni8938 3 жыл бұрын
Yes there are people here and everywhere that appreciate our thoughts!!!
@carolannemckenzie3849
@carolannemckenzie3849 2 жыл бұрын
Your prison is only a construct of your mind Andrew.
@joshhoodrat451
@joshhoodrat451 2 жыл бұрын
I always thought my prison to be my body and it’s limitations
@christopherreynolds4446
@christopherreynolds4446 Жыл бұрын
I have been teaching AP Literature for eight years. It all comes down to a sensitivity to language, tone, etc. and critical thinking and reading which leads, if successful, to critical writing. I’ll never retire because I get the honor of teaching Eliot, Yeats, Shakespeare, Faulkner. My students discuss the texts and I love the give and take. I know no one, including my fellow teachers, who can or want to discuss these authors
@peterfrengel3964
@peterfrengel3964 Жыл бұрын
I'm a teacher made in the same mold... it's a bottomless and profound joy.
@user-ic6nj4xo6q
@user-ic6nj4xo6q 8 ай бұрын
You like to give and take with your students Christopher because you know your fellow teachers are probably doing the same. It is a most definitely bottomless and extremely profound joy that not many people know about.
@MCompton-cv1ze
@MCompton-cv1ze Ай бұрын
I teach college British and American Literature; if you would accept a morsel of instructorly advise, inspire your students to begin analytical essays with textual quotations ...
@MCompton-cv1ze
@MCompton-cv1ze Ай бұрын
​@@peterfrengel3964 Puck hath no bottom ...
@peterfrengel3964
@peterfrengel3964 27 күн бұрын
@@MCompton-cv1ze Man is but an ass if he go about to expound this dream.
@oldjack-mi8gk
@oldjack-mi8gk 4 жыл бұрын
This is the greatest thing on KZfaq.
@stellaboulton9531
@stellaboulton9531 4 жыл бұрын
By some margin.
@btang1908
@btang1908 2 жыл бұрын
Such fond memories. Our teacher made us watch this when we were 17 and studying Eliot for our A levels. Now with hindsight, nearly 30 years later, I can't help but marvel at the trust our teacher had in our capabilities and the quality of education we were fortunate enough to receive.
@acockworkorange4301
@acockworkorange4301 2 жыл бұрын
in the whole wasteland.
@shanthisachi
@shanthisachi 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent. Wonderful
@sagat666
@sagat666 2 жыл бұрын
Hmmm* I think the Jacob Bronowski interview on Parkinson, matches this admirably
@sirandrelefaedelinoge
@sirandrelefaedelinoge 4 жыл бұрын
_"I will show you fear in a handful of dust..."_ One of the most muscular lines of poetry I've ever read...
@binghamguevara6814
@binghamguevara6814 3 жыл бұрын
what does this line mean?
@debbielt514
@debbielt514 3 жыл бұрын
@@binghamguevara6814 Strength of your Mind..
@zharapatterson
@zharapatterson 3 жыл бұрын
Evelyn Waugh's book a Handful of Dust.
@doellt4753
@doellt4753 3 жыл бұрын
@@binghamguevara6814 Death without meaning.
@jonathanwalkerpiano
@jonathanwalkerpiano 2 жыл бұрын
@@binghamguevara6814 The "handful of dust" is an obvious reference to the soil thrown by mourners on a coffin once it has been lowered into the grave. But there is another reference that gives the passage a much richer meaning. If you look back to the Latin/Greek epigraph at the beginning of The Waste Land. The Sybill of Cumae was once a beautiful prophetess in the service of Apollo. Desiring her, Apollo asked her to name her wish, and she told him that she wanted to live as many years as there were particles in a handful of dust. She rejected his advances, but he granted her wish. She forgot, however, to say that she wanted perpetual youth, and over the years, she grew ever more decrepit. The lines Eliot chose are from a Latin comic novel; at an extravagant dinner party, the Sybil is referred to, now a tiny wizened creature. Some boys ask her (in Greek) what she wants now, and she replies that she wants death - further life in this state of debilitation is meaningless for her, and only a burden. Eliot may be saying, through this reference, that a life lived out in futility is a more fearful thing than death itself.
@SheylayamGullath
@SheylayamGullath 3 жыл бұрын
I felt so moved watching this again after 30 years. Eliot's voice will be present there in the mountains whenever I go visit a cousin.
@mondopinion3777
@mondopinion3777 2 жыл бұрын
These narrators are highly educated and cultured. But I was a Kansas farm girl in the1950s when i first read Prufrock and The Wasteland, and they spoke directly to me. This, I think, is the measure of Eliot's genius. What the thunder said -- words beyond this finite world..
@jbOneEarth
@jbOneEarth 2 жыл бұрын
And that's the good and bad of The Wasteland. Great lines to not a great poem make.
@kevinlawrence2229
@kevinlawrence2229 2 жыл бұрын
"I had not thought death had undone so many." Just an amazing line. I think of this line everyday when I watch crowds I belong to (very Whitmanesque) joining me on the subway.
@manuelroco8510
@manuelroco8510 2 жыл бұрын
Sí de verdad es un verso impresionante! Pero hay que recordar que Eliot "roba" de otros poetas, en este caso menciona uno de sus poetas favoritos, o sea Dante. Inferno III, 55-57: “si lunga tratta di gente, ch'io non avrei mai creduto che morte tanta n'avesse disfatta.”
@weemalky
@weemalky 2 жыл бұрын
An allusion to Dantes inferno. So clever.
@timwatts9371
@timwatts9371 2 жыл бұрын
I think of that line every time I walk across London Bridge
@timwatts9371
@timwatts9371 2 жыл бұрын
@@weemalky The whole poem is replete with references to other work. What an astonishing mind he must have had.
@electraruby4078
@electraruby4078 2 жыл бұрын
@@timwatts9371 Such as" Goodnight sweet ladies" in the pub scene. Ophelia's lines of course!
@danielclemence3689
@danielclemence3689 4 күн бұрын
Michael Gough, Edward Fox, and Eileen Atkins were absolute treasures. Listening to them is a magnificent experience.
@triconcert
@triconcert 2 жыл бұрын
This was a fantastic experience! So many years later and still so relevant. Edward Fox is really superb and embodies the poem. HIs is a musical and rhythmic rendition which makes the lines luminously intelligible.
@matthewmeselson1562
@matthewmeselson1562 Жыл бұрын
I’m in
@jonisaacson9253
@jonisaacson9253 2 жыл бұрын
As a Minnesotan, I'm pleased to see that Eliot could attract 13,700 fans to Williams Arena at the U of MN, almost as many as show up there for a basketball game.
@mickzammit6794
@mickzammit6794 Жыл бұрын
I am 71 years old and I've loved Eliot since I was a small boy. The dry Sauvages,little Gidding and others were what I loved to read in silence and at night. I always have had a deep feeling that there was prophesy among his words. There are wordlers of which I'm one and then there's Eliot
@ashthebash66
@ashthebash66 2 жыл бұрын
Great to hear Stephen Spender. One of his poems opening lines has become a constant mantra for me since I first read it in my early twenties - 'we must live through the time when everything hurts'
@conniekampas7074
@conniekampas7074 Жыл бұрын
I have listened to the video many many times. It has helped me tremendously especially when I have felt low. Thank you so much. The voices of those who read certain parts of Eliot’s two poems brought them to life and I have enjoyed listening to them over and over again. I really cannot thank you enough for these beautiful experiences ❤!!!
@conniekampas7074
@conniekampas7074 Жыл бұрын
I have listened to the video many many times. It has helped me tremendously especially when I have felt low. Thank you so much. The voices of those who read certain parts of Eliot’s two poems brought them to life and I have enjoyed listening to them over and over again. I really cannot thank you enough for these beautiful experiences ❤!!!
@augustosarmentodeoliveira3023
@augustosarmentodeoliveira3023 4 жыл бұрын
Michael Gough's reading is simply sublime
@timwatts9371
@timwatts9371 2 жыл бұрын
I haven’t heard that reading. Have you hear Alec Guiness’ reading?
@nehavashishtha1072
@nehavashishtha1072 Жыл бұрын
I’m beginning to love Mr. T.S. Eliot more and more as I am ageing. It is astonishing to see the amount of rationality and thoughts Mr. Eliot was loaded with from such an early age.
@InsideTheGlobe
@InsideTheGlobe Жыл бұрын
Our professor of Modern English literature at the University often used to say, if you wanna know the spirit of modern English poetry, there's only one option for you, that's TS Eliot. Really, this person has combined all the knowledge he got from his studies of around the world and poured that into his poetries, especially in The Hollow Men and The Wasteland, to make these "unreal".
@sr-gc6vh
@sr-gc6vh Жыл бұрын
He was an anti semite and a religious conservative.
@michaellangsdorf1683
@michaellangsdorf1683 2 жыл бұрын
I just discovered this channel and I’m grateful that the first video I’ve watched was about T.S. Eliot, one of my favorite poets. The view of humanity of “The Wasteland” seems particularly resonant during these times.
@kathymyron1658
@kathymyron1658 4 жыл бұрын
I barely breathed while listening to this. Wonderful!
@amssaid9583
@amssaid9583 3 жыл бұрын
Y breath at all
@cjoe6908
@cjoe6908 2 жыл бұрын
Wonderful presentation. I read T.S.Eliot in college, 40 years ago, together with other stuffs and the only poet from the 20th century that I still read time and again, is T.S.Eliot. The rest is gone.
@cjoe6908
@cjoe6908 2 жыл бұрын
@Dylan Wilde As bigmouthed of you
@SuperGuanine
@SuperGuanine 2 жыл бұрын
@@cjoe6908 ??? what does that mean?
@cjoe6908
@cjoe6908 2 жыл бұрын
@@SuperGuanine That was a reply to a reply now deleted by somebody I was replying to.
@trcochran5947
@trcochran5947 Жыл бұрын
I could read this poem every day for a year and still not come to its end.
@peterfrengel3964
@peterfrengel3964 Жыл бұрын
I spent a summer reading and re-reading it - looking up the allusions, the snippets in other languages, the critical commentary, the context. It really does pay off with repeated reading and study. I teach it to my seniors now.
@Lyndanet
@Lyndanet 5 ай бұрын
Try reading it for 30 years and never tiring of it
@trcochran5947
@trcochran5947 4 ай бұрын
@@Lyndanet I will! :)
@anonymouslakernerd7214
@anonymouslakernerd7214 4 ай бұрын
You can't get through it either, huh?
@saimariaz5299
@saimariaz5299 3 жыл бұрын
Eliot is one of the most wonderful poet in the history of English Literature.
@mckavitt13
@mckavitt13 2 жыл бұрын
He's v great, but I'd say Shakespeare.
@TedPope
@TedPope 2 жыл бұрын
Eliot needed an editor to tell him The Waste Land contained at least twice as many words as it should and to verbally if not physically slap the anti-Semite out of him.
@mckavitt13
@mckavitt13 2 жыл бұрын
@@TedPope Interesting info. Thank you. Q. The him at the end means himself, no?
@jamesdolan4042
@jamesdolan4042 2 жыл бұрын
In terms of range, topics, relevance, and invention WB Yeats far exceeds TS Elliot as the greatest English language poet of the the 20th century.
@mckavitt13
@mckavitt13 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamesdolan4042 Yes!!
@dennisroyhall121
@dennisroyhall121 3 жыл бұрын
Oh, but what an immensely beautiful and most welcome surprise to greet one’s day! Thank you a million times over!
@Roshandoug
@Roshandoug 2 жыл бұрын
What a lovely programme! Thoroughly enjoyed it... Some excellent personalities here whilst Eliot is just so utterly brilliant. Full stop.... Thank you to whoever posted this gem.
@winniewang3846
@winniewang3846 3 жыл бұрын
I love this so much and couldn't thank you more for this while living in the wasteland!
@conniekampas7074
@conniekampas7074 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely beautiful. I loved hearing Thomas Stearn Eliot’s voice. What a true treasure. Thank you
@nickmiller76
@nickmiller76 2 жыл бұрын
Stearns
@dion1949
@dion1949 3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful in every way. I especially appreciated Peter Ackroyd, as I have read some of his novels.
@hazelwray4184
@hazelwray4184 3 жыл бұрын
His book (biography) on Eliot is very good.
@Mahlerweber
@Mahlerweber Жыл бұрын
Enjoyed this, especially the actors. Thank you for posting.
@poemsandliterature3011
@poemsandliterature3011 3 жыл бұрын
16:10 Vorticism 21:00 best explanation - underneath the surface exist murmerings of past poets 22:57-26:26 Game of Chess narration 27:25 Range of characters 27:31 Conversation in pub discussed 29:42 River Tent is broken 30:58 Personal life of Eliot - Marriage Unreal city 35:06 Key figure - Tiresias
@poemsandliterature3011
@poemsandliterature3011 2 жыл бұрын
watched this again. Can watch it again and again. Timeless poem, and a wonderful documentary ..
@genabla
@genabla 2 жыл бұрын
Thak You🙏
@Cromwelldunbar
@Cromwelldunbar 2 жыл бұрын
A wonderful document…Cannot thank you enough for making it available for our viewing….
@thomaskirkpatrick1134
@thomaskirkpatrick1134 5 жыл бұрын
Another Fantastic Melvyn Bragg Production!
@pchabanowich
@pchabanowich 2 жыл бұрын
Michael Gough is sublime, his subtlety spellbinding...👍
@michaeldillon3113
@michaeldillon3113 5 күн бұрын
Yes wonderful. So many good English actors other than Johnny and Larry .
@zamiadams4343
@zamiadams4343 5 ай бұрын
Such an amazing poem, Burroughs mentioned it as an example of the cut-up technique.
@curtrice6060
@curtrice6060 Жыл бұрын
How do I thank, youtube, for such wonderful variety! ❤
@gregbee8791
@gregbee8791 3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful! Not seen this for over 30 years.
@blackbird5634
@blackbird5634 Жыл бұрын
I've met fully qualified college professors who say The Wasteland is NOT about the world after WW1. They have the stones to suggest it is more than that. Of course there are layers, it has depth, but it is a vision of life after the first, most devastating event in human history.
@victoriazinovieff308
@victoriazinovieff308 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic documentary, so glad I found it..
@iansmith511
@iansmith511 9 ай бұрын
What a wonderful film, Eileen Atkins is superb too. Yes,I am very impressed with this measured piece of work.
@eoharafisher
@eoharafisher 2 жыл бұрын
Lots of reading Love Song of J Alfred Prufrock. Also amazing poem.
@musicloverkathy
@musicloverkathy 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful and prophetic. These fragments I have shored against my ruin. I will show you fear in a handful of dust. Lips that would kiss form prayers to broken stone.
@tmac8892
@tmac8892 4 жыл бұрын
I should have been a pair of ragged claws, scuttling across the floors of silent seas.
@lyndapierson6338
@lyndapierson6338 3 жыл бұрын
my mother in a nut shell
@TheHorse_yes
@TheHorse_yes 3 жыл бұрын
"Mutt! You mutt!" *throws food*
@binghamguevara6814
@binghamguevara6814 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheHorse_yes “and with a whimper I’m f****g splitting jack”
@youtubesucks2821
@youtubesucks2821 2 жыл бұрын
"And he meant it"
@poetryjones7946
@poetryjones7946 2 жыл бұрын
TS Eliot is one of my very favorite poets, but I just can’t listen to him perform 😸😹❤️ Wonderful documentary, I didn’t know this existed! Thank you so much for sharing it!
@iainrobb2076
@iainrobb2076 2 жыл бұрын
He was not a good reader of his own work. Nor were Yeats or Pound. Eliot sounds like he's impersonating Churchill, while Yeats and Pound both sound insane.
@castelodeossos3947
@castelodeossos3947 2 жыл бұрын
Ha ha. Horse for courses. I think TSEliot himself and perhaps Alec Guinness are the only ones who know how to read Eliot's work properly. Same for EPound (after many years still remember listening to a bad recording of his reading: 'Pull down thy vanity. I say pull down.') Tom Hiddleston's rendition of Pound's 'And the days are not full enough', for example, is sincere but to my ear not good at all. Poetry is best read without adding any sense of profundity -- let the poetry speak for itself.
@iainrobb2076
@iainrobb2076 2 жыл бұрын
@@castelodeossos3947 A problem I have with Elliot's readings is that, being a poet myself and a pedant with metre, Elliot's notion of metre was democratic, in the sense he believed the reader was right when reading a poem to either pick up on it or ignore it. So when he read his work aloud he ignored his own metre. He knew what he'd intended acoustically with his lines, but didn't read them that way. To my ear, it makes for a flat reading. When I write my own poetry, I'm so fastidious that I place accents over stressed syllables, a la GM Hopkins, that I don't think some readers will pick up on, so as to avoid any confusion.
@castelodeossos3947
@castelodeossos3947 2 жыл бұрын
@@iainrobb2076 Believe Yeats too insisted on 'metrical reading'. Believe both types of reading can be overdone and be well done. The most disagreeable is, to me, when someone 'enacts' the poem. Actors are worst of all.
@iainrobb2076
@iainrobb2076 2 жыл бұрын
@@castelodeossos3947 Oh, I totally agree with that. It's why I can't bear most modern adaptations of Shakespeare. The actors just have to read the lines, and read them well. Instead, they read enjambed lines directly into one another, ignore all accentuation, and gibber, shriek and yell at a breakneck speed and volume, and all that comes out is an incomprehensible din. They feel they need to overact to get the point across instead of paying deference to the intentions of the poet.
@lindsaytulloch8316
@lindsaytulloch8316 2 жыл бұрын
This was a fascinating documentary about a poem that I have loved since I first read it at the age of 20. And the actors reading the excerpts are absolutely marvellous - especially Eileen Atkins, in my opinion, but the two men too. With one bizarre exception, in the scene on the Thames, where the Rhinemaidens are quoted: Weialala leia, Wallala leialala. Never heard anything so bizarre in my life. Could he not have listened to a recording of Rheingold, to find out how it's supposed to be pronounced?
@mckavitt13
@mckavitt13 2 жыл бұрын
Eileen Atkins is so young! A great reader & lovely looking. 😍
@mckavitt13
@mckavitt13 2 ай бұрын
"Fear, in a handful of dust." A perfect line.
@electraruby4078
@electraruby4078 2 жыл бұрын
Oh this is so powerful! To describe bleakness of spirit so well. What a genius.
@writeract2
@writeract2 2 жыл бұрын
I so love the plummy RP tones of the readings.
@scantii2117
@scantii2117 2 жыл бұрын
So good to see these documentaries on youtube I've had them on my old video cassettes for decades and would watch them from time to time but I see you haven't got the Proust documentary which to my mind is the best one and I still have it but it's getting grainy and unclear love to see the Proust documentary on your channel.
@lexistenceestailleurs
@lexistenceestailleurs 3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love your channel
@deborahrobertson8606
@deborahrobertson8606 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful. Thank you,
@Idmoment
@Idmoment 10 ай бұрын
Can never get enough of Eliot’s beautiful mind
@Vic-on5ic
@Vic-on5ic 2 жыл бұрын
Wonderful presentation!
@marilyngreen6872
@marilyngreen6872 2 жыл бұрын
Fabulous. Thank you.
@ManInTheBigHat
@ManInTheBigHat 2 жыл бұрын
I remember this poem from 10th grade English class. So glad my school covered this work. I can't imagine that happening now.
@nickmiller76
@nickmiller76 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed, far too white.
@barrypenobscott9882
@barrypenobscott9882 Жыл бұрын
Yes, they're more interested in promoting the likes of Maya Angelou, or Eminem.
@peterfrengel3964
@peterfrengel3964 Жыл бұрын
I'm teaching it to my seniors at this very moment.
@RwakaendanaMambo
@RwakaendanaMambo 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for uploading this. It explains a lot about Eliot's insights to life during his time and his predictions for the future to come based on his experiences at the time.
@manuelroco8510
@manuelroco8510 2 жыл бұрын
Intento comprender algo, lástima que mi inglés sea tan pobre pero la fascinación que ejerce la poesía de T S Eliot es inmensa y me "obliga" escuchar todo lo escuchable (aunque poco o nada entienda) para conocerle lo más posible!
@SheylayamGullath
@SheylayamGullath 2 жыл бұрын
Escuchar poesía en su lengua original es como un mantra; aunque no entendamos sus palabras ésta obra prodigios en uno y nos da gozo inefable.
@emilio5737
@emilio5737 2 жыл бұрын
@@SheylayamGullath Te llevará tiempo entenderlo en inglés, pero la recompensa será sublime. A no desistir.
@Euracaille
@Euracaille 5 жыл бұрын
*Thank you* for sharing this with us all! Great contributions from all involved made it a delight indeed to help further explore and celebrate that work of art.
@spellboundtarot1264
@spellboundtarot1264 3 жыл бұрын
What a masterpiece!
@lesleymcshanemitchell9651
@lesleymcshanemitchell9651 Жыл бұрын
How I loved this Thank you
@richardmcneil6538
@richardmcneil6538 Жыл бұрын
So fantastic! Brilliant!,,
@ruivog
@ruivog 3 жыл бұрын
Most excellent doc.
@elliegasser1575
@elliegasser1575 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@seanmellows1348
@seanmellows1348 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent stuff.
@mikeletaurus4728
@mikeletaurus4728 2 жыл бұрын
This is brilliant.
@CippiCippiCippi
@CippiCippiCippi 3 жыл бұрын
According to poet Craig Raine 46:04, there are three main strands in the poem: fertility myths, Christ & the resurrection, and buddhist reincarnation.
@robertmuncaster3510
@robertmuncaster3510 3 ай бұрын
A hard read but he brings out the meaning through the sprung rhythm. Well done.
@Healthymuscles_gr
@Healthymuscles_gr Жыл бұрын
Eileen Atkins reading T.S is the best thing I have heard in my life. 🔥💪 And also La Muerta from Juliet Stevenson.
@dmswanson5694
@dmswanson5694 2 жыл бұрын
Superb.
@vijayadas3317
@vijayadas3317 2 жыл бұрын
The only one single poem which has the status of a classic; a classic of epic proportions, I remember how e I electrified we were when this poem was taught to us by our English professor way back in the early 70s,
@deeplearningpartnership
@deeplearningpartnership 3 жыл бұрын
One of the best.
@susanvictoriamorley6705
@susanvictoriamorley6705 Жыл бұрын
Superb
@anuradhainamdar8967
@anuradhainamdar8967 Жыл бұрын
What splendid explanation though I had this poem in my M.A couse.I found " the waste land " very difficult to understand. It is now that I have understood it a bit. Now also I find the poem abstruse. Thanks for uploading this video.
@peterfrengel3964
@peterfrengel3964 Жыл бұрын
Calculus, physics, trig, etc., can also be abstruse. They take effort to learn, and reward that effort.
@mckavitt13
@mckavitt13 2 ай бұрын
Yes, Atkins is truly great ❤
@c.s.hayden3022
@c.s.hayden3022 2 жыл бұрын
I’m reading “From Ritual To Romance” now and this compliments.
@castelodeossos3947
@castelodeossos3947 2 жыл бұрын
'this complEments'?
@artieash6671
@artieash6671 3 жыл бұрын
A great pleasure.
@poetryjones7946
@poetryjones7946 8 күн бұрын
Prufrock still blows this away.
@michaeldillon3113
@michaeldillon3113 5 күн бұрын
In the mid 1970's i ended up as a student at the Royal Sea Bathing Hospital Margate . It was a difficult time for me and i recall sitting in a shelter on Margate seafront ,on many occasions, contemplating life and my place in it . This was most often in winter when english coastal towns can be particularly bleak . As part of my contemplations i had started reading about Eastern Philosophy. Later on i cane to know if T S Elliott and The Wastekand and noticed the vedantic references therein . A couple of years ago i had a rae visit to Margate and discovered a Blue Plaque on that seafront shelter informing that Elliot had written some if ' The Wasteland ' there !
@bashisthadevthakur5010
@bashisthadevthakur5010 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome
@etiennenobel5028
@etiennenobel5028 2 жыл бұрын
great stuff
@tattoofthesun
@tattoofthesun 5 жыл бұрын
I much appreciate this
@kristine6996
@kristine6996 3 жыл бұрын
I adore YT for this ✨
@michaeldillon3113
@michaeldillon3113 5 күн бұрын
I read a story once - maybe reported by Princess Margaret - that T S Elliot once gave a private reading of ' The Wasteland ' to the Windsors at Buckingham Palace . Now we may have cause to thank the late Queen , and her parents , for contributions to Britain , but we could never accuse them of being overly intellectual. Apparently they thought the reading hilarious and had a barely restrained fit of the giggles . I say this to point out that appreciation of poetry is a matter of sensitivity rather than ' breeding ' .
@stjohnperse17
@stjohnperse17 4 жыл бұрын
21:35 "...echoes of Villon, " For Francois Villon, XV C. french poet.
@cyclopslester10
@cyclopslester10 4 жыл бұрын
Speak again, to us, Villon.
@sibengerard1856
@sibengerard1856 3 жыл бұрын
When you read Eliot's Criticism of Shakespeare, you get the feeling he secretly felt not thought, that he could do better than the latter,at certain intervals. But of course he wasn't going to mention it.
@siamcharm7904
@siamcharm7904 2 жыл бұрын
many times he is shakespearian esp in 4 quartets.
@markwestphal4437
@markwestphal4437 Жыл бұрын
Poor Phlebas the Phoenician, a fortnight dead...they just panned right over the part that was immediately accessible, recognizable, and touchingly simple. I love the polyglot international references and character shifts in the poem's entirety, but that lovely short section is so universal, it seems a shame to not at least tip at hat towards it.
@susydyson1750
@susydyson1750 Жыл бұрын
a jewel thank you
@nathanbranson9149
@nathanbranson9149 2 ай бұрын
My Gen Z student deeply connect with "The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock." They connect with this overthinking and his self-loathing.
@dion1949
@dion1949 3 жыл бұрын
Ackroyd speaks of Eliot's "music," which recalls Ackroyd's novel "English Music".
@srothbardt
@srothbardt 2 жыл бұрын
Look for "He do the police in different voices," a line from "Our Mutual Friend" by Dickens. This is apparently where Eliot got the idea and title for the original version of "The Waste Land."
@arifq123
@arifq123 2 жыл бұрын
That was very good.
@TheWhitehiker
@TheWhitehiker 3 жыл бұрын
Read well, for the most part; well interpreted, with only a few quibbles.
@mns8732
@mns8732 2 жыл бұрын
The poem with notes and editing by pound was available at one time.
@stephenhammel4168
@stephenhammel4168 Жыл бұрын
After listening to this documentary and reflecting for a moment on the relevance of the whole poetry game and the big gamble and importance so many poets as well as readers of it find it so compelling I suppose is this. Poetry and the poets who write poetry are determined to do it well for starters. So much time , effort and reflection goes into it. Some poets would even say that it’s not really them writing but some other force or entity has taken over them , directing them as it were to put down so many important ideas that nothing else matters than this. To do it well for after all anybody can see the importance of what they have to say. So very important. Surely we all can see this.Yes the people who write poetry are committed to doing it well. And they do do it well, writing poetry. Yes the poets and poetry they write is a task that must be done well so important are these words they have to say. Which is why the majority of poetry through out the ages is so god awful boring I wouldn’t wish it on anyone who’s concerned with a decent life. There are a few , Charles Bukowski, Robinson Jeffers who didn’t give a damn about doing it well but more concerned about getting the word down and talking and describing real life than worry about some college professor who probably needs to get laid rather than thinking that it’s really about reading a good poem that makes it all worthwhile. You need to go to a cat house and get your monkey spanked or maybe become homeless and living out of your truck while detoxing off heroin before you start describing the beauty of goats coming down the mountain trail.
@iansmith511
@iansmith511 9 ай бұрын
Whilst I seriously sympathise with your sentiments, I find your sexual suggestions quite bizarre, clucking from heroin wouldn't help neither, I am sure you know what your mean though, thank you for your interesting comments and analysis .
@scottfoster3548
@scottfoster3548 6 ай бұрын
I agree and similarly, as I age it is/was those moments as you describe at a cathouse or on some drug misadventure that resonate. STILL, I remember those days waking up on the floor or in the backyard of a drug den AND looking at the others spruin about who lost the same battle I did the night before and get that smell. For a moment you think this is a gnarly way to live but you have to keep moving through the others on the floor back to your truck and a slightly impaired drive home. It is those drives home that you clearly see how all the prior generations lived and dealt with their demons and realize what is important in life. ONLY to go to bed and wake up to forget that and get back to the mundane.
@1968KWT
@1968KWT Жыл бұрын
The poem was published exactly 100 years ago in the October issue of _The Criterion_ #TheWasteLand100
@1061andy
@1061andy 2 жыл бұрын
We did this for A level, hadnt got a clue what it was all about !
@KokowaSarunoKuniDesu
@KokowaSarunoKuniDesu 2 жыл бұрын
I saw Fiona Shaw's performance of the Waste Land at Wilton's, as close to Rat's Alley as you can get. It was very atmospheric.
@KokowaSarunoKuniDesu
@KokowaSarunoKuniDesu 2 жыл бұрын
And the Waste Land is just as relevant today as it was in 1922.
@tomripsin730
@tomripsin730 2 жыл бұрын
16:57 Every time they show this guy I picture Alex and his droogs rushing in, toppling his bookshelves and having at him and his wife.
@rerite2
@rerite2 2 жыл бұрын
== "Singing in the rain..."
@jbOneEarth
@jbOneEarth 2 жыл бұрын
I think Elliot was right in his ambivalence about his evolving work for both the confidence, command, and wallop of its powerhouse lines and its clang of hodgepodge associations and singsong. English is not a rhyme rich language. Repeat. Giving Elliot the benefit of his own doubts, I wish he'd had the confidence to resist Pound's meddling. If a work in progress, it had been best left at that hopefully to mature over time. The distillation encouraged by Pound devolves into both nursery rhyme and obsession bordering on the trite. The exploration of Elliot as a man savaged by inequities yields insight and compassion more valuable than the evaluation of his poetry. Art after all is at best an offering of human size. A life bears divine imprint and inspiration. For that I thank this effort most.
@Robutube1
@Robutube1 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting this. He was, of course an American and I would assume that his English accent is an affectation given that he didn't move here until he was 27. It is so far back (although presumably of its time) that he's hard to follow at times. Fortunately, we've got Jeremy Iron's masterful interpretation.
@hazelwray4184
@hazelwray4184 3 жыл бұрын
He's of Anglo American heritage. Eliot spent summers in Cape Ann which has the English named Gloucester, Essex and Manchester-by-the-sea. He went to Harvard at the turn of the century. Listen to the accent of Eleanor Roosevelt, wife of President F. D. Roosevelt. The poem is a modern masterpiece. Still relevant.
@Robutube1
@Robutube1 3 жыл бұрын
@@hazelwray4184 Thanks for those points of detail Hazel - it helps explain his accent more fully. I do love the poem too, especially Jeremy Iron's reading of it.
@timwatts9371
@timwatts9371 2 жыл бұрын
It sounds very affected. Rather like Harry Enfield’s character, Mr Cholmondley-Warner
@siamcharm7904
@siamcharm7904 2 жыл бұрын
@@timwatts9371 sounds like a boston brahmin which he very much was.
@timwatts9371
@timwatts9371 2 жыл бұрын
@@siamcharm7904 They sound like that? Thanks for that piece of information. I’ve heard a few different readings and I thibk Alec Guiness is the best.
@asamhas2012
@asamhas2012 2 жыл бұрын
The greatest thing I've ever heard.
@clive7092
@clive7092 Жыл бұрын
Great readers. Fox is utterly magnetic. Gough too. Not forgetting Eileen Atkins.
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