If it wasn't for the later technicality I would agree (on the lesson). I have no experience with toyota's transmission tech data, but their own TPB's were wrong on suspension installation on this generation. Considering engineers are behind the technical manuals and and technical parts bulletins/catalogs, I am more than willing to believe that tech #2 was working off from bad information from the manufacture, and "master tech" aka tech#3 ran into this issue after losing money diagnosing why on another truck the issue was persisting and had reused that knowledge later. That master tech saved you some money, after losing some money. He definitely is a stand up guy, because Toyota's own manuals are full of nonsense and extra steps. They are only a step below Boeing in bullshit time wasting maintenance procedures. Third gen tacoma's are well designed, and can be very easy to work on, but the engineers have no idea how to maintain them.

Easier to get it right than a dip stick if you ask me

Appreciate it!!

Great to know!

looks good!

@@ChloeKuo well thank you very much. So does your brand spanking new bumper! Good job Chloe. I need to hire you here at shop. I have a few 16 Tacoma parts. I have a bed side , tailight,inner bed panel, maybe a grill , TRD headlight. I belive a tailgate. If you ever get damaged and need just let me know, Ill hook you up. I do mostly GM trucks,but few Tacoma’s so I’ve ended up with some parts. They been up shops loft for months. And a word of warning from a Kentucky friend..... DONT TAKE THE VAX! Covid jab is far more dangerous than Covid ever will be. Media not telling truth to people. Goodluck. See ya later.

Take it to an AAMCO instead. They have all types of OEM fluids

I love AMSOIL products and use a lot of them, however I will not use their signature atf ever again, for one reason. IT STINKS. It is absolutely the worst smelling ATF of all time, and it does not have to be that way. With the Toyotas, I stick to the Toyota ATF WS. It is about the same price as AMSOIL and is great oil, AND it smells good. Thank You Toyota! I did use the AMSOIL signature I’m my old 94 Camry, and My garage stunk for almost a week. AMSOIL needs to correct this before I use it again, and I did let them know my thoughts on it.

@@brianw8963 I used it in my car. Yeah it smells but OMG a billion times better than the Toyota WS.

@@brianw8963 shifting when cold was like it was already up to temp.

@@DuckMcDuckinson Well,perhaps the old oil You removed was not Toyota ATF WS. The WS actually has a pleasant aroma, I’ve done many and never had stink with even 100K mile changes that had original Toyota oil.

@@brianw8963 oh no you’re mistaken. The WS I drained was in ok condition but the sig series did smell but it was way better than the WS in performance, NOT smell. It smelled bad you’re right. Yeah the WS had a good smell for ATF fluid. I used LIQUI MOLY ATF1800 for my BMW and it smelled like expired orange juice. Their OE motor oil that AMSOIL makes smells bad as well. Their sig series motor oil smells pleasant tho.

It seems to be about the same--24 on the highway which is pretty good! Nice to hear that yours went up after the flush

I just got 16 TacoOR. About to hit the 60k miles. I better take it to the dealer for that matter. I currently get about 20MPG on the highway.

Abrupt gear shifting is totally alleviated, and makes the truck feel 100 times better when you re gear to 4.88

Dealership probably just filled it when it was to hot. I don't trust them at all. They sabotage people all the time.

@@stevemace1725 ... that is a good point

Sounds like that is the consensus. Metal shavings can cause a lot of problems for sure. After this experience, I likely won't flush mine unless it needs it!

5th generation 4runner owner here. If you plan to keep truck long term then I recommend flushing tranny oil every 50K miles. The transmission isn't sealed, just doesn't have a dipstick. I have flushed my 4runner tranny. In a nut shell.... drain pan, remove pan, c/o screen, reinstall pan with new gasket, refill with oil to level, start engine and go through gears stopping at each gear for a few seconds. Now, find the tranny return line at front of vehicle near radiator, open this line and aim into catch container, start engine and prepare to turn off when either first spurt of air or I use a clear container with graduation marks and run engine till I see 3 liters come out. Repeat this till you have gone through total fluid capacity and fluid is nice and bright red. Replace return line as you found it. Finally, bring transmission fluid to correct level by running engine, wait for temperature window and fill till fluid runs out of fill port and slows to drip. I use a simple vacuum pump to fill and makes this task very easy. Also, spend the 20 or so dollars and purchase factory manual as this will have the Toyota procedure that dealership techs use.

If You don’t have a scan tool, You can use one of those red dot laser thermometers, however, you must find a “hot spot” to point it at and be sure to use that spot when adjusting the level . I tried a relatively cheap harbor freight General I have and compared it to my scan tool temperature. Surprisingly it was very accurate.

@@brianw8963 I've wondered about that. I wouldn't use the temp gun on a freezing cold day but I would imagine that would be accurate in tee-shirt weather. Plus, Car Care Nut has a video on a procedure of jumping two contacts on the OB2 and manipulating the ignition on/off in a sequence. One could then compare the results with a heat gun and see if there is any difference.

Makes sense! And it's not the cheapest service!

Small update on this, it is VERY user replaceable, you just need a little knowledge, a small tube with a funnel and a catch pan with measurements. Took me an hour to do with the guidance of a friend of a friend who has 3 tacos. Took 4 quarts of fluid and a new filter and ready to go!

Transmissions dont use "oil" they use trans fluid. No one should ever mess with a trans on any newer vehicle because almost all of them require complicated special procedures that generally only dealership mechanics know and can do 100% correctly. and if the dealer doesnt know if the vehicle takes WS, and check first, there is a serious problem... Lol. Also toyota only has one method of changing trans fluid on this specific trans, and the trans fluid does not go through the radiator, third gens have a separate trans cooler in front of the radiator, so it is a closed loop not connected to radiator.

@@dsprecision4782 The little radiator trasn cooler that you see in front of the big one only comes with the towing package 😎 so clearly you have no idea how it works

@@boluchhh Yes, but how many v6 tacomas come with the tow package vs. how many dont? I dont know how it works but your calling trans fluid oil and telling people to ask their toyota mechanic to use WS as if the mechanic doesnt already know... Ok bud lol

@@dsprecision4782 Mechanic’s can be dumb sometimes, trans oil/ trans fluid same 💩

No. There were no leaks so I'm not sure why it was low in the first place, unless it came from the dealership low

Improper fluid replacement procedure. I'm guessing the first person to ever replace the fluid didn't check the level with the engine running and fluid temp between 35-45 degrees C. Probably added fluid until the check level plug started overflowing with the car off.

Transmissions don`t consume fluid .

I agree with a comment above, improper fluid replacement at some point. Who knows if that was from the previous owner or from one of the many times it went to the shop to be fixed.

@@ImMIRADOR that wouldve made it overfilled(unless they waited till it was piping hot to drain it from the overflow tube)im thinking it was another factory fuck up im reading about alot of these

I am experiencing some hard shift on my 2021 Tacoma 4x4 off road. Did you take to the dealership? Also did they mentioned why it was 2 quarts low?

@@cesarrobles7805 I did take it to the dealership and originally they told me I would need a new transmission. When I dropped it off to the dealership for the new trans they called me up and said I was two quarts low and tried blaming who ever did the oil changes for not knowing which drain plug to pull. Since I’ve done all the oil changes myself I know thats not true.

It is the TRD performance exhaust system!

No. I'd love to learn though! I have zero experience with body work... are you local to Southern California by any chance?

Where did you buy your truck ? Was it built in Mexico ? I also have a 22 and when cold it seems to be in neutral …slips and then goes into gear…and get a surge when slowing sometimes .

Its not that hard see my comment above or below where ever they place it.

He did a complete flush

@@ChloeKuo Nice.

Could have been from the factory. That’s what others have pointed out, but there was (and currently is) no leak so I’m not sure.

@@ChloeKuo low from factory. Geeze thats scary

Very astute and relevant question. I have read that some latest gen Taco trannys are low from the factory. But in this case, the question is whether there was there rough shifting before the accident? If no, where did the fluid go ??

416 to empty here , much better