Best Spinning Reel for $300 in 2024 | Sustain VS Saltist MQ VS Slammer IV

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4 ай бұрын

In this video, we discuss some reels in the $300 price point and compare three great options.
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@tailwateroutfitters 4 ай бұрын

Do you think $300 is too much for a fishing reel?

@jaaron2834 4 ай бұрын

For a tiny little spinner$300 no fucking way..! For a conventional bait caster, ... I'll spend up to $1000…! I don't like spinners nor do I like using them… those that prefer them can't cast a conventional reel efficiently or correctly....to save their lives…🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Spinners will always have this problem, ... Line twist! It doesn't matter if you have a swivel... It will twist your line and that's why you get wind knots and birds nest... For those that don't believe you get birds nest from a spinner... Then you're not clear on the concept of how line comes off your spool… and they have an uneducated thumb.. In a nutshell…

@user-cj7co7qm7o 3 ай бұрын

What do you thing about the....abu garcia revo 2 mgxtreme?

@M--76 2 ай бұрын

No, I have a couple of Shimano reels over $400 and a few around the $200 mark. You do get what you pay for, but there is a point of diminishing return. I think the sweet spot is somewhere in the $200-$500 range. As an example, I have experience with the Shimano Stella which is in the $900 price range and cannot honestly tell the difference between that and my Shimano Vanquish (JDM import) which is around $450. Hope this helps.

@RF3seeker 2 ай бұрын

@@jaaron2834 bait casters are all american, reel your lure right up to the tip of your rod and wrist flick cast while standing on the bow of your 350hp bass boat being paddled around with foot control Minn Kota... how do you think a spinning reel can handle a 200 lb tuna?

@nate8738 Ай бұрын

@@jaaron2834I use both bait casters are good and bad in some cases but definitely can’t compare the two there different reels used for different things also have been using spinners for a while never had a knot in my line with one only an occasional line wrap on tip of the rod which doesn’t matter what reel u use so really depends on what type of fishing u do

@The-Foreigner 3 ай бұрын

I enjoyed your video. Coming from years of bait casting reels and one or two spinning reels, I rarely spent over $300 for a reel. I would love to see a review on the 2500-3000 of the Penn Authority, Shimano Twin Power XD, and Daiwa 24 Certate LT at the $500-$550 point. This is the price point I consider the high end. The reels more expensive than $600 or more is for enthusiast. I had spent my younger years fishing $100 reels. Back then the reel’s weren’t at nice as they are now for $100, but it did the job.

@kauriperene8330 3 ай бұрын

These are great video's appreciate the comparison. Can you compare within brand and their value for each please? Like Shimano Nasci Vs Stradic Vs sustain? Size 3000-4000 reels

@franciscodreyer3736 4 ай бұрын

Daiwa Caldia SW 22 is the JDM version of the saltist just for $180 amazing reel

@isam950 4 ай бұрын

what i like about Daiwa is that they match their spool capcity of braid with the rough amount of drag the reel has.

@isam950 4 ай бұрын

this 3000 saltist mq hods roughly 200 yards of 20lb braid and and 22lbs of drag. and the same for some of the other sizes.

@tailwateroutfitters 4 ай бұрын

I don’t think that’s intentional, I think it’s just a coincidence

@nestoroniFL 4 ай бұрын

I changed to Daiwa last year and I don’t think I’ll ever look back. Was a Penn guy when I was younger, then Shimano for years. Daiwa is a perfect balance of smoothness (Shimano) and durability (Penn).

@sivchhuntang2450 2 ай бұрын

Please do a comparison of Shimano Twin Power SW, Daiwa Certate SW and Penn Autrhority. Thanks

@amirspd7492 4 ай бұрын

Good job bro 😎 ❤

@xXMizuJetXx 3 ай бұрын

Love my Salitst MQ. Using a 6k for everything from blues/striper to 30lb class tuna.

@UzunKamis 3 ай бұрын

Do you mind checking if your line roller (LR) spins freely? I have 5000 nad I am having problems with the LR.

@xXMizuJetXx 3 ай бұрын

@@UzunKamis will check after work and shoot an update!

@FLFlatsmaster 4 ай бұрын

I just did a review of the C3000HG Sustain on my channel. Excellent workhorse reel for artificials

@roscoejlouis4225 3 ай бұрын

You can get any and every parts for any Penn reel in days.GOOD luck finding parts and Japanese reels here.

@butterytoast4836 3 ай бұрын

Shimano is easy to get parts for. But Penn is very easy as well. Plus Penns are very easy to service.

@butterytoast4836 3 ай бұрын

Used to mainly use Penn. I have Shimanos and Daiwas now as well. I prefer Shimano. Not a fan of Daiwa MQ reels being hard to service. They need to sell the MQ side plate tool and magseal oil.

@shakelimsontv7761 3 ай бұрын

I like the VR 50 van stal

@311hitwall 3 ай бұрын

I saw another video where they said the Daiwa doesn't even have a roller bearing in the line roller for the price.

@PinkTorpedo909 16 күн бұрын

Ok. I am not going to use my slammer with small artificial lures. The 4500 I have is a beast but I use it for mostly live bait and large lures targeting bigger fish on my kayak. It’s 2.5 years old and just as smooth as the day I bought it

@johnwilcox2951 4 ай бұрын

Sustain 🔛🔝

@WtfMarkO 3 ай бұрын

100% Penn Slammer if you kayak fish and launch out of the surf 👌

@UzunKamis 3 ай бұрын

It should be noted that the line roller of Saltist is not spinning. This yields a friction when reeling the line. You will not feel it on free reeling.

@Seconds155 3 ай бұрын

I am a seabass fisher from shore and which reel would be the best option? Penn Authority, Daiwa Certate 2024 or Van Staal VR50-75 ? I could get them around 50$ difference.

@tailwateroutfitters 3 ай бұрын

If you taken some waves, van staal all the way. If not, certate

@Seconds155 3 ай бұрын

@@tailwateroutfitters Thanks a lot for your reply, I was thinking to be in water with waders and definitely sometimes the reel could be submerged due to waves.. Just I had a clue about how smooth is the van staals in comparison with Japanese reels.. Also as I have seen VS has larger gear which gives much power to the reel. Just nee technology and refinements made me think which could be better.. *I live in Europe and didn't had a chance to try both of them till now..

@bigbahina 2 ай бұрын

Would not recommend a Sustain. Worst buy I have had yet. Mines squeaks and has a raspy sound after a year of use. My Stradic feels butter smooth and I have had the Stradic longer. Personally, I find the Sustain to be an overpriced Stradic. I'm already looking into replacing my Sustain for a Stella 5k or Saltiga 5k. Hope this helps. Tight lines from Hawaii!

@tailwateroutfitters 2 ай бұрын

Yea thanks for sharing! You'll definitely not be disappointed with the stella, or saltiga for that matter. But stick with Shimano since you already have their stuff!

@311hitwall 3 ай бұрын

I know the slammer has an automatic bail flip. How many other reels have that feature?

@tailwateroutfitters 3 ай бұрын

Everyone is dumping those now. It’s terrible for the components to do that. It’s like shifting your car to reverse with your foot on the gas

@311hitwall 3 ай бұрын

@@tailwateroutfitters Oh i didn't know that. Not that familiar with spinning reels.

@fishingislife34 2 ай бұрын

Sustain the 💪💪💪💪

@andyvaldez212 25 күн бұрын

forget all these, just go SaltX

@tailwateroutfitters 23 күн бұрын

Video coming soon on the SaltX 😃

@stevedixon5318 5 күн бұрын

It is totally beyond me why anyone thinks they need to spend 300 on a reel, I mean if you got it to burn then good on you.

@tailwateroutfitters 4 күн бұрын

Yea you definitely don’t need to spend that to go catch fish

@artificialslinger9730 4 ай бұрын

Actually the next step down from the sustain is the vanford , then a step down from that is the Stradic. As for these 3 reels the sustain and saltist are very close but i have it #1 Sustain #2 Daiwa #3 Penn I wouldnt use a Penn if you paid me 😂 The only con with the saltist mq and daiwa in general os how thin and cheap their handles are. Ive seem so many people bend and or break the handles Also i wish people would stop using mag seal as a selling point. Thay mag seal fails more then it protects As for line capacity if someone needs more then 150 yards for your typical inshore stuff they should find a new hobby imo. Unless going for shark , cobia, tarpon , monster jacks 150 yards is way more then enough. Daiwa reels I feel are definitely smoothest reels out there but little to smooth. I feel shimano has the smoothness in that perfect sweet spot. And if buying any daiwa or Shimano reel i always buy them straight from japan. So much cheaper then the US. For some reason the states add such a price hike vs other countries

@tailwateroutfitters 4 ай бұрын

True about the vanford, I just used the Stradic so each comparison was about $100 difference. Hopefully they get that handle issue figured out. I just mentioned magseal since it’s a feature they hype. Many people seem to be getting gomexus for their daiwas

@quickmender9127 4 ай бұрын

Where do you buy directly from ? I've been looking around for a good website to buy reels from.

@artificialslinger9730 4 ай бұрын

@@quickmender9127 I like Asian portal and digitaka

@tailwateroutfitters 4 ай бұрын

@@quickmender9127 Tailwatershop.com we just don't have JDM

@coreystone7122 3 ай бұрын

150 yards on a small reel is fine. But on a large reel like a 5000 to 18000 that's not enough. Sending out a balloon or kayaking out a bait off shore or rocks needs a fair amount of line. So I'd rather have more then less line for options. My next reel will be a 10k saragosa. Most of the components are the same as the Stella but at a 3rd of the price.

@BCY95 4 ай бұрын

Add $150 more and get the twinpower instead of the Sustain for better spec

@artificialslinger9730 4 ай бұрын

But the twin power from Japan it's the same price as the sustain here in the states. I buy all my reels straight from Japan. Same reels wayyy cheaper prices

@imclxtch3501 27 күн бұрын

@@artificialslinger9730how do you buy them from japan

@JebusCrist 3 күн бұрын

Picked the three least comparable reels possible

@tailwateroutfitters 3 күн бұрын

🫡

@paleryder2 2 ай бұрын

Sustain

@anthonypacion-chanthabouas8186 4 ай бұрын

Sustain feels too similar to a stradic so I'll take the saltist, although I dont like the fact it still has a power handle in the smaller sizes.

@claudetolbert5621 2 ай бұрын

Agree

@jose-desmenriveraortiz4654 3 ай бұрын

sustain

@joekassay6650 4 ай бұрын

Sustain then vanford not stradic

@user-qq1vo2so2r Ай бұрын

😮❤❤❤

@280Ackley 4 ай бұрын

Penn

@AryaAdventures 4 ай бұрын

Daiwa and Penn all the way🤙🏽💪🏽

@BenTurner-kx7zv 4 ай бұрын

💯

@artificialslinger9730 4 ай бұрын

I'm a Shimano fan but daiwa I can see but Penn ? 🤢

@BUBBY7Z7Z7 2 ай бұрын

@@artificialslinger9730Shimano are hands down the noisiest/least durable reels out there

@artificialslinger9730 2 ай бұрын

@@BUBBY7Z7Z7 few things I've got Shimanos that are 20+ years old still original parts. Shimano is always #1 in sales Shimano is probably one of the most used brands on the professional level Problem is guys ( maybe yourself ) who toss their gear around vs taking care of your stuff. Thus it falls on YOU not the REEL. Also that noise you hear is the line roller bearing Literally $5 bearing and 5 minutes of your time good as new. ( 9/10 most guys are to lazy to fix it themselves ) then blame the reel for not being " durable". I've had daiwa , Penn , Mitchell , Florida fishing products and so on all have line roller bearings go bad. That part is the most abused part because it's consistently in contact with the water. That should be common sense my dude #Facts #ShinanoIsKing

@BUBBY7Z7Z7 2 ай бұрын

@@artificialslinger9730 btw you are going against what your saying by saying guys who toss their gear around is the problem??? It’s a damn reel?? You ever got a 40 in snook in a dock or mangroves? I have and idgaf I’ll dunk any penn I got all day or bang it across the backside of the pilings if I got to get that fish! Keep babying those shimanos and posting vids goober

@Cluelessseafishing 2 ай бұрын

Better off getting cheaper reel and pay more for rod

@-NWJNS- 4 ай бұрын

yeah i'll take anything from daiwa or shimano but not a penn

@hldemi_fishing 4 ай бұрын

Gosa still eats them for breakfast

@yea_i_podagee_so_what 3 ай бұрын

as a Shimano guy i agree BUT Saragosa is a "saltwater" reel that alittle too bulky for certain applications.

@marceloamador92024 21 күн бұрын

Daiwa saltist , then any daiwa MQ. Sustain just feels cheap. Penn just cant take a beating

@FinessaYT 4 ай бұрын

They’re not really in the same class of reel cmon two of them are proper saltwater reels

@yucenbettalombokbarat8721 3 ай бұрын

Giveaway sir

@nicsksbj779 3 ай бұрын

Why do People like Penn Spinning reels yeah penn international is a great conventional but I hate the look of Penn spinning reels😅

@karimmurcia3213 4 ай бұрын

I CHOOSE DAIWA AND ITS NOT EVEN CLOSE !!!!

@artificialslinger9730 4 ай бұрын

I CHOOSE SHIMANO AND IT'S NOT EVEN CLOSE !!!! absolutely love fishing and personal preference it's cool to see and hear why others choose the gear they use. I'm a gear head so I can yak all day about gear 😂

@budysmtt3583 3 ай бұрын

Can I get spinning reel for free😮

@tonysalinas4439 3 ай бұрын

I just got an 80$ AliExpress reel I'd put against these 3

@M--76 4 ай бұрын

The only right answer is anything but a Penn.

@TankerShell 2 ай бұрын

Why you don’t like penn?

@M--76 2 ай бұрын

@@TankerShell They just aren't anywhere near the quality of Shimano or Daiwa.

@BUBBY7Z7Z7 2 ай бұрын

Caught a spinfisher at the inlet jigging and took it home and greased it and fished it for years! Had a idiot I was fishing with stuff his bow and basically sank his boat with me and my penn slammer3 in it and was submerged under water for an hour Atleast and never took that reel apart or greased it and have fished it for Atleast 3-4 years now

@M--76 2 ай бұрын

@@BUBBY7Z7Z7 I look at it like this having used them all. Penn is like Ford/Chevy/Dodge and Shimano and Daiwa are like Mercedes/BMW/Audi. They just have better refinement and everything about them is smoother and more precise.

@TankerShell 2 ай бұрын

@@BUBBY7Z7Z7 i agree they are tough and i had the same story with my Penn Slammer version 1, a large fish took it from a dock and been under water for more than one month, I finally retrieved it and now it’s like the first day I bought it and with no problem