Shandong Carrier off Philippines as RIMPAC Targets China With USS Tarawa Sinking | Taiwan Talks

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6 күн бұрын

Days after the world's largest maritime exercises kicked off in the seas around Hawaii, China's Shandong aircraft carrier was spotted off the Philippine island of Luzon. This year’s RIMPAC is the largest iteration to date and organizers say a decommissioned warship will be sunk in a live-fire sinking exercise, or SINKEX. Reports say the exercise will use the former amphibious assault ship USS Tarawa, which has a displacement of 40,000 tons, equivalent to the PLA's Shandong carrier. Beijing's state-run Global Times has meanwhile called RIMPAC a "muscle show" and the U.S. a "paper tiger." Today, we ask what makes this year’s event significant, what message it sends to China and how effective it can be in deterring aggressive behavior by Beijing in the Taiwan Strait and in the South and East China seas.
Our guests:
Tiehlin Yen
- Project manager, Taipei School of Economics and Political Science Foundation (TSEF) Center for Peace and Security (CPAS)
Tony Hu
- Former U.S. Department of Defense senior director for China, Taiwan, Mongolia
Ronan Fu
- Assistant research fellow, Academia Sinica Institute of Political Science

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@botvenikmikail-qv6od
@botvenikmikail-qv6od 4 күн бұрын
The combined JAPAN-PHILIPPINES PACT says it ALL...❤❤❤❤
@laosasean8482
@laosasean8482 Күн бұрын
China got JL-3 even your US master are not dare to cross the redline.
@gaocori7413
@gaocori7413 Күн бұрын
meaningless
@simonriley118
@simonriley118 6 сағат бұрын
​@@gaocori7413your life is meanjngless for ccp
@gaocori7413
@gaocori7413 5 сағат бұрын
@@simonriley118 why must my life meaning for CCP.I have a good job and a good family,i live in safe and convenient.you troll know nothing but chaos
@nicofranco3432
@nicofranco3432 3 сағат бұрын
​@@gaocori7413If its meaningless then why does your idol CCP syndicate keeps crying about it?
@HoneyLover64NthngHppnd89
@HoneyLover64NthngHppnd89 4 күн бұрын
😂😂😂 "shandong" All 3 carriers are not combat capable, just for show 😂
@ex0duzz
@ex0duzz 4 күн бұрын
Sounds like your brain and not the carriers. 2 are operational, one is still in sea trials and testing etc.
@ellenariban7061
@ellenariban7061 4 күн бұрын
@@ex0duzz 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
@markrivera8587
@markrivera8587 4 күн бұрын
Yes all show can't even launch a helicopter
@rathas881
@rathas881 4 күн бұрын
Sitting ducks carrier, "made in china" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@CEmptor
@CEmptor 2 күн бұрын
@@ex0duzz "Combat capable" and "operational" are entirely different.
@rgacusan2002
@rgacusan2002 4 күн бұрын
From the Philippines with love, we support Taiwan!!!
@ConcernedAmerican-USA
@ConcernedAmerican-USA 4 күн бұрын
Absolutely fantastic commentary with the panel of experts. This is the first time I've seen Taiwan Talks and it won't be my last. Keep up with the incredible journalism and expert panelists! The United States stands with Taiwan, the Philippines and its allies.
@user-tb5dp1ok7o
@user-tb5dp1ok7o 4 күн бұрын
GOOD EVENING MY RESPECTED AND LOVABLE SISTERS AND BROTHERS INDEPENDENT TAIWAN SENDING LOVE FROM PHILIPPINES ❤❤❤🇵🇭🇵🇭🇵🇭
@loongdechuanren1008
@loongdechuanren1008 2 күн бұрын
They dare not say "independent" simplily now, you know why?
@PeteHagen-sm4tn
@PeteHagen-sm4tn Күн бұрын
@@loongdechuanren1008 Trump is coming.
@levigutierrez7809
@levigutierrez7809 4 күн бұрын
God bless the people of Taiwan❤😊
@gaocori7413
@gaocori7413 Күн бұрын
jusr bless you and your country
@rl8571
@rl8571 4 күн бұрын
No one talks about the multi Billion Dollar fishing industry China has turned into when they started their fishing fleets go global. The south china sea alone generates at least a billion for them.. which unfortunately is taking away from immediate claimants like Philippines and Vietnam, who still just fish for their countries while China has turned full global capitalism on fishing.
@Aqualastic
@Aqualastic 3 күн бұрын
So true, in their selfish effort to dominate the world commerce, China is going all out in exploiting resources anywhere, and much larger than western countries do.
@christopheredelweiss7724
@christopheredelweiss7724 4 күн бұрын
Same vibe as a Karen getting a tantrum after not getting an invitation to a party XD
@Rattler808
@Rattler808 4 күн бұрын
😂😂😂
@Enfantterrible-oc2iy
@Enfantterrible-oc2iy 4 күн бұрын
The mainland people should have supported Taiwan and the free world in toppling the last bastion of communism in Beijing.
@limk8994
@limk8994 3 күн бұрын
Hahahaha! 🤡🤡🤡
@jemai15
@jemai15 2 күн бұрын
China is definitely isolated in the indo Pacific. China's only user friend is Russia who has its own isolation in Europe. There will be no other friend to come to their aid incase problem arises in both side of the world.
@OrlyAruta
@OrlyAruta 54 минут бұрын
Not really that worsed china still have Laos,Cambodia,Nkorea,Sri Lanka and Thailand as allies..😂
@allanreysambu9721
@allanreysambu9721 4 күн бұрын
We love Taiwan 🇹🇼 💜 from Philippines 🇵🇭
@jhustbie
@jhustbie 3 күн бұрын
China is a paper dragon.
@PapaDutch
@PapaDutch 3 күн бұрын
Excellent presentation
@zeniehudson7098
@zeniehudson7098 4 күн бұрын
China should pay attention and reform their behavior.
@heylo6604
@heylo6604 4 күн бұрын
If your house is surrounded by your enemy sleeping with your neighbour and pointing the gun to your place. What do you do ? Are you not trying to get a neutral ground in between as a buffer line ? Your enemy is from other area ( is not your neighbour) but your neighbour is not listening to you.
@LoC28C
@LoC28C 3 күн бұрын
As long as Taiwan, the Philippines being a proxy of the USA do not provoke then there will be no escalation.
@yaucharles91
@yaucharles91 3 күн бұрын
Both Taiwan and Philippines are being use a a proxy now!
@CEmptor
@CEmptor 2 күн бұрын
@@LoC28C What happen to the "Wolf Warrior" CCP stance? 😃
@Pongzkie1974
@Pongzkie1974 4 күн бұрын
Next topic should be the impact of Japan-Philippines RAA defense pact which is about to be on inked on Monday, July 05, 2024.
@keurikeuri7851
@keurikeuri7851 3 күн бұрын
Philippines sent ships to RIMPAC last time but this time we don't and only sent Filipino observers instead this is due to based from our military all of our ships are busy patrolling the territories.
@ray.b.75
@ray.b.75 4 күн бұрын
Many Filipinos with Chinese blood probably have ties with Taiwanese Chinese rather than main-land Chinese as Taiwan is closer and linked to the Philippines via the very small island chains that are not visible on most world maps.
@breakwhiskey2863
@breakwhiskey2863 4 күн бұрын
China's CCP will have dream....to defeat the U.S.A....but..... then turns to nightmare. Xi Jinping wakes up and felt relieved that it was only a bad dream😂😂😂😂😂😂
@yaucharles91
@yaucharles91 3 күн бұрын
I think it is your dream to come up with such story!😅
@breakwhiskey2863
@breakwhiskey2863 3 күн бұрын
@@yaucharles91 😂😂😂😂😂
@laosasean8482
@laosasean8482 Күн бұрын
China is not afraid of US anymore. They have the same fire power as US, so nobody would be stupid enough to start the war
@superduper5514
@superduper5514 4 күн бұрын
China, please don’t show off your Tofu carrier unless you’re showing your muscles to Ethiopia or Somalia!
@markrivera8587
@markrivera8587 4 күн бұрын
Tooooooofuuuuuu!!!! Carriers rule!!!!
@ellenariban7061
@ellenariban7061 4 күн бұрын
🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂😂
@heylo6604
@heylo6604 4 күн бұрын
Seems like you don't know how painful is the war . Don't make a joke on war. It is not funny. The peaceful situation is now only changed if only one side fail to restrain
@manuelilagan3054
@manuelilagan3054 4 күн бұрын
Philippines should stop recognising the one china policy
@JamminJack20
@JamminJack20 4 күн бұрын
Great panel.Yin Tony is always a great guest to the show
@petermelville5524
@petermelville5524 5 күн бұрын
A couple of these guests have issues communicating with clarity. The US has 11 CSGs and 9 ESG’s. The E is for Expedition and is typically the purview of the US Marines. Each E.S. group is comprised of a number of ships centered by a small Carrier. That carrier will have extensive air capacity, from helicopters to fighter jets meant to support sea to terrestrial action. The Shandong would make for a great RIMPAC exersize target.
@johnnanong8756
@johnnanong8756 4 күн бұрын
So true, and I could actually understand them since not all are that familiar with US Navy structure. Like the 11 CSGs corresponds to their 6 Commands and each command has an average of 2 CSG (usually each will be dispatch alternately). A lot of people didn't realize that US "Helicopter" Carrier, which I believe they've classified it as Amphibious Assault Ship, carries F-35Bs, and Harrier (not sure if they remove this one). In short, US Helicopter Carrier is carrying multi-role fighters which what Japan will be also doing. US Carriers will carry the F-35Cs. A lot of countries helicopter carrier don't carry MRFs and purely just helicopters since they don't have MRF capable of launching from such type of ships. Take for example China, its helicopter carrier is only around 30m short than the US, and its only 10+m shorter than Japan, but it only carries helicopter.
@markrivera8587
@markrivera8587 4 күн бұрын
Man Shandong a target it may sink itself just by anchoring itself
@andrean2247
@andrean2247 2 күн бұрын
Houthi, hamas, hezbollah : bet
@ronaldcasanillo
@ronaldcasanillo 4 күн бұрын
Participating Countries Australia Belgium Brazil Brunei Canada Chile Colombia Denmark Ecuador France Germany India Indonesia Israel Italy Japan Malaysia Mexico Netherlands New Zealand Peru Republic of Korea Republic of the Philippines Singapore Sri Lanka Thailand Tonga United Kingdom United States of America
@user-cn7ie1pw5q
@user-cn7ie1pw5q 4 күн бұрын
Republic of Pluto
@lostlogic6911
@lostlogic6911 4 күн бұрын
@@user-cn7ie1pw5q Including imaginary country isn't going to make the RIMPAC anyless real.
@johnskinny7657
@johnskinny7657 4 күн бұрын
Get out of here ​@@lostlogic6911
@MrTagahuron
@MrTagahuron 4 күн бұрын
China: 0.
@zenaidadelossantos1922
@zenaidadelossantos1922 4 күн бұрын
bakit kaya di nasali vietnam..
@kabisayago
@kabisayago 4 күн бұрын
China was crying
@ShaneShaneshiny
@ShaneShaneshiny 4 күн бұрын
From the indonesia with support taiwan ❤️😍💖
@galaxyA-mv8xo
@galaxyA-mv8xo 4 күн бұрын
Hayssss... China. We Philippines and China have a good and stable relationships if china is focusing on deplomacy and freedom.
@botvenikmikail-qv6od
@botvenikmikail-qv6od 4 күн бұрын
TARAWA IS A USUAL PHILIPPINE VISITOR...OR A DEFENDER...❤❤
@azetv7384
@azetv7384 2 күн бұрын
watching from west Philippines Sea
@cmdkaboom
@cmdkaboom 4 күн бұрын
That carrier is laughable,.
@davec6146
@davec6146 3 күн бұрын
Thank you; great information and analysis!
@johnnymichaelconales2226
@johnnymichaelconales2226 4 күн бұрын
Utilizing MDT allows us the opportunity to enhance our military capabilities in order to counter China. While we may not be able to directly compete with their military strength, we can strategically deplete their forces while awaiting support from our allies. This can only be achieved through the unity of ASEAN nations having a defense treaty, similar to NATO.
@limk8994
@limk8994 3 күн бұрын
Asean couldnt care two hoots for nato and pinoy. Wake up !😆
@williamstearns7490
@williamstearns7490 4 күн бұрын
How cute. The PLA Navy; the terror of fisherman, cargo ships, and pleasure boaters. Did they have to bring a tugboat with them again?
@blackpepperboy
@blackpepperboy 4 күн бұрын
Is Taiwan a friend of the Philippines? will you adhere to UNCLOS when it comes to every countries EEZ? you guys also claim the southchina sea
@ariesvida7847
@ariesvida7847 3 күн бұрын
The paper dragon reacts. The paper aircraft carrier is all for show.
@user-ko5ul7yi1x
@user-ko5ul7yi1x Күн бұрын
"Appear strong when you are weak." Friendless bully shows off.
@romeoETmike
@romeoETmike 4 күн бұрын
Shandong is a Floating Tin Can.
@mannymany4423
@mannymany4423 4 күн бұрын
once the Philippine govt couldn't take anymore the pressures from its citizens to fight back when assaulted with axes, they will fight back. I don't think that's a win-win situation for all nations. This SEA dispute will become a global problem if not peacefully resolved by the United Nations. Another Ukraine in the making. Could be Phil or Taiwan, or maybe both.
@timbosley8307
@timbosley8307 13 сағат бұрын
It would be great to see more South American navies participate, and to have Taiwanese join-in. They should allow PLAN observers to be present. The PLA needs to understand that neither Taiwan, nor the United States fights alone.
@rickmitchell7835
@rickmitchell7835 4 күн бұрын
Participated in Tarawa operational evaluation in 1976.
@TheTruth-88
@TheTruth-88 4 күн бұрын
Wasting time and money.. china is busy building belt and road initiative..
@Youseff_re6lk
@Youseff_re6lk 4 күн бұрын
You mean china is busy burning roads and bridges
@Zelphyn
@Zelphyn 3 күн бұрын
Yes, it's a muscle show, but a real one. Not made of tofu like the China. 😂
@bt4b4
@bt4b4 4 күн бұрын
We love listening to China subs…………. So funny!
@imaslob6168
@imaslob6168 3 күн бұрын
Taiwan is a country!!!!
@LoC28C
@LoC28C 3 күн бұрын
Really ? Which country is Taiwan ?
@vietnamnguyen5284
@vietnamnguyen5284 23 сағат бұрын
@@LoC28C Taiwan is the country of freedom and democracy that china of ccp never have.
@LoC28C
@LoC28C 21 сағат бұрын
@vietnamnguyen5284 LOL freedom when they are being controlled by another country called the USA? Democracy where their media and their education curriculumn and their top politicians are controlled by the CIA ? You definitely have an interesting definition of freedom and democracy.
@AETHERNAOFFICIAL
@AETHERNAOFFICIAL Күн бұрын
Show of force now, afterwards cried because of Japan-PH pact😂😂😂
@Freedom2x462
@Freedom2x462 4 күн бұрын
YAn ang dapat na magkaroon ang pilipinas! Aircraft carrier, Kahit na luma, or fixer upper, pag di tayo matuto mag land at mag takeoff sa Short runaway, hanggang lupa lang ang navies natin, Pwede ding mag practice sa airport, Sila kahit C130 naila land sa Aircraft carrier!
@zenaidadelossantos1922
@zenaidadelossantos1922 4 күн бұрын
hindi natin yan kailangan kasi pulo pulo na bansa natin.. 🤣 unsinkable pa.. ano ilalagay natin jan.. fa50 na nga lang meron tayo iilang peraso pa. hayst 🤣😆😆😆😂✌️
@panthergaming732
@panthergaming732 4 күн бұрын
​@@zenaidadelossantos1922Oo nga bbopols lang . Di nga makabili ng Multirole Fighter jets na $60M, Aircraft carrier pa na tig $8 Billion ang isa
@panthergaming732
@panthergaming732 4 күн бұрын
​@@zenaidadelossantos1922Baka matulad yan sa Aircraft carrier ng thailand na walang eroplano HAHHAHAHA
@rahulmaron
@rahulmaron 4 күн бұрын
China's "Agressive Behaviour" 😅
@JamminJack20
@JamminJack20 4 күн бұрын
TT Coffee Cups are Cool. How and where to order ?
@popongomac3540
@popongomac3540 4 күн бұрын
You Taiwan people should announced that you recognize the arbitral rulling or else you are also one of the enemy of the Philippines.
@bentot45
@bentot45 4 күн бұрын
🤣 enemy ? Gung gong
@heylo6604
@heylo6604 4 күн бұрын
​@@bentot45it is not PRC claiming of what Taiwan originally claimed the disputed islands ?
@bentot45
@bentot45 4 күн бұрын
@@heylo6604 ???? I can't understand your English, somewhat nonsense. Please elaborate.
@user-eu6oz4qq2q
@user-eu6oz4qq2q 3 күн бұрын
挺好的 既然台湾和菲律宾这么要好 菲律宾也想要 那台湾可以把太平岛送给菲律宾 反正中业岛也送了 也好给中国大陆一个保卫国土拿回太平岛的理由
@anon.6678
@anon.6678 4 күн бұрын
"Boards don't hit back"
@Fish_Ventura
@Fish_Ventura 3 күн бұрын
“It hasn’t happened yet”??
@ralphford2524
@ralphford2524 4 күн бұрын
We remember pearl harbor and the battan March and China 😮
@PandemoniumMeltDown
@PandemoniumMeltDown 2 күн бұрын
CCP will never be invited to my parties!
@heylo6604
@heylo6604 4 күн бұрын
Shame. If you cant fight... Dont bring everybody with you to be involved.
@PajazitArjoe
@PajazitArjoe 3 күн бұрын
Stop putting gasoline in the fire 🔥.
@mrbisaya
@mrbisaya 2 сағат бұрын
Shandong comes with a tugboat, right?
@marierocher4422
@marierocher4422 4 күн бұрын
Lots of funny comments about RIMPAC when it’s only to visit the PH. But it’s okay if the Pirates of the SCS roams around in illegal territories even grab some.
@richardchak696
@richardchak696 Күн бұрын
Let look at it from all perspectives. American Navy sail around South China Sea & American Navel & Air Asserts sail & flying almost 12 miles along China coast are not aggressive, only China are???...So the analogy is "American actions are done out of love & Romance but China actions are Adultry & Illicit" I am only reflecting the views from a different perspective...thinking out of the box.😅😂😂
@jteeezy275
@jteeezy275 3 күн бұрын
You have no choice, US does the same world wide 100x worst. No such thing as a benevolent power.
@choonhockong8215
@choonhockong8215 4 күн бұрын
Disappointed, the Philippines is an Asean member, and why no Asean geopolitics experts were invited to speak at this talking point.
@KasimpleVlogs20
@KasimpleVlogs20 4 күн бұрын
Coz most of the Asean State afraid of retribution if they do that thier Pro China Economy are in high stake not to mention other Asean member states that don't have claimed on that particular waters
@BOPENKK
@BOPENKK 3 күн бұрын
Artinya apa bang Toyib 🤔
@zhubajie6940
@zhubajie6940 4 күн бұрын
The Philippines have 4 MBB Bo 105 helicopters capable of delivery of 1000 kg and 3 persons from Palawan to Second Thomas Shoal. Why are these not used as a Berlin airlift to thwart the Chinese Coast Guard? Shooting a water cannon at an aircraft is the use of deadly force unlike (at least in theory) at a ship.
@aeromtb2468
@aeromtb2468 4 күн бұрын
watch act for false flags of all sides.
@passportpapi713
@passportpapi713 2 күн бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂 a muscle show huh?
@russellclimaco
@russellclimaco 4 күн бұрын
China is a rouge province of Taiwan..
@PhucNguyen-qh8wn
@PhucNguyen-qh8wn 4 күн бұрын
🤣🤣🤣 A laowhy subscriber. 🤣🤣🤣
@PhucNguyen-qh8wn
@PhucNguyen-qh8wn 4 күн бұрын
🤣🤣🤣 Still dreaming ⁉️
@markrivera8587
@markrivera8587 4 күн бұрын
Best muscle show of course man calling the pot blacker
@贾维佳
@贾维佳 4 күн бұрын
像老美一样开着航母到处跑真的很爽好吧😂
@Gingermarie745
@Gingermarie745 3 күн бұрын
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@4rct1c9Ic3m4n
@4rct1c9Ic3m4n 5 күн бұрын
RIMPAC is sending "a message" while China occupies actual maritime territory. After RIMPAC, all participating ships will go back to their respective ports while China continues to physically impose its 9-dash line. So, ultimately RIMPAC is just like a fashion show
@DONNALZARO
@DONNALZARO 4 күн бұрын
Exactly 💯
@DineshTwanabasu
@DineshTwanabasu 4 күн бұрын
None of them is a party to claim so they have to show and just leave the area. Hahaha, just a joker show.
@1963son
@1963son 4 күн бұрын
Much better than the china's toy show
@DineshTwanabasu
@DineshTwanabasu 4 күн бұрын
@@1963son China remains there and these toys will go back their home. Hahaha
@kenethantiga2534
@kenethantiga2534 4 күн бұрын
Well, logically exercise is just actually a show of capability and mentioning that it was just a show is nonsense.
@angkukuey007
@angkukuey007 4 күн бұрын
He who laughs last, laughs best. All this chest-beating and anti-China hype will come to grief.
@bentot45
@bentot45 4 күн бұрын
Uninvited 🤣 poohoo Winnie d Pooh 🤣
@narutos138
@narutos138 4 күн бұрын
If that time comes im sure this pact will get even one way or another
@PhucNguyen-qh8wn
@PhucNguyen-qh8wn 4 күн бұрын
​​​@@bentot45🤣🤣🤣 Uk rain Wolf Pack Corrupt Marcos 🤣🤣🤣
@elevendashlies6273
@elevendashlies6273 4 күн бұрын
Who's laughing 😂and who's crying 😢??? The pinkies commies???
@elevendashlies6273
@elevendashlies6273 4 күн бұрын
Who's laughing 😂and who's crying 😢??? The pinkies commies???
@stanleyhuynh1659
@stanleyhuynh1659 4 күн бұрын
From the world we support China mainland and one China policy. Taiwan should cooperate with China.
@carryroque
@carryroque 4 күн бұрын
So the Romans, Greeks, Persians, Ancient Egyptians, Babylonians, Assyrians, & Mesopotamians did not do any armed attacks when they formed their empires. This is interesting.
4 күн бұрын
The Chinese in Taiwan cry
@ChunWang-vb7yu
@ChunWang-vb7yu 2 күн бұрын
中国海军一出现,米国海军就被吓跑了
@tigerhu1149
@tigerhu1149 4 сағат бұрын
事實可能會讓你大吃一驚。 當美國海軍離開時,中國海軍出來了。 當美國海軍在南海航行三週時,中國海軍則留在港口。
@passportpapi713
@passportpapi713 2 күн бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂 a muscle show huh?
@popongomac3540
@popongomac3540 4 күн бұрын
You Taiwan people should announced that you recognize the arbitral rulling or else you are also one of the enemy of the Philippines.
@PhucNguyen-qh8wn
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🤣🤣🤣 That area was claimed a long time ago 🤣 Before the Duma Fino docked their ship in 1999 to claim the island. Sorry when did the Fino became independent ⁉️
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