🔴 Take "LEICA PHOTOS" with a Panasonic | Leica SL vs Lumix S5

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Matt Osborne

Matt Osborne

2 жыл бұрын

Leica vs Panasonic! Lumix S5 or Leica SL Compared (Camera Review) + Lumix S5 Presets
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After owning both the Panasonic S5 Lumix & Leica SL camera for 12 months I review which camera is better for photos and video. Are Lumix S5 photos good? Is the Leica SL worth it? Do I need a Leica? From my tests the Panasonic Lumix S5 photos (shot in RAW) have similar details to Leica SL photos. Once a MrLeica preset is applied to both sets of images in Adobe Lightroom I can't tell a difference (if I use the same lens on both cameras). ie. Using Leica SL with Leica lens etc. The Leica is much more fun to use but if you want IBIS (maybe you shoot long lenses a lot) then the Lumix might suit you better. For my Leica SL Lightroom presets or Panasonic Lumix S5 Lightroom presets click the link above.
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@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын
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@LucyS565
@LucyS565 2 жыл бұрын
Great advice Matt! I've been curious about the Lumix S5. Well done!
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Lucy! Sorry getting behind on some of the comments.
@hoagyguitarmichael
@hoagyguitarmichael 21 күн бұрын
Watched this again. I thought I had something set wrong because the center point jumped around. Good to hear it is the camera. You have probably discovered this already but hitting that DISP.Reset box jumps it right back to the center. Still a pain that it moves, but easier than trying to recenter it manually on the screen or with the joystick.
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 21 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing the shortcut!
@FarEastSurvival
@FarEastSurvival 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I'm glad you are giving such useful advice all the time. After switching to Leica (M10R, SL2S and CL) I can't go back to other systems. I was influenced by in part many of your good videos. I just sold off the last of my Sony gear and I dont miss it at all. There is something very special about using a Leica camera and lenses and seeing the some magical images that I get out of it. My wife prefers the images shot out of the Leica cameras too. I hope you get a M10 or M11 soon so you can teach us how to get the most out of it.
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yes if I get to test the M11 this year I’d love to share my thoughts and samples.
@davidpuglia4813
@davidpuglia4813 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. I use the LUMIX S1R with my Leica lenses - both M and R mount. Leica used R mount lenses are a great bargain as they are much cheaper than used M mount lenses. I would like to own an SL2, but my primary cameras are M rangefinders, so can't justify the price. I think the S1R works well.
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks David, great setup and sorry I forgot to give a shoutout to the S1R in this video so I mention it in my latest video.
@borderlands6606
@borderlands6606 2 жыл бұрын
You can have the manual focus experience on the S5, with AF lenses. With lens set to manual, back button autofocus still works. As soon as you turn the focus ring the camera reverts to manual focus. Manual focus can be set to magnified view or normal, as the focus ring is turned.
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks great tip!
@jkroemer2685
@jkroemer2685 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video and explanation 😌. Would you have any recommendations or suggestions on setting up a d lux 109 and a zs100 for these type of quality pics?
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jordan, I used to own the Panasonic DLux version. Nice size but files were a bit electronic for me. I probably have my old presets I can supply via MrLeica.com blog preset page if you message me but I don't think they will look as good as in this video. (can't compare FF vs small sensor lenses and look in photos).
@jkroemer2685
@jkroemer2685 2 жыл бұрын
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom yes that is true and makes sense. I had emailed you and sent over a PayPal transaction for the bundle of 4 preset's 2 color and 2 blk and wht. But if they won't look as good than I'll cancel it.
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын
@@jkroemer2685 hey Jordan, I recognize your name. We spoke on IG. People use my presets even with their iPhone so hopefully you can get some enjoyment from them with your camera.
@jkroemer2685
@jkroemer2685 2 жыл бұрын
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom morning Matt! They worked great. I'll send some samples on IG ☺️
@philipsutton2316
@philipsutton2316 2 жыл бұрын
Matt - I love the way you make the effort to hire nice models and shoot this stuff properly. I'm so tired of KZfaqrs on here who get flash, expensive gear, then go and shoot a sunset down at the beach or some twitty-birds - total waste of time. I don't shoot any of that rubbish - I shoot portraits/events/street. If I want to know how a camera operates and what the final images look like, I need to see some skin tones - not grandmas roses. You would be surprised to see how many people do this - shows they are only 'gear-fiddlers' and not real photographers.! I know it takes money and effort to do what you do, but it is well worth the end results. That's why I subscribed. My 'poison' is a Fuji system and a Nikon system and I don't shoot/can't afford Leica, but I love watching your stuff - it is transferrable to whatever system one shoots.
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Philip! very kind. Without wanting to cost you money you'd probably enjoy my Patreon which is mostly models despite the word Leica being mentioned a lot in the info. It might surprise you that i've never paid for a model in my 10+ years. You can get more info on Patreon if interested. (Fuji and Nikon shooters are still welcome! ;) ..I used to use digital Nikon).
@cutstopnote8cutstopnote816
@cutstopnote8cutstopnote816 Жыл бұрын
Hi Matt ..I suspect answer to make zoom focus point in center is double tap jog which reset to zoom to the center of frame .. not sure if that you looked for..if not sorry ;).. BTW love your work and thanks
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing, I'll try it!
@TheoDahlemPickups
@TheoDahlemPickups 2 жыл бұрын
I always enjoy your videos. I'm curious if by any chance you would do a Leica pre set or Leica film sim. for Fujifilm cameras. I'm not using light room, but Capture1. Please let us know. THX bunches.
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын
Hi thanks. You can try using my Leica presets on Fuji RAW files in LR to see how they look (people buy to use with an iphone they tell me ha) but you need Lightroom sadly as wont work with C1.
@TheoDahlemPickups
@TheoDahlemPickups 2 жыл бұрын
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom THanks
@DidierMOULINPhotography
@DidierMOULINPhotography Жыл бұрын
Hi Matt, it's funny what you find as a benefit on the SL is THE thing that made sick away from this camera since the beginning : 4:04 with the SL in manual focus, you can't place the point of focus where you want and zoom in to adjust focus. it first focus in the center so you need to move the point after and you don't see your composition. With all the Lumix : you compose the shoot, you move the point where you want to focus and once you zoom it zooms on that point. You adjust focus and take the shot. you know it's well composed because you already set the right framing and composition.
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Жыл бұрын
Ha nice! I guess this is why 1 camera doesn't suit all of us :)
@olsisimoni
@olsisimoni Жыл бұрын
On the Lumix S1 the point cross go in the center if you push twice in the middle of cursor button. I don't know about S5. Amazing video, thank you!
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Жыл бұрын
Thank you and i'll check it!
@framedge
@framedge Жыл бұрын
Will your B&W presets work on Sony raw files? Lovely images by the way.
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Жыл бұрын
Hi Robert, yes absolutely.
@Deetroiter
@Deetroiter Жыл бұрын
Hi, Matt! I wanted to ask since the Sl2 is full frame, using a lense like the T-l mount summicron 23mm f2 would be a true 23mm? I know using it on my TL2 is closer to 35mm with the crop sensor. Also, what is the difference between the SL2 and SL2s? Thanks!…..also I can attest to the comment in your video about the jpegs coming out of the camera not really needing to do much at all to them. I absolutely love my Pentax k1ll and jpegs are great but always seem to need slight tweaking. The Leica TL2 most always never needs anything done at all
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Жыл бұрын
Hi! Yes 23=23mm on SL series but reduced MP as it’s an APSC lens. SL2 is 47MP vs 24 in SL/SL2S
@Deetroiter
@Deetroiter Жыл бұрын
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Thank you for the prompt reply! That's interesting that the MP would be reduced for the SL cameras with the APSC L mount Leica lens. What series Leica or Sigma lenses would I have to look for in order to take full advantage of the SL camera body?
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Жыл бұрын
@@Deetroiter L mount for SL. Sigma and Lumix are cheapest. I use mostly M lenses via adapter
@joemcb1234
@joemcb1234 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Matt, great video, very interesting and useful. Currently have GH4, GH5 and considering S5. I use Photoshop not LR. Are your Leica presets available for Photoshop?? Cheers Joe
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Joe, nice! S5 performs well. Same menus as GH5 I think (I had that before). Sorry presets are for LR. Apply to all images for fast editing. Photoshop is one image at a time. Many edits on my Flickr are LR edit + photoshop to finish it.
@joemcb1234
@joemcb1234 2 жыл бұрын
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom ah so does that mean I could bulk pre process all photos from a shoot in LR then edit in PS? Thanks to your video I'm just about to order the S5. Been holding back for far too long.
@joemcb1234
@joemcb1234 2 жыл бұрын
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom PS my main reason for wanting the S5 is low light recovery in photos & video. I love my GH5's but shadow fall apart if lifted too much. Do you recommend any particular M42 & EF to L mount adapter?
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын
@@joemcb1234 I like Novaflex, see mykit list on MrLeica.com
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын
@@joemcb1234 yes LR + preset is to batch edit 1000s of images in one go. PS is single image editing.
@nguyenvietnam1517
@nguyenvietnam1517 Жыл бұрын
Dear Matt, how about if the Summilux TL 35mmf1.4 use with Lumix S5 , I hope S5 has crop image function.
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Жыл бұрын
It will auto crop I think with TL lenses. I forget between SL and S5.
@ChrisWhittenMusic
@ChrisWhittenMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Good video. Hopefully getting an SL601 this week.
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Chris, congrats! I love mine
@ChrisWhittenMusic
@ChrisWhittenMusic 2 жыл бұрын
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom You should test Asahi Takumar lenses. I just test shot 28 & 35 M lenses with the same in SMC Takumar and they are very hard to tell apart. Except for the Takumars being under £100 each.
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisWhittenMusic thanks Chris yes I hear they’re great lenses.
@Skipsul
@Skipsul 2 жыл бұрын
How are the SL or SL2 at higher ISOs and lower light levels? I tend to shoot a fair amount in dim events with a decent amount of action.
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын
I think the SL2-S is the best of the 3 but don’t quote me on that. I’d need to Google it to compare side by side. In practice better than my M240 which only goes to ISO 1600 before I get banding.
@NineVoltDigitalCinema
@NineVoltDigitalCinema Жыл бұрын
Great comparison, wish I’d watched this last November. I thought I was being practical by getting the S5 over a used Leica SL2-s, and I regretted it almost immediately. Now that the S5 mark II is out, I may as well keep it, as resale value is dropping rapidly.
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Жыл бұрын
Thanks, sorry to hear. You made exactly the same mistake as me. I will likely keep the S5 too as a backup and for some video.
@Stone1108
@Stone1108 2 жыл бұрын
Matt. a very useful comparison, thank you for another great video. I’m lucky enough to be already invested in L Mount, it really has become a great system and just gets better. I’m saving for a price of Leica L Mount Glass for my Lumix S1R because iIunderstand they render so well, not sure which prime to go for first though. But watching your video I could be tempted into buying a used SL first and continue with my existing L Mount Lumix and Sigma glass 🤔. I reality I think that I just want to own a Leica!! I wonder where L2 is heading 🤔 mmm. Oh and you can use the screen to move the focal point with your thumb as you compose through the evf on the S5 or set it in the centre as you prefer as described by another persons comment below. Either way both are useful, just needs setting up in the menu. Keep up the great work Matt. 👏
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын
Many thanks Andrew! If you’ve never used a Leica body I think you’ll love the SL. So nice to operate with any lens.
@belgiboing
@belgiboing 2 жыл бұрын
Bang on observations and recommendations! I have the SL2-S and the S5. Totally agree. To fix your focus point issue on the S5 using manual lenses, its two quick clicks. First, hit the joystick in whatever direction to bring up the focus box with the 4 yellow arrows. Then press the "Disp" button at the lower right. It resets your focus point to the center.... with autofocus lenses its even quicker. Just press the center joystick and focus resets to center.... Must say that in terms of usability and compactness, the S5 is the winner. Leica should aspire to make user friendly cameras like the S5 as much as Panasonic has been learning how to make great lenses like Leica.
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks and thanks for the tip, i'll have to try that!
@Dirk_Taggesell
@Dirk_Taggesell 2 жыл бұрын
You can just press on the joystick to re-center the focus point.
@matthewduvall9941
@matthewduvall9941 2 жыл бұрын
No mention of the optimized SL sensor for rangefinder lenses? I don’t use my M mount lenses on my s1h due to the image quality loss compared to my SL.
@raksh9
@raksh9 2 жыл бұрын
How much difference in image quality do you find between the SL and S1H when using M lenses, and what lenses?
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Matthew, sorry I was trying to keep the video shorter so I just wrote on screen ‘similar details’. I shot 15mm, 21mm, 28mm + and no issues for me (even slightly less vignette vs SL on a few shots!
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын
If stopped down a little no issues for me.
@georgestiros4392
@georgestiros4392 2 жыл бұрын
hi Matt, I can get the Leica SL for $1700 body only and the Lumix S1R for $2000 with the 24 to 105 . I have always wanted a LEICA . Which one should I buy?
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын
Hi George, both have same great finder, S1R is like SL2 with more res. If you have modern PC and need high res to crop in or billboards get S1R, if have older PC and dont crop get SL. (SL will be a nicer camera to hold).
@paulferguson1921
@paulferguson1921 2 жыл бұрын
Great video Matt. If you like a bright viewfinder why not swap the s5 for the s1 with its 5.76M-dot electronic viewfinder?
@Filmmaker809
@Filmmaker809 2 жыл бұрын
i agree Paul. Though I would love an S5, but hate the EVF & Micro Hdmi!
@raksh9
@raksh9 2 жыл бұрын
Depending on where you buy, a S5 is less expensive than a S1, not to mention the S5 is a lot smaller and lighter.
@paulferguson1921
@paulferguson1921 2 жыл бұрын
@@raksh9 Sure. The comparison however was with the Leica SL. The weight of the S1 is marginally heavier than the SL, much cheaper and if you step up to the S1r higher resolution.
@raksh9
@raksh9 2 жыл бұрын
@@paulferguson1921 True. TBH I've been thinking about a used SL, but a used S1R provided more value for photography and features.
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Paul and great point on S1. I should have mentioned that as an option for people.
@irimiebogdan1847
@irimiebogdan1847 2 жыл бұрын
Always a pleasure to watch your videos. Well done as always but one comment. Lumix has iso 50 also. You need to enable something in I can't remember which menu.
@paulanderson24
@paulanderson24 2 жыл бұрын
Oh? I have an s5 and never knew this.
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын
Ah thanks! Interesting, I’ll Google it. Useful for video too!
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын
Nor me!
@irimiebogdan1847
@irimiebogdan1847 2 жыл бұрын
Found it. Cog ->Image Quality->Extended ISO. When I've read about it was supposed to be good for videos. Works for stils also
@spost26
@spost26 2 жыл бұрын
Does the SL come in a stealth version (without the red dot)? I don’t want any extra attention :)
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Stephen, SL2-S is in stealthy black writing. You might need black tape for the SL model (to hide the dot)
@cwl1354
@cwl1354 2 жыл бұрын
I was about to ask "what happened to your S5"..Love SL though heavy, and now saving to get the SL2-s (because of its Ibis),
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks CW, yes sorry it was well overdue!
@videosbybo2319
@videosbybo2319 2 жыл бұрын
If you push the focus joystick in, it will go to the center of the viewfinder.
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын
Ah thanks! I think I tried that before but i'm dumb as used to MF so will try again, thanks!
@michaelkhalsa
@michaelkhalsa Жыл бұрын
Base iso 50 is also very useful when smoothing water when cloudy and you do not have an ND filter with you.
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Жыл бұрын
Yes Michael, agree! Love ISO 50!
@RS-Amsterdam
@RS-Amsterdam 2 жыл бұрын
Shooting Leica - "Little bit of luxury" hehehehehe. Bit of an understatement IMO. Good comparison, solid arguments. Well done Matt ! Have you ever tried to turn photos to B/W using a B/W Gradient Map (need some thing to know to tune it, to get the best results but I can inform you of that if you want) the results are often astonishing
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks RS! I’ve not, I do try to edit as fast as possible as never enough time for even the basics in life (like tidying the house etc ha) but thanks for offer, noted.
@smartdoctorphysicist3095
@smartdoctorphysicist3095 2 жыл бұрын
Hi can you please tell me with this raw-preset is????
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын
Hi yes that may help. There are presets on MrLeica.com as linked under the video in the description.
@shahzadahmed-tq8tm
@shahzadahmed-tq8tm 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Matt, great content as always, appreciated. I have the lumix S1r and wanted to buy Voigtlander apo to get the most out of 47.3 mega pixels. Could you please say which Voigtlander apo has the most resolution and 3d pop, 35 or 50? I remember you stating, that shooting with the apo 35mm, it feels like shooting a digital media format. Is the resolution level same with 50 apo as 35mm apo. Thank you in advance!
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I think 35 apo is sharpest but I own the 50
@shahzadahmed-tq8tm
@shahzadahmed-tq8tm 2 жыл бұрын
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Thank You very Much, appreciated! I think I will also get 50 apo f2. it can give more prominent 3D pop because of the focal length compression. Thanks one more!
@TheGermanCompounder
@TheGermanCompounder Жыл бұрын
I have tried the SL and S5 and i enjoy the S1 most. Imo it has the best body for big hands and my fav kind of screen :) All the FF Lumix and Leica SL cameras are really nice with M and R lenses though.
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Жыл бұрын
Thanks FJ, the S5 finder isn't good enough for me. I like the option of the flip screen but I might sell it.
@TheGermanCompounder
@TheGermanCompounder Жыл бұрын
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom i can understand, thats why i opted for the S1 as well! Incredible Viewfinder :)
@zoltankaparthy9095
@zoltankaparthy9095 2 жыл бұрын
Bravo!
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Zoltan!
@MrJayclas
@MrJayclas 2 ай бұрын
Didn’t the Panasonic S1 exceed the Lieca EVF with its 5.78 million dot OLED?
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 ай бұрын
Yes some S1 like the S1R (not sure about all) have the same EVF res as the Leicas SL2/SL2S/SL3
@Mr.scoopoly
@Mr.scoopoly Жыл бұрын
usually on cameras when you press joystick your focus point back to centre
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Жыл бұрын
Thanks Paul, I think I tried this but I’ll have to try again, thanks!
@BRUNO-cj9wd
@BRUNO-cj9wd 9 ай бұрын
So how we get the Leica look is to buy your Preset? No
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 9 ай бұрын
If using a Lumix using Leica glass on it will help then if you want the "Matt Look" I use presets for all my images.
@weisserth
@weisserth 2 жыл бұрын
The S5 sells new for USD1500 at the moment in the US. Much cheaper than the price you quoted.
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I showed a screenshot of eBay COM in the video.
@justyjust
@justyjust 2 жыл бұрын
I have a Panasonic S1 which is pretty similar to your Leica SL, I use my contax lenses on it but use focus peaking which shows what's in focus by displaying little coloured dots on what's in focus.
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, focus peaking on any camera is only partially accurate. With fast lenses you need to 10x zoom to fine focus as FP is just a contrast detect system. I should have mentioned the S1 as it has a good finder too if I remember. (Better than S5)
@theowu4794
@theowu4794 Жыл бұрын
very helpful. just wanna buy a leica sl from s5
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Жыл бұрын
Thanks Theo, yes I use the SL 95% of the time and still own both
@theowu4794
@theowu4794 Жыл бұрын
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Sorry i just mean sl2 or sl2s hh. BTW u are still using sl?
@GeorgeKowalski135
@GeorgeKowalski135 2 жыл бұрын
The next video should be called : Would you choose a Leica SL2-S over a Panasonic S5? I sold a bunch of camera gear including a S5 and a Leica Cl to buy a Leica SL2-S and even though it was very expensive, I am enjoying the change. The S5 menu was forgetful. The Leica is built like a tank and shoots great photos with an excellent menu system. There is just something about the Leica that I never experienced with the S5.
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks George! I can answer for you as I've used the SL2-S (See that video). YES is it brings the benefits of the SL and a few benefits from the S5 together. I love how the SL series cameras feel. Yes Lumix lack the vavavoom of Leica (not branding, I mean enjoyment).
@framedge
@framedge Жыл бұрын
No presets for Capture One 22?
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Жыл бұрын
Hi Robert, sorry not as yet. I’ve never used C1, only LR
@framedge
@framedge Жыл бұрын
Matt, thanks for taking the tine to reply. Really appreciate that.
@petemcknight803
@petemcknight803 Жыл бұрын
Yesssssss!
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Жыл бұрын
Glad you found it!
@malfunction8165
@malfunction8165 2 жыл бұрын
Memo to self, focus on the eyes, focus on the eyes, focus on the eyes, yep, got it.
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын
Haha, not as easy as it sounds I realise :)
@AllCarsUnited
@AllCarsUnited 5 ай бұрын
Purchase a s5ii and use luts to get any look
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 5 ай бұрын
Yes you can get a similar look with the S5II camera. I still use my SL and not the S5.. it's the feel and VF I think
@jeromearnould9940
@jeromearnould9940 2 жыл бұрын
Great Video ... but you have to sell your SL ans swapp for the SL2-S witch is THE best one :-)
@janfrosty3392
@janfrosty3392 2 жыл бұрын
in my opinion SL2-S is much better, IBIS and low light lerformance
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jerome! When I have more Patreons maybe! Haha. I need to fund it :)
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jan, yes for IBIS shooters definitely the S
@williaminbody205
@williaminbody205 2 жыл бұрын
In my opinion no sensor has ever eclipsed the SL601 sensor when comparing “raw to raw” images. And if you’re down at its native 50 iso it’s pure gold….it’s jaw dropping. What you do on a piece of software to mimic that look is elusive.
@obscur_yoann
@obscur_yoann 2 жыл бұрын
I think the sensor of the Sigma fp offer another great "magic" images too, with so great colors (and Sigma profiles are a blast, especially the yellow foveon). I didn't compare with the SL, but my guess is it's in the same league, and I had plenty of different brands' camera, and only this fp and my ex-M9 blow me away so far. If one can deal with the limitations of it (I personally can), it's an amazing camera, and will be a nice complement to an SL in fact.
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks William, I do love the SL
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Yoann, yes I hear the colours are great!
@Fedorevsky
@Fedorevsky 2 жыл бұрын
@@obscur_yoann The sensor in the Sigma fp is the same sensor found in Panasonic S1, S1H & S5, Nikon z6 I & II and the Sony A7III & A7C. It's the Sony Exmor IMX410 sensor.
@obscur_yoann
@obscur_yoann 2 жыл бұрын
@@Fedorevsky So it's not only the sensor, but the combination of the sensor and whatever Sigma tech or tweaks, because the results are here, with amazing colors and very easy to work RAW files.
@bradl2636
@bradl2636 2 жыл бұрын
My eyesight is not so great and will probably deteriorate further... I have floaters... without glasses using camera and phone up close no problem. I have a large collection of Leica M and Nikon F vintage lenses. An M6. I like urban/street and model photography. Have never done much video... that might be something to try going forward. The latest M bodies seem limiting to me with respect to viewfinder. Suggestions?
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын
I wear glasses for driving and the SL is the best camera I’ve used of ease of focus with any lens (see my SL settings video)
@bradl2636
@bradl2636 2 жыл бұрын
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Between the SL and Lumix which one has given you most pleasing results with F glass? Does your choice change with M glass? I must add I seem to do a reasonable proportion of low light shooting.
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын
@@bradl2636 the SL is far nicer to use so I’d get that. Images should be slightly better too but to the most part very similar.
@bradl2636
@bradl2636 2 жыл бұрын
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Thank you for your advice
@sromrell
@sromrell 2 жыл бұрын
I thinking that no one really tests Leica lens’s say the way that Chris Frost test’s Sony mount. I would imagine testing SL lens’s and putting them up against Panasonic and Sigma would generate views especially if they were surpassing the Leica.
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, it’s partly limited to hear that I own but when I did the SL APO vs Voigtlander APO the M lens did well.
@baerv3753
@baerv3753 2 жыл бұрын
The SL EVF doesn’t have any adjustment other than diopter…it’s crap in bright sunlight.
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын
Do you wear glasses? Without glasses the EVF eye piece fits the eye socket so it doesn't matter how bright it is I can still see 100% clearly.
@baerv3753
@baerv3753 2 жыл бұрын
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom I just found it pretty poor compared to the SL2. Even the S5 was better for me. Lower res but at least I could crank up the brightness. Overall, I still think the S5 is a better camera than the SL.
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын
@@baerv3753 ah thanks, I’ve never tried too so have overlooked that feature.
@RobinParmar
@RobinParmar 11 ай бұрын
OK, I have to call you on this, as I am sure many before me already have. The camera you should be comparing, with 47 megapixel sensor, 5.7 mp EVF, top-screen etc, is the Lumix S1R. You very much under-rate the value of IBIS which is a godsend in my experience. The colours from Lumix are far more natural than the Leica examples you display, which look like they were shot on a saturated magenta-shifted Fuji film. This can be a nice look... but not a good starting point. The number one thing I've heard people say about Lumix is how nice the colours are. Maybe everyone that likes a system says the same stuff! But you can customise all of that on the Lumix S line, even saving your own profiles or loading your own LUTs in camera. The focus point has many more features and customisability on the Lumix cameras. I especially like the Lumix ability to use auto-focus with manual assist. You can enlarge the focal area to get exact focus as soon as you turn the focus ring. Even this feature can be customised many different ways, to suit how an individual prefers to use the camera. Not to mention the Leica cameras are just plain ugly, which is so disappointing after their sleek rangefinder heritage. (And their lenses, which continue to be handsome at least in the M-mount versions.) I am not bound to anyone brand or another, having used Pentax and Olympus mostly for the past two decades. I am happy you admit that this is a factor in your decision-making. But I can't help feel it is the only factor! In truth, as you come close to saying, you can shoot a model with any camera at all. It's the lighting and subject that matter far more. Unless you're shooting a decades-old rangefinder, I don't see the point of Leica at all, except to drain your bank account. They lost their way a long time ago. Personally I prefer Contax Zeiss lenses, especially as they come at a fraction of the price. And there are also amazing Pentax, Olympus, etc. lenses, each with their own magic.
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 11 ай бұрын
Thanks Robin, the Lumix S5 is poor for "fun to use to take photos" but the images are fine. The Leica is fun to use and the EVF is more like the S1R yes. I don't have that camera so couldn't compare. I just buy cameras that I enjoy using. I use the Lumix for video.
@JacobLCharles
@JacobLCharles Жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this video. Just take a baby step back from the lens, seems like you're too close for minimum focus distance.
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Жыл бұрын
Thanks Jacob! Yes still learning on the making videos bit, latest ones are slightly better!
@skebir2506
@skebir2506 2 жыл бұрын
Matt, could you make the same video with Leica SL2 vs Lumix S1R please?
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын
If I get both to test then yes. Both should be similar VF and output but Leica should win for menus and enjoyment to use (not because I like Leica.. I have 3 Lumix too)
@jlwilliams
@jlwilliams 2 жыл бұрын
2:00 If I upgrade my Patreon to the next level, will you please take the money and buy a dust brush? I can't believe you're holding that up to your EYE!
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын
Haha sorry and ok deal :D
@ductritran8637
@ductritran8637 2 жыл бұрын
Sold my Leica SL and bought Panasonic S1R . Never look back or regretted , this is the best decision I made . S1R beat SL in every aspect .
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын
Similar EVF so I can see how you could switch and not feel like you were missing out. The S5 has the lesser finder.
@JWysocki
@JWysocki 2 жыл бұрын
S1R has the best evf on the market.
@shahzadahmed-tq8tm
@shahzadahmed-tq8tm 2 жыл бұрын
The ability to shoot a very wide shot on the S1r is amazing. Most of the times, I don't even feel the need to edit my photos. Because S1r captures hilights&shadows so brilliantly, that strait out of camera it just looks Amazing!
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын
@@JWysocki same res as SL I think
@JWysocki
@JWysocki 2 жыл бұрын
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom S1R has 5760k dot, Leica SL has 4400k.
@sebastiang7183
@sebastiang7183 2 жыл бұрын
Let's be honest. You know you wouldn't be shooting those models without Leica. You would be sitting at home taking pictures of cats if your main camera was a Lumix.
@raksh9
@raksh9 2 жыл бұрын
Surely that's the other way around! 😉
@jlwilliams
@jlwilliams 2 жыл бұрын
He does say using a Leica makes him feel more confident, and I would guess confidence is what you need when you're planning trips to places you've never been before to photograph models you've never met and who don't speak your language. I agree that it's preposterous to feel more confident because of the name on the box you're holding in front of your face, but hey, if it works... the human brain is a silly thing sometimes, but it's the only kind of brain we've got!
@sebastiang7183
@sebastiang7183 2 жыл бұрын
@@jlwilliams My comment was intended to be tongue in cheek, but reading it again it sounds more mean than playful. Matt is a very talented portrait photographer and he uses Voigtlander and other brand lenses to produce exceptional work. He would produce quality work regardless of brand.
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын
Tough topic! I know a few Leica shooters that photo cats a lot :) In truth models don’t care if photo is good.
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын
For some I think yes (and if spent all money on Leica, say M11 you have to stay at home as can only afford bread and water for next 3 years :) !)
@edaracedream1403
@edaracedream1403 Жыл бұрын
camera isn't important, come make some art. Peter Lindbergh uses only a Nikon. He is a MASTERCLASS
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Жыл бұрын
Thanks Eda! Yes I agree, I use some Nikons too (for film). I like making gear videos as I like to compare equipment but I'm a creative too when it comes to the images. I used to paint before turning to photography so I love what I do.
@cameraprepper7938
@cameraprepper7938 2 жыл бұрын
No you do not need a Leica Camera, I use my Sony Cameras as "Leica" Cameras, both with Leica Lenses AND with other brands of Lenses !
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын
Nice, yes I think you can use any camera if you enjoy the look
@cameraprepper7938
@cameraprepper7938 2 жыл бұрын
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 😂 Well I can say that I do not enjoy the look of Leica SL ! But I do not care about looks of a Camera, neither if it is a "Gucci"-camera, I do care about quality and compactness, a Camera should be as a good tool for the photographer.
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын
@@cameraprepper7938 yes I soon forgot about the bigger size once I liked using the SL!
@cameraprepper7938
@cameraprepper7938 2 жыл бұрын
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom It was opposite for me, going from a big DSLR Canon to compact Sony A7RIV Camera, I just love the smaller size and weight of the Sony Cameras
@jacovanlith5082
@jacovanlith5082 2 жыл бұрын
You let the cat out of the bag. Now everybody knows IBIS gives no five stops profit to avoid unsharpness. Moving models, running trains, trembling leaves and playing children can not be frozen by IBIS. Never I have seen someboy copying a painting handheld or shooting without a tripod the interieur of Saint Paul's Cathedral. a
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 2 жыл бұрын
Haha thanks Jaco :)
@Fujefilmu
@Fujefilmu Жыл бұрын
no offense, but that s what you get when you use a video centered camera (that will always take good photos) for just photos. you ll miss out on the ... photographer's experience. understand that we don t live in the 80's no more. people buy cameras to film, since the market for STRICTLY video centered cameras is pretty dead or wildly inaccessible to your average Joe.
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Жыл бұрын
Thanks Cristian, yes good point. Leica focus on photos so I guess that's why they are so fun to use.
@Fujefilmu
@Fujefilmu Жыл бұрын
​@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom oh totally, and a fair comparisson to a Panasonic, since the S5 is a cheaper more modern and scaled down S1 (size), --is to compare the Leica to the less accessible S1R, specifically the R, for the high rez, so then, photography spinoff to a video beast that is the Panasonic - and the S1H is another video beast, i don t know exactly how much video to photo discrepancies you ll find, but generally, i do not expect the Leica to outdo these beasts massively. i m not a photographer, but i find Leicas to be very pretentious in their pricing. And if you were to compare, those would be fair comparissons >> now of course i m not asking you to do any of those, they are expensive equipment, but if you want diversity as a photographer (i do video and own an S5), and want something to actually challenge that Leica, then that's where you go. Comparing to a lightweight S5, you ll miss out on the other perks that those others have, like a top simple LED screen. so i really appreciated your review, hope i didn t come off as rude, but it s simply not in the same category of product. compared to a Leica, you d have S1R i assume, but if you put it next to the S1H, then that camera is much more of a camera. much more of a capable multi-tasker. the stabe on that is the best on the market. the absolute best. and it 's full frame. the codecs as well. and the viewfinder is higher res, plus the top screen AAAAAAAAAND it s a video-centered camera. now i'm not too familiar with the R (ok so lemme refresh this >> ) S5 modern scaled down lightweight, with a few added video features like live-crop in or live pan S1 Panasonic mid range, bulkier heavier body, that is somewhat outdone by the S5, at least for video users. the S1H however is another animal. they re both heavier and bulkier and... just bigger as bodies than the S5, which is fairly compact for what it offers, but not a light camera by any stretch of the imagination. the S1H is a freggin brick. they managed to make the S1H a tad bulkier than the S1, and is still not outdonee by the S5, since it does 6k inside. only thing modern cameras like the Sony A7Siii or FX3 *same camera, si that they now do 4k 120p, which is radical, but to my knowledge, those still don t do any 6k or 8k in-camera. and the S5 can do 5.9k as well in hdmi-out, but... these are the ravings of a videographer at this point. cheers bro. what you have is always the best. it's just real good to know what to use it for. you might have gold in your hands and not even know it.
@vc6218
@vc6218 9 ай бұрын
please clean your cameras.
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom 9 ай бұрын
Haha sorry yes they are always being used so my be dusty etc.
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