Taking ALL The Initiative In Vintage Cube Draft

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Luis Scott-Vargas

Luis Scott-Vargas

4 ай бұрын

I rolled a natural 20 on initiative this time, and my opponents struggled to keep up...
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@RainbowRandolf
@RainbowRandolf 4 ай бұрын
I cannot tell you how much peace these vids provide me during my underappreciated, overworked job. I have them playing in the background on headphones, and they are so damn fun.
@jovial111
@jovial111 4 ай бұрын
Me too!
@GsKillz818
@GsKillz818 4 ай бұрын
same...these are my go to.
@KevinRussell.
@KevinRussell. 4 ай бұрын
It’s not just the content that has been great for all of us. It is the consistency of the content.
@MasterworkLeathercraft
@MasterworkLeathercraft 4 ай бұрын
The BM Through the Breach to give you a minor heart attack was hilarious
@Homesweethome-n9n
@Homesweethome-n9n 4 ай бұрын
My favourite parts of lsv's videos are when he says "I can't see them getting out of this" and then he dies 🤣 the games in cube are so back and forth and swingy I'm convinced it's the best format in the history of magic.
@sylverfyre
@sylverfyre 4 ай бұрын
I love the positivity about your fellow drafters kicking off the video - "It's because it's always a good squad"
@LSVargas
@LSVargas 4 ай бұрын
It always is!
@phelandiller4066
@phelandiller4066 4 ай бұрын
Those cataCOOOOOMZ really got you lol
@andrejudd8589
@andrejudd8589 4 ай бұрын
"Not a Noise Marine deck" made me sad. Good 4s to potentially cascade into, okay red fixing for a late game card...seemed okay to take it there. Mostly just want to see you play it once. 😢
@ReiHost
@ReiHost 4 ай бұрын
Traveling through Vietnam on business, having breakfast... And I am putting the world on pause for this video. I've waited for the all-initiative deck for a while now!
@ryandunn8014
@ryandunn8014 4 ай бұрын
52:39, help me to understand, why are we not just activating arwen to gain life? to me, it seems like the only way to lose is by dying this turn and gaining 6 life prevents that possibility. Additionally, it seems unlikely that Quinn has instant speed removal based on the spellbinder. Thanks!
@brianh5844
@brianh5844 4 ай бұрын
I'm embarrassed that I'm so emotionally invested in these games that I was actually furious about that play (also really didn't like binning containment priest against the reanimator deck). At the same time, it felt appropriate to lose there and say "he doesn't just keep getting away with it!" To be honest, it feels like LSV has been playing sorta loosey goosey in these team cube draft videos for a little while now. I mean, still much better than I would be able to, no doubt, but the quantity of throws is high for a player that's one of the GOATs, and it seems like it's maybe increasing? There could be all sorts of reasons for it, or maybe I'm just getting better and spotting misplays more frequently. I don't know if it's the lack of stakes, stress, playing strictly against the best cubers in the world, or what, but it sort of feels almost like a weird sports psychology thing where he makes odd decisions at key points in the game. It's still very entertaining content. But the throws are beginning to become frustrating for me. Maybe it's a sign that I need a break from this as a part of my daily routine. Not that he needs it, but I do wish LSV all the best.
@williamwadbrant645
@williamwadbrant645 4 ай бұрын
While it's 10/10 to get an LSV cube video daily, this one makes me so happy to have cut all initiative cards from my own list. It's great you can make your own cube experience into what you like!
@andrewwatts6974
@andrewwatts6974 4 ай бұрын
Something funny about sneak and show as the last 2 cards in a pack 😂
@Samuel-pm7gq
@Samuel-pm7gq 4 ай бұрын
Thank you Luis. Learning how to lose less from you. Also, storybook brawl was very very fun. Sad every time I remember, i can't play it anymore.
@11km_s
@11km_s 4 ай бұрын
Your videos are the always one of my highlights of the day. Pls never stop
@hwago123
@hwago123 4 ай бұрын
Green/white splashing Domain is an interesting archetype….
@ColeBishop23
@ColeBishop23 4 ай бұрын
Love all your content, thanks for the sweet videos! Have you considered messing with the pack structure for the 6 player drafts? My playgroup does four packs of 15 binning the last three from each pack to approximate the number of total cards from an 8 player draft.
@bumpasaurus487
@bumpasaurus487 4 ай бұрын
I like that idea, very interesting!
@Cephalopocalypse
@Cephalopocalypse 4 ай бұрын
I'd have laid money we'd never hear "this isn't really a Ponder deck" on this channel :P
@skylerkade5895
@skylerkade5895 4 ай бұрын
Maybe I’ll learn what initiative does watching this
@user-gr2vf6dk4b
@user-gr2vf6dk4b 4 ай бұрын
Hi, LSV!! Thanks for all the content!
@jedrzejkraszpulski442
@jedrzejkraszpulski442 Ай бұрын
Some rarely seen misplays in that second match. Sweating it to the very end.
@matke743
@matke743 4 ай бұрын
It never happens that I disagree with Loui-s mana base but I am pretty sure one more plains over island would be right :)
@tommasomagnoli2830
@tommasomagnoli2830 4 ай бұрын
I'm not high on speed, not high on LSD, I am high on LSV.
@seanmurphy3430
@seanmurphy3430 4 ай бұрын
For the record, MTGO does do Necromancy correctly. The current oracle text on Necromancy is that if you cast Necromancy at any time you couldn't cast a sorcery, including but not limited to its own effect, it goes away at end of turn.
@dennisbradford7216
@dennisbradford7216 4 ай бұрын
There's a Gatherer ruling on Necromancy that reads: "The sacrifice occurs only if you cast it using its own ability. If you cast it using some other effect (for example, if another effect allowed you to cast it as though it had flash), then it won't be sacrificed. "
@dementievatz
@dementievatz 4 ай бұрын
@@dennisbradford7216That ruling is in direct conflict with the current Oracle text. I’m curious whether they changed the Oracle text for the recent reprinting, or whether the ruling is intended to be for the current text.
@Anusien
@Anusien 4 ай бұрын
They’ve done a cleanup, but Gatherer rulings can be out of date. That said, my best guess is that the Gatherer ruling is correct. The sacrifice is part of the same ability as the flash. And this interpretation mirrors the original printing better.
@jonathanellwood2093
@jonathanellwood2093 4 ай бұрын
​@@dennisbradford7216 Here's how I think it works: Etali says "When Etali, Primal Conqueror enters the battlefield, each player exiles cards from the top of their library until they exile a nonland card. You may cast any number of spells from among the nonland cards exiled this way without paying their mana costs." and Necromancy says "If you cast it any time a sorcery couldn't have been cast, the controller of the permanent it becomes sacrifices it at the beginning of the next cleanup step.". Now there is a ruling that says that timing restrictions based on a card's type is ignored, which means that you can cast the card as a part of the resolution (which is the only legal time you can cast off of Etali anyways). Now here's where things get weird: Etali allows you to cast a spell, ignoring timing restrictions as a part of it's effect, however, it does not allow you to cast a sorcery at instant speed, it simply allows you to cast the card (which may be a sorcery). Because of that, at the end of the turn, MTGO checks and sees "Necromancy was cast while the player could not cast a sorcery, therefore I must sacrifice it Now if I was a judge in this situation, I think you could rule it either way, primarily being whether you see Etali ignoring the timing restriction on a card superceding necromancy allowing itself to be cast at instant speed. I would probably rule it as you sacrifice, but I'm no judge, I'm just some random woman on the internet
@santiagoacosta6614
@santiagoacosta6614 4 ай бұрын
@@dementievatzIt's not in conflict. According to the comprehensive rules, section 607.2h: "If an object has both a static ability and one or more triggered abilities printed on it in the same paragraph, each of those triggered abilities is linked to the static ability. Each triggered ability refers only to actions taken as a result of the static ability. " The first part of necromancy's first paragraph reads "You may cast Necromancy as though it had flash.", a static ability, the second part "If you cast it any time a sorcery couldn't have been cast, the controller of the permanent it becomes sacrifices it >at the beginning of the next cleanup step
@totalegal27
@totalegal27 4 ай бұрын
55:00 etali had a finality counter you missed that
@andymion
@andymion 4 ай бұрын
Just gonna point out that around 49:24 when the Necromancy sacrifice is on the stack it reads "Sacrifice Quinniac" so, sorry Quinniac but if modo says so...
@JackD1615
@JackD1615 4 ай бұрын
Reminder to stretch today 😊
@injara
@injara 4 ай бұрын
Have to take the Initiative to like and comment on this video!
@fabulous_Fabius
@fabulous_Fabius 4 ай бұрын
I always wondered and this is the video to ask the question @lsv: Eventhough you dislike "Initiative" it is in the cube, but you did not include White Plume Adventurer. Why? Power level reasons seem odd when "power" is around, so I'm really baffled.
@andrewwatts6974
@andrewwatts6974 4 ай бұрын
M1g2 I thought there was consideration to getting halfling over birds before even seeing how punished you got by Gut. Seemed like it was going to buy a little tempo regardless and you had the initiative guys for the mana
@andrewwatts6974
@andrewwatts6974 4 ай бұрын
Although I suppose that only gains you one life in the end 😅
@makidiaz3894
@makidiaz3894 4 ай бұрын
This was a special one ❤
@Mythicaldrip
@Mythicaldrip 4 ай бұрын
oh shart, where has sandydog been? chat needs a wellness check!
@bumpasaurus487
@bumpasaurus487 4 ай бұрын
We haven’t even seen a comet activation since he was around borosing it up!!😂🤣
@LSVargas
@LSVargas 4 ай бұрын
I’ve been doing a lot of challenges which he generally doesn’t participate in, he’s all good
@MatthewForsytheHi
@MatthewForsytheHi 4 ай бұрын
Hol up, didn't LSV have Lutri in his top 25 P1P1 cube cards and Undermountain wasn't on the list. No hate no hate, just kinda amusing
@shawnkayian8241
@shawnkayian8241 4 ай бұрын
nice1 LSV!
@chazdiaz
@chazdiaz 4 ай бұрын
LSV Da Goat 🐐
@12345678938594
@12345678938594 4 ай бұрын
crazy taking thalia over ancient tomb
@bumpasaurus487
@bumpasaurus487 4 ай бұрын
Fully agree, especially after taking two 4 mana initiative cards so highly. Also in an Agro proactive deck, it can be as good as a mox.
@Kendal411
@Kendal411 4 ай бұрын
Feels like old LSV would have taken the Windswept Heath. Seemed like a certified "I want to be able to cast my cards" situation. Also feels like Colonade has fallen down LSVs rankings recently.
@Eszik3
@Eszik3 4 ай бұрын
I dunno, he grabbed a lot of lands in pack 1 and Caretaker was a perfect fit for his deck
@CareyBanyas
@CareyBanyas 4 ай бұрын
Match two game two : couldn't your opponent have thrown etali, both the tokens and the mox at you for lethal prior to combat damage?
@michaelmahn4373
@michaelmahn4373 4 ай бұрын
You can use boast abilities only once per turn.
@apd5084
@apd5084 4 ай бұрын
love your videos... the way you pronounce catacombs is extremely strange
@robertfuson2253
@robertfuson2253 4 ай бұрын
I think I'm going to start posting wildly misleading comments about the drafts every day for chaos
@andrewwatts6974
@andrewwatts6974 4 ай бұрын
😂
@Joeks0303
@Joeks0303 4 ай бұрын
This actually rocks, one of the really sad things is scrolling down to comments and seeing spoilers for matches or for the deck, and having crazy misleading stuff helps keep it unknown
@robertfuson2253
@robertfuson2253 4 ай бұрын
^this was my inspiration
@cz19856
@cz19856 4 ай бұрын
@@Joeks0303 don't read the comments before the video, duh
@nekrataali
@nekrataali 4 ай бұрын
Remember Cube is different than regular drafting. In normal draft, you go BEARD/BREAD (bombs > removal > evasion > aggro > duds) for pick order. However, in Cube, you want to go in reverse a.k.a. DREAD. This is because power cards enable strategies that otherwise don't work. Cards like One with Nothing are more powerful in Cube, for example.
@robertfuson2253
@robertfuson2253 4 ай бұрын
CanNOT believe we won that game because mack killed himself on accident with fastbond
@calypso4213
@calypso4213 4 ай бұрын
Top 50 list in shambles after this p1p1
@hwago123
@hwago123 4 ай бұрын
The Thalia over Ancient tomb pick seems loose😊
@cesarramon4636
@cesarramon4636 4 ай бұрын
.
@clintUofR08
@clintUofR08 4 ай бұрын
He keeps mispronouncing Cheonland
@mpp8042
@mpp8042 4 ай бұрын
Is it possible LSV over-values the initiative cards? He acts like they're always first pick slams, but the mechanic frequently ends up giving advantage to his opponents. Cube is unpredictable, it's almost never a safe bet that you can keep the initiative un-protested...
@LSVargas
@LSVargas 4 ай бұрын
It isn’t possible, I can verify that
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