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How DID he get his mark, what does his mark mean?

@@kieranpeak1404 it's a fiery joker face

@@LiamLightwolf oooooo, du

+Steph N I agree with everything you said, but let's face it. this is still another example of the show not portraying another male character in a positive light, or being developed well, which is what I think Firebrand was referring to.

+Steph N I just hat the kind of 'joke' they where giving "No worries! I can do this." "*can't do it* like, it's with all the reasons wrong they did it like that that scene is so short the kids won't notice the reasons like the time and broken leg I don't blame Braeburn for this scene

+Steph N I'll give you that he was injured, and that does limit his abilities to a degree. At the same time, though, he took no precautions to make sure the CMCs stayed put if he DID fall asleep. If a parent falls asleep after a grueling day, but forgets to put the child locks on the bleach cabinet first, and the child breaks in and gets sick, saying "but I was tired" isn't going to fly as an excuse with anyone. Braeburn was hurt, but he was not immobilized, and he was lucid every time we saw him in the episode. There was nothing preventing him from locking the windows, or maybe calling in an extra set of eyes in case he passed out. So, yes, Braeburn IS bad at watching children, and he's just lucky the dangerous outlaw they encountered wasn't actually a bad guy.

Omni Viewer That may be true if it was a 2 year old, but parents or babysitters don't normally go into kids room to lock window, because kids can unlock window. He was sitting at the front door, and the CMC climbed out the window. The CMC act like they would be around the age where if they decide to run away, they would. Also, as seen in 'Some pony to watch over me' Applebloom, runs away while Applejack is in the house. I give Braeburn credit because this is not the only time these 3, mostly Applebloom, have ran away while adults are in the same room or same house. 'Bridal Gossip' anyone.

+Steph N Yeah but when you have to come up with some convoluted explanation to explain something the show didn't bother even trying to explain, the show still holds some blame. A head canon is still just a head canon.

+MissFinefeather I've said it before and I'll continue to say it, the show has jumped through hoops to show that cutie marks are not gained for discovering your special talent (as much as they want to tell us that's what it is) but rather for discovering what you want to do with your life. Trobuleshoes decided he wanted to devote his life to the rodeo, an admirable choice, thus he got a horseshoe for a cutie mark, a symbol I believe is representative of the rodeo. His special talent (if you can call it that) is being a klutz, hence the 'bad luck' positioning, as while the mark might be revealed when you decide what you want to do with your life so rarely does your special talent not play a role in it's design. In a way you could interpret Troubleshoe's cutie mark as "rodeo klutz" or "rodeo clown." So, no, he didn't get his mark when he realized what he was meant to do, since he was trying out for a position vastly different than his cutie mark suggests he should be doing.

+Dethneko Agreed, i mean take the mane 6 geting thier marks when for example fluttershy was able to calm them and was like "eureka" oh and cheerilee lets not forget her. her cutie mark is abstract but she KNEW what her talent was and what she as going to do with it.

I've been saying this forever. It's so nice to see someone else who actually listened to the episode.

Exactly what I was going to say XD

+Jay Smith ^This^ Troubleshoes' revelation was that he was meant to be in the rodeo, that's what cuased his cutie mark to appear.he just didn't realize what part he was suited to playing in said rodeo.

+7Seraphem7 That doesn't work. Rarity always knew she was going to work with clothes and be Clothes Maker. Yet she didn't get her cutie mark, and her's isn't even related to clothing at all but to Gems. This episode is a bad episode. A horrible episode. It has a moral it wants to teach, but couldn't find a way to logically make it work, so broke their own Lore to make it work. Think on that. We have never, NEVER seen, heard, or had mention of a pony getting their cutie mark and not knowing what it means. Because everypony always got their cutie mark doing something that used their special talents. Even Bloom and Gloom, Luna states that a Cutie Mark is basically Who You Are. Trouble Shoes however, wasn't do anything related to being a Rodeo clown, already knew he wanted to be in the Rodeo, and already knew he was a kluts from failing everything else he tried. Why would he suddenly get his cutie mark right then and there. Taking in the Bloom and Gloom lession, It would mean Trouble Shoes wouldn't know who he was, at which point how did he get a Cutie Mark?! By that Logic, AB should have gotten a cutie mark like 3 times now. Potion making with Twilight, making a Potion with the Hearts Desire from Zecora, and patching up the Club House. Same with Scoots and Sweetie, riding the scooter and singing. I have talked with many people, and thought about it in many ways, and I can not see how Trouble Shoes would fit into the MLP Lore brought up before that Episode. And while Lauren did say they don't hammer Logic too much into the show, that doesn't mean they can break the lore they already came up with. This so far I think is the second time they did that. The first being bringing Maud into existance.

I would actually take it a step further and suggest having the confidence to go after your dreams is what earns you your cutie mark. Troubleshoes may have been doing well enough during auditions that he gained enough confidence to definitively say to himself that he was meant to be a rodeo pony. In comparison, Rarity earned her cutie mark after seeing everyone's reactions to her costumes, not when she discovered the gems and not when she finished the costumes. The audiences' reactions gave her the confidence boost she needed to pursue her destiny with no doubts in her mind.

DragonTrainer201 And how does that apply to Twilight, who was so afraid and lost control in a magical Flare? Or Pinkie Pie who didn't have Confidence problem, and same with Fluttershy and Rainbow. Fluttershy gained hers from finding she can talk with Animals. And Rainbow was already cocky as a kid, and winning races, doing a Rainbow doesn't change that, and probably didn't even know what she was doing at the time, only after. Also what about Twist too? And Cheerilee said she just woke up one morning to find it there.

The rest of the replies got it down: the writers broke the MLP lore just to force a lesson. This episode is best forgotten.

Exactly. I dont understand why so many people didnt interpret the reason that way. Besides, Sweetie Belle looked adorable doing magic so I wouldnt even have cared if it didnt make sense, but it does.

Alex Atkin Implying Sweetie Belle isn't ALWAYS adorable ;P

+FritzyBeat -I just wanted to say that- not many people look at it like that heh

+FritzyBeat Often when I forget things it's because they aren't lying where they should be, thus I don't see them (despite not actively looking for them) and assume I already have them on me, or already loaded them into the car, or completely forgot about the item and don't realize I don't have it until I need it.

+FritzyBeat Agreed! Another point is that none of the CMC could reach it otherwise and it clearly took SweetieBell time to levitate the key to her - time that would have shorted their window to break Troubleshoes had they woken up the Sheriff first. They had plenty, but they didn't know that at the time.

+Redcord CHN Can't say I can't' argue with that.

+Redcord CHN () But, if the keys _had_ been there, The sheriff may have noticed them, thereby taking them with him. Sometimes, some things you only think of if you see them, so the counter argument still works.

+Redcord CHN Honestly after +Silver Quill did his Character Vs. Power video I just put Troubleshoes away from my mind, he is the symbol of this semi-good episode so honestly i was just here because of Firebrand's limited comedy. my advice Redcord. Don't review the episode, eventually all the analysts will run out of points for things to say

***** Well Made in Manehatten is up to debate. I personally liked it a lot. After all it's the best pairing of Rarity and Applejack to date.

***** Look I understand that everyone has varying degrees of how they enjoy an episode and I respect yours and everything, but the reason I like it a lot is because I enjoyed it a lot. Honestly the episode isn't groundbreaking or anything like what we've seen previously, but I loved the episode because of how Rarity and Applejack played off each other's character. The last few times this has been done... we got Look Before you Sleep and Trade Ya.

You mean the fact that the CMC *Quickly shuts mouth* Right, Josh doesn't like spoilers. Just watch the episode Josh!!!!!

I don't mean to be inconsiderate, but at the rate he's going, the season would have already ended by the time he reviews today's episode. (sigh) I cried so much. I mean about today's episode, not the fact that his reviews are taking a long time.

FireWolfGoddess Julienne Dy Just because the review isn't up doesn't mean he hasn't watched it. For all we know he's watching it right now!! But omg my god wasn't it awesome when ******** did **** and ******,*****,***** all***** and especially at the end when they all sing about ********** and their *********. Also if josh does see this... It's a musical. I know he doesn't like spoilers, but I feel like this would have helped my experience with the episode if I knew this first. Still great episode, great songs and HOLY COW!!!

+“WRPBullet” Jon Marlow I want to see Josh's reaction so bad!

+caglayantilsim IO want to see EVERY ONE'S reaction so bad!

+Skye Silverwing Troubleshoes is a bit different - he's like Twilight's magic cutie mark, it's very broad. Troubleshoes special talent is to be in the rodeo, his klutziness makes him a rodeo clown - his special talent is simply to perform in one. Just like how Twilight's is simply being talented in magic and Trixie's seems to be the same, but look how they handle it differently.Troubleshoes issues is that he misinterpreted his mark as bad luck instead of finding his place.

I may have to disagree. Pinkie, Rainbow and Fluttershy got their marks through performing their special talent without being show to even realize they had gotten their marks at the time in question, so potentially the same with Twilight that she could have gotten her cutie mark when she discovered just how powerful her magic could be, except she did not. Twilight didn't get her mark until Celestia took her on as her protege. Contrary to the show constantly telling us cutie marks appear when you discover your special talent it goes on to show that the marks really don't appear until you decide what you want to do with your life, and Twilight couldn't realize she wanted to be Celestia's protege/successor until she was made aware Celestia would even take her on to begin with. I still side with Sweetie Belle's special talent being singing and Scootaloo's special talent being daredevilry, but they won't get their marks for these talents until they decide this is what they want to devote their lives to. Apple Bloom's talent might still be in homemaking/general maintenance, but to be honest that feels like general knowledge for growing up on a farm. Being the one with main character status in the CMC it's possible her special talent was avoided, that or they changed their mind later, because later episodes point to potion brewing and alternative magic as her special talent. Sweetie Belle and Scootaloo have since stuck with singing and daredevilry respectively as their most likely special talents.

Did anyone else point out that this was the CMC displaying their talents before they got their marks?

To be fair, not everyone picked up on this when it was first established… But it is pretty obvious to those paying attention…

Kinda an oversight by the Sherrif