Good to know that they’re tryna get the instructor fired, I would be pissed af if that happened to me too but I hope you pass on your next MSF course.

Wya in Texas you take the msf course you just go to the DMV and get your endorsement.

All I had to do was the MSF and computer test at the DMV after luckily. Don't sweat it. You'll get it then next go.

Wow. That stinks. In my state we get a skills waiver card so we don’t have to take the dmv test. Just the written test. Sorry dude. I hope you can get it worked out.

In my state you just take the msf course at harley davidson and do the written there also. Turn in the endorsement card they give you to the dmv and then they will give you a new license

im watching me and husband got groms yesterday we sold his jigster if that how u spell it 😅and yea gt two groms when i get good il go ti the class again i passed out at my class from the stress i didnt eat the morning n fell during the uturn i packed up n went home. i subscribed

@@makingmoves6741 Appreciate the sub! I just took the test for the 3rd time today and thank the heavens I passed. You got this!

Can be confusing at first but the coach usually does a run through on a bike so you understand fully.

I agree completely with you about the EU and US differences. While I am glad I don't have to wait to get a bigger bike, it definitely would save lives by having people actually learn on a bike that they can control better. Although making people start on like a 125 is crazy, maybe like 300 or 400cc.

@@lemon15960 You don't really have to start on 125cc, but it's an age thing. 16-year olds have a limit of 125, 18-year olds have a limit on 35 kw (about 400-500 cc), but some bikes like mt07 could come with a power-limited version. No limitations comes in when you turn 24 or you have had A2 license (18-year olds) for at least 2 years. The license process is somewhat similar for all classes, but to upgrade to a higher class you need a "short" extension-course + what your previous course didn't include. 11 hours total for A1(125) to A2 and 7 hours for A2 to A(no limit), but no need for another practical test. As a 32-year old man i have just started on the course for an A-license and can have an 1300cc as my first bike, but i wont. Safety also comes at a price. Obligatory lessons is about 2500$ USD(Norway), and that is if i am the perfect student and basically ace everything.

Nah we don’t need nanny state regs here for that.

Leading cause of motorcycle fatalities are head ons and usually at intersections from left turning cagers not paying attention. Intersections are more dangerous than hauling ass on a normal traffic laden freeway. Wide turns are a very common motorcycle accident BUT you can have too much entry speed on ANY bike. Not the fast ones. Starting on a big bike didn’t mean you’ll wreck. It DOES mean you need to be very respectful of the machine you’re sitting on. I started on a 2023 MT-09 and had that thing fully modded and tuned within a four months. Thing was a blast and went to my current bike I have now a little more than year later. Both bikes are dangerous but I could get into the same trouble on a Duke 250.

It was a lot of fun! Definitely glad I took the class

Preciate it it’s on the 28th I should do just fine I’m decently confident

im afraid im gonna hold everyone up or get kicked out because i don't even know how to shift yet

Good luck dude the course is very straightforward they teach you everything you need to know. The test is just what they teach

Im going through the Harley Davidson course not msf although I did have to take the online of msf course 3 hours of just videos and multiple choice test.. the hands on I start in August. The lady at Harley Davidson that’s in charge of the riding training program told me once I complete the course n I pass the course (3 days 20 hour course) that it exempts the writing knowledge test and the driving course after I finish the course n paperwork to show the bmv that I took the 20 hour course do they automatically put the endorsement on my license without the driving test and written? Any help would be appreciated thanks. Thanks for sharing this video at least now I kinda know what to expect.

@@mercurysimple3850 so the Harley course is the Msf course they are just the ones conducting it. It waivers the dmv tests but they will give you their own test usually on the 3rd day (for me it was a week later) the test thru Msf isn’t quite as hard as the dmv test especially if the person running the test isn’t a diqhead.

@@lemon15960 that makes sense thank you I really appreciate it. New follower. And btw I bought my motorcycle couple weeks ago .. and I just picked it up in Indianapolis. Triumph bobber 2020. I know it's putting the cart before the horse but what the heck . At least I'll have it to ride after I pass. And good luck on your journey. New sub!!

@@mercurysimple3850 I also bought a bike before I passed lmao I bought mine in November and got my license just now

Reading some of the comments, I think this is not a real MSF course but rather a Harley Davidson's once, hence why OP had to do the DMV test instead of showing a real MSF card to get the endorsement automatically, this would also explain the newer bikes. I also had like a 20 yo dual purpose bike with the worst shifter 😂.

Thank you man means a lot. Good luck in your course it was a lot of fun for me!

How’d you do?! 😊 I took the Riding Academy myself last year and passed. But this year I’ll finally be getting my first Harley

@@jamescampbell1743 It was great! I only got one point marked off on the eval because literally the only time i stalled the bike all weekend was in the sharp right turn before the u-turn and i had to put my foot down. I had a blast. It was a small class(only six) probably because it was a holiday weekend. Thanks for asking.

Yea during the slow stuff I would definitely pull my clutch in a let off the throttle then would lose all my speed and have to use the throttle which is why it was jerky. But with the front brake they said they didn't want us to have our hands on it while turning, they took off points for doing it.

at first yea! But after a bit I got used to it

It was!

You got this!

Yea, I was so nervous I had to watch so many before me fail that really added to the stress.

yea we do I live in Illinois they give you a waiver which lets you take the test and get discount on insurance

the test is the last part of any MSF course

@@ChadCarney-hu3duhe's talking about the dmv

Class A was also easy. At least the driving portion. They tried to fuck me on the precheck, that shit was long af going through the whole truck and trailer.

Hey @jailsondias4102, just thought I'd share my experience with you since I was in the same boat not too long ago. If you don't have any riding experience at all, the process can be lengthy, but also depends on how determined you are to get out there and ride. I used to ride dirt bikes as a kid, so my understanding of the motorcycle started from a young age. However, street riding is a whole different game, and it's one that I'm still learning even after my MSF course. If you're planning on signing up, once do sign up the classroom part and riding portion come pretty quickly depending on the scheduled class you select. For example, I signed up for mine the first week of May of this year, I'd say around the 7th, and my class started the 9th and ended on the 12th. It's a fairly quick class but you learn a TON! If you're talking about obtaining your license, if you pass your MSF course and pass the written exam at the DMV, then you'll have your license in a matter of weeks, less than a month. Depending on your state of course. My best recommendation is start reading the MSF basic ridercourse handbook. Or even the handbook for obtaining your license that they offer on the DMV website. Then take your written exam at the DMV to obtain your riding permit. The only reason I say go this route, is so once you pass your MSF course, you take your certificate of completion and boom, you're a licensed rider. The work starts there, and you'll continue to learn the more you ride. Good luck on your journey if you decide to take that step, and safe riding!

Typically the Msf courses are known to be backed up, but all you do is setup a date with any Msf course near you. The Harley Davidson courses are a lot more expensive but that’s all that is near me. Then it’s a 3 day class and if you pass you go get ur license

@@lemon15960 interesting my Harley msf course was 120$ cheaper then everywhere else but it was also super close to when the class was gonna happen and it still wasnt full so i think they droped the price to get people to sign up or something...

He was really strict about the little things during the riding but overall he was nice

I was a little nervous for the same reason as I am only 18 years old. Try not to even think about it in my class there were a few in their young 20's and only a couple older people. Everyone was extremely nice.

@@lemon15960 Thank you, its good to know that there are people like me taking the course. Everyone in my town who rides motorcycles is like in their 50s lmao. Good luck on your retake man

We did a graded test at the end from the Harley dealership and I passed. Then they said that we would have to come back to take the dmv test. I’m not sure why, I honestly don’t even think I have to do it.

🤞

Honestly the best way to fix that is to practice, I had never even ridden a bike before the course and I don’t stall at all after taking it. They do a pretty good job teaching you.

A guy who’s 5’5 can flat foot the bike easily.

I’m 6’8 and that bike was too small and uncomfortable for me. Failed my MSF class because I did not fit the bike at all so I did terrible in the class but wasn’t for lack of effort. The HD dealer I did my class at had no accommodation bike for me. Hopefully I can find a class that allows me to use my Road Glide so I can pass the class hopefully and actually be able to ride my bike.

@@Asphalt_Cowboy08 road glide, kings and streets are like 900 pounds but they’re big enough for a tall person to flatfoot maneuver around.

This is in Illinois. It’s at Conrad’s Harley Davidson near Joliet. There are tons in Illinois.

We both failed, but that’s alright because we just gotta take it again and pass.

At a Harley dealer it is anywhere from $200-$350 but there are other places you can take it too. If you look up Msf courses near me on google and look you can probably find a college that offers it for free or for cheap

@@lemon15960 they provide the motorcycles and you have to just get riding gear? you have to have a helmet and what else?

@@lemon15960 damn free?! they give those motorcycle lessons for free?!

Just make sure you know exactly what to do for the test cuz they don’t explain very well. Ask questions before you go.

@@lemon15960 oh i will im half deaf as it is so im gonna annoy them real quick

@@angelusmortis3256 someone else commented asking if they would be able to hear the coaches cuz they are hard of hearing and I recommended them to wear glasses so that you can have your visor up when on the bikes. Really recommend this!

Yea I agree, also he waited until I was super close to tell me which T to go to or I wouldn’t have had to swerve into the T like that.

There were a few other times they were like that too but I cut them out 😂

@@lemon15960 at that point he was referring to your aggressive acceleration. Your confusion on where to go would logically have made you go slower, not faster.. so that logic simply does not compute. I agree that it was unnecessarily passive aggressive of the instructor, but in the end he was right. Don't let frustrations being in the way of listening. If you refuse good advice because it is said in a bad way, then you refuse your own safety as you then just ignore it like a toddler and apply your own bad behavior instead once you're out of there, too (i.e. in real traffic). Nothing is going to humble you more on a bike than ego.

I think they have to be, this is a scenario where you must be in control for everyone's safety.

Sometimes yea I would just nod half the time

Yea it is almost just as easy to fail here. But the fact that they make it so confusing adds on to the difficulty for sure.

You don’t want them the throttle absolutely blows.

It was scheduled for us when we finished the course I’m still not sure if it’s necessary, will be finding out soon.

I agree all new riders should take this.

This test is pretty useless if you know how a manual transmission works.

These bikes arent sold for public use just for the classes themselves. Fun fact: they aren’t even made in the US, they come from Canada

Do you at least know what model they are?

@@FXGamer22 sadly I do not

@@FXGamer22 X350RA

@@grgbulldog99 thanks!

Anytime works most of the people in my course that were younger didn’t have bikes yet a lot of the older people did tho.

If ur able to buy one you like now then practice prior to the course it would be a great headstart though

Yea and we can’t even practice for it either. The bikes also have the shittiest throttles known to man

Seen brother. Good luck whatever dumbass course dudes you gotta deal with! Rude and lame af.

Yea we did a graded test on the 3rd day too but at the end of the day they said we had to come back in 2 weeks for the test

I am going to dmv to register my bike soon so imma see if I’m good and don’t have to do it

Not the instructor when you’re riding. Something that could help is wearing glasses so you can keep your visor up. That might help you hear them

I think they do! Idk which one it is though

OMG YOU ARE SO RIGHT!!! They fucking suck

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