That's what she said.

I just wish they’d add GameCube colored buttons to their indigo colored versions now, like a green A and red B. once that’s added, I’d be stoked. 😊

You wouldn't think so, but stuff like that makes manufacturing more costly and complicated. I agree though.

that is a very sexy handheld !

🍿🍿

Lol

😂

Nah they kept them in storage for so long that's why they were defective

And saving Retroid 50 cents by not putting decent joysticks in it?

@@CigsInABlanket the joysticks are alright they really could've been better

That's why I said this video could have been 5 hours long.

@@TakiUdon I'm sorry, but unless you wrote the code, designed the shell, sourced the parts, created the electrical schematic and printed the PCBs, then you can't say you created the whole device, let alone any single component. A lot more goes into creating the device than picking an SoC and shell design from someone else's output. Moreover, it takes away from the people that actually did that work.

@@TakiUdonwhy couldn’t you answer any of this person’s questions? lol

Not quite.

"I designed the Retroid Pocket 3! Also please ignore the fact that it looks nearly identical to a Switch Lite!"

@@IrregularInterest there are only so many ways to add modern gamepad controls to a rectangular screen

Yeah, I was actually waiting for the part where he was "creating" it. All I heard was I suggested, I asked, I gave feedback, I didn't like, I liked. Not quite the same tbh. lol Whining about things and asking to do better is not the same as creating.

I agree. He provided feedback and some guidance but I'm sure there were other people who had a greater input. I honestly don't like that he purposefully titled the video misleadingly. What's so hard about just saying "Hey, I helped!". Saying you created it makes it seem like no one else helped or had any input.

Software changed a lot after I stopped reviewing alpha/beta builds. That all seems to have gotten worse.

Exactly! He provided input but he titled the video to make it seem like he was the mastermind and sole person responsible.

1. I did not talk about the RP3 while reviewing or making videos on the RP2/2+. 2. I did not work for Retroid. 3. People buying something that I designed/helped to build has/had zero bearing on being able to design/help to build other handhelds.

@@TakiUdon You reviewed the RP2 and the RP2+ and encouraged people to buy those devices. You ALSO said (on your video advising people not to buy the RP3) that the RP3 was built BEFORE the launch of the RP2+ but had been delayed for months due to major issues. Which means, based on what YOU said, that when you covered the RP2+ in your videos, you had already designed the RP3 and were actively collaborating with Retroid (something which wasn't fully disclosed until your RP3 video). There's a difference between "being sent an early copy" or "giving some advices on ergonomics" and "fully designing/creating a device" (while not disclosing your full involvement with said company when reviewing their products). So either you created the RP3 (which means you WERE working with Retroid, whether you were being paid or not), or you're tryinng to take credit for something that isn't yours. In all cases, some things don't add up in your explanations.

@@orakaa Yeah I don't trust this KZfaqr

@@TakiUdonyou didn’t work for Retroid. You didn’t create the product. Why continue the hyperbolic lie?

Except the horrible horrible horrible select/start position. Hoping someone mods it to another location.

@@suhtangwong I've gotten used to it, but its also because I am a huge guy, so my index finger reaches over to click them fine :P

@@BanditTech I'm 6'4 but I still have to adjust my whole hand just to press it 🤦🏼‍♂️

I still much prefer the staggered thumbsticks, having them symmetrical at the bottom is a terrible choice

@@Digger-Nick but, it looks amazing!

I don't see how, but okay.

Same here. Mine came without a rom or a SD.

same here! i got a blank RP3 and RP3+ earlier this year. it's still questionable to say the least (that taki would get a refurbished device)..

Did you buy it in China?

@@RICHUNCLEPENNYBAGS77 In January, trough the retroid page. For that price, it was my best bet in south América. I earn around $400 bucks each month in what Is here a good paying job, so a Odín was not an option.

​@@nicolasmolina8558 are you guys in mainland china? Your English is very good! Or did you not watch the video? Lmao

Is it good for cloud gaming? Is it worth it to buy today?

@YourLifeWillForeverBeALie I love this thing, and yes Xbox Game pass is playable. However, the screen is a little small for modern titles. My two cents would be to look for something with a touch bigger screen if cloud gaming is important, perhaps Ayn Odin?

​@@Chazz-Gaming This was very helpful, I like the Retroid pocket however I am going to look into other options as well. However I am considering purchasing a Retroid Pocket. Thank you!

You got exactly what you wanted lol

Can you share your Windwaker settings

​@@dubljay0612I too would like to know of these settings 🙏🏽

Including a camera would have been good for the local market, but I have some of the same thoughts as you.

Yeah. A decent screen size is key. Otherwise the visuals are just lost.

If only it was as simple as copy the Switch Lite (even if we were to say that you improve absolutely nothing from their design). I'm sure by now you'd see plenty of good clones on the market, yet none exist.

I guess it would depend on how much the consultant did. I wasn't a consultant.

Well Anbernic did listen to many of my suggestions when they made the RG353P. I'm glad they listened.

@@TakiUdon The way the video is formatted, it makes it seem it was a consulting position.

@@Pridetoons Thank you for creating the RG353P!

Did you get it with an SD card? Can you share the store name with the Chinese characters?

I bought mine from the official store, and it didn't come with an SD card full of Roms either. I am from Brazil.

I wondered if the China-market version is the only one to include ROMs, but there seems to be some conflicting info

Where can i buy this exact one with the roms already in it? Or yours?

@@LucasAndrade-wh3xk I'm sorry to hear that 😞

I didn't sell it to them. They wanted help to make a new brand and pitched this as the central product. There are other projects that I have been even more involved in than this, but there are also ones that my role ends at design, or some late stage in product development. If the ask on the manufacturer for something that I want to exist is too great (cost/time/difficulty), I'll offer up everything that I can do for free to make it happen. In many cases, the experience is invaluable. Those are usually the terms that I go for because some of the stuff that I pitch takes a significant investment. I also don't think this review is that harsh. The only real disappointment for me is seeing two issues that were claimed to have been fully addressed in response to my RP3 video (screen flickering/rambo app killing). Aside from that, it's just price. I can't be the only person who thinks this is too close to Odin pricing. As for Reddit, I don't care. I lived this and I know what I did. Half the people think I'm lying and the other half are arguing about semantics. Obviously other people worked on this too and I have talked about them before in videos, interviews, and on Discord, but you don't see any of them denying that this one was mine. If you exclude things that were outsourced (pcb layout, initial 3D modeling, heat solution, etc), the entire team that actively worked on this was on average 5 or so including me. Depending on the point of production, this number could go up (beta and RC testing had 2 people testing full-time) or down (painting & plastic injection mold testing was just me and one other person).

But that doesn't get them to fix the software and this is the same software that will be used on the Flip. It's easier for them to just fix it and OTA it out to everyone, not just people who watch me talk about it.

@@TakiUdon Have you let them know about the issue? Because you are the only one to even notice that there is some performance problems.

@@TakiUdon tbh it sounds like youre just bitter about working with them because of their different business values. I couldn't care less if they decided to ship roms for the mainland market. If they listened to you, they may have a better product, but they also may not be as profitable or still around as a company. The reality is that there are corners that need to be cut to meet launch windows and problems with suppliers, and cost cutting that needs to happen to create a financially viable product. As a designer you're breaking the cardinal rule by designing for yourself and not the market. For example, not every gives a damn about retro feeling controllers. Look at the Nintendo Switch joycons. "It's supposed to be the people's brand." Really? Who decided that? You? Who are the 'people' its really designed for? I think they made the mistake of letting in a nobody with no business or engineering or design experience into their house. Sure you helped because their design vendor sucked, but if I were them I would thank you for your contribution and definitely not keep you around going forward. You holding out on adhoc software fixes just to spite them or 'get them to see the light' is just the final straw. Tired of hearing your entitled whining. "ItS eAsY tO jUsT fIx It AnD oTa." Really? Who's gonna sponsor that? Have you ever ran a technical development project? Have you ever budgeted for a development project? I'm gonna guess no. So sit down and be quiet.

@@TakiUdon and another thing. Any moron can sit down and pick apart what is wrong with something. But if you can't come up with a solution of how to get from A to B while keeping your stakeholders happy and then execute the plan to completion, then you are just noise. No utility, just getting in the way.

@@TakiUdon whether or not that would be the best solution, the chances are they won't do that. so everyone who watches you and has this device would appreciate some advice on how to fix it ourselves

This product predates my "why I didn't review RP3" video.

He poured the plastic molds himself bro...

It's "I, I, I" when he talks about his ideas and "they, they, they" when he talks about flaws in the finished product.

@@ravikanodia How awfully convenient for Taki that all the issues aren't from him.

Considering that I *actually* created this, no. The relevant people don't care about that at all.

@@TakiUdon ::i-made-this.gif::

@@TakiUdon You created a video bro. You're about as responsible for this product as I am for Arby's restocking the sauce after talking to the manager.

Yes, because I like the company and I do not want them to face legal action that would close the company. Is that bad?

@@TakiUdon Going off the title of your video.. it sounds like you put the ROMs on there.

No gripes. Originally planned to have price as my only con. Everything else happened while I filmed.

haha sick burn!

I never said they were trash. The only mention I ever made with the word trash in my RP3 video was on the RP2 rumble motor. The video said I didn't think the product was ready for retail.

It's a great device.

Completely agree! I wish I could swap shells for the retro looks.

rp2 look original, rp3 look like switch lite copy

No they're not, they only made one good Handheld. You can't be this bad at math.

@@Pridetoons why so offended? I'm basing my assertions on the fact that Retroid sells out of their stock right away and people on their sub reddit seem pretty excited about their products.

​@@LessonsOnTheWeb I'm not offended, It's just they only came out with one good Handheld. Every handheld before this one was garbage. Retroid has a horrible Track Record when it comes to Build Quality. Also by your metric Anbernic's Win600 was "Killing it" because it sold like hotcakes when it came out and still sales to day.

@@LessonsOnTheWeb they’re not offended, just an asshole who communicates thru condescension!

I don't believe there's a single person at this company that would say otherwise, sorry.

No, I created it. No one there would deny that.

@@TakiUdon no you didn’t. You said it yourself, you only gave suggestions. You also mentioned you don’t know why they took certain decisions, like the texture on the back. The “creator” of a device would know that, no?

Do you know how easy it is to actively avoid watching a KZfaq video about a specific product?

@@TakiUdon it may easy it does not mean that it is likely. A product you had “invested two years of your life in” you weren’t curious as to what other prominent tech/retro handheld KZfaqrs thought? That’s very hard to believe. I’ve no doubt you were clearly involved in its development - you demonstrate this effectively in the video. It’s creator? I’m sorry just no. I think you should post a redacted receipt of this order you made directly from retroid proving you ordered it from them and it came preloaded with Roms.

They're coming out with a Retroid Pocket Flip now and you can expect the RP4 to come soon after. It's best to wait for when there is a big bump in power before upgrading.

Thank god at least one other person likes the stick on the top left. I thought I was going insane

@@TheRealAncientCarthage so muche better the stick on the top left, like on switch.

​@@TheRealAncientCarthageDozens of us! I get it though, dpad on top makes more sense for all 2d games. But my main target platform is N64.

If it was a clone of the SL, it would not have been awarded a design patent.

@@TakiUdon Do you have a link to the patent?

I didn't review the RP3.

@@TakiUdon corrections, the damming comments you made about it. I'm glad you mended your relationship

My favourite handheld is my phone 🙃

@@tgm.nabam101 Stick a gamesir or a razer kishi v2 (or a mount and controller) and you got the best handheld available

​@Tagum Nabam no buttons, it sucks lol

@@sycoraz my favourite gamesir x3

@@tgm.nabam101 I tried android phone + controller before I purchased a retro device and although the performance was great, the weight + size meant it wasn't the choice for me.

The hall sensors would fix that

BUT put select and start in a SMART area 🤦🏿‍♂️

If you have something specific, I can try to help you. I generally left everything on default sans GC/Wii.

@@TakiUdon i was mostly referring to the 3DS emulation, but i later found out that the emulator constantly gets updated. crazy how only a month ago most games were barely playable

He's literally just some guy who complains to them and sends them a bunch of emails. To say he "Created" the RP3 is a massive overstatement, at most, at most he was asked for feedback on the various designs. Since he's a youtuber with a large following who could either hurt of help their reputation, it makes sense that they'd kowtow to his suggestions, but it clearly has inflated his ego.

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/aLFletShlsmpk4E.html

@@TakiUdon Video isn't available 🤔

@@TakiUdon Ah I see now, link didn't work a few days ago cause he was hacked😂

I address this at the end of the video, and my sentiments are the same. One of the final things I did before leaving the project was to finalize T618 as the processor for the 3+. I would have tried to veto a 3-month launch window had I stayed, but I was overridden on the RP3 launch, so there is zero guarantee that they would have listened.

I can only say that if that is your biggest holdout, then I satisfied that requirement as well.

@@TakiUdon The retro community is grateful and too be honest you caught me in a bad mood that logged into KZfaq to switch off. The bad mood was brought on by the stress off owning a business and having employees etc whom rely on having an income and indeed I value them but juggling rising costs and keeping things a float gets too you, heck I've been working for free since 2017 and all my employees are making more than me... Not that any off them know and I keep persevering but indeed it gets too you at times. Peace and Love too all

It's not even worth a look. Especially with devices on the horizon like the KT R1

@@wordsmith451 completely disagree since I own one. Unfortunately some reviewers wrote off the device before it even had cfw. It's definitely worth consideration. Especially being significantly cheaper than its competitors and receiving updated kernel support as we speak. It's also primarily a Linux device vs the Android devices that you're taking about.

@@Andyyy982 I love Hard Kernel but I have the Odroid Go Advance and its not made as well as the chinese devices and the reviewers seem to have said the same for the OGS and OGU. I would love to support them over a chinese company but until the make a good quality handheld I'm not going to buy one from them.

The issue with all the odroid products is the quality of build and inputs. I had an OGS, and it was by far the worst quality for dpad, buttons, and analogue sticks out of any of the other handhelds I owned at the time (V90, Pocketgo s30, rg351p). Screen wasn't particularly good either, poor viewing angles.

@@retroman-- That's a different story entirely. For one the OGA was the first RK3326 handheld, as such it is responsible for a lot of the handhelds we see today as those companies all really established themselves in that era. Secondly, the OGA was a DIY kit. It was designed with simplicity in mind to help encourage assembly and a greater understanding of your devices. The OGA BE was one of the first handhelds to come with built-in wifi and it did so without any of the caveats of others like the Anbernic RG351p which was plagued with interference owing to their wifi chip placement. The OGS saw a bump in quality as it was no longer a DIY kit, despite what naysayers say. The screen was lovely, although some folks did get unit that appeared a little more washed out. But again that's still the state of handheld gaming from all of these companies from ayn to Retroid and everyone in between. The problem is some influential reviewers let loose opinions that weren't subjective, which lead to this gross misunderstanding of the quality of the Odroid products. Which in my experience of owning several Anbernic and Odroids, the Anbernic devices have been far more problematic. The RG351P I have was plagued with battery and button issues. The screen is dim. It's a dog, I've had to open it up multiple times. When I finally found the root of the trouble, it was because the battery contacts weren't soldered to the board they were just pushed together with some kapton tape over the contacts. Which is very poor assembly. I have since soldered the contacts and now the device charges and performs as it should. I've never really had cause to open my OGAs or OGS or even my OGU. I only did when I felt like spicing things up with colorful buttons, or in one case membranes.

Not quite.

Same. Not a single person. Taki should've ordered like any normal person would've.

You realize that retroid wasn’t responsible for that right?

Exactly

...you actually believe this clown?

I designed a lot of stuff during the time that this was in development. Maybe one of them or part of them will be in an RP4. I don't know.

It does, I wanted everything to be above-board.

Understandable. I would feel similarly in your position and I really did think that retroid these days has been above board. Especially because I had a very good experience. Booted to the startup wizard, no roms preloaded, I even (stupidly) ordered during CNY and the customer support responded when they got back from break. Regardless, good work on this system. It’s been getting a lot of use over here.

Yep, he got a returned product

There’s the upcoming anbernic rg 405 that might work for you then

If you already use android phone I recommending getting the galaxy z fold 4, with a gamesir x2 Bluetooth controller. It is 4:3, has a beautiful screen and some of the lowest input lag I've experienced on an android. It also has a Snapdragon 8 gen 2 which has plowed through every emulator I've thrown at it. I've yet to test switch but it should plow through a fair portion of that too. I searched for the right handheld for years and was surprised this folding iPad thing beats everything on the market 😂

@@RandomizationShow Erm, it retails for ~$1700.

@@paulie-g I'm on a payment plan like any other phone. Which is why I specified if you already used android phones

I'm with you on Waiting 1 more Gen, maybe 2. We're so close to a pocketable handheld being able to emulate PS2. The hardware is out there, it just needs to become affordable.

Under the circumstances, it makes sense. He was in communication with the company in for the standard RP3

Among other things, I also did software development on this device.

@@TakiUdon Sure you did. We all totally believe you.

He works in retroid

Yes, it's fine. Doing two types at the same time is strange.

​@@TakiUdon Indeed, I remember Retroid asking on KZfaq which type of buttons we prefer, shorty before original RP3 launch. And since some RP2 users like me had found the RP2 buttons too stiff, I answered conductive rubber. Man was I wrong since I loved the dome switches of my first RP3 and now abit less the conductive rubber of RP3+ buttons. But it is still, IMO, the best handheld out there, I truly love my RP3+ along with the confortable official grip❤. Great job Taki 👍. Just sad for you about this drama between you and the company.

It might be related, but I haven't checked. I'm waiting to see if the company will address this in an OTA.

​@@TakiUdon But, could you tell us what the problem is, so we can all get more performance out of our device?

@@TakiUdon I've come back to this video to make sure that you did say that you'd make an update on this issue. So did they fix it in the OTA update?

Stop waiting these things rock

Seriously, i have only retroid pocket 2

It's a little more complicated than that. :\