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Mythic+ SAVED! The Brilliant Changes in War Within... And Why Some Players Are Angry About Them

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Taliesin & Evitel

Taliesin & Evitel

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@otterotterottercid
@otterotterottercid Ай бұрын
I 100% thought hearthstone immediately when I saw the loading screen lol
@dmeep
@dmeep Ай бұрын
My favourite segment was "Evies beta rundown" i esp liked when Evi said "LETS RUNDOWN!" it really spoke to me on an emotional lvl
@playlistb3795
@playlistb3795 Ай бұрын
M+ changes are cool because now top end players will be able to have consistency, while the rest of us get to have fun with the rest of the good affixes.
@Kylora2112
@Kylora2112 Ай бұрын
Yeah, I love it :)
@frenchdream330
@frenchdream330 Ай бұрын
Top players are actually crying
@davidreynaud3299
@davidreynaud3299 Ай бұрын
@@frenchdream330 They are not, Top players asked for this for years
@frenchdream330
@frenchdream330 Ай бұрын
@@davidreynaud3299 Really ? because last time i checked Yoda was pretty much against it, Razhag which is a top tier healer is also complaining about it. Equinoxx seems pretty happy about the changes.
@_jvyden_5156
@_jvyden_5156 Ай бұрын
@@davidreynaud3299 Pretty sure top players complained about rewards for years now
@mutebuffalo1344
@mutebuffalo1344 Ай бұрын
The login screen, which I agree isn't thrilling, is the MOST first World (of Warcraft) problem I have heard with this game. We are going to barely see it. Remember that time when Shadowlands was a thing.....
@Ak3R0
@Ak3R0 Ай бұрын
Those M+ changes will bring stability and predictability to high keys, amazing. No more dead weeks, and mental health support groups for our healers!
@aaronbooth200
@aaronbooth200 Ай бұрын
The beginning skit is exactly how I approached this new login screen😂. You guys just get me
@Menjoood
@Menjoood Ай бұрын
Let's Rundown!! Evi's Beta Rundown is my jam.
@Rokus_Ichiban
@Rokus_Ichiban Ай бұрын
From the intro to knifey wifey all the way to the end: this Weekly Reset was an absolute banger.
@fioxeraviari5002
@fioxeraviari5002 Ай бұрын
I like to think that the start up screen is the first in a series, like now its cracked, and in the second season it bursts open or something
@bub64882
@bub64882 Ай бұрын
Good point. For the first time in it's history, WoW is doing a Threequel. Perhaps the login screen has a through line to the third expansion. That would be interesting, but I still like the other login screens better.
@Emptylord
@Emptylord Ай бұрын
My biggest takeaway from the log-in screen discourse is finding out that other people are still "logging in". I-- am I weird that I let BattleNet do it for me? I only see the log-in screen for the duration of the "fetching server lists" message, which isn't even long enough for Alexstrasza to land on the pillar in the distance; when there's server issues; or when I've been nerd-logged for being afk... which means that I basically associate seeing Alexstrasza with downtime rather than the start of my adventure. I don't even remember the Legion or BFA, and while I recognise Shadowlands - I didn't realize it was the log-in artwork and I only recognized it a promotional image. For me, it's all about the loading screen art - like the artwork with the Aspects and the Eternals, or the shot with the Drust guy leering from the side of the screen. Make *those* animated! I do think your speculation is correct though. It does looks like art that is intended to evolve. I hope for everyone else's sake that it evolves more quickly than per-expansion based on how everyone else is reacting.
@no-budhee6657
@no-budhee6657 Ай бұрын
That’s exactly what I thought when I heard people complaining about it. I guess they have really slow internet maybe?
@robinxbert
@robinxbert Ай бұрын
I came to look for this comment, who has time to see/worry about the log in screen?!
@KS-gf3tv
@KS-gf3tv Ай бұрын
We see the login screen for like 5 sec per gameplay session, since you log in from the launcher, not from the game client directly anymore. Spending all kinds of time on a fancy login screen nobody will ever spend any time looking at is a total waste of time.
@lelandburroughs3248
@lelandburroughs3248 Ай бұрын
I think we as a community get a bit of information like the log in screen and we just need to let it cook and see how it plays out before we get to upset about what it looks like. It could play out completely different from what we see.
@FancyTophatDude
@FancyTophatDude Ай бұрын
The world map they went for really is kinda sad. Would've been so cool to actually see the zones vertically stacked on top of each other in a stylized way. I guess kinda like that transition screen map you get in Hades for example.
@TommyOhmalley
@TommyOhmalley Ай бұрын
Mmmm as long as I don’t have to left click and right to change the map depth. I’m all for artistry but I think the map good as it is
@frenchbassguy
@frenchbassguy Ай бұрын
Boy Evi's Beta Roundup sure rounded up all the Beta news! Let's rrrrroundup!
@Luc.Hewett
@Luc.Hewett Ай бұрын
We have been blessed with so much Evi
@FlyingPig990
@FlyingPig990 Ай бұрын
I admire your guys' continuing enthusiasm in delivering all this content. Very cool people.
@HavocR24
@HavocR24 Ай бұрын
The Dark Portal! 6:12 Lmao
@InfestationPony
@InfestationPony Ай бұрын
You guys remember at the start of Dragonflight when we wished for more dragons to come swooping down alongside our progress besides only Alexstrasza? Yeah, not doing that again.
@tzechZ4
@tzechZ4 Ай бұрын
First I'm hearing about people being angry about them lol
@playlistb3795
@playlistb3795 Ай бұрын
I feel like they are a week late lol
@happyclam1266
@happyclam1266 Ай бұрын
Yeah, my first thought is that the "new Tali" is all about creating anger for clicks, and I don't like it.
@MegaSlacker123
@MegaSlacker123 Ай бұрын
Same everything I’ve seen has been positive
@TheShawnMower
@TheShawnMower Ай бұрын
A loud minority might be mad but everybody I talked to is elated
@isawilseabrooks
@isawilseabrooks Ай бұрын
The WoWhead comments were full of anger which was baffling because the changers are nice.
@TriskelArts
@TriskelArts Ай бұрын
11/10 banging episode. To be fair, if they would have left the login screen as the dark portal since Vanilla then I wouldn't have complained.
@Evil_Befall
@Evil_Befall Ай бұрын
When evitel said they had a sketch planned on the weekly reset for the new login screen i knew it would be good 😂 *The login screen kinda reminds me of a rice pie in the oven*
@nasferon3520
@nasferon3520 Ай бұрын
Gotta say though, that login screen is much easier on the eyes than the flashbang that is the Final Fantasy 14 Dawntrail login screen.
@CGunnels93
@CGunnels93 Ай бұрын
If one of the biggest complaints about The War Within beta is the login screen, I think we are in for a pretty solid expansion.
@clarkmichaels822
@clarkmichaels822 Ай бұрын
Wouldnt be surprised if this login screen evolves every expansion in the World Soul saga, or even every major patch.
@Dooferification
@Dooferification Ай бұрын
The music bit on the log in screen was amazing. I do think some animation and music is going to sell the login screen, i hope
@wynnefox
@wynnefox Ай бұрын
I was expecting the Jurassic Park on a recorder track.
@andrewshandle
@andrewshandle Ай бұрын
So, I log in via battle net and instantly move past this, I haven't even thought about a login screen for like a decade. The fact that people are losing their minds is predictable though because people on the forums live to be angry at all times.
@molin1
@molin1 Ай бұрын
Ultimately the login screen is not something we see very often anymore so maybe they just decided not to spend a lot of time on it. Or this could even be step 1 towards removing that concept entirely, i.e. maybe one day you'll login from the battlenet launcher or not at all.
@skodass1
@skodass1 Ай бұрын
Yeah the Dragon Flight orders system is the ONLY reason why i for once havn't maxed out a single crafting profession.
@Kylora2112
@Kylora2112 Ай бұрын
Nah, the new Warband screen is the new login screen. Logging in is like 95% automatic so the only time you'll see it is if a. you're in a queue/waiting for servers to come up after maintenance, you get disconnected or c. your PC is *really* slow. Also, the new affix system is AWESOME. Low keys get some mix-ups to keep things interesting for lower tiers of play and high tiers are just 100% consistent for diving in to playing without having to deal with any kind of changes.
@UltimateGamerCC
@UltimateGamerCC Ай бұрын
i feel called out tbh...
@Anarnam
@Anarnam Ай бұрын
The affixes were there thing that discouraged me from doing m+ so perhaps with this change maybe I will be incentivised to do them and not drop the game after few months
@BrokenAndStable
@BrokenAndStable Ай бұрын
I am hoping that login screen is going to act like a gate or sliding door, revealing the actual log in screen on launch day.
@sonnyliston3762
@sonnyliston3762 Ай бұрын
That opening skit really cracked me up today 😂
@swampsect
@swampsect Ай бұрын
Last I checked ppl loved the changes to M+.
@Iceburg2355
@Iceburg2355 Ай бұрын
The forms always find a way.
@harlequingnoll5
@harlequingnoll5 Ай бұрын
It'd be a surprise to NOT hear people are angry at this point.
@wow6720
@wow6720 Ай бұрын
"Fun tunnel", bruh she's killing it
@bugleboop
@bugleboop Ай бұрын
it would be amazing if on launch it breaks fully open to show that territory with a giant shard in the roof.
@Pakulia
@Pakulia Ай бұрын
Sure, the login screen is kinda boring, but there is never any need to look at it anymore, is there? Back when we had the awesome Sindragosa one, we were indeed looking at it. Nowadays we click PLAY on the launcher and the game zooms past the login screen.. Id rather they spend their good resources on other things :D
@RazanaArcclaw
@RazanaArcclaw Ай бұрын
I think a lot of people didnt notice the balls xalatath summons don't HAVE to be cc/kick/knockback. You can run through them. So if you have a melee or a warlock or hunter near em they can just run through em all, they dont take damage, just need speed.
@RodrigoKenjiHiga
@RodrigoKenjiHiga Ай бұрын
You forgot the Hide Pants for transmog. The best feature of TWW.
@archivist_of_dragonstone
@archivist_of_dragonstone Ай бұрын
Look, some person on the art team put their whole artussy into that big veiny ball, and now we’re all just sh*tting on it. Feels bad, man😅
@AVBRIZE
@AVBRIZE Ай бұрын
imo +7 affix is also targeting the death skips. usual 20 second loss or affixed 1 minute loss matters a lot to many grps and will cause special pathing just for these
@keithb6344
@keithb6344 Ай бұрын
Death skips just aren’t that common
@unclesamsessentials4152
@unclesamsessentials4152 Ай бұрын
3:28 You are completely missing the point.... In DF if you did anything other than crafting from day one in the expansion, a monopoly had already formed in every crafting profession, due to people only wanting rank 5 gear. Only the people that got that ability first got business, meaning you'd have to pay hundreds of thousands in gold just to rank up to have a chance at competing. This is an amazing change, and has me actually interested in returning. No, players don't want to create gear solely for npcs.. Yes, they want an opportunity to compete.
@7PlayingWithFire7
@7PlayingWithFire7 Ай бұрын
But... the first people into the system also spent hundreds of thousands of gold.
@geekyhennessy
@geekyhennessy Ай бұрын
pulsating magma vein is EGREGIOUS 😂
@Pumpnineteen
@Pumpnineteen Ай бұрын
ngl, I never even see the login screen anymore with auto login and whatnot
@elxjasonx
@elxjasonx Ай бұрын
I dony remember the last time i actually seen the log in screen, you all are crazy
@mattwo7
@mattwo7 Ай бұрын
7:20 Something something Mass Effect 3 endings
@alexfdezpal
@alexfdezpal Ай бұрын
The login screen is one of those details that technically is irrelevant but in practical are so important because of how many iconic ones we had in the past. No matter you are only going to look at it for a second before getting into the game because you will log in reminded by how underwhelming it is.
@Jnill96
@Jnill96 Ай бұрын
What music is playing with Evi's Beta Rundown @11:30? I don't remember which expansion it's from. :(
@joshuaslate393
@joshuaslate393 Ай бұрын
You had me at Login Screen and it's Music. When you find the Tavern lmk
@michealrossiter148
@michealrossiter148 Ай бұрын
Done correctly, ANY character on your PC thats done XYZ quests should unlock details on the login..... It'd need to be locally stored though as it has to change based on what your account has done!
@witcherpie
@witcherpie 23 күн бұрын
bro i wish wow adopted the hearthstone art so much. It's the main reason why I got invested into wow in the first place
@labatleam637
@labatleam637 Ай бұрын
The hearthstone joke at the begining made me laugh to tears
@nono7105
@nono7105 Ай бұрын
12 billion Australian dollars? I feel attacked. I can't argue the point, but I feel attacked.
@mattwo7
@mattwo7 Ай бұрын
12:44 RIP Canadians or anyone else who uses dollars I guess.
@AustinPhillips94
@AustinPhillips94 Ай бұрын
We never see the login screen unless we D/C anyway so i don't understand the complaint.
@sean3859
@sean3859 Ай бұрын
Tali you can't do that, at 17:52 you gave your entire American audience a heart attack
@12fulworld69
@12fulworld69 Ай бұрын
I do think the bargain affixes would be just the two. It seemed like these were just the ones being tested right now. My guess would be around 6 affixed that rotate once TWW is out.
@backtrakk2121
@backtrakk2121 Ай бұрын
The Weekly Vault expansion log in screen looks decent, I hope I get a trinket this week
@Ermji
@Ermji Ай бұрын
Tbh that Heartstone login music would be fire
@UltimateGamerCC
@UltimateGamerCC Ай бұрын
as someone who previously struggled to log on during Wrath due to Sindragosa, i'm fine with the underwhelming login screen, that being said there's a chance that this screen will evolve during TWW and possibly even throughout the Worldsoul Saga, so i dont think that we should get hung up about this screen for long,
@RybackStun
@RybackStun Ай бұрын
Been a minute since I've been able to catch a Weekly Reset. Great stuff as always, love the uptick in Evi segments! Thanks for keeping us up to date on all the WoW shenanigans, you two!
@sojualpaka1165
@sojualpaka1165 Ай бұрын
0:35 While i am somewhat disappointed with the visuals, wowhead did actually drop the music, and it definately works for me (still would love some open space as a login screen though).
@philld5862
@philld5862 Ай бұрын
That login screen is a come-on-. Blizz know its a shocker- some big lore drop early in game will unlock the proper job🤔🤔
@Auscheels
@Auscheels Ай бұрын
I really appreciate the saucy bit of chesticle Tali shows off here.
@BrendanZanitCoen
@BrendanZanitCoen Ай бұрын
Nobody is mad? Where did u find that one hater?
@TheDragontyl
@TheDragontyl Ай бұрын
could help but notice that glowing d20 in the background and i was wondering where you got it from? if anybody knows
@julian.galenziok
@julian.galenziok Ай бұрын
Good thing with affixes. I always stopped playing in the week with sanguine and after 7 days i didnt even want to start playing again.
@buddybarlow9604
@buddybarlow9604 Ай бұрын
I mean it's not the greatest but the think the log-in screen is decent
@EloyBushida
@EloyBushida Ай бұрын
I hate how shitty engagement bait titles have become required on this shitty website. I don't want to feel negatively the moment I read the video title, its really a problem.
@superj-man137
@superj-man137 Ай бұрын
Evie's beta rundown was fantastic! "Let's Rundown!"
@rfjohnson69
@rfjohnson69 Ай бұрын
Am i th only one who thinks Evi has a xal'a'tath roleplay outfit in the ckoset for Tali that she brings out on special occasions
@Chace957
@Chace957 Ай бұрын
Nah. Tali is the one who wears it 😂😂
@Hearrok
@Hearrok Ай бұрын
holy crap, they actually took my advice from the forums and changed the affixes in the way I wrote x) The only thing that's not as nice is the key level squish... I'd rather have 100 keys levels than 12... That way the performance would be much more pronouced... Now jumping a key from 7-8 will just feel like such a huuuuge jump.
@JustAnotherGuy1991
@JustAnotherGuy1991 Ай бұрын
login screen is fine comon you only see it for a bit anyway.
@TDQ_Gaming
@TDQ_Gaming Ай бұрын
Should have went with the L.A. Story art museum scene.
@mikeclifton4316
@mikeclifton4316 Ай бұрын
The Dark Portal bit had me rolling lmao!
@LittleMissSmallPaw
@LittleMissSmallPaw Ай бұрын
I am also not a fan of the map, they should've just stacked the zones in an artsy way. Theres no need to actually see the whole zone in this view anyways. We know they can do fun, quirky maps since the Dawn of the Infinite (although that one did a terrible job at being a MAP). Just have a stylized coreway connect all three zones layered ontop of each other and it would be fine. It really just needs to look cool and enable you to click on the individual zone maps where you actually need to look for details
@Minorheadlines
@Minorheadlines Ай бұрын
Loved the new segment --- Evi's Beta rundown!
@SupachargedGaming
@SupachargedGaming Ай бұрын
"NPCs also tip properly, unlike some players" Tipping 75g with no materials provided. I dunno, that seems basically the same as those players to me...
@kevindespot3525
@kevindespot3525 Ай бұрын
the scripts are always funny and clever, but this one especially so! Genuinely laughed out loud at the intro bit
@TheDragonOfWhi
@TheDragonOfWhi Ай бұрын
If that was the music, that sounds like camp/warband music.
@WestonTeli
@WestonTeli Ай бұрын
people acting like they don't just use Bnet login and only see the login screen for 3 seconds lmao
@WalterRiggs
@WalterRiggs Ай бұрын
7:45 what Jim hearing is that the game is now so good, there is nothing left to complain about except for a login screen that you’ll only see for 1-5 seconds whenever you log in. 😂
@gustavocados
@gustavocados Ай бұрын
"Imagine this big veiny ball, erupting!" Oh I'm imagining it. I'm imagining it all over Azeroth.
@razvann9884
@razvann9884 Ай бұрын
Well ive seen people get 2k rating in M+ in the first week, i dont really think anything will be cut shorter than it already is....maybe for people who struggle a lot or have weaker nonmeta classes but there really wasnt any shitty week if you played just for that 2k+ rating. Pushers wont stop pushing anyway
@alexanderball9080
@alexanderball9080 Ай бұрын
Great, now I’m going to hear HS music in my head every time I login during TWW no matter what they actually use. 😂
@TheShawnMower
@TheShawnMower Ай бұрын
Idk where these angry people supposedly hiding out.
@CyclopsToppingWolverine
@CyclopsToppingWolverine Ай бұрын
the forums... always the forums
@Chace957
@Chace957 Ай бұрын
Have you even MET the internet? 😂. You’ll find people who hate ANYTHING
@Vanishou
@Vanishou Ай бұрын
You don’t even see the login screen anymore since you can launch the game with the launcher
@joelbest2424
@joelbest2424 Ай бұрын
All this hooplah about a log-in screen. That's like worrying about the box your new shoes came in.
@Braw-cf4ei
@Braw-cf4ei Ай бұрын
Considering you see it for 2 seconds while your account logs in I agree.
@watcherjoshua
@watcherjoshua Ай бұрын
I have no idea why anyone cares about the login screen. Yeah, back in Wrath and Cata you probably sat on it more waiting for downloads or queues, and the music is excellent. But I've never seen the Dragonflight login screen for more than 5 seconds at once. I don't even remember the Shadowlands, Battle for Azeroth, Legion, or Warlords of Draenor logins screens (though the latter was probably one of the Dark Portal images). The login screen is nostalgic for the early game, but it's irrelevant now.
@randsam2001
@randsam2001 Ай бұрын
why is everybody crying about a login screen that you will see for 4 sec ?
@fuzzysham88
@fuzzysham88 Ай бұрын
As an Aussie i find your joke about our terrible exchange rate to be offensive! Wait did i say offensive? I meant completely true and hilarious
@chadvader974
@chadvader974 Ай бұрын
Im a classic andy.. retail is bloat. Long live the classic logon screen.
@josephboys9965
@josephboys9965 Ай бұрын
I am so sick of the constant bitching about EVERYTHING. FFS people the login screen really? 1st world problems.
@brambleberrydesigns
@brambleberrydesigns Ай бұрын
So excited to see Evi back!
@HumbIeStudent
@HumbIeStudent Ай бұрын
Keys above +12 are not "top level player keys", and that's when we have "no affixes", I feel like they should remove the xalatath affix at 15 or so not 12 ... unless blizzard's intent is to squish the level of keys everyone is doing, with the new +12 20% dmg increase to everything, it might just lower the highest level key we can do, in which case maybe it'll be fine. As someone who primarily has done keys above 12 this season and doesn't really go much lower, I would not be experiencing the seasonal affix much at all, and I kind of want to.
@plankton383
@plankton383 Ай бұрын
I just started WoW like a month ago, and found your video. Funniest WoW video I’ve watched so far. Instant sub.
@albertgeorgy6827
@albertgeorgy6827 Ай бұрын
The loading screen is representative for how hyped people are for tww. I want the next expansion already. Also can they make m+ even more complicated?...like wtf
@Frostedbudss
@Frostedbudss Ай бұрын
Also it's supposed to be speed up season as well
@aireeysplace
@aireeysplace Ай бұрын
Man the title screen thing isn't the WORST THING EVER but just feels like such a miss! Epic expansions defining title screens are such a STAPLE for all wow players. Dragonflights wasn't crazy but to be honest I came to love it in the end. That pure epic fantasy feeling is just gone. Here's to hoping this one changes over time!
@mandus7510
@mandus7510 Ай бұрын
Ya lets not make a bunch of fuss over a nothing like a login if it means they can spend more time on gameplay mechanics and open world bore like world quests. Example of how youtuber/streamer influence diverts developers from the silent majority
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