Talk Africa: French backlash in Africa

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CGTN Africa

10 ай бұрын

Hostility against France in their former West African colonies has hit an all-time high. In Mali, Burkina Faso, and Niger the pushback has been angry, messy and noisy. This week Talk Africa explores the genesis of anti-French sentiment in Francophone West Africa, how it’s playing out, its geopolitical context, the likely outcomes for the wider Sahel region, and what the future may hold for France-Africa relations.
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@tkk3852
@tkk3852 10 ай бұрын
Excellent discussion. We want colonizer France out of Africa.
@Yayoz-dj5nu
@Yayoz-dj5nu 10 ай бұрын
Not only them the German the US all off them
@Lukafrica
@Lukafrica 10 ай бұрын
🇬🇧 too. They never left Kenya 🇰🇪alone
@TheMagicJIZZ
@TheMagicJIZZ 10 ай бұрын
​@@Lukafricathey don't have military bases but share a training one for artillery as a partner with the Kenyan army
@chris1806
@chris1806 10 ай бұрын
@@TheMagicJIZZ ?
@TLspoon
@TLspoon 10 ай бұрын
@tkk3852 Yes!! Support Niger. This is all about Uranium and Niger waking up and deciding not to just give away the uranium/gas to France. France is making a stance about resources that are Not even theirs. I love how social media is not allowing them Western country and Euro to Control the Narrative any longer.
@ahmedlaroub4760
@ahmedlaroub4760 10 ай бұрын
The French arrogance and exploiting of Africa has shown us that slavery has never been over. Rise Africa rise...
@emilio2647
@emilio2647 10 ай бұрын
@ahmedlaroub4760 I think the current leader of Niger needs to expel the French military like Gadaffi did back in the late 60s and early 70s.
@rowbearly6128
@rowbearly6128 10 ай бұрын
2 million slaves in Africa now, enslaved by Africans. YOU are the oppressors, the slavers, and always have been.
@smlambo3928
@smlambo3928 10 ай бұрын
100%
@pepino7042
@pepino7042 10 ай бұрын
THE ECOWAS ARE THE PUPPETS 😢
@RaineRay-gn3bn
@RaineRay-gn3bn 10 ай бұрын
Make an example of the traitors who sell their own people out to be exploited by foreigners
@waynehanson6872
@waynehanson6872 10 ай бұрын
The time has come to expose the crimes and reconciliation of Europe’s colonialism in Africa
@emilio2647
@emilio2647 10 ай бұрын
@waynehanson6872 Belgium, France and the Netherlands are war criminals.
@joankarla-dinga5831
@joankarla-dinga5831 10 ай бұрын
We are already requiring and taking back the stolen Skulpturs. Nigeria, Zimbabwe etc have receive alot. Many more countries are advocating for Charge too. I believe this Generation has a difficulties Task but God is their Strength they will bring Africa together! One Africa and make Africa great! 🎊💯🙏
@og-greenmachine8623
@og-greenmachine8623 9 ай бұрын
It’s worldwide There are apartheid’s in America and Australia, -in South America. This is not just Africa. This is a system of colonization that has blanketed 👉🏽The entire plane
@ptofview
@ptofview 10 ай бұрын
Military coup for true independence from colonialism is ALWAYS justified!
@hubertbailey2225
@hubertbailey2225 10 ай бұрын
I am confident that this generation will remove ever obstacle that prevents them from becoming a nation. No matter the cost, we unite or die as fools.
@mufasasdaughter4831
@mufasasdaughter4831 10 ай бұрын
Exactly
@lionchampion587
@lionchampion587 10 ай бұрын
👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿
@abdihassan6452
@abdihassan6452 10 ай бұрын
Agree
@mna7308
@mna7308 10 ай бұрын
Stay strong and live with dignity or fall with courage
@GibrilCamara
@GibrilCamara 10 ай бұрын
is by force or by fire! if they kill one like Martyred Sankara, there are 1000s like him waiting to replace. How can small country like france hold a whole continent hostage with impunity to do as they like.
@oluwaolufemi803
@oluwaolufemi803 10 ай бұрын
Keep the vultures out,in with African unity.
@rykson161
@rykson161 10 ай бұрын
Thank you Mr & Mrs Internet No more hiding anything !!!
@reliancelogistics8232
@reliancelogistics8232 10 ай бұрын
Well said
@eswaribalan164
@eswaribalan164 10 ай бұрын
Vultures take what they need only. Colonial thieves take and take and take...
@ninadaly7639
@ninadaly7639 9 ай бұрын
Really. How are you going to keep Russia and china out?
@potatoeheadjoe66
@potatoeheadjoe66 9 ай бұрын
​@@ninadaly7639They're not. I'm all for cutting off ade to them with China and Russian economies in summersault right now. Why should we feel sympathetic for naive people that act like the US colonized Africa? Older ones like myself remember how prosperous Africa always has been.
@user-ih6jh9jx2y
@user-ih6jh9jx2y 10 ай бұрын
As an Anglophone Cameroonian, I feel it when my fellow Cameroonian on the panel there (David Otto-Endeley) says that the French 'brand' in Africa has become so toxic. We have one of the world's longest-serving (40 years in office) and one of the oldest in terms of age (Biya is 90!) and most Cameroonians believe he has been kept in office so long because he serves France and not even Cameroon. While we are not likely to see a coup in Biya's lifetime, our fear is that his prolonged stay in power will leave a vacuum and tussle for power which like in Niger, the military will take advantage of , sadly. Yes, African leaders must start serving Africans and not getting rich and being in the good books of their Western 'masters' at the expense of the masses. Very healthy discussion, though Mr. Toker kept rambling and never saying anything concrete in my opinion bc he came across as a French apologist
@qqaamam788
@qqaamam788 10 ай бұрын
I get your point and well said to an extent. I totally agree with what you said about old president Biya. However, achieving true independence must start from a grassroots level. And thus, you must start by properly decolonizing yourself mentally. As you mentioned " as a Anglophone Cameroonian " I put it to you that you are a Cameroonian and a African, period! Why do you guys in Cameroon and French speaking African countries choose to degrade yourselves publicly by categorising yourselves as 'Francophone' and 'Anglophone' frankly I find it absolutely pathetic. And I'm sure most independently thinking Africans will like my comment and agree with me. Subsequently, that's why this comment will get more likes than your comment.
@jollcheist1443
@jollcheist1443 10 ай бұрын
You guys have done so much damage to Africa stolen and raped created endless conflict you are talking about the grassroots believe me it has started this young population gonna be your tomorrow's nightmare the entire world can see clearly who is the problem via social media era. Africa is the 4 wheel of France never forget your Empire just like others was built on Africa's back! I agree we must decolonize our minds but like everything else it gonna take time! The North Pole ice melting isn't immediate just like BRICKS! But it's coming and you guys gonna be really hurt compared to those who are used to hardship. LOOK AT how ya were crying just for wearing a mask during COVID! What is done today gonna have consequences tomorrow good or bad! You guys are responsible for 90 % of the world's turmoil and when blacks do bad they are just dumb for emulating your way. We are not living in your Tarzan world anymore we are waking up. Stop meddling in others' business minds and take care of the French citizen. De Gaulle was un Grand homme mais pas pour l Afrique!
@bikoizrael7535
@bikoizrael7535 10 ай бұрын
Hey Bro stop degrading yourself You Are A Cameroonian African King Period Stop Mental Slavery take this in love please❤
@cygnusatratus6004
@cygnusatratus6004 10 ай бұрын
Too many camerooians illegals in Argentina👎💀
@yusufdebalke8797
@yusufdebalke8797 10 ай бұрын
Because you sleep
@HillaE2095
@HillaE2095 10 ай бұрын
Excellent platform to articulate African problems; by Africans and for Africa. Thank you Beatrice
@patrickbonney8082
@patrickbonney8082 10 ай бұрын
The whole world wants france out.
@Saba-if5mu
@Saba-if5mu 10 ай бұрын
Mama Africa can take care of her children
@lovestrong3582
@lovestrong3582 10 ай бұрын
@@Saba-if5mu Mama Africa has been taking care of the whole world now its time for her to take care of her own people.
@og-greenmachine8623
@og-greenmachine8623 9 ай бұрын
I’m Franch-Indian🇺🇸 & 👉🏽I WANT those pale face, GONE🔥
@speakup18
@speakup18 10 ай бұрын
France 🇫🇷 time is overdue no returning back..
@lovestrong3582
@lovestrong3582 10 ай бұрын
Its done. i believe this is the time now that France will be gone for good and other colonizer countries. Its this era Africa will rise.
@speakup18
@speakup18 10 ай бұрын
@@lovestrong3582 I hope so
@ibrahimultimate404
@ibrahimultimate404 10 ай бұрын
I’ll love to see this shit happen it’s worth sacrificing my life for the next generation to be respected just like any other human being deserves to be respected.
@speakup18
@speakup18 10 ай бұрын
@@ibrahimultimate404 ✊🏿✊🏿
@lovestrong3582
@lovestrong3582 10 ай бұрын
@@ibrahimultimate404 Yes it is.
@Dreadedwarrior
@Dreadedwarrior 10 ай бұрын
My elder uncle paul is the only person speaking straight facts . The west, France colonizers & their colonizing systems must go 🙏🏾 Stay strong Niger 🇳🇪 #Africanunity ❤️💛💚🖤
@Facts-Over-Feelings
@Facts-Over-Feelings 10 ай бұрын
FRANCE WANT RUSSIA OUT OF UKRAINE YET WON'T LEAVE THESE MANY AFRICAN NATIONS ALONE.. THE hypocrisy.. THE NERVE.
@Dreadedwarrior
@Dreadedwarrior 10 ай бұрын
Colonizers must go Africa for African. Talk BLACK to mi or don't talk to mi #OneAfrica #Africafreeofcolonizers
@ninadaly7639
@ninadaly7639 9 ай бұрын
@@Facts-Over-FeelingsBut the Ukraine FEEDS 49% of Africa!
@potatoeheadjoe66
@potatoeheadjoe66 9 ай бұрын
​@@ninadaly7639That's definitely facts over feelings!
@mssumitrapal
@mssumitrapal 10 ай бұрын
Keep it up Afrika, we the ppl of the world are with you
@hughca1
@hughca1 10 ай бұрын
Death to imperialism
@TheAlien-H20
@TheAlien-H20 10 ай бұрын
Except Europe and USA lol
@picsandvidstv1348
@picsandvidstv1348 10 ай бұрын
No, it’s just us Africans who care. The rest of the world don’t give a f..
@jtt1928
@jtt1928 10 ай бұрын
@@TheAlien-H20we don’t need them!
@sherribarry7143
@sherribarry7143 9 ай бұрын
@@TheAlien-H20 Loud & Wrong. We see what is going on in the Motherland. We stand with our people on no more neocolonialism of Africa. Africa, continue your stand on keeping & manufacturing your raw materials on African soil.
@juwanyirenda3457
@juwanyirenda3457 10 ай бұрын
Many countries got their independence through armed struggle. Why condemn these coups in former french colonies if this is the only way these countries can free themselves from the clutches of french imperialism.
@leobvenzen8565
@leobvenzen8565 9 ай бұрын
Exactly!! That is nonsensical! Freedom isnt free and no one gives you freedom! Freedim is taken!!
@carlalandrau6033
@carlalandrau6033 9 ай бұрын
They should fight for their freedom and the freedom of their people what kind of nonsense is that. Why wouldn't you ask the traitor that who is helping your oppressors more than his own people
@ninadaly7639
@ninadaly7639 9 ай бұрын
But the are walking right into Chinese and Russian colonialism.
@carlalandrau6033
@carlalandrau6033 9 ай бұрын
I think China would be worse than the US in France. Look at how they treat their own people. He wanted to shoot the people who are infected with covid initially can you imagine that
@rachidyamada7701
@rachidyamada7701 10 ай бұрын
Is the time to stand up AFRICA. ❤
@andydondy6444
@andydondy6444 10 ай бұрын
Free Africa 👏👍👌Indonesia support 🇮🇩👍👌
@croesusdelta231
@croesusdelta231 10 ай бұрын
The backlash against the French in Africa is more than understandable. What is also needed is a backlash against France from the diaspora and others in Europe and the US. There should be protests outside every French embassy telling France to GTF out of Africa. There should also be protests in France itself. Good people who stand by and watch while others do bad things are essentially complicit.
@tbe2020
@tbe2020 10 ай бұрын
Fully support your views. Other African countries suffering the same faith should be supporting Niger instead of preparing to go to war against her just to continue to suck up to France. France will not give those sycophants a red cent of its money. It will just give them some of their own money gained from years of exploitation.
@bongoeshebantu6713
@bongoeshebantu6713 10 ай бұрын
Absolutely 💯
@kayfran9138
@kayfran9138 10 ай бұрын
No need for protest. The revolution is here
@Nerwesta
@Nerwesta 10 ай бұрын
I'm waiting for the same idea for all these wars done by the US and yet to come. You know it it's not feasible, especially when the public knowledge is scarce due to propaganda.
@icebless3136
@icebless3136 10 ай бұрын
So, I was thinking the same thing a few days ago. You said it better
@christophernsien7624
@christophernsien7624 10 ай бұрын
Thank you guys, you have all said well. We don't want any military intervention. I'm a Nigerian,I suggest Africa be allowed to take charge of their destiny.
@jamesmanno5668
@jamesmanno5668 10 ай бұрын
You won’t be “allowed to take charge “ of your destiny. You will have to fight for it or pass on the responsibility to your children
@LastStitch
@LastStitch 10 ай бұрын
And as I wish that was the case ...America and France Destroys other Country's ..They replace leaders just so they can stay in Control...Gaddafi and Saddam both told America they wanted Gold for oil in 1999 ..Saddam was framed for killing his own people and They had Obama hunt Gaddafi down like a Dog for Control of the Oil and stole all the Gold Gaddafi had
@2CHACHOUU
@2CHACHOUU 10 ай бұрын
Be allowed?wrong word ,destiny is always in your hands you choose which
@flobekoe
@flobekoe 10 ай бұрын
Every country has the right to decide his own destiny, French speaking countries in west Africa, have problem with France. Majority of English speaking countries have a right with france and the Us. We tend to be pro west. We don’t trust putin
@flobekoe
@flobekoe 10 ай бұрын
I am from Ghana. Many ghanains have no problem with France or Us.
@milkahwangui2353
@milkahwangui2353 10 ай бұрын
FRANCE TO LEAVE AFRICA ALONE
@mufasasdaughter4831
@mufasasdaughter4831 10 ай бұрын
Exactly. No more colonialists in Africa. Off with the looting colonialists.
@sabahsabrie1426
@sabahsabrie1426 10 ай бұрын
We the youth of africa, we are ready for anything, African child will never sleep with hunger ever again..🇸🇴
@fatmatakamara1866
@fatmatakamara1866 10 ай бұрын
In God's name!
@ninadaly7639
@ninadaly7639 9 ай бұрын
I hope you’re right, but the signs indicate massive starvation.
@Thomas20249
@Thomas20249 10 ай бұрын
You can not kick out the French wolves without first kicking out their local stooges
@kervinaham7375
@kervinaham7375 10 ай бұрын
If Europeans are so intelligent why are they afraid of Africa’s development?
@Saba-if5mu
@Saba-if5mu 10 ай бұрын
Mama Africa is so rich... they will be the third world. Once we United and have a single current , is it.
@handle-changed
@handle-changed 10 ай бұрын
just this sentence alone tells all of teh general education of .....single currency will not solve anything, only education and innovation will@@Saba-if5mu
@adrianm-he6he
@adrianm-he6he 10 ай бұрын
@ kervinaham7375. Exactly. Because their self-esteem depends on being superior to Black people.
@lovestrong3582
@lovestrong3582 10 ай бұрын
@@Saba-if5mu Its definitely coming real soon.
@bmmacoh3387
@bmmacoh3387 10 ай бұрын
The word " intelligent" should be in quotes !
@CelestineStjean-mz6rs
@CelestineStjean-mz6rs 10 ай бұрын
It's over time Africa should take a stance
@benjaminmitchell5345
@benjaminmitchell5345 10 ай бұрын
The risk is to colonial power not to other countries in the region. Africa will start to exploit their own resources for their own ends in time.
@joankarla-dinga5831
@joankarla-dinga5831 9 ай бұрын
Only way out!
@barbravire8994
@barbravire8994 9 ай бұрын
Yah, hands is in this?????
@ninadaly7639
@ninadaly7639 9 ай бұрын
Really? And how are they going to do that?
@user-mz3sw2qp6z
@user-mz3sw2qp6z 9 ай бұрын
And so what even if they do. IT'S THEIR"S
@farukissa642
@farukissa642 10 ай бұрын
No mention of blatant theft. Same story as when Britain "abolished " slavery. The slave owners were compensated rather than people who were actually enslaved. The freed former slaves were just left to walk around the streets of London without a home.
@TheMagicJIZZ
@TheMagicJIZZ 10 ай бұрын
Britain never had slavery only colonies
@farukissa642
@farukissa642 10 ай бұрын
@@TheMagicJIZZ lol are you joking??? Are black Jamaicans indigenous to Caribbean? 🤣🤣🤣
@farukissa642
@farukissa642 10 ай бұрын
@@NickTamaire because they were brought over as slaves. Then got gathered up and taken to Freetown in Sierra Leone. Freetown to be exact
@dpeasehead
@dpeasehead 10 ай бұрын
@farukissa642: Britain just finished paying off the descendants of the slave masters a few years ago. Neither the enslaved nor their descendants got a shilling. Nor did the UK do right in Rhodesia, South Africa, Kenya, Jamaica, etc. In the white west reparations, justice, and land reform are all bad things, but only when it comes black people.
@joankarla-dinga5831
@joankarla-dinga5831 10 ай бұрын
These Thieves will pay their prices someday
@GeneMickeyMann
@GeneMickeyMann 10 ай бұрын
The wickedness and the disadvantages of the CFA franc revolve around limited local monetary control, racism, dependency on France, economic imbalances, policy inflexibility, perceived colonial symbolism, and limited global recognition.
@youme1414
@youme1414 10 ай бұрын
Look I am not in disagreement with all this but coup is not the solution. It is like replacing one bad leadership with another. All we need is a revolution not coup. It is sad many of us aren't seeing that.
@rykson161
@rykson161 10 ай бұрын
Thank you Mr & Mrs Internet No more hiding anything !!!
@thecomment9489
@thecomment9489 10 ай бұрын
Indeed
@emmanuelmlowe-ew7gx
@emmanuelmlowe-ew7gx 10 ай бұрын
Today, let's ask the United States when and by whom it was chosen that it should send weapons to other countries that are at war, but the countries are not required. I have settled this question because he and his puppets are sent to armed countries in war or help one side and then if the other country does that, they bring arguments that they are not supposed to do the things that they are doing. I travel to France and the United States.
@MuantanamoMobile
@MuantanamoMobile 10 ай бұрын
They are trying to rebrand it as, the "ECO" but it's just a mutation which keeps all the core aspects after cosmetic changes.
@questionmore4675
@questionmore4675 10 ай бұрын
This is what AU should be doing helping Africa countries liberating Africa people from imperialism control and neocolonism but the organization was totally control by western countries.
@zolaeight7574
@zolaeight7574 10 ай бұрын
The AU works for those who fund them. We need Nkrumah’s African Union that was actually meant to represent us as Africans. This one along with the regional communities represent the colonizers and imperialists.
@shamlala9187
@shamlala9187 10 ай бұрын
That one is useless no point even mentioning them it must just be dissolved a waste of time.
@dunamispower1746
@dunamispower1746 10 ай бұрын
It is useful for colonisers and useless and harmful for Africans
@doinggarveytv5894
@doinggarveytv5894 10 ай бұрын
FACTS! ❤️🖤💚💯✊🏿
@camillainsonshine
@camillainsonshine 10 ай бұрын
AU building infrastructure was bugged from construction. This is a foreign institution with black people as placeholders. It is a ruse, I need African people and the Diaspora to stop mentioning AU as a solution. It was never meant by western entities to have any teeth. They have no power of their own. Let us forge ahead for real consolidation of power with real Africans who are for internal African development.
@wc899
@wc899 10 ай бұрын
Africa is worth protecting and dying for, it has given us so much and trusted us to protect and value it. Dont trade your freedom for dollars and pounds
@rda-gama2567
@rda-gama2567 10 ай бұрын
You cannot keep on oppress others , and no expecting them to be quite forever!
@camillainsonshine
@camillainsonshine 10 ай бұрын
Absolutely! This was inevitable!
@lisibigmama8016
@lisibigmama8016 10 ай бұрын
Well spoken Sir. Enoug is enough. C fini pour la France, nous avons marre.
@MYB11
@MYB11 10 ай бұрын
Stop speaking their language and speak your native tongue.
@MyCity-fp9nl
@MyCity-fp9nl 10 ай бұрын
@@MYB11oh yea after so many years of colonization we must just stop speaking their language so we won’t be able to communicate and unite 😂
@GeneMickeyMann
@GeneMickeyMann 10 ай бұрын
The fact that member countries of the CFA do not have control over their monetary policy restricts their ability to implement policies that suit their specific economic needs. This can lead to limited flexibility in addressing issues such as inflation, unemployment, and economic growth.
@joankarla-dinga5831
@joankarla-dinga5831 10 ай бұрын
Exactly. Cameroonians are suffering an lnflation that started almost over 25yrs ago
@xena6894
@xena6894 10 ай бұрын
But I wonder what prevents them from getting out of CFA. Instead of complaining, but staying in it
@joankarla-dinga5831
@joankarla-dinga5831 9 ай бұрын
The reason is our vorfathers sign contracts which is very difficulties for us to just move out. This is why some of these countries are using Army overthrow bcz France protects only such presidents who are ready to keep those Rules and that's why most Cops never succed since many yrs bzc France's will always want to fight back Support his lnterest.
@jacquejones96793
@jacquejones96793 10 ай бұрын
Reparations for former slave owners has got to be the biggest injustice of all time. What kind of humans do this? This exposes the horrible incompetence of French government that is motivated by colonialist practices. If they had the decency to elevate the lives of the people this probably would not happen.
@johnmcdonald9295
@johnmcdonald9295 9 ай бұрын
Did you know the Europeans bought their slaves ,from black slave owners,while the Muslims caught their own African slaves,the Muslim slave trade in Africa was for 1400 years
@malandrosranks1193
@malandrosranks1193 10 ай бұрын
Why isn't colonialist exploitation outlawed in the U.N? Their silence is complicity in itself.
@sheilatyeku5958
@sheilatyeku5958 10 ай бұрын
The UN so impotent weak and act as 'a US agent & wider west' - useless body effectively has increasingly become
@emilio2647
@emilio2647 10 ай бұрын
@malandrosranks1193 the UN is controlled by the white colonial powers.
@oliviasukamto947
@oliviasukamto947 10 ай бұрын
Un is nothing but a west Lap dog !
@mathewdasilva4421
@mathewdasilva4421 10 ай бұрын
Money
@bmmacoh3387
@bmmacoh3387 10 ай бұрын
​@@mathewdasilva4421the UN is obsolete.
@zaininordin
@zaininordin 10 ай бұрын
French colonizer out, US base out, Rusia security guarantee in, China investor in, African countries partners in.
@EHed-kv2wb
@EHed-kv2wb 10 ай бұрын
Why russia? Why not africa for africans? Dont choose sides. Its not beneficial for africa.
@ibrahimultimate404
@ibrahimultimate404 10 ай бұрын
Yes russia and china welcome within a right set of scopes and regulations.
@evanthatrashman8260
@evanthatrashman8260 10 ай бұрын
@@EHed-kv2wb for weapons
@SNEZNA9
@SNEZNA9 9 ай бұрын
❤️ with full support from Russia. Hope all people there will be safe and Europe go out to let live and grow
@SNEZNA9
@SNEZNA9 9 ай бұрын
Russia is not a side, it’s just a partnership.
@afx88lexx
@afx88lexx 10 ай бұрын
France must return all difference between market price for recourses and price that they paid in fact.
@evanthatrashman8260
@evanthatrashman8260 10 ай бұрын
They can't do that France would be destabilized all the former colonial masters current riches are due to exploiting Africa Get your colonizing asses out of our countries! 🇹🇹🇳🇪
@jimchilson8433
@jimchilson8433 10 ай бұрын
Great show. Ty. I hope for Independent Africa AND no bloodshed.
@ItopaAl
@ItopaAl 10 ай бұрын
If the French still cannot see the writing on the wall then we must consider avarice as one of the possible causes of myopia.
@ninadaly7639
@ninadaly7639 9 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, if YOU cannot read the writing on the wall, then your people will starve.
@ItopaAl
@ItopaAl 9 ай бұрын
@@ninadaly7639 starvation, contrary to your "feel-good" revisionist history, was a thing unknown until you set your accursed feet on our shores. If the French mission in Africa was to save us from ourselves, why are you the ones bending over backwards to remain? Au contraire, recognize and respect the hands that feed YOU!
@ninadaly7639
@ninadaly7639 9 ай бұрын
@@ItopaAl I agree. But if it hadn’t been the west, it would have been someone else. There is no “feel-good” revisionist history. Saving you from yourselves may have been the justification at the time, but the world has changed drastically since then in its knowledge and understanding. Today, it’s about making money, which is no different than your objective. I agree that African nations have the short end of the stick and arrangements to renegotiate agreements should be happening to increase African countries stake, but as we see even in the U.S., it takes money to make money. African countries appear not to have the infrastructure to achieve and maintain independence and still feed their people. It is incredibly naive to think that whoever infuses capital into these countries isn’t going to do it without also taking control. Lofty platitudes are wonderful soundbites but unless there is financing, nothing can happen.
@ItopaAl
@ItopaAl 9 ай бұрын
@@ninadaly7639 I really do think you miss the nature of western capitalist imperialism and the reality of what they term loan or infusion of capital into a system it already robs from in tangible material terms and presumes its printed paper fiat currency is apt compensation; which it would never have been (not by a long shot) if it weren't for a plethora of armtwisting institutions it'd set up as coercive, punitive, and subversive instruments. That said, it is also erroneous to suppose the brigand's code of "if not me then someone else would have cooked your goose" applies to everyone. Some cultures trade, you know, and there is a natural code of justice and ethics which, albeit enshrined in the constitutions of even western cultures, they conveniently overlook when dealing with other people. My take is that the western people have been held hostage by their oligarchs which they willingly fed to become the devourers they are today by being weaned on illusions of their collective superiorty over others. For them, it is a clash of cultures - a them versus us mentality - while on the other hand, we don't have that luxury, but seek not to be extinguished as a people, either literally or figuratively.
@kellywills5852
@kellywills5852 10 ай бұрын
As a white Canadian who lives in the "Birthplace of Whole Body Universal Healthcare in North America", I can relate to the citizens of Africa. We fought the English Crown and Crown owned or backed corporations to achieve the social and health safety nets to protect us from Crown and corporate abuse. Unfortunatly, once our Socialist government was defeated, Crown and corporations are once again abusing us too. I urge all African nations to fully nationalize all resourses. Kick all foreign resource robbers out. Lift your people out of the colonial impossed poverty.
@Cavebabyberserker
@Cavebabyberserker 10 ай бұрын
Yall French tho
@Slim1361
@Slim1361 10 ай бұрын
​@@Cavebabyberserker🤦🏿‍♂ ..we speak French. That doesn't make us France. We also speak English like you. Does that make you England?
@joankarla-dinga5831
@joankarla-dinga5831 10 ай бұрын
Thank you👐
@Cavebabyberserker
@Cavebabyberserker 10 ай бұрын
@@Slim1361 Are yall black cause if not wtf you talking about ???? Canadians are French white folks
@kellywills5852
@kellywills5852 10 ай бұрын
@@Cavebabyberserker Actually, I'm of Irish, English and German descent. I don't speak French at all.
@angelinehlakudi8001
@angelinehlakudi8001 10 ай бұрын
In South Africa EFF told France to leave and we are all so supporting EFF. Our country can survive without the west
@xena6894
@xena6894 10 ай бұрын
😂 That's not true. I still see all french firms are in SA. And no, SA can't survive without big brands investors in SA. Car manufacturers , if they close their industrial parks , SA would see unprecedented unrests .Remember taxes from these firms pat for your Sasaa
@angelinehlakudi8001
@angelinehlakudi8001 10 ай бұрын
@@xena6894 is people like you who delay our progress. Yes the french company are still operating but we want them out. Point of correction sassa cannot make survive neh, and I am not even depending on it. You are one of them that can be bribed by white monopoly to kill our blacks. Read history and understand the damage these people did to our forefathers. If only our leaders can stop thinking for themselves and think for all Africans. Africa is the most richest continent. Western countries are milking us dry. You speak about tax, our youth are jobless yet you say this.
@KAMALAMPICREW
@KAMALAMPICREW 10 ай бұрын
Full support for awakening African nations from Russia. For us Russians it was always sad to see the oppression of Africa by so called “civilised” countries. It became even worse when we noticed that their ego push them on us. But it looks like it’s all working out bad for them. Please Africa never give up! You deserve to be FREE.
@LalaLa-ze7kv
@LalaLa-ze7kv 8 ай бұрын
Yall have colonies inside ur own borders too tho😂
@johnbanda5632
@johnbanda5632 8 ай бұрын
There are slave masters within us so we need to educate them that they can see the evil that they're fertilizing by their greedy attitudes they have towards those who mean well for our future generation to come after we are all gone
@ArronPigford-xv5fq
@ArronPigford-xv5fq 8 ай бұрын
,👍😁
@neo4reo
@neo4reo 5 ай бұрын
@@LalaLa-ze7kv I guess that means all the indiviudal states that make up the US are its colonies.
@sanjarniyatov6922
@sanjarniyatov6922 2 ай бұрын
You are also a colonizer..😂😂 actually You are still colonizing 22 countries, let alone formen former USSR countryiers
@carmelovirgiliolim2984
@carmelovirgiliolim2984 10 ай бұрын
"Do you hear the people sing? Singing a song of angry men? It is the music of a people who will not be slaves again. When the beating of your heart echoes the beating of the drums there is a life about to start when tomorrow comes. Will you join in our crusade? . . ." Les Miserables
@jacintochua6885
@jacintochua6885 10 ай бұрын
If France had treated these African nations faitly, these back lashes wouldn't have happened. These unfair treatments have been going for over sixty years . French politicians were blinded by greed.
@richardmoonstone52
@richardmoonstone52 10 ай бұрын
Great stuff as always. Thanks for the updates. Peace and love
@joankarla-dinga5831
@joankarla-dinga5831 10 ай бұрын
Thanks! Excellent Journalist knowledge und Speakers are just perfekt
@freedom4087
@freedom4087 10 ай бұрын
Looting from the poor! You can’t go lower🤮
@Akosua225
@Akosua225 10 ай бұрын
“They” never played fair since touching our African soil! Enough is enough!
@oliviasukamto947
@oliviasukamto947 10 ай бұрын
That’s awestrrn values since forever !
@jabaltariq4606
@jabaltariq4606 10 ай бұрын
You are an independent nation but French troops are always in your country? You are indep3ndent but you cannot defend yourself from attacks?
@shattaclevewright4379
@shattaclevewright4379 10 ай бұрын
One word RELIGION. Thats all you need to know. Africa is better off without it
@GeneMickeyMann
@GeneMickeyMann 10 ай бұрын
The fixed exchange rate system of the CFA franc can lead to economic imbalances between member countries. If one country experiences an economic shock or downturn, it may not be able to adjust its exchange rate to regain competitiveness. This lack of flexibility does hinder economic growth and stability within the region.
@WTFVIDSok
@WTFVIDSok 10 ай бұрын
Is it your belief that Africans cannot create their own unified currency? And that the former master, France, is the only country with enough capability to create a stable currency? Whether it fails or succeeds, the DECISION rests with the African countries. Not with their former master.
@speakup18
@speakup18 10 ай бұрын
​@@WTFVIDSokhe is part of the problem
@ra5241
@ra5241 10 ай бұрын
​@@WTFVIDSokf... France buddy
@emilio2647
@emilio2647 10 ай бұрын
​@@ra5241what about Belgium? 😁
@afrikanjamaicangrl2077
@afrikanjamaicangrl2077 10 ай бұрын
PRESIDENT MACARONI...MOVE YUH BLOODCLAAT OUTTA AFRICA🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲
@emilio2647
@emilio2647 10 ай бұрын
@afrikanjamaicangrl2077 maybe France should put a military base in Jamaica.
@robbiewizz658
@robbiewizz658 10 ай бұрын
😂😂😂tell dem sista
@user-eu2cr6hr1m
@user-eu2cr6hr1m 10 ай бұрын
Why asked these foolish questions we all know that it minerals France is holding on
@rykson161
@rykson161 10 ай бұрын
Your oppressors will never give you freedom ! You must fight for your liberty ! Едина украина
@Akosua225
@Akosua225 10 ай бұрын
We are ready to do so ! 👊🏿
@dominicnfon7296
@dominicnfon7296 10 ай бұрын
How can Paul be saying there is no justification for coup d’état. You cannot have a president that does not work for his people but a puppet to another country and you just sit watch and clap. It is not only African leaders failing but also African citizens have failed to hold these leaders accountable. It can happen with anyone when there is no accountability anyone can do just whatever they want. Kudos to Mali , Burkina Faso and Guinea for taking the courage.
@Appydem
@Appydem 10 ай бұрын
Why is that all these channels are not mentioning the elephant in the room! *$13 Bn - Trans-Saharan gas pipeline* The gas pipelines from Nigeria, through Niger and Algeria are scheduled to be operational by the end of 2023 third quarter. This is a very much needed fuel supply for Europe noting the current issues with Russia.
@bircruz555
@bircruz555 10 ай бұрын
If they invade Niger, 3000 miles of pipeline will share the destiny of the Nord Strom pipeline. The people will blow it up everywhere. Europe should be careful, lest it freezes to death. And Europe should pay market prices. No more Africa subsidizing greedy and immoral Europe. Its day are numbered.
@sebastianondogaokot9134
@sebastianondogaokot9134 9 ай бұрын
@@NickTamaireNiger is spoiling that nuclear energy formula hence the venom from France.
@RichardJuukovsky
@RichardJuukovsky 10 ай бұрын
Great stuff. Thanks for the updates. Peace and love
@kymjohnthorburn6044
@kymjohnthorburn6044 10 ай бұрын
Compare the Coup to the change of Prime Ministers of UK, Johnson - Truss- Sunak - without electoral (THE PEOPLE) participation - so what is the difference, ownership?
@bck481
@bck481 10 ай бұрын
No gun's we're used, Boris Johnson was not arrested and held against his will, the British economy did not collapse like nigers economy now is, I could go on but I will spare you the humiliation
@acuantjahyadi7393
@acuantjahyadi7393 10 ай бұрын
Ini bagus untuk di beritahukan ke dunia 👍👍
@walterchin8832
@walterchin8832 10 ай бұрын
The rise of peaceful China gives impetus for African nations to rise economically like China. David is correct that China treats all nations with respect and equality in doing business without interfering with other nations internal affairs.
@handle-changed
@handle-changed 10 ай бұрын
but they exploit all others , they are just more clever hypocrites and undercover pushing out all competition and try to conquer most african resources.
@emilio2647
@emilio2647 10 ай бұрын
@walterchin8832 I smell a revolution on the horizon across the African continent.
@mathewdasilva4421
@mathewdasilva4421 10 ай бұрын
China has have a million Arab slaves .. china is horrible … Russia is horrible … you are confused
@ibrahimultimate404
@ibrahimultimate404 10 ай бұрын
@@emilio2647i hope it becomes a reality as soon as possible 😁
@sherrymcclure1675
@sherrymcclure1675 10 ай бұрын
"Peaceful China"?!? "China Respectful"?!? When? Where?
@nzey2
@nzey2 10 ай бұрын
C'est vraiment ça l'avantage d'un monde multipolaire, avoir des points de vu sur la politique et la géopolitique, autre que celui de BBC, des Media Français et Américains. Très bel échange.
@blardymunggas6884
@blardymunggas6884 10 ай бұрын
If France wats to buy anything that is fine, just pay for it. Pay for it in African dollar
@baibureh3268
@baibureh3268 10 ай бұрын
African unit or credit, not dollar. We need a different name
@lillianmadison2821
@lillianmadison2821 10 ай бұрын
We Are Proud OF AFRICA USA.
@Leon-the-great
@Leon-the-great 10 ай бұрын
Love it 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉 one country one currency . One people America has 52 states one country why should Africa be any different. Work together and start to dominate
@elhadjiwade8765
@elhadjiwade8765 10 ай бұрын
Africa can take care of it self yes yes
@Brewed-mi1ue
@Brewed-mi1ue 10 ай бұрын
Liberty or Death. Our children will bless us for our courage 🙏🏿 And may the Most High fortify our hearts and knit our hearts together under his authority and power 🙏🏿💪🏿
@thereal1162
@thereal1162 10 ай бұрын
Fr this is a cause I’m willing to lay my life for I’d leave happy knowing our children will live in a world free from these parasites ✊🏾
@Brewed-mi1ue
@Brewed-mi1ue 10 ай бұрын
@@thereal1162 YES, YES, AND YES!! PARASITES AND VULTURES INDEED. STAY STRONG FOR THE CALLING TO COME 💪🏿
@ninadaly7639
@ninadaly7639 9 ай бұрын
What children? Those countries are heading for starvation.
@Brewed-mi1ue
@Brewed-mi1ue 9 ай бұрын
@@ninadaly7639 may the MOST HIGH have mercy on you. You know not what you're saying. But if pen 🖋️ is writing curses for our people, may they come back to you. 💪🏿
@ninadaly7639
@ninadaly7639 9 ай бұрын
@@Brewed-mi1ue Wonderful. But for your sake, I hope you aren’t making a colossal mistake.
@thereal1162
@thereal1162 10 ай бұрын
Good u can see the spirits of black people rising all over the globe we are living in amazing time we’re done being nice much love from America ✊🏾
@ninadaly7639
@ninadaly7639 9 ай бұрын
These are the end of times, I’m afraid.
@SpiritVines
@SpiritVines 10 ай бұрын
American here! We Melanated Americans are here for you!!! Keep it up. Lets end neocolonialism for good in this lifetime!❤
@potatoeheadjoe66
@potatoeheadjoe66 9 ай бұрын
You did it? Human will did it. Not many ever cared about your color internet activist, get over it.
@rhymahd6352
@rhymahd6352 10 ай бұрын
One Africa colonizer must go🇯🇲✅💯
@hatbarn3532
@hatbarn3532 10 ай бұрын
African leaders need to UNITE to save Africa. Don't allow yourselves to be used and bribed.
@ibrahimultimate404
@ibrahimultimate404 10 ай бұрын
The african leaders are all old heads that’s the main shit holding Africa back, we need fresh minds we need This generation leaders to develop Africa
@leathamanning5162
@leathamanning5162 10 ай бұрын
Why does the gentleman say that there is no justification for coups? If a bully, constantly punched him in his face, would he at any point, punch back? To France: Just pay for what you take and steal and you may, if you humble yourself enough, get a discount!
@robertyoung8785
@robertyoung8785 10 ай бұрын
Go Africa, you need to run your own business.
@TheTeddykimani
@TheTeddykimani 10 ай бұрын
Africa has never gained independence from foreigners but REGAINED independence Africa always had
@Cnoted33
@Cnoted33 10 ай бұрын
Africa Unite! Bob Marley is smiling somewhere right now!
@tyronebrown5766
@tyronebrown5766 9 ай бұрын
We support you ! If you need More people to fight with you! We are ready! Africa unite.
@miguelrivera8532
@miguelrivera8532 10 ай бұрын
BUT STILL AMERICA HAVE MILATERY BASES ALL OVER IN AFRICA
@ancored
@ancored 10 ай бұрын
Bcz of the puppet African presidents
@barryshaw5660
@barryshaw5660 10 ай бұрын
Those military’s who have taken charge aren’t causing violence in their country, the military’s in those countries need to assure free and fair elections.
@malcolmxmalcolmx1086
@malcolmxmalcolmx1086 10 ай бұрын
Thats not true
@bmmacoh3387
@bmmacoh3387 10 ай бұрын
" free and fair elections" is not the garantee for economic progress. You can keep that for yourself like the "democrazy" you preach.
@patrickoconnor6979
@patrickoconnor6979 10 ай бұрын
Unite Africa, and have a prosperous future. From the former British, now European colony of Ireland 🇮🇪.
@bircruz555
@bircruz555 10 ай бұрын
We love Clare Daly, as we do Georgia Meloni of Italy!
@ZaraOReilly
@ZaraOReilly 10 ай бұрын
Yes exactly the irishs not dead
@kingalton10
@kingalton10 8 ай бұрын
You guys need to kick out the illegals!
@hareshlachminarain9451
@hareshlachminarain9451 10 ай бұрын
Africa, we’re with you.
@lolitaboykins4834
@lolitaboykins4834 10 ай бұрын
HATTI 😢, how time JUST slips away, and repeats itself. 🧐🤔😔
@polysilva4476
@polysilva4476 10 ай бұрын
Africa United
@ambessaseway5594
@ambessaseway5594 10 ай бұрын
France needs to ask themselves why 90% of former British colonies are functional democratic countries (not perfect) even countries who hade civil war are now democracy but no former French-speaking countries
@ambessaseway5594
@ambessaseway5594 10 ай бұрын
@@NickTamaire no Value?? Niger supplies 25% of uranium to the EU its also building a 200tausend barrel oil pipeline/ Mali produces 70 tones of Gold every year. France produces 0 % Uranium/O Barrel oil/O% Gold
@ambessaseway5594
@ambessaseway5594 10 ай бұрын
@@NickTamaire Morocco is a Kingdom/Tunisia is a Seid Dictatorship/ Algeria fight a brutal War of independence
@tonygee5680
@tonygee5680 10 ай бұрын
@@NickTamaireNiger is the world’s 3rd producer of uranium. They supply 60 % of france power n u say it’s just a desert????😢😢😢😢
@niokandege
@niokandege 10 ай бұрын
Certain people got so comfortable on a global scale, riding the waves, having the best time possible regardless of the cost. Now the cost is calling it in and it's priceless.
@RaineRay-gn3bn
@RaineRay-gn3bn 10 ай бұрын
The African diaspora stands with you.Don’t take your foot off their necks
@himanshut114
@himanshut114 10 ай бұрын
0:46 🎉🎉china🇨🇳 is having a great time in Africa🌍..... Hopefully Africa will benefit from all the chaos
@emmanuelmlowe-ew7gx
@emmanuelmlowe-ew7gx 10 ай бұрын
Today, let's ask the United States when and by whom it was chosen that it should send weapons to other countries that are at war, but the countries are not required. I have settled this question because he and his puppets are sent to armed countries in war or help one side and then if the other country does that, they bring arguments that they are not supposed to do the things that they are doing. I travel to France and the United States.
@emmanuelmlowe-ew7gx
@emmanuelmlowe-ew7gx 9 ай бұрын
@@shanebrown5474 now is your time to leave Africa
@emmanuelmlowe-ew7gx
@emmanuelmlowe-ew7gx 9 ай бұрын
Africa can't develop because of America and french .no america no war or diseases in the world
@barryah4132
@barryah4132 10 ай бұрын
THE REASON WHY THEY CAN'T LEAVE AFRICA ALONE IS BECAUSE THEY KNOW THERE IS SOMETHING PRECIOUS TO BE DISCOVERED IN THAT LAND
@kevinwilson5711
@kevinwilson5711 10 ай бұрын
Please..WIN YOU'LL CONTINENT BACK...PLEASE. come together as one, and over come your difference.
@TegaBrume
@TegaBrume 10 ай бұрын
This caucus man is talking a whole lots of nothing 🤦🏽‍♂️. Evidence that they should stay out of African business
@salieujallow9112
@salieujallow9112 10 ай бұрын
France soldiers must to leave the sahel region
@yutub6928
@yutub6928 9 ай бұрын
Excellent video which clarifies to me several points. Congratulations to the presenter, with questions taking us to the matter of the problem. Regards from Mexico.
@youme1414
@youme1414 10 ай бұрын
This Cameroonian, David Otto-Endeley, has never made any definitive statement in his analyses that I can agree with. He keeps waffling all the time.
@emilio2647
@emilio2647 10 ай бұрын
@youme1414 they should've had Dr Umar Johnson on this interview.
@samuelintwari
@samuelintwari 10 ай бұрын
Next should be Cameroon 🇨🇲
@Lifeisspiritual
@Lifeisspiritual 10 ай бұрын
France must go. Africas freedom is non negotiable. This is the new Africa.👊🏾
@rainsnow5707
@rainsnow5707 10 ай бұрын
It's a backlash against European colonialists
@gregmontalvo2737
@gregmontalvo2737 10 ай бұрын
I think everyone wants each country to take charge of their own destiny, but what does this mean? I could be wrong here, but the main complaint of the coup leaders seems to be corruption and not benefitting enough from the natural resources. Both or these cause the country remain poor, but each one could have been dealt with through the democratic legislature. As for the natural resources, there are really two options: 1) put a higher tax on the companies that mine the resources and use the revenue to to improve the livelihoods of the citizens, or 2) take government control over some or all o the mining options and use the sales to create social programs to benefit the citizens (the government could also pay the citizens a small annual stipend bases off of sales). As for the corruption claims, there should be an arm of the government that investigates these claims and brings the perpetrators to justice in the court system. Without these measure, the country will always be poor and in a start of chaos. Just keep in mind that using terms like economic imbalance doesn't solve the problem. You have to have a clearly defined problem before you can solve the issues.
@hubreydavid7864
@hubreydavid7864 10 ай бұрын
If you are chickens you can't have a fox in your midst and lay eggs Peacefully. France needs to leave the African continent so should every other Colinizers. United Africa is a mighty continent next are African military bases encircling the whole continent as one military. 😳
@sleuth7
@sleuth7 10 ай бұрын
Not possible. All the institutions serve France interests and not Nigerien interests. Since independence.
@ninadaly7639
@ninadaly7639 9 ай бұрын
Not to mention a cl ally defined plan going forward.
@georgewashington90
@georgewashington90 10 ай бұрын
NATO colonialism kaput.
@bck481
@bck481 10 ай бұрын
Which countries have NATO Colinised? Remember you said NATO
@supahotjoe6493
@supahotjoe6493 10 ай бұрын
@@bck481Libya iraq
@bck481
@bck481 10 ай бұрын
@@supahotjoe6493 Colinised, I Don't think so . I worked in Libya there are no European people there. Do you know the meaning of the word, haha who the fck would live in Afghanistan , my home town is full of Afgans ,And you my friend are full of shit
@kaimanyu586
@kaimanyu586 10 ай бұрын
@alexander, add Afghanistan. NATO owned it for 20 years.. Even if they don't invade under NATO flag, it's always the same crew who loves invading other nations. It's funny, that you even ask that question, Iraq is still occupied by NATO, you've been stealing their oil for 20 years, Iraq told you many times to get lost.. But like always, they West don't care about anyone, they only care about their own interests... Many Westerners are like you, totally clueless about the world.. They all screaming how much they hate Russia for invading Ukraine, meanwhile West is still occupying Iraq, but nobody says a word about it. 😂🤣 When will you guys start screaming to bring your leaders to the ICC for their crimes? Never, because Westerners are a bunch of ignorant hypocrites...
@EHed-kv2wb
@EHed-kv2wb 10 ай бұрын
​@@supahotjoe6493bombed yes. Colonized no.
@juditesantos365
@juditesantos365 10 ай бұрын
France, what a shame!!!!!
@artisticagi
@artisticagi 10 ай бұрын
I think it’s fine to want the former colonizer out of African countries, but then are the new African leaders that come into power actually going to invest and distribute that wealth to enrich the people? That’s my main concern now. So far only Rwanda has been doing a good job at that
@joem551
@joem551 10 ай бұрын
Whether they do or not should be their decision and no one else's. What you said sounded like somebody is being help hostage and enslaved and when they want their freedom, the slave master refused to free them because of of fear they might not use their freedom wisely lol. Let them decide their destiny as free people and whatever they do with their freedom is none of anyone's business.
@shamlala9187
@shamlala9187 10 ай бұрын
Everyone is asking whether are we going to use our power properly or not. It is ours how we using is nobody's' business. It will be OURS and no one has a say in it .If we make mistakes let it be we shall learn and do better.
@afrikanpower2377
@afrikanpower2377 10 ай бұрын
They will, with support of the people
@oliviasukamto947
@oliviasukamto947 10 ай бұрын
Wether they do or not it’s their business . Stop worrying other people business . Bottom line is no more west colonialism. Fact !!!
@mathewdasilva4421
@mathewdasilva4421 10 ай бұрын
No the Chinese and Russians will own everything
@nineteen8486
@nineteen8486 10 ай бұрын
Bravo Africa .. take back your resources .. say no to the WEF
@bahibrahim1906
@bahibrahim1906 10 ай бұрын
French citizens are still not single out. The earlier the French government gets out of our continent the better it will be. You can't fool some people sometimes but you can't fool all the people all the time.
@tonygee5680
@tonygee5680 10 ай бұрын
You can fool some people sometimes but you can’t fool some people all the time
@willieduffie4967
@willieduffie4967 9 ай бұрын
Great discussion!
@user-do5zf1vm4n
@user-do5zf1vm4n 10 ай бұрын
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